"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 1/4/2013 1:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > "Chemo" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > Try the McDonalds $1.00 menu.
>> >
>> > How can anyone eat that stuff? Granted I haven't eaten it for many
>> > years
>> > but when my daughter was craving French fries the other day and we were
>> > by
>> > one, I went through the drive though and got some. Even after she
>> > begged me
>> > not to.
>>
>> Uh... if she was craving french fries why would she beg you not to buy
>> the McD's fries?
>
> I'm not familiar with many fast food places but in my opinion....between
> McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's. Wendy's make the best fries of the
> three.

Ha! You've never been to the one by Winco. Pale, anemic, soggy, greasy.

Chemo wrote:
>
> On Jan 4, 1:49 pm, Gary > wrote:
> > Chemo wrote:
> >
> > > projectile vomit chick wrote:
> > > > Do you remember when her daughter was going to be a ballerina? I bet
> > > > she even doesn't. Julie Bove is a most **** poor troll.
> >
> > > and you're a real slut.
> >
> > I like sluts sometimes
>
> not one that vomits....

good point ;o

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right next to
> >> the
> >> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints about that
> >> from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to me.
> >
> > 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks coffee,
> > imo.
>
> Any coffee is better than that IMO. But most people seem to like it here.

Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think I have ever had steak fries with skins on.
> >
> > They are good, Julie@
>
> I don't like steak fries much. I'll eat a couple but... They're not crisp
> enough for me.

Ummmm.... they can be as crisp as any other fries. The ones you've tried
probably weren't cooked long enough on high heat.

Gary

Chemo wrote:
>
> > I'm not familiar with many fast food places but in my opinion....between
> > McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's. Wendy's make the best fries of the
> > three.
> >
> > Gary

>
> I think everything at Burger King tastes like propane.

Years ago, their whoppers were good but made me feel ill. There was some odd
taste there. I thought it was the simulated grilled taste using liquid smoke
but I could be wrong.

G.

On Jan 4, 3:10*pm, Gary > wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>
> > > I'm not familiar with many fast food places but in my opinion....between
> > > McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's. *Wendy's make the best fries of the
> > > three.
>
> > > Gary
>
> > I think everything at Burger King tastes like propane.
>
> Years ago, their whoppers were good but made me feel ill. There was some odd
> taste there. I thought it was the simulated grilled taste using liquid smoke
> but I could be wrong.
>
> G.

I think it's because they grill over gas. For some reason the burgers
all had that gas sorta taste...not like when grilling at home on the
gas bbq. There's a bbq bar in town that makes the best burgers I've
ever had along with great sweet potato fries...all for about $4, not
counting the beer of course.

On Friday, January 4, 2013 1:53:08 AM UTC-6, ViLco wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>
> > How can anyone eat that stuff? Granted I haven't eaten it for many
>
> > years but when my daughter was craving French fries the other day and
>
> > we were by one, I went through the drive though and got some. Even
>
> > after she begged me not to. And what we got where totally inedible. Not
>
> > overly greasy but not crisp either and really pretty flavorless.
>
>
>
> Right, crispyness is exactly what McD's fries are always lacking.
>
Burger King has much crispier fries. They dust them with rice powder.

Around here, pubs known for their good burgers mostly use very thick cut fries, and at least some cook them in peanut oil.

--Bryan

On 1/4/2013 5:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I have ever had steak fries with skins on.
>>>
>>> They are good, Julie@
>>
>> I don't like steak fries much. I'll eat a couple but... They're not crisp
>> enough for me.
>
> Ummmm.... they can be as crisp as any other fries. The ones you've tried
> probably weren't cooked long enough on high heat.
>
> Gary
>
Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
consistency of a baked potato inside. Except they're fries.

Jill

On Jan 4, 4:32*am, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:07*pm, Tommy Joe > wrote:
>
>
>
> > * * That's what I'm on right now. *The stove in this furnished
> > apartment is like 50 years old, maybe more. *The burners are
> > inconsistent. *So about two weeks ago I got into bringing restaurant
> > food home. *I'm proud of what I manage with it.
>
> > * * *I go to one particular Chinese takeout spot and get two meals at
> > a time. *From those two I can easily make 4. *But I have taken it a
> > step further. *I ask for a dollar's worth of extra meat in each box,
> > usually pork no matter what kind of meat is already there, then add my
> > own veggies later - fragile stuff that cooks down easily.
>
> > * * * Here are 2 examples. *Yesterday I bought some stuff called
> > Singapore sumptinorother with pork and rice noodles and some veggies
> > mixed in. *I also bought a container of beef with bell pepper and
> > onion with some carrots in there.
>
> > * * * *When I get home I slice some fresh napa cabbage into two
> > containers, same amount into each. *I also slice the green and white
> > parts of a bunch of scallions into the mix along with a few cloves of
> > smashed garlic. *Some cilantro. *A few hits of black pepper and
> > cayenne pepper. *And then the juice of half a lime into each mix.
> > Then I pour the take-out food one apiece into each container and
> > gently mix it up. *I get 3 meals from *each - that's 6 total lasting 3
> > days at 2 meals a day. *Not only do the added veggies and spices not
> > screw up the meal, it actually improves it. *The lime not only adds a
> > pleasant zing, it also serves to moisten the food enough to make
> > mixing in the fresh veggies easier. *I microwave a plate at mealtime.
> > The fragile veggies melt down easy and the other stuff does not
> > overcook.
>
> > The lazy good for nothing chef of winston salem north carolina (nice
> > break, no cooking)
> > TJ
>
> LOL! *We live in proximity of a small private college and the take-out
> is fantastic (cuz of all the pot-smoke ya'll). *We just don't do take-
> out often, but yeah we got a great Chinese joint up the road. *The
> problem with Chinese food is yer hungry all the damn time. *The best
> Chinese joint ever was the one put up on the boulevard by a bunch of
> Mexicans. *They had a little Chinese guy in the back. *It was, quite
> simply, the BOMB.


The "hungry an hour later" thing comes I believe from not enough
protein. I ask for extra meat, a dollar per serving. I don't want a
lot anyway, but I think buying the meat and adding veggies is better
than the other way around as I use fragile veggies that need little
cooking and blend into the sauces and soak up what's in there as if
they had been cooked right in there. Hey, when you say Boulevard, you
don't mean Hollywood Blvd, do you? I mean, with a name like
Projectile Vomit Chick, you sound like you could have some Hollywood
blood in you.

Mr Hollywood,
TJ

On Jan 4, 4:45*am, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

> > What would you call the hilarious condition that makes a 42 year old
> > call herself 'projectile vomit chick'?



> LOL!!!!



You're laughing a lot in the thread. I hope you're not manic
depressive, because what comes next is not so nice. When I see
someone in too good a mood I begin instantly to feel sorry for them
because I know they're heading for a letdown. The medical term is LTS
- laughing to sadness. Horrible condition.

TJ

jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/4/2013 5:58 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I have ever had steak fries with skins on.
>>>>
>>>> They are good, Julie@
>>>
>>> I don't like steak fries much. I'll eat a couple but... They're
>>> not crisp enough for me.
>>
>> Ummmm.... they can be as crisp as any other fries. The ones you've
>> tried probably weren't cooked long enough on high heat.
>>
>> Gary
>>
> Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
> consistency of a baked potato inside. Except they're fries.

Hmmm... I have never ever had crisp ones but then I won't order them if
there is a choice of something else because I have gotten too many soft
ones. Really, restaurant fries are losing their appeal to me. I don't know
what they are doing wrong. Perhaps the oil is not hot enough? I can't
remember the last time I got any really crispy ones. I can do the oven ones
at home but then when I'm at home there are a ton of other foods I'd rather
eat than fries. Oh but... The Mexi Fries at Taco Time? OMG! Sooo good!
We hadn't eaten any in a very long time and apparently they changed the
recipe and people didn't like them. So they brought back the old recipe and
were offering free ones on a Friday. So we got one free order even though
they said we could get two. We just wanted to taste them to see if they
were as good as we remembered. And they were not. They were better!

Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right
>>>> next to the
>>>> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints
>>>> about that from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks
>>> coffee, imo.
>>
>> Any coffee is better than that IMO. But most people seem to like it
>> here.
>
> Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.

Yeah. I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even managed to
sell bottled water that tasted bad! I used to drink a lot of coffee but
just plain old black coffee. And here that is getting harder and harder to
find. I hate even getting it for my daughter at one of the many drive
through coffee huts that are all over the place here. They ask soo many
questions because I guess a lot of people are super picky about their
coffee. I'm just like... Whatever. However you would normally make it.
Just be sure it's sugar free. She's not all that picky. The only coffee
she ever had that she didn't like came from McDonalds but... We did get it
at 10:00 at night and they charged me some very weird amount for it. I
can't remember the amount but it was far less than a dollar. So I suspect
that it had sat there in the pot all day.

Gary wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not familiar with many fast food places but in my
>>> opinion....between McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's. Wendy's
>>> make the best fries of the three.
>>>
>>> Gary
>
>>
>> I think everything at Burger King tastes like propane.
>
> Years ago, their whoppers were good but made me feel ill. There was
> some odd taste there. I thought it was the simulated grilled taste
> using liquid smoke but I could be wrong.

I found them to taste odd too and I didn't like their fries. Then when we
lived in NY we had to eat there when we went to the commissary if it was
around meal time because that's the only place to eat there. I think I got
tacos or maybe it was chili. And a salad. Whatever it was, they took it
off the menu. And whatever it was bore no resemblance taste wise to what it
should have been. But I could eat it without thinking that I had a horrid
taste in my mouth.

Then some years went by and I started liking the fries. Then they changed
them. And they are more like a steak fry in size and shape but soggy,
greasy and anemic. My parents spit theirs out and refused to eat any more.
I think I ate three of them. Daughter liked them. But this was at probably
a year ago or so when they were a brand new item. So they may have
perfected them since or they may be better at other locations.

The Wendy's in Lynnwood makes very good fries. But the one we tried in
Everett does not and their chili is horrid. More like soup. Lots of brothy
stuff, very little meat, only two beans in my paper cup once. I counted
them. And little in the way of flavor.

Tommy Joe wrote:
> On Jan 4, 4:32 am, projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
>> On Jan 3, 6:07 pm, Tommy Joe > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> That's what I'm on right now. The stove in this furnished
>>> apartment is like 50 years old, maybe more. The burners are
>>> inconsistent. So about two weeks ago I got into bringing restaurant
>>> food home. I'm proud of what I manage with it.
>>
>>> I go to one particular Chinese takeout spot and get two meals at
>>> a time. From those two I can easily make 4. But I have taken it a
>>> step further. I ask for a dollar's worth of extra meat in each box,
>>> usually pork no matter what kind of meat is already there, then add
>>> my own veggies later - fragile stuff that cooks down easily.
>>
>>> Here are 2 examples. Yesterday I bought some stuff called
>>> Singapore sumptinorother with pork and rice noodles and some veggies
>>> mixed in. I also bought a container of beef with bell pepper and
>>> onion with some carrots in there.
>>
>>> When I get home I slice some fresh napa cabbage into two
>>> containers, same amount into each. I also slice the green and white
>>> parts of a bunch of scallions into the mix along with a few cloves
>>> of smashed garlic. Some cilantro. A few hits of black pepper and
>>> cayenne pepper. And then the juice of half a lime into each mix.
>>> Then I pour the take-out food one apiece into each container and
>>> gently mix it up. I get 3 meals from each - that's 6 total lasting 3
>>> days at 2 meals a day. Not only do the added veggies and spices not
>>> screw up the meal, it actually improves it. The lime not only adds a
>>> pleasant zing, it also serves to moisten the food enough to make
>>> mixing in the fresh veggies easier. I microwave a plate at mealtime.
>>> The fragile veggies melt down easy and the other stuff does not
>>> overcook.
>>
>>> The lazy good for nothing chef of winston salem north carolina (nice
>>> break, no cooking)
>>> TJ
>>
>> LOL! We live in proximity of a small private college and the take-out
>> is fantastic (cuz of all the pot-smoke ya'll). We just don't do take-
>> out often, but yeah we got a great Chinese joint up the road. The
>> problem with Chinese food is yer hungry all the damn time. The best
>> Chinese joint ever was the one put up on the boulevard by a bunch of
>> Mexicans. They had a little Chinese guy in the back. It was, quite
>> simply, the BOMB.
>
>
> The "hungry an hour later" thing comes I believe from not enough
> protein. I ask for extra meat, a dollar per serving. I don't want a
> lot anyway, but I think buying the meat and adding veggies is better
> than the other way around as I use fragile veggies that need little
> cooking and blend into the sauces and soak up what's in there as if
> they had been cooked right in there. Hey, when you say Boulevard, you
> don't mean Hollywood Blvd, do you? I mean, with a name like
> Projectile Vomit Chick, you sound like you could have some Hollywood
> blood in you.
>
> Mr Hollywood,
> TJ

I don't really buy that. We went out for Chinese on Christmas Eve and it
was a restaurant I wasn't familiar with. I got the tomato beef and although
the flavor seemed right, something just wasn't super appealing about it.
And the rice didn't seem quite right either. I ate all of the rice and only
a few bites of the rest of my meal. I was sick at the time and didn't have
a really big appetite but still was hungry enough by the time that we got
home to want to eat again. And so was my daughter because her meal had too
much garlic in it for her and she is a garlic lover.

So about a week later we ate at the place we had *wanted* to eat at but we
thought they were closed because their website said they were closed on
Monadays. But no they were open. But I had already told the other place
that we would be back so... We just decided to try it.

The better restaurant did not have tomato beef listed on the menu but
tomato, pepper beef. Fine. Close enough. They even put some baby corn in
it. Score! Loved, loved, loved the stuff except for the meat. I don't
know what it is about meat from Chinese places but it just seems chewy and
fatty to me. I only ate two bites of the meat, all of the rice and most of
the vegetables. It was a huge platter of food. Felt stuffed and some hours
later still felt stuffed. Daughter had a chicken and pea pod dish. She did
the opposite of me. Ate a couple of bites of her vegetables and all of the
chicken. She was stuffed too.

I have a recipe for tomato beef that came from the most unlikely of places.
A neighbor kid was selling things for his school and they offered a little
Chinese cookbook. I bought it and wasn't very hopeful because the looks of
the book didn't make it seem overly authentic but the end result was just
like I had gotten in the restaurants in the International disctrict here and
in San Francisco. But I used Spencer steak and my meat was actually edible.
Sadly, nobody in this house but me likes this dish so I quit making it. But
I did make it for a potluck at work once and everybody loved it.

On 1/5/2013 5:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/4/2013 5:58 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think I have ever had steak fries with skins on.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are good, Julie@
>>>>
>>>> I don't like steak fries much. I'll eat a couple but... They're
>>>> not crisp enough for me.
>>>
>>> Ummmm.... they can be as crisp as any other fries. The ones you've
>>> tried probably weren't cooked long enough on high heat.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>> Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
>> consistency of a baked potato inside. Except they're fries.
>
> Hmmm... I have never ever had crisp ones but then I won't order them if
> there is a choice of something else because I have gotten too many soft
> ones. Really, restaurant fries are losing their appeal to me. I don't know
> what they are doing wrong. Perhaps the oil is not hot enough? I can't
> remember the last time I got any really crispy ones. I can do the oven ones
> at home but then when I'm at home there are a ton of other foods I'd rather
> eat than fries.

You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>
> Jill


And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil

Gary

On Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:34:11 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right
>
> >>>> next to the
>
> >>>> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints
>
> >>>> about that from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to
>
> >>>> me.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks
>
> >>> coffee, imo.
>
> >>
>
> >> Any coffee is better than that IMO. But most people seem to like it
>
> >> here.
>
> >
>
> > Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.
>
>
>
> Yeah. I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even managed to
>
> sell bottled water that tasted bad! I used to drink a lot of coffee but
>
> just plain old black coffee. And here that is getting harder and harder to
>
> find. I hate even getting it for my daughter at one of the many drive
>
> through coffee huts that are all over the place here. They ask soo many
>
> questions because I guess a lot of people are super picky about their
>
> coffee. I'm just like... Whatever. However you would normally make it.
>
> Just be sure it's sugar free. She's not all that picky. The only coffee
>
> she ever had that she didn't like came from McDonalds but... We did get it
>
> at 10:00 at night and they charged me some very weird amount for it. I
>
> can't remember the amount but it was far less than a dollar. So I suspect
>
> that it had sat there in the pot all day.

You, stupid, stupid woman. Your daughter didn't like the McD's coffee because she has all the taste of a buzzard. I can't remember the last time I got a coffee from McD's that was bad. It's about as low quality as I'd buy, but they do not leave coffee sit all day. They have pretty strict standards for how old they let coffee get. Their regular drip coffee is certainly better than the trash (Folger's type) that you refer to as "plain old black coffee." If I'm driving long distance, I pretty much always stop at McD's for coffee, and it's always the same, never bad, never good, but an inoffensive way to get a caffeine fix.

--Bryan

Gary wrote:

> > I think everything at Burger King tastes like propane.
>
> Years ago, their whoppers were good but made me feel ill.

For a while, BK turned off the open flame and STEAMED their burgers.

jmcquown wrote:

> Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
> consistency of a baked potato inside. Except they're fries.

Turns out that combination is easy to achieve in the oven. No frying.

On 1/5/2013 10:42 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
>> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
>> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
>> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
> shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil
>
> Gary
>
I don't deep fry, I bake the shoestring type and they come out nice and
crispy when cooked in a very hot oven. Even the thicker cut "steak
fries" turn out crispy on the outside. Who's in charge?

I'm not sure at what point the child became the one who is in control
over what Julie cooks. As long as she lets this kid pick and choose,
she's going to be forever under her control.

There were lots of things I didn't like as a child. (Some I still
don't.) Yes, I'm a picky eater. I had to at least *try* whatever it
was. Mom didn't refrain from preparing something even if she knew
(and/or my brothers) might not like it. Liver and onions comes to mind.
She and Dad loved it. That one time we *had* to eat it. After that
she only cooked it for the two of them. We got TV dinners, which was a
fun thing treat that rarely happened. LOL

Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL

It is *not* economical to be eating out all the time. I don't care how
much running around Julie and her daughter have to do. Paying for
dining out, even when running errands, is not economical.

Jill

On Saturday, January 5, 2013 10:39:35 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/5/2013 10:42 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
>
> >> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
>
> >> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
>
> >> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>
> >>
>
> >> Jill
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
>
> > shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil
>
> >
>
> > Gary
>
> >
>
> I don't deep fry, I bake the shoestring type and they come out nice and
>
> crispy when cooked in a very hot oven. Even the thicker cut "steak
>
> fries" turn out crispy on the outside. Who's in charge?
>
>
>
> I'm not sure at what point the child became the one who is in control
>
> over what Julie cooks. As long as she lets this kid pick and choose,
>
> she's going to be forever under her control.
>
>
>
> There were lots of things I didn't like as a child. (Some I still
>
> don't.) Yes, I'm a picky eater. I had to at least *try* whatever it
>
> was. Mom didn't refrain from preparing something even if she knew
>
> (and/or my brothers) might not like it. Liver and onions comes to mind.
>
> She and Dad loved it. That one time we *had* to eat it. After that
>
> she only cooked it for the two of them. We got TV dinners, which was a
>
> fun thing treat that rarely happened. LOL
>
>
>
> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
>
> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
>
> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
>
> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>
>
>
> It is *not* economical to be eating out all the time. I don't care how
>
> much running around Julie and her daughter have to do. Paying for
>
> dining out, even when running errands, is not economical.
>
When you add up all of the stuff she writes, it just doesn't end up looking credible. No one could be that defective. I think she's a fictitious character. There have been a lot of those over the years, and rfc has had its share.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Jan 5, 5:51*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

> The better restaurant did not have tomato beef listed on the menu but
> tomato, pepper beef. *Fine. *Close enough. *They even put some baby corn in
> it. *Score! *Loved, loved, loved the stuff except for the meat. *I don't
> know what it is about meat from Chinese places but it just seems chewy and
> fatty to me. *I only ate two bites of the meat, all of the rice and most of
> the vegetables. *It was a huge platter of food. *Felt stuffed and some hours
> later still felt stuffed. *Daughter had a chicken and pea pod dish. *She did
> the opposite of me. *Ate a couple of bites of her vegetables and all of the
> chicken. *She was stuffed too.


The chinese takeout where I get my food to take home and doctor up
is a cheap joint like most takeout places. The meat is typically not
the greatest, but for the price what does one expect? Some days it is
more tender than others, or cut better. I know they use cheap meats
and slice them thinly, sometimes not thin enough, and what looks like
a lot of meat on the plate is not really that much, which is why I pay
a dollar extra for just a bit more. I just think it's a good way of
taking a break from cooking and also extending the meal by adding
one's own fresh veggies to the mix. As I said the first time, the
veggies have to be fragile so they cook down and blend into the
already cooked meal, and they also have to be cut the right size,
which is determined by trial and error. I have it down to a science.
In fact, I'm leaving here in about 10 minutes for a 50 minute
roundabout walk to the market where the chinese takeout joint is
located. I will buy some stuff at the market as well as enough
chinese takeout food to last through Monday or Tuesday, then walk home
a mile and a half.

TJ

TJ

On Jan 5, 10:58*am, George M. Middius > wrote:


> jmcquown wrote:
> > Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
> > consistency of a baked potato inside. *Except they're fries.
>
> Turns out that combination is easy to achieve in the oven. No frying.



I don't eat fries a lot because I don't eat out a lot. But I've
been in plenty of conversations with people about the way we like our
fries. It's funny how some people have just one way to like things.
I can like fries a variety of ways - crisp, thin, thick, even soft and
brown and soaked in grease like the ones I used to get on LaBrea near
Fountain in Hollywood California. They were so sogged out from grease
you could feel and see it through the cardboard container in which
they came. They were a welcomed switch from the usual thin fastfood
crispy type. If fattening foods are looked on as a treat it's really
not so bad. A person can eat very well and have a good fattening or
sweet treat every day, maybe even two or three, as long as they're not
trying to live on the stuff. People with medical problems who must
refrain, that's another story.

TJ

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/5/2013 5:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/4/2013 5:58 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think I have ever had steak fries with skins on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are good, Julie@
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like steak fries much. I'll eat a couple but... They're
>>>>> not crisp enough for me.
>>>>
>>>> Ummmm.... they can be as crisp as any other fries. The ones you've
>>>> tried probably weren't cooked long enough on high heat.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>> Really good steak fries *are* crispy outside and sort of have the
>>> consistency of a baked potato inside. Except they're fries.
>>
>> Hmmm... I have never ever had crisp ones but then I won't order them if
>> there is a choice of something else because I have gotten too many soft
>> ones. Really, restaurant fries are losing their appeal to me. I don't
>> know
>> what they are doing wrong. Perhaps the oil is not hot enough? I can't
>> remember the last time I got any really crispy ones. I can do the oven
>> ones
>> at home but then when I'm at home there are a ton of other foods I'd
>> rather
>> eat than fries.
>
> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the freezer
> for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat them all
> the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years ago...
> whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)

I do have them at home. But we never seem to want to eat them at home.
Just threw out the remains of a badly freezer burned package. Can't
remember when I even bought them. Had skin on and don't even remember
buying them but obviously I did.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
>> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
>> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
>> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
> shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil

I won't deep fry at home any more. Gave away my good deep fryer back in the
80's when I won a new one but it was crud. Didn't get hot enough to work
right. I don't really eat much fried food so that is why when I do get
something like that, I get it at a restaurant. It's also easy for me anyway
to eat a bite or two of something in a restaurant and then walk away from
it. But at home if I have more of something like that I am inclined to sit
there and eat it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/5/2013 10:42 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
>>> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have to eat
>>> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20 years
>>> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
>> shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil
>>
>> Gary
>>
> I don't deep fry, I bake the shoestring type and they come out nice and
> crispy when cooked in a very hot oven. Even the thicker cut "steak fries"
> turn out crispy on the outside. Who's in charge?
>
> I'm not sure at what point the child became the one who is in control over
> what Julie cooks. As long as she lets this kid pick and choose, she's
> going to be forever under her control.

I have always let her eat what she wants provided that her diet is balanced
and she's not eating junk. Yes, the fries were junk but we only bought a
small order to split and then we didn't even eat them. Unlike probably most
people, we didn't eat stuff like cookies, candy, cake, or other party type
foods and it was Christmas. So I didn't have a problem getting the fries.
Until I tasted them of course.
>
> There were lots of things I didn't like as a child. (Some I still don't.)
> Yes, I'm a picky eater. I had to at least *try* whatever it was. Mom
> didn't refrain from preparing something even if she knew (and/or my
> brothers) might not like it. Liver and onions comes to mind. She and Dad
> loved it. That one time we *had* to eat it. After that she only cooked
> it for the two of them. We got TV dinners, which was a fun thing treat
> that rarely happened. LOL

Angela does have to try foods. But if she doesn't like it, I won't keep
trying to serve it to her. Yes, I might wait and try it again once or
twice. As for the TV dinners, my mom seemed to love them and they were
often a Friday occurance at our house.
>
> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL

Nope. We pretty much only go out on Saturdays and only then because my mom
won't eat at home. Or cook. Or have anyone cook for her at home. She'd
rather take restaurant food home and eat it rather than have home cooked.
And because it is rather necessary to see my parents, and she can't drive
any more, we do take her out. Used to be for lunch *and* dinner. But
mostly we have been finding an excuse to come home to eat our dinner.
However seeing as how my mom has been eating seemingly nothing but popcorn
(from Christmas presents) and doesn't keep much food in the house I am torn
on this issue. Angela and I don't want to eat two meals out but if we don't
take grandma out then she's not going to get good nutrition once again.

I can't tell you the last time I cooked chicken breasts at home. Bought
them? Yes. I have some in the freezer now. They are Weight Watchers. Got
them on sale and with a Twice the Value coupon so cheap. When I do cook
them, my intent is to show her that I am following the package directions
to a tee. And then if she does not like them, I will tell her that it is
her own fault.
>
> It is *not* economical to be eating out all the time. I don't care how
> much running around Julie and her daughter have to do. Paying for dining
> out, even when running errands, is not economical.

I know that. But that's how I grew up. We went out to eat more than we
didn't. And when just my daughter and I eat out, we do not get expensive
food. I spoke to the owner of the Mexican place where we are going today.
Angela likes a chicken dish there but she can't have the rice and there is
far too much chicken on it for her to finish. So now he makes a much
smaller meal just for her and charges us much less. Me? I almost always
get the black bean soup. Maybe a side of pinto beans and a salad.

On 1/4/2013 10:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> eb.com...
>>>> On 1/4/2013 1:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Chemo" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Try the McDonalds $1.00 menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can anyone eat that stuff? Granted I haven't eaten it for
>>>>> many years but when my daughter was craving French fries the other
>>>>> day and we were by
>>>>> one, I went through the drive though and got some. Even after she
>>>>> begged me
>>>>> not to. And what we got where totally inedible. Not overly
>>>>> greasy but not
>>>>> crisp either and really pretty flavorless. We each took a small
>>>>> bite and put them in with the yard waste. I had remembered them
>>>>> as being the best fries around. But that's not the case any more.
>>>>> And now they don't even have the good salads like they used to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Julie, why would you buy your dieting daughter greasy french fries
>>>> when she begged you not to??
>>>
>>> Because *I* wanted one.
>>
>> So it was you craving FF's. Why not just say so?
>
> Well, no. I wasn't. Not until she mentioned them.
>>
>> Why drag your daughter into it unless you wanted yet another
>> opportunity to paint her in a negative light for food refusal.
>
> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right next to the
> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints about that
> from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to me.
>
>
But isn't she like 12? I don't know many 12 year olds that like coffee,
or should even drink it.

Bryan wrote:
> On Saturday, January 5, 2013 10:39:35 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/5/2013 10:42 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> You're the one who brought up french fries. I'd keep a bag in the
>>
>>>> freezer for when you or your daughter want fries. You don't have
>>>> to eat
>>
>>>> them all the time. (McD's fries stopped being good at *least* 20
>>>> years
>>
>>>> ago... whenever it was they stopped frying them in actual fat.)
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Jill
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> And for Julie and daughter... if you want nice crisp fries, buy the
>>
>>> shoestring ones and deep fry them in hot oil
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Gary
>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't deep fry, I bake the shoestring type and they come out nice
>> and
>>
>> crispy when cooked in a very hot oven. Even the thicker cut "steak
>>
>> fries" turn out crispy on the outside. Who's in charge?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure at what point the child became the one who is in control
>>
>> over what Julie cooks. As long as she lets this kid pick and choose,
>>
>> she's going to be forever under her control.
>>
>>
>>
>> There were lots of things I didn't like as a child. (Some I still
>>
>> don't.) Yes, I'm a picky eater. I had to at least *try* whatever it
>>
>> was. Mom didn't refrain from preparing something even if she knew
>>
>> (and/or my brothers) might not like it. Liver and onions comes to
>> mind.
>>
>> She and Dad loved it. That one time we *had* to eat it. After
>> that
>>
>> she only cooked it for the two of them. We got TV dinners, which
>> was a
>>
>> fun thing treat that rarely happened. LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking
>> her
>>
>> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
>>
>> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make
>> it at
>>
>> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> It is *not* economical to be eating out all the time. I don't care
>> how
>>
>> much running around Julie and her daughter have to do. Paying for
>>
>> dining out, even when running errands, is not economical.
>>
> When you add up all of the stuff she writes, it just doesn't end up
> looking credible. No one could be that defective. I think she's a
> fictitious character. There have been a lot of those over the years,
> and rfc has had its share.

Nope. I'm the real deal. I only just wish you were a fictious character
but sadly I think you're not.

Bryan wrote:
> On Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:34:11 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> ...
>>
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right
>>
>>>>>> next to the
>>
>>>>>> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints
>>
>>>>>> about that from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to
>>
>>>>>> me.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks
>>
>>>>> coffee, imo.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Any coffee is better than that IMO. But most people seem to like
>>>> it
>>
>>>> here.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah. I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even
>> managed to
>>
>> sell bottled water that tasted bad! I used to drink a lot of coffee
>> but
>>
>> just plain old black coffee. And here that is getting harder and
>> harder to
>>
>> find. I hate even getting it for my daughter at one of the many
>> drive
>>
>> through coffee huts that are all over the place here. They ask soo
>> many
>>
>> questions because I guess a lot of people are super picky about their
>>
>> coffee. I'm just like... Whatever. However you would normally
>> make it.
>>
>> Just be sure it's sugar free. She's not all that picky. The only
>> coffee
>>
>> she ever had that she didn't like came from McDonalds but... We did
>> get it
>>
>> at 10:00 at night and they charged me some very weird amount for it.
>> I
>>
>> can't remember the amount but it was far less than a dollar. So I
>> suspect
>>
>> that it had sat there in the pot all day.
>
> You, stupid, stupid woman. Your daughter didn't like the McD's
> coffee because she has all the taste of a buzzard. I can't remember
> the last time I got a coffee from McD's that was bad. It's about as
> low quality as I'd buy, but they do not leave coffee sit all day.
> They have pretty strict standards for how old they let coffee get.
> Their regular drip coffee is certainly better than the trash
> (Folger's type) that you refer to as "plain old black coffee." If
> I'm driving long distance, I pretty much always stop at McD's for
> coffee, and it's always the same, never bad, never good, but an
> inoffensive way to get a caffeine fix.

Having never tried it, I can't comment. But this also wasn't a regular
McDonalds. It was the kind in a Walmart. And it was 10:00 at night. As
for the Folger's, when I did drink coffee that was usually what I bought.

On 1/5/2013 11:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>
Actually Julie is allergic to chicken.

> It is *not* economical to be eating out all the time. I don't care how
> much running around Julie and her daughter have to do. Paying for
> dining out, even when running errands, is not economical.

On Jan 5, 12:26*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:34:11 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> Gary wrote:
>
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right
>
> >>>>>> next to the
>
> >>>>>> McDonalds. *She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. *No complaints
>
> >>>>>> about that from her. *I can't stand the stuff. *Tastes charred to
>
> >>>>>> me.
>
> >>>>> 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks
>
> >>>>> coffee, imo.
>
> >>>> Any coffee is better than that IMO. *But most people seem to like
> >>>> it
>
> >>>> here.
>
> >>> Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.
>
> >> Yeah. *I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even
> >> managed to
>
> >> sell bottled water that tasted bad! *I used to drink a lot of coffee
> >> but
>
> >> just plain old black coffee. *And here that is getting harder and
> >> harder to
>
> >> find. *I hate even getting it for my daughter at one of the many
> >> drive
>
> >> through coffee huts that are all over the place here. *They ask soo
> >> many
>
> >> questions because I guess a lot of people are super picky about their
>
> >> coffee. *I'm just like... *Whatever. *However you would normally
> >> make it.
>
> >> Just be sure it's sugar free. *She's not all that picky. *The only
> >> coffee
>
> >> she ever had that she didn't like came from McDonalds but... *We did
> >> get it
>
> >> at 10:00 at night and they charged me some very weird amount for it.
> >> I
>
> >> can't remember the amount but it was far less than a dollar. *So I
> >> suspect
>
> >> that it had sat there in the pot all day.
>
> > You, stupid, stupid woman. *Your daughter didn't like the McD's
> > coffee because she has all the taste of a buzzard. *I can't remember
> > the last time I got a coffee from McD's that was bad. *It's about as
> > low quality as I'd buy, but they do not leave coffee sit all day.
> > They have pretty strict standards for how old they let coffee get.
> > Their regular drip coffee is certainly better than the trash
> > (Folger's type) that you refer to as "plain old black coffee." *If
> > I'm driving long distance, I pretty much always stop at McD's for
> > coffee, and it's always the same, never bad, never good, but an
> > inoffensive way to get a caffeine fix.
>
> Having never tried it, I can't comment. *But this also wasn't a regular
> McDonalds. *It was the kind in a Walmart. *And it was 10:00 at night. *As
> for the Folger's, when I did drink coffee that was usually what I bought.

There's no difference between a McD's in a Walmart and one on the
corner.

On 1/5/2013 3:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 1/5/2013 11:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
>> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
>> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
>> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>>
> Actually Julie is allergic to chicken.
>
That's not what she said previously. She said she is intolerant. Maybe
it makes her flatulent, constipates her, I don't really know or care.

Jill

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 1/5/2013 11:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
>> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
>> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
>> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>>
> Actually Julie is allergic to chicken.

Not allergic but intolerant to.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/5/2013 3:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 1/5/2013 11:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Julie talks about "economical". But it appears she's always taking her
>>> daughter out to eat. She said she'll eat the chicken they get when
>>> they're eating out but when Julie buys the chicken breasts to make it at
>>> home her daughter won't eat it. Present the kid with a bill. LOL
>>>
>> Actually Julie is allergic to chicken.
>>
> That's not what she said previously. She said she is intolerant. Maybe
> it makes her flatulent, constipates her, I don't really know or care.

Correct. Intolerant. AKA IgG allergy but... I will no longer refer to it
as that because people with IgE food allergies (the kind that can kill you)
seem to get all bent out of shape with the term.

"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 5, 12:26 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:34:11 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> Gary wrote:
>
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right
>
> >>>>>> next to the
>
> >>>>>> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints
>
> >>>>>> about that from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to
>
> >>>>>> me.
>
> >>>>> 7-11 coffee is much better and cheaper than cool-kid Starbucks
>
> >>>>> coffee, imo.
>
> >>>> Any coffee is better than that IMO. But most people seem to like
> >>>> it
>
> >>>> here.
>
> >>> Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.
>
> >> Yeah. I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even
> >> managed to
>
> >> sell bottled water that tasted bad! I used to drink a lot of coffee
> >> but
>
> >> just plain old black coffee. And here that is getting harder and
> >> harder to
>
> >> find. I hate even getting it for my daughter at one of the many
> >> drive
>
> >> through coffee huts that are all over the place here. They ask soo
> >> many
>
> >> questions because I guess a lot of people are super picky about their
>
> >> coffee. I'm just like... Whatever. However you would normally
> >> make it.
>
> >> Just be sure it's sugar free. She's not all that picky. The only
> >> coffee
>
> >> she ever had that she didn't like came from McDonalds but... We did
> >> get it
>
> >> at 10:00 at night and they charged me some very weird amount for it.
> >> I
>
> >> can't remember the amount but it was far less than a dollar. So I
> >> suspect
>
> >> that it had sat there in the pot all day.
>
> > You, stupid, stupid woman. Your daughter didn't like the McD's
> > coffee because she has all the taste of a buzzard. I can't remember
> > the last time I got a coffee from McD's that was bad. It's about as
> > low quality as I'd buy, but they do not leave coffee sit all day.
> > They have pretty strict standards for how old they let coffee get.
> > Their regular drip coffee is certainly better than the trash
> > (Folger's type) that you refer to as "plain old black coffee." If
> > I'm driving long distance, I pretty much always stop at McD's for
> > coffee, and it's always the same, never bad, never good, but an
> > inoffensive way to get a caffeine fix.
>
> Having never tried it, I can't comment. But this also wasn't a regular
> McDonalds. It was the kind in a Walmart. And it was 10:00 at night. As
> for the Folger's, when I did drink coffee that was usually what I bought.

There's no difference between a McD's in a Walmart and one on the
corner.

Well it appeared to me that there was. Much smaller place and I think the
menu selections are smaller too. Just like it was at the military
commissary. They used to have one at the Smokey Point Commissary and also a
Subway. Both had more limited menu offerings than the free standing
locations. And there was a Taco Bell at the Commissary at Travis AFB that
had a limited menu.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 1/4/2013 10:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>>> eb.com...
>>>>> On 1/4/2013 1:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Chemo" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try the McDonalds $1.00 menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can anyone eat that stuff? Granted I haven't eaten it for
>>>>>> many years but when my daughter was craving French fries the other
>>>>>> day and we were by
>>>>>> one, I went through the drive though and got some. Even after she
>>>>>> begged me
>>>>>> not to. And what we got where totally inedible. Not overly
>>>>>> greasy but not
>>>>>> crisp either and really pretty flavorless. We each took a small
>>>>>> bite and put them in with the yard waste. I had remembered them
>>>>>> as being the best fries around. But that's not the case any more.
>>>>>> And now they don't even have the good salads like they used to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, why would you buy your dieting daughter greasy french fries
>>>>> when she begged you not to??
>>>>
>>>> Because *I* wanted one.
>>>
>>> So it was you craving FF's. Why not just say so?
>>
>> Well, no. I wasn't. Not until she mentioned them.
>>>
>>> Why drag your daughter into it unless you wanted yet another
>>> opportunity to paint her in a negative light for food refusal.
>>
>> She is the one who brought them up and we happened to be right next to
>> the
>> McDonalds. She also wanted a Starbucks coffee. No complaints about that
>> from her. I can't stand the stuff. Tastes charred to me.
>>
>>
> But isn't she like 12? I don't know many 12 year olds that like coffee, or
> should even drink it.

You don't live in the Seattle area. Most all kids drink coffee here. She
started late. Didn't start till she was 12. She's now 14. What's wrong
with coffee? And why shouldn't they drink it? It does come in decaf you
know.

On 1/5/2013 3:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Nope. We pretty much only go out on Saturdays and only then because my mom
> won't eat at home. Or cook. Or have anyone cook for her at home. She'd
> rather take restaurant food home and eat it rather than have home cooked.
> And because it is rather necessary to see my parents, and she can't drive
> any more, we do take her out. Used to be for lunch*and* dinner. But
> mostly we have been finding an excuse to come home to eat our dinner.
> However seeing as how my mom has been eating seemingly nothing but popcorn
> (from Christmas presents) and doesn't keep much food in the house I am torn
> on this issue. Angela and I don't want to eat two meals out but if we don't
> take grandma out then she's not going to get good nutrition once again.

What does your mom do the rest of the week?

Cheryl wrote:
> On 1/5/2013 3:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nope. We pretty much only go out on Saturdays and only then because
>> my mom won't eat at home. Or cook. Or have anyone cook for her at
>> home. She'd rather take restaurant food home and eat it rather than
>> have home cooked. And because it is rather necessary to see my
>> parents, and she can't drive any more, we do take her out. Used to
>> be for lunch*and* dinner. But mostly we have been finding an
>> excuse to come home to eat our dinner. However seeing as how my mom
>> has been eating seemingly nothing but popcorn (from Christmas
>> presents) and doesn't keep much food in the house I am torn on this
>> issue. Angela and I don't want to eat two meals out but if we don't
>> take grandma out then she's not going to get good nutrition once
>> again.
>
> What does your mom do the rest of the week?

She goes out with one of her friends or my SIL or my brother and perhaps my
nephew. We were alone in her house today while she was gone. My dad had to
go back to the ER again but by the time we got there (many delays that I
won't bother to get into) he had been released. We did go later to his
place to see him. Anyway... Daughter checked the cupboard, fridge and
freezer and did find more food there than she usually has. And she
mentioned to us that she was going to go home and make something for
breakfast. I can't remember what it was not. It wasn't even a breakfast
food. But at least I know that she is eating now. I think perhaps someone
finally managed to talk some sense into her and and got her to see that she
is simply going to have to keep some food in the house now. We all have
busy lives for a variety of reasons and the only ones of us who live near
her are my SIL and brother but my brother works long hours and his work is
in the city where I live. So it's not like the days where I lived a block
from her house and could just go right over to see to something or take her
somewhere.

We had tried in vain to get the two of them into an assisted living place
near us. And there are several. And I think it would have been cheaper
than where my dad is now. But she would hear none of it and I could tell
she would fight me tooth and nail if I pressed the issue. Plus we were not
being backed up by other family members. But we're beyond that now because
my father's health has declined to the point where I do not think such a
place would even work for him now.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Starbucks is way overpriced and does not impress me at all.
>
> Yeah. I don't even like their tea and the one in Alameda even managed to
> sell bottled water that tasted bad! I used to drink a lot of coffee but
> just plain old black coffee. And here that is getting harder and harder to
> find.

I went into a specialty coffee store once and they had dozens of coffee
beans of all kinds of flavors, etc. I looked around forever until someone
asked me, "Can I help you?"

Me: Yeah...I just want to buy a pound of PLAIN coffee.

They sold me some but it wasn't all that. Or maybe it's my coffee pot at
home that screws it up? My favorite coffee maker at home was my glass
french press but it eventually broke one day. I need to get out and buy a
new one.

Still though....7-11 coffee is the best commercial that I've ever had. It
sure beats the nonsense that I make at home. I don't buy it often but when I
do I think, "Now *this* is good coffee." Not a big issue for me though since
I only drink one cup in the morning and that's all for the day.

And that's the reason I don't buy the 7-11 coffee more often. I get up in
the morning and want my one cup for the day. I do NOT want to drive to 7-11
to get it that early.

I made a cup of especially *BAD* coffee this morning using store brand
instant and evaporated milk for the cream. It was so bad, I added 1/2
teaspoon sugar to it but that made it worse, not better. arrghhhh!

Gary

> Gary wrote:
> >>> I'm not familiar with many fast food places but in my
> >>> opinion....between McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's. Wendy's
> >>> makes the best fries of the three.

And Hardees makes the best fried chicken....at least years ago, they did.

I'm over McDonalds. The last 2 times I've been there, the burgers were not
good. The last time I went there, the fries had obviously been sitting under
the hot light for hours. They were dry and crunchy...even the inside parts.
Not even edible, imo.

Gary