I am going to try Rissoles this coming week. Since daughter loves meatloaf,
she might like these. And unless someone tells me otherwise why this would
not work, I plan to make tiny ones like slider sized. I am not using an
actual recipe but sort of a compilation of stuff that I saw on the Internet.
Ground beef, (have two pounds out warming to room temp.), one onion, red and
green bell pepper, carrot, zucchini, summer squash, parsley, oregano,
garlic, salt, pepper, ketchup and mustard. I do have more beef if it looks
like they will need it. Because I love veggies so much I tend to put too
many in and although we still like the end result, it won't taste much like
meat. I have only whole wheat and sweet rice flour. Intend to use the
sweet rice flour to dust with, again unless someone tells me otherwise. It
just seems like the whole wheat flour might have the wrong texture. I am
not adding any starchy fillers to the mix nor am I adding egg, which is
another reason why I am going to keep them tiny. I figure they might hold
together better.

I kept the trimmings and put them in a bag in the freezer for stock.

I also froze the remains of a loaf of bread so I can make a cheese strata
when my husband comes home. Am also going to see if I can find a breakfast
casserole that doesn't use meat. I used to make that a lot and used sausage
but with the gout thing I am trying to cut back on the meat I serve when he
is home. Daughter and I liked the South Beach stuffing the first couple of
times that I made it but we quickly grew sick of it and husband didn't like
it at all. Not sure what all else I can use bread for. We don't eat bread
pudding and we're not into croutons.

Got the freezer stocked with some veggies from Target. Daughter was not
pleased with some of my choices but I told her that we needed to expand our
veggie horizons. Will also cook up a pound of dried beans.

I plan to make the whole wheat and sweet potato gnocchi. Daughter turned up
her nose at it but I told her that she will have to try eating one. I am
not so sure I will like them. Even though I like the concept of gnocchi, I
have never had any that I liked. Granted I only tried the dried ones twice
and got them at a restaurant in Reno but the seemed just like the dried
ones. And my in-laws have told me those are not so good. Yes, these that I
have are dried ones too. Well if we don't like them, it's no great loss.
They didn't cost much. And I can always cook a little pasta rather quickly
if we don't.

Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that daughter
will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some cases I am pretty
sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen chicken breast. But when I
buy those, she won't eat them.

Janet wrote:

> In article >, says...
>
> > Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that daughter
> > will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some cases I am pretty
> > sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen chicken breast. But when I
> > buy those, she won't eat them.
>
> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending on her
> tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in the body
> cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>
> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or some
> kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The carcase can
> then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>
> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.

I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from there.

On 1/5/2013 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that daughter
>>> will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some cases I am pretty
>>> sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen chicken breast. But when I
>>> buy those, she won't eat them.
>>
>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending on her
>> tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in the body
>> cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>>
>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or some
>> kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The carcase can
>> then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>
>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>
> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from there.
>
Common sense advice. Of course her daughter won't like it... I have no
idea how old this girl is but it sounds to me if she's so darn picky she
needs to learn how to cook for herself.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/5/2013 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>>>> daughter
>>>> will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some cases I am
>>>> pretty
>>>> sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen chicken breast. But
>>>> when I
>>>> buy those, she won't eat them.
>>>
>>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending on
>>> her
>>> tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in the body
>>> cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>>>
>>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or some
>>> kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The carcase can
>>> then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>>
>>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>>
>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>> there.
>>
> Common sense advice. Of course her daughter won't like it... I have no
> idea how old this girl is but it sounds to me if she's so darn picky she
> needs to learn how to cook for herself.
>
> Jill

She should just take the kid to the restaurant with the chicken she will
eat, and leave her there.

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>> daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
>> chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>
> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending on
> her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in the
> body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.

Now that would be wasteful. Not that I would do it because I will just not
cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. Just disgusts me
to look at it. And daughter won't eat things with bones. And nobody in
this house eats roast chicken. I did bring home rotissary chickens maybe
three time and wound up having to throw them out every time. Husband did
little more than pick at it and say that it was no good and daughter didn't
like it either. I bought different flavors at different stores. Frankly I
don't think I have ever even *eaten* a roast chicken. It is nothing we ever
had at home. I don't think my mom ever even bought a whole chicken other
than those Rock Cornish Game hens and oh how I hated those. I would do
everything in my power to avoid eating the thing.
>
> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or some
> kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The carcase can
> then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.

Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house. Daughter and I don't
like sandwiches and husband does but doesn't like chicken. Not that he's
home because he's not. We don't eat curry. I take it that is common where
you live. It's not common here and we don't like the taste of it. We don't
eat pie. Daughter will eat chicken and pasta but I can't eat chicken at all
so when I make it for her, it's canned chicken and she does like that. She
won't eat soup either unless she is really sick and I tell her she has to.
So no need for chicken stock.
>
> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.

No it's not because assuming I could even bring myself to do such a thing,
it would wind up in the trash because nobody would eat it. Daughter only
likes boneless, skinless chicken breasts, plain with perhaps only a touch of
lemon, salt and pepper. No other seasonings. And they have to be cooked in
some sort of way I have yet to achieve. If there is cheese, or sauce, or
other herbs or anything else, she won't eat it.

The only way I ever came up with to cook it that she would eat was in the
chicken Vesuvio. But when she found out there was wine in the recipe she
refused to eat it. I tried to make it without the wine but it was just not
good. That's all a moot point now though since that recipe doesn't fit with
the South Beach diet. And yes, there was sauce in that recipe but there
were other things mixed into it.

Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>>> daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
>>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
>>> chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>>
>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending on
>> her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in the
>> body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>>
>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The
>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>
>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>
> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
> there.

That just makes no sense. She only likes the boneless, skinless breast. I
would have no use for the whole rest of the chicken. Nobody would eat it.
Why buy stuff that nobody will eat?

jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/5/2013 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>>>> daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
>>>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
>>>> chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>>>
>>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending
>>> on her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in
>>> the body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>>>
>>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
>>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The
>>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>>
>>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>>
>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>> there.
> Common sense advice. Of course her daughter won't like it... I have
> no idea how old this girl is but it sounds to me if she's so darn
> picky she needs to learn how to cook for herself.

She's 14 and does not want to cook. She does know how to make a few things
because I forced her to learn. These days you really don't have to cook to
eat. Most people I know do not cook. And they don't teach it in schools
here any more either. And how is it common sense to cook parts of the
chicken that nobody would eat?

When I was a kid, I hated chicken and if forced to eat it, I would eat only
a couple of bites of the white meat. Aside from when I was really young,
like a toddler, I would not eat the dark meat. There is a story of me
eating a drumstick in a restaurant and not wanting to give up the bone. I
was too young to remember.

I do remember getting into a horrid fight when my grandma was babysitting me
and she tried to force me to eat a drumstick because that was the part that
went to the children. I just would not eat it. My dad walked in on the
scene, asked what the problem was and then took me out for a roast beef
dinner. My grandma was livid. But... I rather lived a Princessy existance
as a child when the finances allowed. Yes, we had lean times because my dad
worked for Boeing. And they were known to cut hours at times.

On Jan 5, 1:02*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/5/2013 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> Janet wrote:
>
> >>> In article >,
> >>> says...
> >>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
> >>>> daughter will eat. *She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
> >>>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
> >>>> chicken breast. *But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>
> >>> * * *Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending
> >>> on her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon in
> >>> the body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the skin.
>
> >>> * After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
> >>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or *pasta bake. The
> >>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>
> >>> * * Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>
> >> I agree with you, Janet. *Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
> >> there.
> > Common sense advice. *Of course her daughter won't like it... *I have
> > no idea how old this girl is but it sounds to me if she's so darn
> > picky she needs to learn how to cook for herself.
>
> She's 14 and does not want to cook. *She does know how to make a few things
> because I forced her to learn. *These days you really don't have to cook to
> eat. *Most people I know do not cook. *And they don't teach it in schools
> here any more either. *And how is it common sense to cook parts of the
> chicken that nobody would eat?
>
> When I was a kid, I hated chicken and if forced to eat it, I would eat only
> a couple of bites of the white meat. *Aside from when I was really young,
> like a toddler, I would not eat the dark meat. *There is a story of me
> eating a drumstick in a restaurant and not wanting to give up the bone. *I
> was too young to remember.
>
> I do remember getting into a horrid fight when my grandma was babysitting me
> and she tried to force me to eat a drumstick because that was the part that
> went to the children. *I just would not eat it. *My dad walked in on the
> scene, asked what the problem was and then took me out for a roast beef
> dinner. *My grandma was livid. *But... *I rather lived a Princessy existance
> as a child when the finances allowed. *Yes, we had lean times because my dad
> worked for Boeing. *And they were known to cut hours at times.

I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like chicken. Why don't you like it?

On 1/5/2013 6:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> I will just not
>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast chicken.
> ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house.... Daughter and
> I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We don't
>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>
> Just listen to yourself.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
All I hear is white noise.

Jill

On 05/01/2013 6:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> I will just not
>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast chicken.
> ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house.... Daughter and
> I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We don't
>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>
> Just listen to yourself.
>
> Janet UK
>
>


No no Janet. You have it wrong. She lives to have you listen to her.

On 05/01/2013 6:08 PM, Janet wrote:

>>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>>> there.
>>
>> That just makes no sense. She only likes the boneless, skinless breast.
>
> So slice the breast and peel off the skin. DUH.
>


She is the Bovine's daughter. She is not bright enough to figure that
out. She comes by it honestly.

On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:21:56 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>
> I will just not
>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
>won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast chicken.
>... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house.... Daughter and
>I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We don't
>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>
> Just listen to yourself.

I've somehow managed not to comment in the past... sure hasn't been
easy... not sure for how much longer I can maintain that though!

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
>
> I will just not
> > cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast chicken.
> ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house.... Daughter and
> I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We don't
> > eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>
> Just listen to yourself.

Kinda hard to keep track. I imagine this family
is starving to death.

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>>>>> daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
>>>>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
>>>>> chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>>>>
>>>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending
>>>> on her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon
>>>> in the body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the
>>>> skin.
>>>>
>>>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
>>>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The
>>>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>>>
>>>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>>>
>>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>>> there.
>>
>> That just makes no sense. She only likes the boneless, skinless
>> breast.
>
> So slice the breast and peel off the skin. DUH.

Uh... No! I am intolerant to chicken and I don't need to get a skin rash
from touching it. And then I would have to put the smelly skin in a biobag
that I have to pay for. I don't buy the precooked breasts. I did try that
and she doesn't like them. What I said was... I am certain that some of
the restaurants where she raves about the chicken are merely using precooked
breasts. And while I can buy those same chicken breasts and make them as
directed at home, she will say they are disgusting. We were at Smart and
Final/Cash and Carry today which is likely where a lot of restaurants in
this area get there chicken. I tried to buy some there but she wouldn't
have it.

Chemo wrote:
> On Jan 5, 1:02 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2013 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> Janet wrote:
>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken
>>>>>> that daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in
>>>>>> some cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked
>>>>>> frozen chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>>
>>>>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending
>>>>> on her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon
>>>>> in the body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the
>>>>> skin.
>>
>>>>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
>>>>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The
>>>>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>>
>>>>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>>
>>>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>>>> there.
>>> Common sense advice. Of course her daughter won't like it... I have
>>> no idea how old this girl is but it sounds to me if she's so darn
>>> picky she needs to learn how to cook for herself.
>>
>> She's 14 and does not want to cook. She does know how to make a few
>> things because I forced her to learn. These days you really don't
>> have to cook to eat. Most people I know do not cook. And they don't
>> teach it in schools here any more either. And how is it common sense
>> to cook parts of the chicken that nobody would eat?
>>
>> When I was a kid, I hated chicken and if forced to eat it, I would
>> eat only a couple of bites of the white meat. Aside from when I was
>> really young, like a toddler, I would not eat the dark meat. There
>> is a story of me eating a drumstick in a restaurant and not wanting
>> to give up the bone. I was too young to remember.
>>
>> I do remember getting into a horrid fight when my grandma was
>> babysitting me and she tried to force me to eat a drumstick because
>> that was the part that went to the children. I just would not eat
>> it. My dad walked in on the scene, asked what the problem was and
>> then took me out for a roast beef dinner. My grandma was livid.
>> But... I rather lived a Princessy existance as a child when the
>> finances allowed. Yes, we had lean times because my dad worked for
>> Boeing. And they were known to cut hours at times.
>
> I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like chicken. Why don't you like
> it?

Seriously? You think vegetarians like chicken? I don't like any kind of
meat. I was told that as a young child I did like it. But then at some
point I noticed that I didn't feel well after I ate meat even if it was a
small amount. Sits in my stomach like a dead weight. And while I know that
all meat comes from a dead animal, killing animals is not something I like
to think about. I do love animals.

My grandparents had a farm. I witnessed my grandma killing a chicken and
getting it ready to eat. Then in the 2nd grade, they served us chicken at
school. I had the piece of chicken in my hand and a boy asked me, "Do you
know what happens to that chicken to get on your plate?" And I replied,
"Yes, I do!" I then dropped the chicken, started crying and never wanted to
eat chicken again. I can't stand to see whole chickens or turkeys at the
store or anywhere else. To me, it is sad and I just think of dead birds. I
don't like to see dead fish or even the live fish or lobsters in tanks
because I know what their fate will be too.

I know I am not the only person who thinks like this. I know plenty of
people are repulsed to eat things with bones in them. Or who won't cook any
kind of meat or fish in their home. But they might be able to eat something
like casserole that has little bits of meat mixed into it. Because when
it's like that you are not blatantly reminded that you are eating a dead
animal.

There was a time when I could eat a steak. But I can't do it now. Not only
will I not digest it (nerve damage to stomach caused by diabetes) but I will
dislike chewing it.

I would happily live as a vegetarian and I did so for many years but... And
most likely this is because of my stomach issues and not being able to
digest the food properly, I will go anemic if I don't eat red meat once in a
while. I eat ground beef. I do seem to be able to digest it provided that
I eat only a small amount.

As for the taste, I do somewhat like the taste of beef. I don't really like
the taste of chicken or turkey and especially not most pork products. But I
do like bacon if it is lean and cooked very crisply.

Janet wrote:
> In article <4eb8e868-5fa4-40b1-8609-8b6daad1208d@
> 6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com>, says...
>
>> I can't imagine anyone who doesn't like chicken. Why don't you like
>> it?
>
>
> " Frankly I
> don't think I have ever even *eaten* a roast chicken. "
> !

It's just not something we ever had in our house with the exception of Rock
Cornish game hens and we only had those a few times. I think the only
person who liked them was my mom and I think she only liked them because she
thought they were fancy. I hated coming home to the smell of those baking.
That's when I'd get myself invited to a friend's house for dinner because
surely what they were having was better than those.

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
> I will just not
>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast
> chicken. ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house....
> Daughter and I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We
> don't
>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>
> Just listen to yourself.

So? Most people I know have things they won't eat. Even people who are not
techically picky eaters often have things they can't eat for various
reasons. Often it's a medical condition. And when a person I know opened a
Jimmy John's restaurant, the subject of sandwiches came up. She was asking
people to come to her new place when it opened and time and time again the
response was, well, I don't really like sandwiches, but I might stop by. So
I know I am not the only one who thinks this way. Sandwiches were just not
something we grew up eating often. And curry isn't a common food here in
the US. I know it is there. And in the area where I live, if you judge the
popular food based on how many restaurants there are, the most popular food
would probably be Mexican We love Mexican food and we do eat that a *lot*.
But my husband who grew up in an area where Mexican food was pretty uncommon
doesn't like it at all. He does like the hot sauce. But that's about it.

I have several British cookbooks and much of the recipes in there are for
things we just don't eat here. I have tried some of the recipes and
although edible, they were just not things we particularly liked because
they were so bland. Of course they were not all that way. Husband and I
loved the kidney bean rarebit. Not sure I ever served that to my daughter
but since she loves all that goes into it, she probably would.

I'd be willing to bet that I eat a lot of things that you might not like
eating. Like tons of raw veggies and having that be the bulk of the meal.
But that's the way I like to eat.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>> I will just not
>>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
>> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast
>> chicken. ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house....
>> Daughter and I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We
>> don't
>>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>>
>> Just listen to yourself.
>
> Kinda hard to keep track. I imagine this family
> is starving to death.

Nope. I just fried up a ton of Rissoles. Amazing how much food I got from
two pounds of ground beef, two slices of bread and a lot of veggies. Put
some in the fridge for eating this week and the rest in the freezer. Also
made some plain brown rice because I won't have time to cook it tomorrow.
And a pound of kidney beans that are so fresh that they cooked to perfection
in only 50 minutes.

Later this week we will try the sweet potato and whole wheat gnocchi. I
don't hold a lot of hope that we will like them and if we don't it's no
great loss. I'll toss them and cook some pasta to serve with the sauce that
I'll have ready to go.

The Other Guy wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 22:11:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> But the thing is... If you don't have an interest in cooking, you're
>> probably not going to do it.
>
> Many people have never been exposed to anything BUT fast food,
> even home-cooked fast food, so they have no idea what REAL
> home cooked food tastes like.

That's very true and in some cases when they do eat the real stuff, they
don't like it because the taste and/or texture is not what they're used to.

I know people who maybe don't eat a lot of fast food but when they *do* dine
out, they go only to chain restaurants and rave about the food. Places like
PF Chang's, Olive Garden, Red Lobster and Azteca. And I always wonder how
they can think that the food tastes good when to me it is obvious that it
came from a can or a box or came frozen. These are often the ones who don't
like to cook. Because the food they make at home doesn't have that taste or
texture.

I once had my parents over for dinner which is something I have rarely done
over the years given their assorted food issues. And I can't remember what
all I made that night but I cobbled together some little cheddar drop
biscuits at the last minute. My mom raved about them and said they were
even better than the ones at Red Lobster. I didn't even know that they had
them at Red Lobster having never been in there. But we did have a family
birthday there and were supposed to have another but then something came up
and that didn't happen. We couldn't make the first one because of
daughter's dance schedule so she and I grabbed something elsewhere on the
way to my parent's house. But just in case I did look at the website and
the pics I saw of the food there just screamed of premade frozen food. At
least some of them did. I can't actually speak for the lobster because
really, how could you mess up a lobster? Although I am no expert on this
having never actually cooked one.

Today we dined at one of our favorite Mexican places. I can't say that I
have just one but this one would be at the top of my list along with some
others. It is not necessarily your standard Americanized place although
certainly they do have some such things on the menu. Such as the crisp
tacos which come with the standard can buy in the grocery store shells. But
the tortillas are hand made. They don't make them there but the owner does
go and pick them up several times a week so they are very fresh and very
good. What we really love about the place is the big bold flavors that the
food has. Not necessarily spicy hot although if you ask for it that way
they will accomodate. They will also accomodate anything you want provided
they have the ingredients for it. The owner even told us today that he will
personally take my dad's favorite meal to him until he can get stronger and
well enough (hopefully) to venture out and get there in my van. He
remembers how we like our food!

But I know some other people who dislike this place and prefer Azteca
because they say that they don't like the seasionings of the food. And I'm
like... But they're real Mexican seasonings! That's how Mexican food is
supposed to taste! To me the food at Azteca is really bland, including
their watery salsa. The only time I ever got any flavor out of anything I
ate there was when they oversalted the beans. And that wasn't a good thing.
They also offer you some gummy white rice that has some frozen vegetables in
it. And you never know what veggies you'll get. Once it was mixed. As in
your carrot dices, peas, corn, green and lima beans. Seriously! And no
seasoning whatever. I thought nobody could screw up white rice. Wrong!
The next time it was just peas and carrots.
>
> I was lucky, I grew up with one Grandmother at home,
> and she cooked VERY well, and was happy to teach me what to do.
>
> I eat 'fast food' maybe once a month, and cook the rest of
> the time. I do use some packaged foods, but usually 'tweak'
> them with spices and other things, so they're seldom the
> same twice in a row.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To reply by email, lose the Ks...

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>> I will just not
>>>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
>>> won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast
>>> chicken. ... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house....
>>> Daughter and I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We
>>> don't
>>>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>>>
>>> Just listen to yourself.
>>
>> So? Most people I know have things they won't eat.
>
> Mostly the trash you serve?

That's not very nice! I go out of my way to try to make things people like,
even if I don't personally like them. When I had roommates, their friends
would come over when I did the cooking. They would call and ask who was
cooking because they said they liked my food. I've made countless things
for potlucks and it always was all eaten. I've made hand painted
chocolates, cakes and cookies that sold at an auction for charity. A plate
of cookies sold for $50. My former coworkers loved my cookies so much that
for a couple of years after I moved away, I sent them a huge box of them.
But that got too costly. I've had people ask me to make things for them and
they paid me.

And in thinking over the things I have made in the past that didn't turn out
well, it really wasn't very much. A pecan fudge pie that wouldn't set up.
Even though I had made it before and it was perfect. A batch of fudge and
another of caramels that were too soft. No problem. We used them as sauce.
A soba noodle salad that didn't taste good. There were probably a few other
things that didn't work out so well but I can't remember offhand.

And over the years when I brought my lunch to work or took dinner to the
dance studio, people would comment on my food, sometimes ask me what it was
and say that it looked really good! I once took a hominy croquette to work.
Nobody knew what it was because even in those days croquettes were not a
commonly eaten food here any more. I think you could still get frozen
chicken ones at some stores but that was about it. And hominy is certainly
not commonly eaten here. My husband didn't like them but then he tends not
to like things that aren't meat. And there was no meat in there. I was a
vegetarian in those days.

If I like what I cook and it isn't junk food then how in the world could it
be called trash? My daughter isn't going to like everything I cook just as
I presume that you didn't like everything your mother made. Or maybe you
did. Maybe you're one of those people who will eat anything. But that to
me isn't necessarily a good thing because I tend to think that people like
that don't have a good palate. As in being unable to tell cheap chocolate
from good chocolate. And I certainly know a lot of people like that! Or
being unable to recreate a dish that they ate somewhere and basing it only
on sight, smell and taste. And I certainly can usually do that when I put
my mind to it.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 01:27:30 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:



>It's just not something we ever had in our house with the exception of Rock
>Cornish game hens and we only had those a few times. I think the only
>person who liked them was my mom and I think she only liked them because she
>thought they were fancy.

Well, they are sort of fancy and you can make a nice presentation with
them. But aside from that, I see no reason to buy them. a roasting
chicken is $1.19 a pound while the Cornish hens are $2.49.

I may buy them every year or tow just for something different, but I'd
just as well eat a chicken.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>
> Apparently Angela
>> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>
> Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
> tender and tasty.

Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in our
possesion. I have prepared it exactly how they say they do it at the
restaurants she likes (the ones who cook it from scratch that is) and she
still doesn't like it.
>
>> And oddly
>> enough, my husband also fears food poisoning when *I* cook things.
>
> What a surprise.

You just get nastier by the minute.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 01:27:30 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>It's just not something we ever had in our house with the exception of
>>Rock
>>Cornish game hens and we only had those a few times. I think the only
>>person who liked them was my mom and I think she only liked them because
>>she
>>thought they were fancy.
>
> Well, they are sort of fancy and you can make a nice presentation with
> them. But aside from that, I see no reason to buy them. a roasting
> chicken is $1.19 a pound while the Cornish hens are $2.49.

Who knows. She also had a fascination with mint jelly. Thankfully she got
over that before I was born but she mentions it frequently.
>
> I may buy them every year or tow just for something different, but I'd
> just as well eat a chicken.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Janet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> Gary wrote:
>> >>> Janet wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> In article >,
>> >>>> says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that
>> >>>>> daughter will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some
>> >>>>> cases I am pretty sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen
>> >>>>> chicken breast. But when I buy those, she won't eat them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why not buy a whole fresh raw chicken and roast it. Depending
>> >>>> on her tastes there are lots of ways to add flavour; a cut lemon
>> >>>> in the body cavity, or garlic slivers, or herbs rubbed over the
>> >>>> skin.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> After roast chicken dinner there's enough left for sandwiches or
>> >>>> some kind of chicken+ vegetable pie, curry, or pasta bake. The
>> >>>> carcase can then be simmered to make a wonderful stock for soup.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Far more economical than buying precooked chicken breasts.
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree with you, Janet. Start with a raw fresh chicken and go from
>> >>> there.
>> >>
>> >> That just makes no sense. She only likes the boneless, skinless
>> >> breast.
>> >
>> > So slice the breast and peel off the skin. DUH.
>>
>> Uh... No! I am intolerant to chicken and I don't need to get a skin
>> rash
>> from touching it.
>
> From touching cooked chicken?

Cooked chicken, raw chicken. Would it matter? Yeah. Chicken is chicken.
I am not saying that I would get a rash but I certainly could. I once won a
can of cat food at the grocery store through a game they were doing over the
summer. Our current cats were pretty new to us then and I was having
trouble finding a canned food that they would eat. And this wasn't a brand
that I would normally buy because they were eating premium, grainless dry
food. But I foolishly selected a can with egg in it. Mom cat wouldn't eat
it at all but baby took a few bites. Then not long after she licked my hand
and a rash sprang up. Now egg just happens to give me the most severe
reaction of all of my problem foods. But that doesn't mean that the other
things won't. Thankfully neither cat licks any more because they will only
eat tuna for their moist food and I am intolerant to that as well.
>
>> And then I would have to put the smelly skin in a biobag
>> that I have to pay for.
>
> That would be far to much to expect any mother to do for her only
> child who's a picky eater with multiple health problems. Heaven forfend
> that her needs should ever come first before your self-obsessed
> neuroses.

You use a lot of words that I don't understand and I have a pretty good
vocabulary. I think you are trying to establish yourself to be in some way
superior to me but you are coming off as pompous, patronizing and downright
bitchy. I'm getting quite sick of it.

What part of boneless, skinless chicken breasts do you not get? I don't
like skin. She doesn't like skin. If it had skin on it when it came into
our house, she won't eat it. So no point in me buying it at all.

If she didn't come first then I wouldn't be forking out all that money and
spending so much of my day taking her to dance classes and doing all of the
other things that I do for her on a daily basis. Which I am not going to
get into here because you or someone else would only find fault with that as
well.

On Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:19:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am going to try Rissoles this coming week. Since daughter loves meatloaf,
>
> she might like these. And unless someone tells me otherwise why this would
>
> not work, I plan to make tiny ones like slider sized. I am not using an
>
> actual recipe but sort of a compilation of stuff that I saw on the Internet.
>
> Ground beef, (have two pounds out warming to room temp.), one onion, red and
>
> green bell pepper, carrot, zucchini, summer squash, parsley, oregano,
>
> garlic, salt, pepper, ketchup and mustard. I do have more beef if it looks
>
> like they will need it. Because I love veggies so much I tend to put too
>
> many in and although we still like the end result, it won't taste much like
>
> meat. I have only whole wheat and sweet rice flour. Intend to use the
>
> sweet rice flour to dust with, again unless someone tells me otherwise. It
>
> just seems like the whole wheat flour might have the wrong texture. I am
>
> not adding any starchy fillers to the mix nor am I adding egg, which is
>
> another reason why I am going to keep them tiny. I figure they might hold
>
> together better.
>
>
>
> I kept the trimmings and put them in a bag in the freezer for stock.
>
>
>
> I also froze the remains of a loaf of bread so I can make a cheese strata
>
> when my husband comes home. Am also going to see if I can find a breakfast
>
> casserole that doesn't use meat. I used to make that a lot and used sausage
>
> but with the gout thing I am trying to cut back on the meat I serve when he
>
> is home. Daughter and I liked the South Beach stuffing the first couple of
>
> times that I made it but we quickly grew sick of it and husband didn't like
>
> it at all. Not sure what all else I can use bread for. We don't eat bread
>
> pudding and we're not into croutons.
>
>
>
> Got the freezer stocked with some veggies from Target. Daughter was not
>
> pleased with some of my choices but I told her that we needed to expand our
>
> veggie horizons. Will also cook up a pound of dried beans.
>
>
>
> I plan to make the whole wheat and sweet potato gnocchi. Daughter turned up
>
> her nose at it but I told her that she will have to try eating one. I am
>
> not so sure I will like them. Even though I like the concept of gnocchi, I
>
> have never had any that I liked. Granted I only tried the dried ones twice
>
> and got them at a restaurant in Reno but the seemed just like the dried
>
> ones. And my in-laws have told me those are not so good. Yes, these that I
>
> have are dried ones too. Well if we don't like them, it's no great loss.
>
> They didn't cost much. And I can always cook a little pasta rather quickly
>
> if we don't.
>
>
>
> Now I just have to continue my quest for some kind of chicken that daughter
>
> will eat. She will eat it at a restaurant and in some cases I am pretty
>
> sure they are just heating up a precooked frozen chicken breast. But when I
>
> buy those, she won't eat them.

Purina has some good cheap dishes. MEow

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:21:56 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>
>> I will just not
>>> cook a whole bird or even usually things with bones in it. daughter
>>won't eat things with bones... nobody in this house eats roast chicken.
>>... Nobody would eat a chicken sandwich in this house.... Daughter and
>>I don't like sandwiches.. We don't eat curry.... We don't
>>> eat pie.... She won't eat soup ...
>>
>> Just listen to yourself.
>
> I've somehow managed not to comment in the past... sure hasn't been
> easy... not sure for how much longer I can maintain that though!

You know what, Jeßus, to each his or her own! Why keep knocking someone for
their tastes and preferences? We don't have to pay for it! I doubt
everyone likes the same things we do!

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> What part of boneless, skinless chicken breasts do you not get? I don't
> like skin. She doesn't like skin. If it had skin on it when it came into
> our house, she won't eat it. So no point in me buying it at all.

Wow. Julie....you need to educate your beloved daughter that all chicken
starts out with skin on it, whether or not she sees it on there. WTH? And
bones attached to the meat too...gasp!

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 06:28:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Cooked chicken, raw chicken. Would it matter? Yeah. Chicken is chicken.
>I am not saying that I would get a rash but I certainly could. I once won a
>can of cat food at the grocery store through a game they were doing over the
>summer. Our current cats were pretty new to us then and I was having
>trouble finding a canned food that they would eat.

Good Gawd, even her *cats* are picky!

Doris

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What part of boneless, skinless chicken breasts do you not get? I don't
>> like skin. She doesn't like skin. If it had skin on it when it came
>> into
>> our house, she won't eat it. So no point in me buying it at all.
>
> Wow. Julie....you need to educate your beloved daughter that all chicken
> starts out with skin on it, whether or not she sees it on there. WTH?
> And
> bones attached to the meat too...gasp!

Hey, the kid is a teenager! Remember those? I reckon Julie is very patient
with her

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"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >
>> > Apparently Angela
>> >> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>> >
>> > Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>> > tender and tasty.
>>
>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>> our
>> possesion.
>
> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
> follow the ideas you asked for.
>
> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.

Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going to
taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking; I have had chicken
with the skin and without. I especially do *NOT* like the kind that has
been cooked with the skin on because of the texture of the stuff. It is not
a texture that I like at all.

The chicken that she really likes is boneless and skinless from the start.
They are large flat pieces. Now maybe, just maybe they pound it flat at the
restaurant. This is something I didn't ask. I bought thin cut chicken
pieces and maybe that was my problem. I don't know. One restaurant said
they marinate it in lemon juice and olive oil before cooking. The other
just uses salt and pepper. No herbs. No sauce. And they are not roasted
but grilled. I also do not have a grill and perhaps that too is why it is
not coming out right. But I also am not going to buy a grill. I cook the
chicken in a skillet. I am not very much into oven cooking and I sure
wouldn't do it for meat like that. I can only imagine the sort of mess a
roasted chicken would make.

And you are chastising me for being wasteful. Yet you are telling me to buy
a whole chicken and serve her the breasts. Now that would be wasteful.
Because nobody in this house would eat the other parts of the chicken. No
matter what recipes or suggestions you have.

Now here's what I'm going to tell you! Buy canned chicken. Buy lots of it!
Daughter likes canned chicken. If she likes it, she must be right. And if
she must be right then that must be the only way to do it. Any other way
will be wrong. Dead wrong. Been roasting your chicken? You're wrong.
You're a whole bunch of big, silly sounding words that are not commonly used
but still insulting. What? You think not! You're wrong! Because I said
so. Canned chicken is the only way to go. The ONLY way! And anyone who
thinks otherwise is just wrong because I said so. I'm sure people on this
newsgroup will back me up on this because I have seen posts about canned
chicken here.

Do you see how stupid this sounds? You eat your chicken (or anything else)
the way *you* want. But don't try to *force* me to do it your way cuz it
ain't gonna happen!

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:48:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > In article >, says...
>>> >
>>> > Apparently Angela
>>> >> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>> >
>>> > Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>> > tender and tasty.
>>>
>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>>> our
>>> possesion.
>>
>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>
>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.
>
>Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
>way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going to
>taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
>boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking; I have had chicken
>with the skin and without. I especially do *NOT* like the kind that has
>been cooked with the skin on because of the texture of the stuff. It is not
>a texture that I like at all.
>
>The chicken that she really likes is boneless and skinless from the start.
>They are large flat pieces. Now maybe, just maybe they pound it flat at the
>restaurant. This is something I didn't ask. I bought thin cut chicken
>pieces and maybe that was my problem. I don't know. One restaurant said
>they marinate it in lemon juice and olive oil before cooking. The other
>just uses salt and pepper. No herbs. No sauce. And they are not roasted
>but grilled. I also do not have a grill and perhaps that too is why it is
>not coming out right. But I also am not going to buy a grill. I cook the
>chicken in a skillet. I am not very much into oven cooking and I sure
>wouldn't do it for meat like that. I can only imagine the sort of mess a
>roasted chicken would make.
>
>And you are chastising me for being wasteful. Yet you are telling me to buy
>a whole chicken and serve her the breasts. Now that would be wasteful.
>Because nobody in this house would eat the other parts of the chicken. No
>matter what recipes or suggestions you have.
>
>Now here's what I'm going to tell you! Buy canned chicken. Buy lots of it!
>Daughter likes canned chicken. If she likes it, she must be right. And if
>she must be right then that must be the only way to do it. Any other way
>will be wrong. Dead wrong. Been roasting your chicken? You're wrong.
>You're a whole bunch of big, silly sounding words that are not commonly used
>but still insulting. What? You think not! You're wrong! Because I said
>so. Canned chicken is the only way to go. The ONLY way! And anyone who
>thinks otherwise is just wrong because I said so. I'm sure people on this
>newsgroup will back me up on this because I have seen posts about canned
>chicken here.
>
>Do you see how stupid this sounds? You eat your chicken (or anything else)
>the way *you* want. But don't try to *force* me to do it your way cuz it
>ain't gonna happen!


She's got to be on crack. There's no other explanation. This is about
the 3rd time today I've read a long rant like this from her.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
>>>
> She's got to be on crack. There's no other explanation. This is about
> the 3rd time today I've read a long rant like this from her.

And people on crack write long rants? Hmmm... Seeing as how I don't know
any people on crack, I did not know this. I am just getting really sick of
this person insisting on me doing things here way.

On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going to
> taste the way*she* wants it because*she* only likes the kind that is
> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking; I have had chicken
> with the skin and without. I especially do*NOT* like the kind that has
> been cooked with the skin on because of the texture of the stuff. It is not
> a texture that I like at all.

You are allergic. Or intolerant. Or something.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
>> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going
>> to
>> taste the way*she* wants it because*she* only likes the kind that is
>> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking; I have had chicken
>> with the skin and without. I especially do*NOT* like the kind that has
>> been cooked with the skin on because of the texture of the stuff. It is
>> not
>> a texture that I like at all.
>
> You are allergic. Or intolerant. Or something.

I am intolerant to chicken. Yes.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:48:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > In article >,
>>>> > says...
>>>> >
>>>> > Apparently Angela
>>>> >> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>>> > tender and tasty.
>>>>
>>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>>>> our
>>>> possesion.
>>>
>>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>>
>>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.
>>
>>Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
>>way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going
>>to
>>taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
>>boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking; I have had chicken
>>with the skin and without. I especially do *NOT* like the kind that has
>>been cooked with the skin on because of the texture of the stuff. It is
>>not
>>a texture that I like at all.
>>
>>The chicken that she really likes is boneless and skinless from the start.
>>They are large flat pieces. Now maybe, just maybe they pound it flat at
>>the
>>restaurant. This is something I didn't ask. I bought thin cut chicken
>>pieces and maybe that was my problem. I don't know. One restaurant said
>>they marinate it in lemon juice and olive oil before cooking. The other
>>just uses salt and pepper. No herbs. No sauce. And they are not roasted
>>but grilled. I also do not have a grill and perhaps that too is why it is
>>not coming out right. But I also am not going to buy a grill. I cook the
>>chicken in a skillet. I am not very much into oven cooking and I sure
>>wouldn't do it for meat like that. I can only imagine the sort of mess a
>>roasted chicken would make.
>>
>>And you are chastising me for being wasteful. Yet you are telling me to
>>buy
>>a whole chicken and serve her the breasts. Now that would be wasteful.
>>Because nobody in this house would eat the other parts of the chicken. No
>>matter what recipes or suggestions you have.
>>
>>Now here's what I'm going to tell you! Buy canned chicken. Buy lots of
>>it!
>>Daughter likes canned chicken. If she likes it, she must be right. And
>>if
>>she must be right then that must be the only way to do it. Any other way
>>will be wrong. Dead wrong. Been roasting your chicken? You're wrong.
>>You're a whole bunch of big, silly sounding words that are not commonly
>>used
>>but still insulting. What? You think not! You're wrong! Because I said
>>so. Canned chicken is the only way to go. The ONLY way! And anyone who
>>thinks otherwise is just wrong because I said so. I'm sure people on this
>>newsgroup will back me up on this because I have seen posts about canned
>>chicken here.
>>
>>Do you see how stupid this sounds? You eat your chicken (or anything
>>else)
>>the way *you* want. But don't try to *force* me to do it your way cuz it
>>ain't gonna happen!
>
>
> She's got to be on crack. There's no other explanation. This is about
> the 3rd time today I've read a long rant like this from her.

I didn't realise you were being forced to read everything Julie writes, or
even anything come to that.

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On Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:16:12 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > In article >, says...
>
> >
>
> > Apparently Angela
>
> >> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>
> >
>
> > Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>
> > tender and tasty.
>
>
>
> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>
> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in our
>
> possesion. I have prepared it exactly how they say they do it at the
>
> restaurants she likes (the ones who cook it from scratch that is) and she
>
> still doesn't like it.
>
> >
>
> >> And oddly
>
> >> enough, my husband also fears food poisoning when *I* cook things.
>
> >
>
> > What a surprise.
>
>
>
> You just get nastier by the minute.

I mean, really, RFC is such a limited audience. I should think you'd like to spin your tales about your defective mother, your defective father, your complete mess of a daughter, and yourself to other folks like you in the viewing audience. The sad thing is, however repulsive your daughter is, they'll be some loser willing to copulate with her, and she'll add more pollution to the gene pool. That nasty enough for you? You know that I'm not the only one here who thinks that, right? I'm just the only one mean enough to write it.

--Bryan

On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> Apparently Angela
>>>>> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>>> tender and tasty.
>>>
>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>>> our
>>> possesion.
>>
>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>
>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.
>
> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going to
> taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking
(snip)

She *does* know that skinless boneless breast was once part of an actual
chicken with skin and bones, doesn't she?!

So buy boneless skinless breasts. You don't have to buy a big honkin'
bag of frozen ones. Get a small package of raw chicken breasts. Try
different marinades and seasonings, etc. It's not rocket science. Most
restaurants aren't going to tell you how to cook what they're selling.

Elsewhere you mentioned your refined palate and being able to replicate
many things you've had when eating out. If that's the case boneless
skinless chicken breasts shouldn't be a problem.

I could give you a slew of recipes for chicken breasts cooked on the
stove-top but I know you'd find some reason not to try any of them.

Jill

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:05:27 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently Angela
>>>>>> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>>>> tender and tasty.
>>>>
>>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>>>> our
>>>> possesion.
>>>
>>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>>
>>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.
>>
>> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
>> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going to
>> taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
>> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking
>(snip)
>
>She *does* know that skinless boneless breast was once part of an actual
>chicken with skin and bones, doesn't she?!
>
>So buy boneless skinless breasts. You don't have to buy a big honkin'
>bag of frozen ones. Get a small package of raw chicken breasts. Try
>different marinades and seasonings, etc. It's not rocket science. Most
>restaurants aren't going to tell you how to cook what they're selling.
>
>Elsewhere you mentioned your refined palate and being able to replicate
>many things you've had when eating out. If that's the case boneless
>skinless chicken breasts shouldn't be a problem.
>
>I could give you a slew of recipes for chicken breasts cooked on the
>stove-top but I know you'd find some reason not to try any of them.
>
>Jill

There's Chicken Piccata, but I'm sure the fumes or oils will make
someone sick, no wait, it will be too juicy.
Janet US

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently Angela
>>>>>> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>>>> tender and tasty.
>>>>
>>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while in
>>>> our
>>>> possesion.
>>>
>>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>>
>>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times better.
>>
>> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken any
>> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't going
>> to
>> taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
>> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking
> (snip)
>
> She *does* know that skinless boneless breast was once part of an actual
> chicken with skin and bones, doesn't she?!

Yes. And so do I.
>
> So buy boneless skinless breasts. You don't have to buy a big honkin' bag
> of frozen ones. Get a small package of raw chicken breasts. Try
> different marinades and seasonings, etc. It's not rocket science. Most
> restaurants aren't going to tell you how to cook what they're selling.

I've done that.
>
> Elsewhere you mentioned your refined palate and being able to replicate
> many things you've had when eating out. If that's the case boneless
> skinless chicken breasts shouldn't be a problem.

But I don't eat chicken so how could I possibly do it with that? I could
only do it with something I've actually eaten.
>
> I could give you a slew of recipes for chicken breasts cooked on the
> stove-top but I know you'd find some reason not to try any of them.

And I've tried a slew of them. People told me here or maybe it was on the
diabetes newsgroup that I was massively overcooking the chicken. I did it
just like they said and she said it was still tough and dry. But she also
says the same for an pre-cooked chicken that I buy and in some cases, the
chicken she just raves about is indeed precooked. My mom says she's just
saying what she says because that's what teens do. She does eat the chicken
that I make, despite all the complaints.

At least she not only liked the Rissoles but loved them. I can't say the
same. I seemed to love the first bite but beyond that, no. I think my
mistake was in grating some of the veggies. Made for a too soft texture.
But the taste was fine.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:05:27 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 1/6/2013 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently Angela
>>>>>>> objects to my chicken because she says it is tough and dry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet you refuse to cook it for her the way that makes it succulent
>>>>>> tender and tasty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... She wouldn't EAT it if I cooked it your way. She won't have
>>>>> anything to do with chicken that had bones in it or skin on it while
>>>>> in
>>>>> our
>>>>> possesion.
>>>>
>>>> Is there no end to the excuses? You ASKED for ways to cook chicken,
>>>> remember? Now (as usual) you're sicking up ridiculous excuses not to
>>>> follow the ideas you asked for.
>>>>
>>>> YOU COULD : Wear gloves, buy and roast the chicken while she's at
>>>> school, skin and carve the cooked breasts before she gets home.. and on
>>>> her plate it will look exactly like the skinless boneless chicken
>>>> breasts you say she's perfectly happy to eat. But taste 10 times
>>>> better.
>>>
>>> Good GAWD! What is wrong with you!? I don't want to roast a chicken
>>> any
>>> way, shape or forum. Not today. Not tomorrow, not ever. It isn't
>>> going to
>>> taste the way *she* wants it because *she* only likes the kind that is
>>> boneless and skinless from that start of the cooking
>>(snip)
>>
>>She *does* know that skinless boneless breast was once part of an actual
>>chicken with skin and bones, doesn't she?!
>>
>>So buy boneless skinless breasts. You don't have to buy a big honkin'
>>bag of frozen ones. Get a small package of raw chicken breasts. Try
>>different marinades and seasonings, etc. It's not rocket science. Most
>>restaurants aren't going to tell you how to cook what they're selling.
>>
>>Elsewhere you mentioned your refined palate and being able to replicate
>>many things you've had when eating out. If that's the case boneless
>>skinless chicken breasts shouldn't be a problem.
>>
>>I could give you a slew of recipes for chicken breasts cooked on the
>>stove-top but I know you'd find some reason not to try any of them.
>>
>>Jill
>
> There's Chicken Piccata, but I'm sure the fumes or oils will make
> someone sick, no wait, it will be too juicy.
> Janet US

That's not plain chicken. It has a flour coating on it.