"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:22:04 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
> wrote:
>
>> Saltine crackers are for chinese food and soup. I use no salt, saltine
>> crackers.
>
> What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
> fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
> sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
> Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!

Sounds like what my mom made when I was a kid. Loved it...and the crackers.

Cheri

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> Julie Bove:
>
>>So you're saying that a food that is all
>> sugar and chemicals or just all
>> chemicals is not bad for you? How so?
>
> Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
> far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
> meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
> air we breath.
>
> After reading your posts in here, Julia, it sounds to me like you have
> one of the weirdest diets of all, and have some of the strangest
> "hang-ups" about food.
>

Why are you calling me Julia? I don't go by that. And I am certainly not
on a weird diet but a healthy one. For dinner tonight we had the Rissoles,
brown rice and kidney beans. What's weird about those foods? Except that
Americans don't usually eat Rissoles, but I like trying foreign foods.
Granted the seasonings don't always appeal to me but I do try them.

And yes there are chemicals in all sorts of food but that doesn't mean they
are healthy. I drink diet soda. Boat loads of it. I also smoked for 27
years. But you'd never hear me saying that either one of these things is a
good thing to do!
>
>>I seem to recall you feeding your
>> grandkids funnel cakes for breakfast. My
>> mom never did that but I would freak if
>> she did. IMO another food that's not
>> good for you.
>
> Do you ever make pancakes, or waffles? Funnel cakes are basically the
> same thing, only in a spiral shape. Have you ever "sinned" and eaten a
> doughnut for breakfast, so why in the heck would you "freak out"?
> Sheesh!

Very, very rarely pancakes. Either buckwheat or whole wheat. Never
waffles. I did have a waffle iron at some point but it never worked right.
Daughter buys whole wheat waffles that are frozen. A box lasts us about a
year. That's how infrequently she eats these things.

I would not eat a donut for breakfast because eating a whole donut would and
has made me sick in a variety of ways. And as a diabetic, that would just
be stupid! But if you're not a diabetic you might not know this. As I said
here, we did buy three vegan donuts around Christmas from Whole foods.
Vegan because I can't have eggs or dairy which are almost always in regular
donuts. Daughter and I each cut a small bite from them, at the bites and
put the rest in the freezer. Where they still are.

I have not sinned. In fact I don't believe in sin. I don't believe in
religion. So therefore I can not sin.

I was forced to eat donuts for breakfast as a kid pretty much every Sunday
and on holidays. They made me feel sick. Very sick. I didn't want to eat
them. And as an adult I have very rarely eaten donuts. Because I don't to
feel sick. And then I would screw up and do it again a few years later.
And vow not to do it again. The vegan ones will not make me sick. Raise my
blood sugar? Yes. And I know they are not good nutrition. Which is why I
factored those three bites into the carb count at my meal. I ate that small
amount with my meal. Not as a meal.

And when Angela was little there was no way that I ever gave her pancakes,
donuts or waffles as a meal. These days sometimes she does get buckwheat
pancakes and sugar free syrup at a restaurant. But she must either eat some
form of protein while there or eat a piece of cheese as soon as we get home.
She must also eat a salad. And if she does not eat fruit in the restaurant,
she must eat it when we get home. She also does not eat all of the
pancakes.

I do not think a funnel cake is the same as pancakes or waffles. Aren't
funnel cakes deep dried? The only ones I am familiar with are deep fried.
But then they are not a common food in this area. People here usually try
to eat healthy foods. And pancakes and waffles can be made in a healthy
way. Perhaps pancakes more easily than waffles because experience has
taught me that you need a lot of oil to keep the waffle from sticking. But
I could be wrong. Not being a waffle lover, I didn't try very hard. Back
when I did make pancakes quite a bit (long prior to diabetes) I made them
with applesauce in place of the oil and egg. I made them with whole wheat,
oats, even corn. Not your typical pancakes but healthy. You also don't
need to eat them with syrup. Lots of the restaurants here serve them with a
fruit and nut topping. And fresh fruit. Not sweetened.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:29:11 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:22:04 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Saltine crackers are for chinese food and soup. I use no salt,
>> >> saltine crackers.
>> >
>> > What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
>> > fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
>> > sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
>> > Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
>>
>> With chili? I have never eaten crackers with chili.
>
> Obviously, your mother was a worse cook than mine was. Saltines with
> the chili stated above are mandatory.

My mom never made chili. We had canned but never with crackers. Crackers
were only with soup or when we were sick. Or when guests came and we had
cheese and crackers. But then they were never Saltines. They were the
more expensive ones.
>
>> Although I suppose
>> they do give them to you in restaurants.
>
> In restaurants? You *have* to be kidding! What restaurant serves
> something like that???

Well every time I have ordered chili it came with a packet or two of
crackers.
>
>> I don't usually eat anything else
>> with my chili. But if I were going to eat something on the side it would
>> be
>> cornbread. Or corn chips.
>>
> Corn bread is good, but corn chips are in the same league as saltine
> crackers.

Eh. I think corn chips taste better.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:37:02 -0800, Bob Terwilliger
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> >>> Jello Shots!
>> >>
>> >> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
>> >> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard
>> >> to
>> >> believe I'd never had jello shots before
>> >>
>> >> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
>> >
>> > I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
>> > because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
>>
>> I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place
>> I lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a
>> generational thing.
>>
> Okay, I'll roll with the generational idea... what generation are we
> going with? I don't remember my kids talking about jello shots.

My SIL is in her late 30's and she offered me one at a party.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:40:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>> > sf wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> Jello Shots!
>> >>>
>> >>> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
>> >>> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard
>> >>> to
>> >>> believe I'd never had jello shots before
>> >>>
>> >>> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
>> >>
>> >> I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
>> >> because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
>> >
>> > I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place
>> > I
>> > lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a
>> > generational
>> > thing.
>>
>> Yeah. The people who are into them are all younger than me.
>>
> If that's true, why do people here.... people I know are "old" bring
> up the subject?

Maybe because like me, they were offered to them at a family party? I also
know about them from a group I belong to that has people in a variety of
ages in it. Some of them got together at a hotel in some other state and
they talked about how they were going to make the Jell-O shots. They
planned it all in advance and even got a place with some sort of kitchen or
microwave or fridge or whatever it is you need to make them. And they
talked about how they were going to mold them. Then they took pics and
posted them as they were making them and consuming them. So after that I
Googled it. Not for me.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Judy Haffner wrote:
>> > Kalmia wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hate it. A real junk food in my book.
>> >> Haven't touched it in 50 years. Prob.
>> >> should be banned.
>> >
>> > HUH?! what is the basis for your feelings that it is junk food and
>> > should be banned? You're the first person I've ever heard say they
>> > hated it, and I've been around for 72 years, so am curious about your
>> > line of thinking? Strange that...but everyone is different. <shrug>
>>
>> And I don't know *anyone* who likes the stuff. If it was so good you'd
>> still be seeing it in restaurants, wouldn't you? It was commonly seen in
>> dessert cases when I was a kid. It's not any more.
>>
> We see fancy jello, like panna cotta, in restaurants.
> http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2009/04...t-panna-cotta/
>
>

Where is the Jell-O in that? Calls for powdered gelatin. Not the same
thing.

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:36:43 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
>>far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
>>meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
>>air we breath.
>
> Just because they are there doesn't mean they are good for us.
>
> There are quite a few folks here who are trying to avoid chemicals in
> what we eat. Commercial meat doesn't have to be like that, neither
> does milk, or anything else we put into our mouths. We can do better
> than ingesting all sorts of chemicals added to our food, our water
> supply, and certainly we don't need polluted air. Meat without
> chemicals, antibiotics, and the like IS available commercially.
> Organic milk and milk without antibiotics and such is available. So
> are vegetables, and the like. I would prefer all of the food supply
> to be like this, so I don't have to worry about what I am putting
> into my body.
>
> Right now I wish I could afford to buy some of these. When I do back
> to work, I will do my best to eat more organically. As it is now, I
> am trying to eat "real" food as much as I can. It is healthier, and
> tastes better.

I am really torn on the organic stuff. For years that was all that I would
buy and not only is it readily available here but even places like Costco
sell it now. So it's not always more expensive. But recent reports have
said that despite the growers/farmers not adding chemicals, those chemicals
can leech into the food through the soil. So you might still be getting
some chemicals in your organic food.

I still do buy organic meats most of the time. And I buy organic produce
when I can. But I love bell peppers and not only are the organic peppers
insanely expensive but usually rotten looking. I did try to grow peppers
but we have such a short growing season here, the only thing I got at the
end of the season was one tiny green bell and one jalapeno. I think that
was also the year that something kept eating thing from my garden. First it
was what I assumed to be slugs or snails, eating the whole plant during the
night. Then after several replanting, some other animal was taking bites
out of things.

When it comes to buying things like bread... Yes I can get all sorts of it
for cheap but many of those loaves are loaded with things that I don't want.
So I buy the honey whole wheat made from a local bakery. It's excellent
stuff and if I can manage to get it at Costco, it's less expensive.

I think the people who are complaining about chemicals in their meat are
buying meat at places like Wal-Mart and Aldi. But I don't want to falsely
convict Aldi since I haven't been there in many years. I did once make the
mistake of buying ground beef at Wal-Mart. Frozen chub. Horrible stuff!
Inedible. That was before I knew of pink slime which I am now sure that it
was. Never again. Which is why I have good beef now that I am going to
cook up for the freezer. So I won't have to stop at a store late at night
and buy something inferior.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:17:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Judy Haffner wrote:
> >> > Kalmia wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hate it. A real junk food in my book.
> >> >> Haven't touched it in 50 years. Prob.
> >> >> should be banned.
> >> >
> >> > HUH?! what is the basis for your feelings that it is junk food and
> >> > should be banned? You're the first person I've ever heard say they
> >> > hated it, and I've been around for 72 years, so am curious about your
> >> > line of thinking? Strange that...but everyone is different. <shrug>
> >>
> >> And I don't know *anyone* who likes the stuff. If it was so good you'd
> >> still be seeing it in restaurants, wouldn't you? It was commonly seen in
> >> dessert cases when I was a kid. It's not any more.
> >>
> > We see fancy jello, like panna cotta, in restaurants.
> > http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2009/04...t-panna-cotta/
> >
> >
>
> Where is the Jell-O in that? Calls for powdered gelatin. Not the same
> thing.
>

Julie- expand your horizons.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:15:02 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:40:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
> >> .com...
> >> > sf wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>> Jello Shots!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
> >> >>> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> believe I'd never had jello shots before
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
> >> >>
> >> >> I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
> >> >> because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
> >> >
> >> > I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place
> >> > I
> >> > lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a
> >> > generational
> >> > thing.
> >>
> >> Yeah. The people who are into them are all younger than me.
> >>
> > If that's true, why do people here.... people I know are "old" bring
> > up the subject?
>
> Maybe because like me, they were offered to them at a family party? I also
> know about them from a group I belong to that has people in a variety of
> ages in it. Some of them got together at a hotel in some other state and
> they talked about how they were going to make the Jell-O shots. They
> planned it all in advance and even got a place with some sort of kitchen or
> microwave or fridge or whatever it is you need to make them. And they
> talked about how they were going to mold them. Then they took pics and
> posted them as they were making them and consuming them. So after that I
> Googled it. Not for me.
>
I go to family parties that are multi generational and some of the
generations span the time between my personal family's generations.
Considering the number of young people over 21, there's no way I would
have missed it if it was something people around here do!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:11:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:37:02 -0800, Bob Terwilliger
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> Jello Shots!
> >> >>
> >> >> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
> >> >> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard
> >> >> to
> >> >> believe I'd never had jello shots before
> >> >>
> >> >> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
> >> >
> >> > I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
> >> > because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
> >>
> >> I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place
> >> I lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a
> >> generational thing.
> >>
> > Okay, I'll roll with the generational idea... what generation are we
> > going with? I don't remember my kids talking about jello shots.
>
> My SIL is in her late 30's and she offered me one at a party.
>

Interesting. Both my kids are in their 30's, they are married to
people in their 30's.... and nobody, has ever mentioned jello shots -
ever.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:17:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Judy Haffner wrote:
>> >> > Kalmia wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hate it. A real junk food in my book.
>> >> >> Haven't touched it in 50 years. Prob.
>> >> >> should be banned.
>> >> >
>> >> > HUH?! what is the basis for your feelings that it is junk food and
>> >> > should be banned? You're the first person I've ever heard say they
>> >> > hated it, and I've been around for 72 years, so am curious about
>> >> > your
>> >> > line of thinking? Strange that...but everyone is different. <shrug>
>> >>
>> >> And I don't know *anyone* who likes the stuff. If it was so good
>> >> you'd
>> >> still be seeing it in restaurants, wouldn't you? It was commonly seen
>> >> in
>> >> dessert cases when I was a kid. It's not any more.
>> >>
>> > We see fancy jello, like panna cotta, in restaurants.
>> > http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2009/04...t-panna-cotta/
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Where is the Jell-O in that? Calls for powdered gelatin. Not the same
>> thing.
>>
>
> Julie- expand your horizons.

But it's *not* the same thing. I posted here before that I have made
Applets and other things that use gelatin. Gelatin is plain and not the
same thing as artificially colored and flavored Jell-O.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:15:02 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:40:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
>> >> .com...
>> >> > sf wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>>> Jello Shots!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
>> >> >>> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's
>> >> >>> hard
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> believe I'd never had jello shots before
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
>> >> >> because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every
>> >> > place
>> >> > I
>> >> > lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a
>> >> > generational
>> >> > thing.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah. The people who are into them are all younger than me.
>> >>
>> > If that's true, why do people here.... people I know are "old" bring
>> > up the subject?
>>
>> Maybe because like me, they were offered to them at a family party? I
>> also
>> know about them from a group I belong to that has people in a variety of
>> ages in it. Some of them got together at a hotel in some other state and
>> they talked about how they were going to make the Jell-O shots. They
>> planned it all in advance and even got a place with some sort of kitchen
>> or
>> microwave or fridge or whatever it is you need to make them. And they
>> talked about how they were going to mold them. Then they took pics and
>> posted them as they were making them and consuming them. So after that I
>> Googled it. Not for me.
>>
> I go to family parties that are multi generational and some of the
> generations span the time between my personal family's generations.
> Considering the number of young people over 21, there's no way I would
> have missed it if it was something people around here do!

Well, *my* side of the family doesn't drink. Not much anyway. But this
wasn't my side of the family.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:57:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> But it's *not* the same thing. I posted here before that I have made
> Applets and other things that use gelatin. Gelatin is plain and not the
> same thing as artificially colored and flavored Jell-O.

Using my panna cotta standard, I can also call dsl's almond flavored
dessert "jello".

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:59:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> > He's only one of many. Didn't you notice what happened just today (or
> > was it yesterday?) when Pandora posted her ravioli from the RFC on FB
> > cook-along?
> >
> No I didn't see that. Was it posted here? Or on FB. I'm not on FB. Not
> this group anyway. I get enough grief here.
>
She posted it here earlier today and Sheldon raked her over the coals.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:59:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> > He's only one of many. Didn't you notice what happened just today (or
>> > was it yesterday?) when Pandora posted her ravioli from the RFC on FB
>> > cook-along?
>> >
>> No I didn't see that. Was it posted here? Or on FB. I'm not on FB.
>> Not
>> this group anyway. I get enough grief here.
>>
> She posted it here earlier today and Sheldon raked her over the coals.

Oh dear. I generally don't post recipes here but once in a while I will if
something didn't come out right. And apparently we're not supposed to do
that either!

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:38:01 -0800, sf > wrote:



>> > What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
>> > fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
>> > sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
>> > Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
>>
>> With chili? I have never eaten crackers with chili.
>
>Obviously, your mother was a worse cook than mine was. Saltines with
>the chili stated above are mandatory.
>
>> Although I suppose
>> they do give them to you in restaurants.
>
>In restaurants? You *have* to be kidding! What restaurant serves
>something like that???

Wendy's for one, but I don't buy their chili. Many give you saltines
with soup.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:49:23 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back many
>generations, and always satisfying for just the "right sweetness" to
>satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say, "there is always room
>for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and filling, particularly following
>a meal, but Jell-O always seems to go down easy. I'm talking about the
>gelatin powder and not the Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>
>Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you best
>like in it, or prefer it plain?
>
>My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit flavors, such
>as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in it, served with just a
>dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad liked it with only sliced
>bananas, but I like it just plain even, and also enjoy a good Jell-O
>salad too.
>
>Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use them for
>various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake recipe I have and
>use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes. I have used it in cookies
>and cupcakes too, and use to make Jigglers for the kids, when they were
>younger.
>
>Judy

I wont touch the stuff. Jello is made from horse hooves. Not only have
these hooves been walking around in manuare all their lives, but the
horses are killed to get the Jello. As a horse owner, I am sickened by
the thought of killing them for human consumption. I have not eaten
this junk since I learned what it was made from in the 1970s. Just the
sight of it makes me ill.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:49:23 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back many
>>generations, and always satisfying for just the "right sweetness" to
>>satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say, "there is always room
>>for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and filling, particularly following
>>a meal, but Jell-O always seems to go down easy. I'm talking about the
>>gelatin powder and not the Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>>
>>Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you best
>>like in it, or prefer it plain?
>>
>>My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit flavors, such
>>as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in it, served with just a
>>dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad liked it with only sliced
>>bananas, but I like it just plain even, and also enjoy a good Jell-O
>>salad too.
>>
>>Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use them for
>>various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake recipe I have and
>>use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes. I have used it in cookies
>>and cupcakes too, and use to make Jigglers for the kids, when they were
>>younger.
>>
>>Judy
>
> I wont touch the stuff. Jello is made from horse hooves. Not only have
> these hooves been walking around in manuare all their lives, but the
> horses are killed to get the Jello. As a horse owner, I am sickened by
> the thought of killing them for human consumption. I have not eaten
> this junk since I learned what it was made from in the 1970s. Just the
> sight of it makes me ill.

True dat.

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:02:52 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:40:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>> > sf wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> Jello Shots!
>> >>>
>> >>> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
>> >>> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard to
>> >>> believe I'd never had jello shots before
>> >>>
>> >>> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
>> >>
>> >> I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
>> >> because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
>> >
>> > I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place I
>> > lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a generational
>> > thing.
>>
>> Yeah. The people who are into them are all younger than me.
>>
>If that's true, why do people here.... people I know are "old" bring
>up the subject?

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:32:57 -0600, wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:49:23 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back many
>>generations, and always satisfying for just the "right sweetness" to
>>satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say, "there is always room
>>for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and filling, particularly following
>>a meal, but Jell-O always seems to go down easy. I'm talking about the
>>gelatin powder and not the Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>>
>>Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you best
>>like in it, or prefer it plain?
>>
>>My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit flavors, such
>>as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in it, served with just a
>>dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad liked it with only sliced
>>bananas, but I like it just plain even, and also enjoy a good Jell-O
>>salad too.
>>
>>Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use them for
>>various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake recipe I have and
>>use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes. I have used it in cookies
>>and cupcakes too, and use to make Jigglers for the kids, when they were
>>younger.
>>
>>Judy
>
>I wont touch the stuff. Jello is made from horse hooves. Not only have
>these hooves been walking around in manuare all their lives, but the
>horses are killed to get the Jello. As a horse owner, I am sickened by
>the thought of killing them for human consumption. I have not eaten
>this junk since I learned what it was made from in the 1970s. Just the
>sight of it makes me ill.

Well, guess what. Gelatin is in candy, ice cream, pharmaceuticals and
many, many other things you put in your mouth, handle, or buy every
day. Gelatin is what makes Jell-o what it is. Where did you get the
idea that horses specifically are killed specifically for their
hooves. You're as crazy as Julie. Maybe you are Julie.
Janet US

On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who mentioned this.
>> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods we were
>> given during recovery.
>
> I was also served Jello when sick.
>
The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
was hospitalised.

On 1/6/2013 10:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
> .com...
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>>>> Jello Shots!
>>>>
>>>> Ditto!!! DiL made some jello shots when I recently visited DS and
>>>> Family this past holiday season. They were very good, and it's hard to
>>>> believe I'd never had jello shots before
>>>>
>>>> Sky, who'll make some 'raspberry jello shots' in the near future
>>>
>>> I've never had one either. Maybe it was (is?) a regional thing
>>> because I'd never heard of it before I started reading RFC.
>>
>> I've lived all over the USA and Jell-O shots were common in every place I
>> lived. I don't think it's a regional thing, but it might be a generational
>> thing.
>
> Yeah. The people who are into them are all younger than me.
>
>
Heh. I wouldn't bet on that. A 60-ish woman I worked with in TN
brought a tray of Jell-O shots to an (in-the-office) office party.
She'd even gone to the trouble of buying individual plastic souffle cups
with snap-on lids. The office was closing early that day, as often
happened right before a holiday. About 1PM one of the managers (of
"our" generation) wandered into the break room, opened the fridge and
said, "I think it's time for Jell-O shots!" LOL

Jill

On 1/7/2013 6:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Susan" > wrote
>> On 1/6/2013 7:19 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>> what we need is a Usenet version of TIVO. Now there is a thread about
>>> seasonal coffee creamers. Yeah, that's my idea of cooking.
>>
>> There seem to be very few people in this group who actually prep and
>> cook their own food, so far, anyway.
>>
>> Maybe I just hit it at a lull? Months long??
>
> I prep and cook all ours.

As do I.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:55:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:38:01 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
> >> > What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
> >> > fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
> >> > sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
> >> > Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
> >>
> >> With chili? I have never eaten crackers with chili.
> >
> >Obviously, your mother was a worse cook than mine was. Saltines with
> >the chili stated above are mandatory.
> >
> >> Although I suppose
> >> they do give them to you in restaurants.
> >
> >In restaurants? You *have* to be kidding! What restaurant serves
> >something like that???
>
> Wendy's for one, but I don't buy their chili. Many give you saltines
> with soup.

When I say stupid stuff like that, it's because the places I normally
eat in don't do it. It's easy to forget that most of America is stuck
with chain restaurants in shopping malls when there are so many other
choices readily available. PS: It never fails to amaze me when
someone dignifies a fast food joint by calling it a restaurant. I
guess it's a good way to play Gotcha though.

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On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:48:39 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> Well, guess what. Gelatin is in candy, ice cream, pharmaceuticals and
> many, many other things you put in your mouth, handle, or buy every
> day. Gelatin is what makes Jell-o what it is. Where did you get the
> idea that horses specifically are killed specifically for their
> hooves. You're as crazy as Julie. Maybe you are Julie.

What happens to all the hooves of cattle that gave their lives just so
we can eat steak?

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:36:43 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>Julie Bove:
>
>>So you're saying that a food that is all
>> sugar and chemicals or just all
>> chemicals is not bad for you? How so?
>
>Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
>far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
>meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
>air we breath.

There is nothing in JELL-O that's not already in most foods we
regularly eatm it would be very difficult to avoid consuming
gelatine... one can easily make their own flavored gelatine desserts
from unflavored gelatine (Knox) but why bother... JELL-O is actually
far more healthful than any other confection on the market. Most of
the gelatine in JELL-O is derived from pork yet is so purified that
it's considered kosher.
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8120jello.html

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:22:03 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:36:43 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
>wrote:
>
>>Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
>>far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
>>meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
>>air we breath.
>
>Just because they are there doesn't mean they are good for us.
>
>There are quite a few folks here who are trying to avoid chemicals in
>what we eat. Commercial meat doesn't have to be like that, neither
>does milk, or anything else we put into our mouths. We can do better
>than ingesting all sorts of chemicals added to our food, our water
>supply, and certainly we don't need polluted air. Meat without
>chemicals, antibiotics, and the like IS available commercially.
>Organic milk and milk without antibiotics and such is available. So
>are vegetables, and the like. I would prefer all of the food supply
>to be like this, so I don't have to worry about what I am putting
>into my body.
>
>Right now I wish I could afford to buy some of these. When I do back
>to work, I will do my best to eat more organically. As it is now, I
>am trying to eat "real" food as much as I can. It is healthier, and
>tastes better.
>
>Christine

You can't get more "organic" than eating JELL-O. JELL-O is purer than
the water out of your tap you'd use to prepare it.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:40:39 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:48:39 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>> Well, guess what. Gelatin is in candy, ice cream, pharmaceuticals and
>> many, many other things you put in your mouth, handle, or buy every
>> day. Gelatin is what makes Jell-o what it is. Where did you get the
>> idea that horses specifically are killed specifically for their
>> hooves. You're as crazy as Julie. Maybe you are Julie.
>
>What happens to all the hooves of cattle that gave their lives just so
>we can eat steak?

gelatin isn't just hooves. Animals are slaughtered for a number of
reasons. I, for one, am glad that every part of those animals is used
for something. As for hooves being in manure, where do you think the
casings around sausage have been? (not ranting at you SF)
Janet US

On 1/7/2013 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> This evening: butterflied chicken, roasted very simply with butter and
> seasoning, served with baked potatoes. I have a nice big leek in the
> fridge that needs used up, so I think I will make 'leek and tattie' soup
> this afternoon. Just easy stuff that doesn't take any effort.

I haven't made leek'n'tattie soup in ages. I think that's what we'll
have for dinner tonight!

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/7/2013 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> This evening: butterflied chicken, roasted very simply with butter and
>> seasoning, served with baked potatoes. I have a nice big leek in the
>> fridge that needs used up, so I think I will make 'leek and tattie' soup
>> this afternoon. Just easy stuff that doesn't take any effort.
>
> I haven't made leek'n'tattie soup in ages. I think that's what we'll have
> for dinner tonight!

bon appetite

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On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:19:28 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 1/7/2013 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > This evening: butterflied chicken, roasted very simply with butter and
> > seasoning, served with baked potatoes. I have a nice big leek in the
> > fridge that needs used up, so I think I will make 'leek and tattie' soup
> > this afternoon. Just easy stuff that doesn't take any effort.
>
> I haven't made leek'n'tattie soup in ages. I think that's what we'll
> have for dinner tonight!

What will you have with it? Bread of some kind?

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On 1/7/2013 10:25 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:19:28 -0500, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2013 10:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> This evening: butterflied chicken, roasted very simply with butter and
>>> seasoning, served with baked potatoes. I have a nice big leek in the
>>> fridge that needs used up, so I think I will make 'leek and tattie' soup
>>> this afternoon. Just easy stuff that doesn't take any effort.
>>
>> I haven't made leek'n'tattie soup in ages. I think that's what we'll
>> have for dinner tonight!
>
> What will you have with it? Bread of some kind?
>
Yes, I'm baking bread today.
And there's apple pie (homemade, of course!), for dessert.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 04:22:51 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
wrote:

>sf > wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:22:04 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saltine crackers are for chinese food and soup. I use no salt, saltine
>>> crackers.
>>
>> What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
>> fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
>> sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
>> Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
>
>I can understand the chili recipe, but old fashioned ? What about
>Cincinnati, or Texan. Yes, crackers and chili. Have not had oyster crackers
>in a long time.
>
>What else but saltines go with Chinese. I have not seen a Chinese place
>serve them, since the first time I ate at a Chinese restaurant in the 50's.
>They knew it right, and the place is still open.
>
>Greg

I've never seen saltines served at any Chinese restaurant, for soups
they traditionally serve crispy noodles... in fact they are placed on
the table even before you order anything, along with the hot mustard
and duck sauce.

Most NYC diners will have individually wrapped packets of saltines on
the table in a basket along with other individually wrapped
crackers... but it's very rare that a NYC diner serves chili. I know
that in particular locations folks are very fussy about what's served
with chili but I've seen chili served with most any accompaniment from
beans, to rice, to saltines... in NYC it would be exceedingly rare to
find cornbread at any restaurant, however corn muffins for breakfast
are VERY common... typically toasted corn moffins... typically split
and cut side griddled in butter and served with more butter.
http://drfugawe.files.wordpress.com/...img_3539-1.jpg

I don't particularly care for the kind of chili I've tried in Texas,
none would win a chili cookoff... I don't even call that fiery hot
Texas slop chili.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:32:57 -0600, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:49:23 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back many
>>>generations, and always satisfying for just the "right sweetness" to
>>>satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say, "there is always room
>>>for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and filling, particularly following
>>>a meal, but Jell-O always seems to go down easy. I'm talking about the
>>>gelatin powder and not the Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>>>
>>>Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you best
>>>like in it, or prefer it plain?
>>>
>>>My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit flavors, such
>>>as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in it, served with just a
>>>dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad liked it with only sliced
>>>bananas, but I like it just plain even, and also enjoy a good Jell-O
>>>salad too.
>>>
>>>Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use them for
>>>various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake recipe I have and
>>>use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes. I have used it in cookies
>>>and cupcakes too, and use to make Jigglers for the kids, when they were
>>>younger.
>>>
>>>Judy
>>
>>I wont touch the stuff. Jello is made from horse hooves. Not only have
>>these hooves been walking around in manuare all their lives, but the
>>horses are killed to get the Jello. As a horse owner, I am sickened by
>>the thought of killing them for human consumption. I have not eaten
>>this junk since I learned what it was made from in the 1970s. Just the
>>sight of it makes me ill.
>
> Well, guess what. Gelatin is in candy, ice cream, pharmaceuticals and
> many, many other things you put in your mouth, handle, or buy every
> day. Gelatin is what makes Jell-o what it is. Where did you get the
> idea that horses specifically are killed specifically for their
> hooves. You're as crazy as Julie. Maybe you are Julie.
> Janet US

If the person is Jewish and keeps kosher then they can't eat any of those
things.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:55:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:38:01 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
>> >> > fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
>> >> > sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
>> >> > Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
>> >>
>> >> With chili? I have never eaten crackers with chili.
>> >
>> >Obviously, your mother was a worse cook than mine was. Saltines with
>> >the chili stated above are mandatory.
>> >
>> >> Although I suppose
>> >> they do give them to you in restaurants.
>> >
>> >In restaurants? You *have* to be kidding! What restaurant serves
>> >something like that???
>>
>> Wendy's for one, but I don't buy their chili. Many give you saltines
>> with soup.
>
> When I say stupid stuff like that, it's because the places I normally
> eat in don't do it. It's easy to forget that most of America is stuck
> with chain restaurants in shopping malls when there are so many other
> choices readily available. PS: It never fails to amaze me when
> someone dignifies a fast food joint by calling it a restaurant. I
> guess it's a good way to play Gotcha though.

The only places I've ever seen chili here are chain places. And not many of
them have it.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:36:43 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Julie Bove:
>>
>>>So you're saying that a food that is all
>>> sugar and chemicals or just all
>>> chemicals is not bad for you? How so?
>>
>>Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
>>far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
>>meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
>>air we breath.
>
> There is nothing in JELL-O that's not already in most foods we
> regularly eatm it would be very difficult to avoid consuming
> gelatine... one can easily make their own flavored gelatine desserts
> from unflavored gelatine (Knox) but why bother... JELL-O is actually
> far more healthful than any other confection on the market. Most of
> the gelatine in JELL-O is derived from pork yet is so purified that
> it's considered kosher.
> http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8120jello.html

If that's true then why is there kosher gelatin? And true vegetarians
wouldn't eat stuff with gelatin in it.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Times have changed but I have on rare occasion seen it in restaurants.
> It is served on a regular basis in many hospitals.

How about trash-TV "jello wrestling"? The stuff is immortal.

Kalmia wrote:

> > >Hate it. A real junk food in my book.

> > HUH?! what is the basis for your feelings that it is junk food

> Have you checked the nutritional content? Even from a pure taste and
> texture aspect, it's revolting.

They make a sugarless version, you know -- essentially flavored water.

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:52:57 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 04:22:51 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
>wrote:
>
>> sf > wrote:
>> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:22:04 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Saltine crackers are for chinese food and soup. I use no salt, saltine
>> >> crackers.
>> >
>> > What??? Saltine crackers (the salted kind) are for eating with "old
>> > fashioned" chili - the stuff that's made with hamburger meat, tomato
>> > sauce, commercial chili seasoning powder and red kidney beans! It's
>> > Homey Food. Rock on Brotha!
>>
>> I can understand the chili recipe, but old fashioned ?
>
>Yes, old fashioned! I consider something I ate in the '50's and '60's
>old fashioned.
>
>> What about Cincinnati, or Texan.
>
>I dunno, what about them?
>
>> Yes, crackers and chili. Have not had oyster crackers
>> in a long time.
>
>Please don't tell me you ate oyster crackers with chili! They are
>reserved for (white) clam chowder and they don't go with anything
>else. <cough> "I have spoken".

Every clam bar in NYC serves a dozen on the half shell with a packet
of Oysterettes, especially Nathan's Famous.

sf wrote:

> > Me too. I've been told that the appeal to them is that for some reason they
> > get you drunk faster. Not that something like that would appeal to me, but
> > it seems to for some people.
>
> <feeling dumbfounded> It seems like shots embedded in jello would
> slow you down if being drunk as the ultimate goal.

Wrong. The booze goes down quicker. No sipping required.