spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Jan 7, 7:40 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:32:57 -0600, wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:49:23 -0900, (Judy
>>>> Haffner) wrote:
>>
>>>>> Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back
>>>>> many generations, and always satisfying for just the "right
>>>>> sweetness" to satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say,
>>>>> "there is always room for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and
>>>>> filling, particularly following a meal, but Jell-O always seems
>>>>> to go down easy. I'm talking about the gelatin powder and not the
>>>>> Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>>
>>>>> Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you
>>>>> best like in it, or prefer it plain?
>>
>>>>> My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit
>>>>> flavors, such as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in
>>>>> it, served with just a dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad
>>>>> liked it with only sliced bananas, but I like it just plain even,
>>>>> and also enjoy a good Jell-O salad too.
>>
>>>>> Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use
>>>>> them for various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake
>>>>> recipe I have and use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes.
>>>>> I have used it in cookies and cupcakes too, and use to make
>>>>> Jigglers for the kids, when they were younger.
>>
>>>>> Judy
>>
>>>> I wont touch the stuff. Jello is made from horse hooves. Not only
>>>> have these hooves been walking around in manuare all their lives,
>>>> but the horses are killed to get the Jello. As a horse owner, I am
>>>> sickened by the thought of killing them for human consumption. I
>>>> have not eaten this junk since I learned what it was made from in
>>>> the 1970s. Just the sight of it makes me ill.
>>
>>> Well, guess what. Gelatin is in candy, ice cream, pharmaceuticals
>>> and many, many other things you put in your mouth, handle, or buy
>>> every day. Gelatin is what makes Jell-o what it is. Where did you
>>> get the idea that horses specifically are killed specifically for
>>> their hooves. You're as crazy as Julie. Maybe you are Julie.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> If the person is Jewish and keeps kosher then they can't eat any of
>> those things.
>
> Observant Jews can eat traif things if (1) they need them for their
> health, and there's no alternative, or (2) the concentration is super
> low. So if your medication comes in gelatin capsules, or if you take
> glucosamine and chondroitin for your joints (one of those comes from
> shellfish shells), it's OK.

I don't know about that for sure. I think some people would not take those
things. I don't know that many Jewish people becauset there really aren't
many in this area and some of the ones I do know don't keep kosher. But I
do know of one online who would not take a medicine if she thought it wasn't
kosher. But maybe that's just her.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:27:41 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 14:33:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:59:35 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not on FB. Not this group anyway. I get enough grief here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Facebook is virtually grief-free. At least for now...
>>>>
>>>> For you maybe. Not gonna try it.
>>>
>>> If you carry on as you do here, you WILL no doubt land in a bunch of
>>> personal filters. For some of us it's not hard to live a "double
>>> life". I'm a Teddy bear <snork> on RFC on Facebook. But here in
>>> RFC Usenet anything goes.
>>>
>>> You, OTOH, would have a problem fitting in since you're so negative
>>> and don't really do much cooking.
>>
>> I do plenty of cooking.
>
> Not normal cooking. You just slap stuff together. It's not real
> cooking since you can't or won't use 90% of the ingredients normal
> people would use to make normal foods.
>
So the Rissoles weren't cooking? I spent many hours in the kitchen the make
them.

>> I just don't want to hook up with RFC on FB just as
>> I will no longer go to the chat. People tell me that the chat is
>> fine now but my experiences in the past do not always bear that out.
>> Yes, I did go in there plenty of times and it was fine but... Most
>> of the people I used to like to chat with are no longer with us.
>
> People still use RFC chat? As long as they're not posting here 5
> times a day "I'm lonely, anybody want to chat?", then I'm fine with
> that. In a sense, Facebook is somewhat of a medium between chat and
> Usenet. But some people do abuse Facebook and try and make it too
> much like a chat room.

I don't know if they do or out.

I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because I am on
there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this reason I took off my
MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to my Yahoo account. So every
time I went to check my mail there, this one person would start IMing me. I
would keep telling her that I was only on there quickly to check the mail
and that I didn't have the time to IM. And she would reply something like,
"Yes you are! It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy.
But I generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >, says...
> >
> > S Viemeister wrote:
> > >
> > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who mentioned this.
> > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods we were
> > > >> given during recovery.
> > > >
> > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
> > > >
> > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
> > > was hospitalised.
> >
> > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for a
> > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>
> Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
> don't pay for room and food.

You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because I am on
> there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this reason I took off my
> MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to my Yahoo account. So every
> time I went to check my mail there, this one person would start IMing me. I
> would keep telling her that I was only on there quickly to check the mail
> and that I didn't have the time to IM. And she would reply something like,
> "Yes you are! It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy.
> But I generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.

You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Gary > wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who mentioned this.
>>>> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods we were
>>>> given during recovery.
>>>
>>> I was also served Jello when sick.
>>>
>> The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
>> was hospitalised.
>
> Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for a
> room. It's costing you thousands per day and what do they feed you? Very
> bland food and jello.
>
> I would love to see the cost of hospital jello dish, vs grocery store jello
> dish. hahahahaha

I can see benefits of hospital serving jello. I don't think I ever saw it
at a large hospital cafeteria I used for 30 years.

Greg

On Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:11:14 PM UTC-6, Judy Haffner wrote:
> sw wrote:
>
>
>
> >Running out of ideas for surveys, are
>
> > you, Judy? Now we have to stoop as
>
> > low as to discuss the culinary virtues of
>
> > Jell-O?
>
>
>
> Ya, right on! Next I might start a survey on what makes you
>
> "tick"...that ought to be a winner, don't you think? LOL
>
>
>
> Least I'm not discussing why my soup went wrong, and how to cook cheaply
>
> out of nothing, etc., etc., etc.
>

A rift between "Dumb" and "Dumber."
>
> Judy

--Bryan

On 1/6/2013 12:49 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> Jell-O is probably the most popular dessert there is, going back many
> generations, and always satisfying for just the "right sweetness" to
> satisfy anyone's palate, and as they always say, "there is always room
> for Jell-O!" Most desserts are heavy and filling, particularly following
> a meal, but Jell-O always seems to go down easy. I'm talking about the
> gelatin powder and not the Jell-O puddings, although they are good too.
>
> Do you make it often at your house? Do you enjoy it? What do you best
> like in it, or prefer it plain?
>
> My hubby often asks for it, and likes one of the red fruit flavors, such
> as strawberry, with fruit cocktail and bananas in it, served with just a
> dab of real whipped cream on top. My dad liked it with only sliced
> bananas, but I like it just plain even, and also enjoy a good Jell-O
> salad too.
>
> Do you have a favorite flavor(s)? I like most of them, and use them for
> various things, such as lemon Jell-O for a pound cake recipe I have and
> use various flavors for the Poke & Pour Cakes. I have used it in cookies
> and cupcakes too, and use to make Jigglers for the kids, when they were
> younger.
>
> Judy
>
Do jello shots count? Actually, I don't really like those, either, but
they pack a punch. Not really a fan of jello no matter what Bill Cosby
says.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to
>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there, this
>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
>
> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.

Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person. I
sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am generally
only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a conversation
with me then. I have told him time and again that I just usually do not
have time to talk then because we have to leave for dance. But he seems not
to get it.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:29:00 -0800, sf > wrote:



>> >In restaurants? You *have* to be kidding! What restaurant serves
>> >something like that???
>>
>> Wendy's for one, but I don't buy their chili. Many give you saltines
>> with soup.
>
>When I say stupid stuff like that, it's because the places I normally
>eat in don't do it. It's easy to forget that most of America is stuck
>with chain restaurants in shopping malls when there are so many other
>choices readily available. PS: It never fails to amaze me when
>someone dignifies a fast food joint by calling it a restaurant. I
>guess it's a good way to play Gotcha though.

Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
basket of bread or rolls.

Just in case anyone here was reading for Jell-o suggestions, strawberry plus
black cherry is good/great with fruit cocktail and bananas. A fast and
mostly harmless dessert is chocolate pudding with tiny vanilla wafers; even
works okay with 2% milk. There are many praline recipes that call for
Jell-o 'cook' pudding - butterscotch. Often hard to find but it does a fine
job.
Sometimes I wish whoever's feeling cranky would start a thread subject
of Who wants to Fight? and keep them separate. Polly

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:34:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
> soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
> family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
> basket of bread or rolls.


I must go to the higher end restaurants then, because DD took us out
to Pasta Pomodoro the other night because we'd baby sat for 4 days and
nights and we went out as a family to a "family" restaurant. It was
pretty nice. They had a fireplace, open kitchen and a room behind the
fireplace for those people who didn't want to be in an area where
children were seated. The food was merely okay, but the butternut
squash soup was superior (no saltines were served with it), made with
chicken stock, which they called "velouté" instead of cream; and the
panna cotta was memorable.... well, I haven't met a panna cotta I
didn't like yet - so take that with a grain of salt.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:11:14 PM UTC-6, Judy Haffner wrote:
> >
> >
> > Least I'm not discussing why my soup went wrong, and how to cook cheaply
> > out of nothing, etc., etc., etc.
> >
>
> A rift between "Dumb" and "Dumber."
> >
Of course you and Steve know everything, so neither of you learned
anything, but I thought the soup discussion was "fruitful". It proved
my theory that beans need garlic and tomato (salt is a given).

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So the Rissoles weren't cooking? I spent many hours in the kitchen the
>> make
>> them.
>
> I didn't even dare look at that thread (it's meatloaf). Did you
> mention the ground beef that you bought at Costco that expired 3 weeks
> before you bought it (which turned out to be a lie).

No. This meat came from Target and it was fine. It was Laura's.
>
> No, I skip most of your posts.
>
>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because I am
>> on
>> there doesn't mean that I have time to chat.
>
> Then you have chat always tell people you are not available. I've had
> mine turned off since day 3.

Okay.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:20:49 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> > Then you have chat always tell people you are not available. I've had
> > mine turned off since day 3.
>
> Okay.

<snork> He's sooo popular.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
>>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
>>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to
>>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there, this
>>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
>>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
>>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
>>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
>>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
>>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
>>
>> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
>> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.
>
> Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person. I
> sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
> messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am
> generally only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a
> conversation with me then. I have told him time and again that I just
> usually do not have time to talk then because we have to leave for dance.
> But he seems not to get it.

You could just ignore him and he would soon get fed up and stop trying to
engage you.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > S Viemeister wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>> > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who
>> > > >> mentioned this.
>> > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods
>> > > >> we were
>> > > >> given during recovery.
>> > > >
>> > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
>> > > >
>> > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
>> > > was hospitalised.
>> >
>> > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for a
>> > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>>
>> Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
>> don't pay for room and food.
>
> You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.

Quite so and in our case ... twice because we had private insurance too.
Whether food was listed to that degree I don't know, because the insurance
paid the bills and we never saw them.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:11:14 PM UTC-6, Judy Haffner wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Least I'm not discussing why my soup went wrong, and how to cook
>> > cheaply
>> > out of nothing, etc., etc., etc.
>> >
>>
>> A rift between "Dumb" and "Dumber."
>> >
> Of course you and Steve know everything, so neither of you learned
> anything, but I thought the soup discussion was "fruitful". It proved
> my theory that beans need garlic and tomato (salt is a given).

Not sure why there was a problem discussing soup. This IS a cooking group!
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
>>>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
>>>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to
>>>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there, this
>>>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
>>>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
>>>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
>>>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
>>>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
>>>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
>>>
>>> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
>>> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.
>>
>> Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person. I
>> sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
>> messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am
>> generally only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a
>> conversation with me then. I have told him time and again that I just
>> usually do not have time to talk then because we have to leave for dance.
>> But he seems not to get it.
>
> You could just ignore him and he would soon get fed up and stop trying to
> engage you.

I tried that but then he was making this awful posts about being ignored.
He didn't name any names. But I'll bet I am not the only one who did this.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:39:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:11:14 PM UTC-6, Judy Haffner wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Least I'm not discussing why my soup went wrong, and how to cook
> >> > cheaply
> >> > out of nothing, etc., etc., etc.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A rift between "Dumb" and "Dumber."
> >> >
> > Of course you and Steve know everything, so neither of you learned
> > anything, but I thought the soup discussion was "fruitful". It proved
> > my theory that beans need garlic and tomato (salt is a given).
>
> Not sure why there was a problem discussing soup. This IS a cooking group!
> --
In a perfect world...

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:11:14 PM UTC-6, Judy Haffner wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Least I'm not discussing why my soup went wrong, and how to cook
>>> > cheaply
>>> > out of nothing, etc., etc., etc.
>>> >
>>>
>>> A rift between "Dumb" and "Dumber."
>>> >
>> Of course you and Steve know everything, so neither of you learned
>> anything, but I thought the soup discussion was "fruitful". It proved
>> my theory that beans need garlic and tomato (salt is a given).
>
> Not sure why there was a problem discussing soup. This IS a cooking
> group!

Yeah.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:34:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
>> soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
>> family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
>> basket of bread or rolls.
>
>
> I must go to the higher end restaurants then, because DD took us out
> to Pasta Pomodoro the other night because we'd baby sat for 4 days and
> nights and we went out as a family to a "family" restaurant. It was
> pretty nice. They had a fireplace, open kitchen and a room behind the
> fireplace for those people who didn't want to be in an area where
> children were seated. The food was merely okay, but the butternut
> squash soup was superior (no saltines were served with it), made with
> chicken stock, which they called "velouté" instead of cream; and the
> panna cotta was memorable.... well, I haven't met a panna cotta I
> didn't like yet - so take that with a grain of salt.
>

I'm not talking about the foo foo places, I'm talking real down home
restaurants that serve the locals. Decent food, affordable prices for the
great unwashed.

If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is you'd
get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits" or "we
attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"

You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get saltines
with your chicken soup.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
>>>>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
>>>>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to
>>>>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there, this
>>>>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
>>>>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
>>>>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
>>>>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
>>>>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
>>>>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
>>>>
>>>> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
>>>> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.
>>>
>>> Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person. I
>>> sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
>>> messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am
>>> generally only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a
>>> conversation with me then. I have told him time and again that I just
>>> usually do not have time to talk then because we have to leave for
>>> dance. But he seems not to get it.
>>
>> You could just ignore him and he would soon get fed up and stop trying to
>> engage you.
>
> I tried that but then he was making this awful posts about being ignored.
> He didn't name any names. But I'll bet I am not the only one who did
> this.

<shrug> Let him! Do you really care?
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:30:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, says...
>>> >
>>> > S Viemeister wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>>> > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who
>>> > > >> mentioned this.
>>> > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods
>>> > > >> we were
>>> > > >> given during recovery.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
>>> > > >
>>> > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
>>> > > was hospitalised.
>>> >
>>> > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for a
>>> > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>>>
>>> Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
>>> don't pay for room and food.
>>
>> You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
>
>Quite so and in our case ... twice because we had private insurance too.
>Whether food was listed to that degree I don't know, because the insurance
>paid the bills and we never saw them.
>
>
>--
For hospitals in my community, there is a flat rate for the room per
day. It includes meals, telephone, television, whatever. So if you
don't watch TV, it makes no difference. If you request snacks in
between meals, even very late at night, it makes no difference. Can
you imagine the accounting nightmare of doing it otherwise? Medicare
covers X amount for Y length of time. If you have supplemental
insurance, it picks up after Medicare according to your insurance
plan provisions. But you are right about taxes. The hospitals in my
community are 'not for profit' which means one way or another, taxes
cover indigent care. I'm happy to pay those taxes. No one should
live in fear because health care is not available.
Janet US

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:18:24 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:34:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
>>> soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
>>> family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
>>> basket of bread or rolls.
>>
>>
>> I must go to the higher end restaurants then, because DD took us out
>> to Pasta Pomodoro the other night because we'd baby sat for 4 days and
>> nights and we went out as a family to a "family" restaurant. It was
>> pretty nice. They had a fireplace, open kitchen and a room behind the
>> fireplace for those people who didn't want to be in an area where
>> children were seated. The food was merely okay, but the butternut
>> squash soup was superior (no saltines were served with it), made with
>> chicken stock, which they called "velouté" instead of cream; and the
>> panna cotta was memorable.... well, I haven't met a panna cotta I
>> didn't like yet - so take that with a grain of salt.
>>
>
>I'm not talking about the foo foo places, I'm talking real down home
>restaurants that serve the locals. Decent food, affordable prices for the
>great unwashed.
>
>If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is you'd
>get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits" or "we
>attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"
>
>You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get saltines
>with your chicken soup.
>
You've got it all wrong, veloute is the fancy suit a man wears to a
wedding -- you know, the one with the wide velvet lapels?
Janet US ;o)

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:18:24 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:34:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
>>>> soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
>>>> family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
>>>> basket of bread or rolls.
>>>
>>>
>>> I must go to the higher end restaurants then, because DD took us out
>>> to Pasta Pomodoro the other night because we'd baby sat for 4 days and
>>> nights and we went out as a family to a "family" restaurant. It was
>>> pretty nice. They had a fireplace, open kitchen and a room behind the
>>> fireplace for those people who didn't want to be in an area where
>>> children were seated. The food was merely okay, but the butternut
>>> squash soup was superior (no saltines were served with it), made with
>>> chicken stock, which they called "velouté" instead of cream; and the
>>> panna cotta was memorable.... well, I haven't met a panna cotta I
>>> didn't like yet - so take that with a grain of salt.
>>>
>>
>>I'm not talking about the foo foo places, I'm talking real down home
>>restaurants that serve the locals. Decent food, affordable prices for the
>>great unwashed.
>>
>>If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is you'd
>>get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits" or "we
>>attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"
>>
>>You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get saltines
>>with your chicken soup.
>>
>You've got it all wrong, veloute is the fancy suit a man wears to a
>wedding -- you know, the one with the wide velvet lapels?
>Janet US ;o)

I thought a veloute is an IUD.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:30:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>> >
>>>> > S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who
>>>> > > >> mentioned this.
>>>> > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first
>>>> > > >> foods
>>>> > > >> we were
>>>> > > >> given during recovery.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when
>>>> > > I
>>>> > > was hospitalised.
>>>> >
>>>> > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for
>>>> > a
>>>> > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>>>>
>>>> Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
>>>> don't pay for room and food.
>>>
>>> You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
>>
>>Quite so and in our case ... twice because we had private insurance too.
>>Whether food was listed to that degree I don't know, because the insurance
>>paid the bills and we never saw them.
>>
>>
>>--
> For hospitals in my community, there is a flat rate for the room per
> day. It includes meals, telephone, television, whatever. So if you
> don't watch TV, it makes no difference. If you request snacks in
> between meals, even very late at night, it makes no difference. Can
> you imagine the accounting nightmare of doing it otherwise? Medicare
> covers X amount for Y length of time. If you have supplemental
> insurance, it picks up after Medicare according to your insurance
> plan provisions. But you are right about taxes. The hospitals in my
> community are 'not for profit' which means one way or another, taxes
> cover indigent care. I'm happy to pay those taxes. No one should
> live in fear because health care is not available.

Absolutely. The alternative is too horrifying
--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:18:24 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:34:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wendy's is a name you'd recognize. You will also get saltines with
>>>> soup at Hank's, 4G's, and The Golden Greek. They are some local
>>>> family restaurants in the area. At higher end places,, you'd get a
>>>> basket of bread or rolls.
>>>
>>>
>>> I must go to the higher end restaurants then, because DD took us out
>>> to Pasta Pomodoro the other night because we'd baby sat for 4 days and
>>> nights and we went out as a family to a "family" restaurant. It was
>>> pretty nice. They had a fireplace, open kitchen and a room behind the
>>> fireplace for those people who didn't want to be in an area where
>>> children were seated. The food was merely okay, but the butternut
>>> squash soup was superior (no saltines were served with it), made with
>>> chicken stock, which they called "velouté" instead of cream; and the
>>> panna cotta was memorable.... well, I haven't met a panna cotta I
>>> didn't like yet - so take that with a grain of salt.
>>>
>>
>>I'm not talking about the foo foo places, I'm talking real down home
>>restaurants that serve the locals. Decent food, affordable prices for the
>>great unwashed.
>>
>>If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is you'd
>>get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits" or
>>"we
>>attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"
>>
>>You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get saltines
>>with your chicken soup.
>>
> You've got it all wrong, veloute is the fancy suit a man wears to a
> wedding -- you know, the one with the wide velvet lapels?

lol

--
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On 1/8/2013 9:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:18:24 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
>> wrote:

>>> If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is
>>> you'd
>>> get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits" or
>>> "we
>>> attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"
>>>
>>> You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get
>>> saltines
>>> with your chicken soup.
>>>
>> You've got it all wrong, veloute is the fancy suit a man wears to a
>> wedding -- you know, the one with the wide velvet lapels?
>
> lol
>


No, a veloute is a large red and white macaw found in the south of
France and some coastal sections of Tunisia. Because of the color, it
is also French slang for candy canes.

gloria p

Sqwertz > wrote:

>People still use RFC chat? As long as they're not posting here 5
>times a day "I'm lonely, anybody want to chat?", then I'm fine with
>that. In a sense, Facebook is somewhat of a medium between chat and
>Usenet.

Immediately after they upgraded the NSF backbone to T3, Usenet
suddenly became a chatty medium for a heady couple of months --
because suddnely posts would be propogated in a matter of seconds
to most user's servers.

(When was that anyway? 1993?)


Steve

"gloria p" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/8/2013 9:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:18:24 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" >
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> If you asked the patrons of the places I mentioned what "veloute" is
>>>> you'd
>>>> get answers like "My grandfather used a 16 ga Velute to hunt rabbits"
>>>> or
>>>> "we
>>>> attach the velute to the tractor when cutting hay"
>>>>
>>>> You won't find panna cotta for desert either. . But you will get
>>>> saltines
>>>> with your chicken soup.
>>>>
>>> You've got it all wrong, veloute is the fancy suit a man wears to a
>>> wedding -- you know, the one with the wide velvet lapels?
>>
>> lol
>>
>
>
> No, a veloute is a large red and white macaw found in the south of France
> and some coastal sections of Tunisia. Because of the color, it is also
> French slang for candy canes.

yes dear ... *backs off slowly avoiding eye contact*
--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:33:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
> >>>>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
> >>>>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it to
> >>>>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there, this
> >>>>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
> >>>>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
> >>>>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
> >>>>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
> >>>>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
> >>>>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
> >>>> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.
> >>>
> >>> Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person. I
> >>> sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
> >>> messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am
> >>> generally only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a
> >>> conversation with me then. I have told him time and again that I just
> >>> usually do not have time to talk then because we have to leave for
> >>> dance. But he seems not to get it.
> >>
> >> You could just ignore him and he would soon get fed up and stop trying to
> >> engage you.
> >
> > I tried that but then he was making this awful posts about being ignored.
> > He didn't name any names. But I'll bet I am not the only one who did
> > this.
>
> <shrug> Let him! Do you really care?
> --
Sometimes you need to "unfriend" people in FB. If he wasn't a close
friend and not taking the hints, that's the time to do it. I've
gotten back into contact with a lot of friends from HS and one of them
got too "chatty" for me. I just wasn't all that interested in doing
more than exchanging pleasantries with him via the News Feed, but he
always wanted to chat so I unfriended him eventually. I knew could go
stealth, but there are others I like to chat with from time to time,
just not *all* the time and I didn't know how to be open for some and
closed to others... if it's even possible.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:22:03 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:36:43 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
>wrote:
>
>>Duh, they've been making sugar-free Jell-O for a very long time, and as
>>far as chemicals go...they are found in many things...in the commercial
>>meat we buy, including fish, milk and even water, and also in the very
>>air we breath.
>
>Just because they are there doesn't mean they are good for us.
>
>There are quite a few folks here who are trying to avoid chemicals in
>what we eat. Commercial meat doesn't have to be like that, neither
>does milk, or anything else we put into our mouths. We can do better
>than ingesting all sorts of chemicals added to our food, our water
>supply, and certainly we don't need polluted air. Meat without
>chemicals, antibiotics, and the like IS available commercially.
>Organic milk and milk without antibiotics and such is available. So
>are vegetables, and the like. I would prefer all of the food supply
>to be like this, so I don't have to worry about what I am putting
>into my body.
>
>Right now I wish I could afford to buy some of these. When I do back
>to work, I will do my best to eat more organically. As it is now, I
>am trying to eat "real" food as much as I can. It is healthier, and
>tastes better.
>
>Christine

I buy mostly organic products meats, etc..the way I help to compensate
for the extra expense is to eat a few more meatless meals, and I keep
my portions smaller. While we are eating healthier we should also
think about the toxins we are exposing ourselves to in cleaning
products, I use all natural cleaning products too.
I'm not rabid about it by any means, but when given the choice, I
always pick out the healthier one.

koko
--
Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

www.kokoscornerblog.com

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:33:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> sf wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:29:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I have people on my FB who want to chat all the time. Just because
>> >>>>> I am on there doesn't mean that I have time to chat. For this
>> >>>>> reason I took off my MSN Messenger. At some point they linked it
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> my Yahoo account. So every time I went to check my mail there,
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>> one person would start IMing me. I would keep telling her that I
>> >>>>> was only on there quickly to check the mail and that I didn't have
>> >>>>> the time to IM. And she would reply something like, "Yes you are!
>> >>>>> It says you are online!" Gah! IMing can be quite handy. But I
>> >>>>> generally use it only if I need information from a certain person
>> >>>>> right away. I don't usually use it to chat but occasionally I do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You can go stealth now. Nobody will know you're online unless you
>> >>>> post something, but you won't be shown as available in chat.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes. I may have to do that on my FB at least with this one person.
>> >>> I
>> >>> sometimes go on there in the afternoon but just to see if I have any
>> >>> messages. The dance studio tends to communicate via FB. But I am
>> >>> generally only on there for a minute or so. And this guy starts up a
>> >>> conversation with me then. I have told him time and again that I
>> >>> just
>> >>> usually do not have time to talk then because we have to leave for
>> >>> dance. But he seems not to get it.
>> >>
>> >> You could just ignore him and he would soon get fed up and stop trying
>> >> to
>> >> engage you.
>> >
>> > I tried that but then he was making this awful posts about being
>> > ignored.
>> > He didn't name any names. But I'll bet I am not the only one who did
>> > this.
>>
>> <shrug> Let him! Do you really care?
>> --
> Sometimes you need to "unfriend" people in FB. If he wasn't a close
> friend and not taking the hints, that's the time to do it. I've
> gotten back into contact with a lot of friends from HS and one of them
> got too "chatty" for me. I just wasn't all that interested in doing
> more than exchanging pleasantries with him via the News Feed, but he
> always wanted to chat so I unfriended him eventually. I knew could go
> stealth, but there are others I like to chat with from time to time,
> just not *all* the time and I didn't know how to be open for some and
> closed to others... if it's even possible.

I don't even know this person in real life.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:27:07 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >, says...
> > > >
> > > > S Viemeister wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who mentioned this.
> > > > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first foods we were
> > > > > >> given during recovery.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
> > > > > >
> > > > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was when I
> > > > > was hospitalised.
> > > >
> > > > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent for a
> > > > room. It's costing you thousands per day
> > >
> > > Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
> > > don't pay for room and food.
> >
> > You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
>
> Taxpayers fund the NHS; NHS patients are not billed for their room,
> meals etc.
>
In that case, I can claim that my hospital stays are free too because
I'm never billed either; but I pay for it monthly along with other
paycheck deductibles.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:39:11 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I don't even know this person in real life.

Unfriend him then. You don't need that from a stranger.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:39:11 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't even know this person in real life.
>
> Unfriend him then. You don't need that from a stranger.

I might.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:27:07 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In article >, says...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > S Viemeister wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who
>> > > > > > >> mentioned this.
>> > > > > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first
>> > > > > > >> foods we were
>> > > > > > >> given during recovery.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was
>> > > > > > when I
>> > > > > > was hospitalised.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent
>> > > > > for a
>> > > > > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
>> > > > don't pay for room and food.
>> > >
>> > > You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
>> >
>> > Taxpayers fund the NHS; NHS patients are not billed for their
>> > room,
>> > meals etc.
>> >
>> In that case, I can claim that my hospital stays are free too because
>> I'm never billed either; but I pay for it monthly along with other
>> paycheck deductibles.
>
> and do people who dont have a paycheck or pay tax/deductibles, still
> receive the same treatment, room, food etc as you?

There are hospitals here that will take people with no income. They get the
same treatment and food as everyone else.

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:48:37 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:



>For hospitals in my community, there is a flat rate for the room per
>day. It includes meals, telephone, television, whatever. So if you
>don't watch TV, it makes no difference. If you request snacks in
>between meals, even very late at night, it makes no difference. Can
>you imagine the accounting nightmare of doing it otherwise? Medicare
>covers X amount for Y length of time. If you have supplemental
>insurance, it picks up after Medicare according to your insurance
>plan provisions. But you are right about taxes. The hospitals in my
>community are 'not for profit' which means one way or another, taxes
>cover indigent care. I'm happy to pay those taxes. No one should
>live in fear because health care is not available.
>Janet US

Some is paid by taxes. Some is also paid by charging higher than
needed rates to those that do have insurance to cover the loss from
those that do not.

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:49:03 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:27:07 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> > says...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > In article >, says...
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > S Viemeister wrote:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On 1/7/2013 12:19 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:03:52 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >> Well it might be odd to you but I am not the only one who
>> >> > > > > > >> mentioned this.
>> >> > > > > > >> In our house when we were sick, Jell-O was one of the first
>> >> > > > > > >> foods we were
>> >> > > > > > >> given during recovery.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I was also served Jello when sick.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > The only only time in the past few decades I've had Jello, was
>> >> > > > > > when I
>> >> > > > > > was hospitalised.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Funny too. You are in the hospital paying the very highest rent
>> >> > > > > for a
>> >> > > > > room. It's costing you thousands per day
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
>> >> > > > don't pay for room and food.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Taxpayers fund the NHS; NHS patients are not billed for their
>> >> > room,
>> >> > meals etc.
>> >> >
>> >> In that case, I can claim that my hospital stays are free too because
>> >> I'm never billed either; but I pay for it monthly along with other
>> >> paycheck deductibles.
>> >
>> > and do people who dont have a paycheck or pay tax/deductibles, still
>> > receive the same treatment, room, food etc as you?
>>
>> There are hospitals here that will take people with no income. They get the
>> same treatment and food as everyone else.
>
> All NHS hospitals treat all UK patients regardless of their financial
>tax and contribution history; it's never even mentioned.
>
> Janet UK
Yeah, well, we have a political party here that feels 47% of the
population are hangers-on, takers, do-nothings and deserve no health
care or consideration. So they would deny them even the meanest forms
of health care. However, we do have 'not for profit' hospitals that
are not 'private' hospitals. The 'not for profit' will take anyone,
regardless of ability to pay. Of course, they will attempt to get
payment, but if not possible, they will write it off.
Janet US

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 02:54:28 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:27:07 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:12:08 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, not to Sheila if she's in a Scottish hospital. NHS pateints
> > > > > don't pay for room and food.
> > > >
> > > > You certainly do pay for it, with your taxes.
> > >
> > > Taxpayers fund the NHS; NHS patients are not billed for their room,
> > > meals etc.
> > >
> > In that case, I can claim that my hospital stays are free too because
> > I'm never billed either; but I pay for it monthly along with other
> > paycheck deductibles.
>
> and do people who dont have a paycheck or pay tax/deductibles, still
> receive the same treatment, room, food etc as you?
>
It's not a for profit hospital with multiple levels of service
depending on how much you pay. It's an HMO hospital. It's linked
with UCSF (which is linked to SF General Hospital) and I'm pretty sure
they take overflow when necessary because I know from personal
experience that it works in the other direction.

In California, people with children can insure them through the state
and often retain the same coverage they had before they lost their
job. My son was laid off 10 years ago when his department moved to
Indiana. He opted not to move for many reasons, so he remained as
part of the skeleton staff that closed down the department here and
was subsequently laid off. He was out of work for the better part of
a year and during that time, his son was seen by his old doctor at
Kaiser thanks to state coverage. Everything remained the same and it
wasn't COBRA.

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