Il 07/01/2013 18:59, Sqwertz ha scritto:

>> What are the most common fake chinese dishes served in chinese joints and
>> restaurants in your area?

> I wouldn't so they are so much as "fake" (they do eat egg rolls and
> sweet and sour pork in China), just that the recipes are highly
> modified so as not to resemble their corresponding dish in China.

Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
kicked in here?
--
Vilco
And the Family Stone
Anche un maiale puo' arrampicarsi su un albero quando e' adulato

ViLco wrote:
> Il 07/01/2013 18:59, Sqwertz ha scritto:
>
>>> What are the most common fake chinese dishes served in chinese
>>> joints and restaurants in your area?
>
>> I wouldn't so they are so much as "fake" (they do eat egg rolls and
>> sweet and sour pork in China), just that the recipes are highly
>> modified so as not to resemble their corresponding dish in China.
>
> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
> kicked in here?

Do we even *have* any Chinese people here? I do know some Chinese people
who live in this country and I don't recall them ever complaining about
something not being authentic. But my Chinese friend who lives in Malasia
certainly does. I gather that they are bigger into rules and taboos over
there though than we are here. We were talking about clothing once and she
was telling me about how the women had to dress for work. Apparently it is
still a requirement for them to wear dresses or skirts there. And how no
woman except perhaps for an elderly one would wear skin colored undies.

I also realize that here in the PNW, people are for the most part very laid
back and don't really care too much about what other people do unless of
course it infringes upon them in some way. I noticed the other day how it
is rare to see women who are just out and about wearing makeup. And it's
just about as rare to see a man wearing a suit and tie. Except for those
two Mormon guys that I see all over the place. I think they are out on a
mission or something.

On Monday, January 7, 2013 4:28:59 PM UTC-8, ViLco wrote:
>
> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>
> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>
> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>
> kicked in here?
>

You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you described and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish. Nothing is more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your prosciutto) and maake fried rice out of it. That's the same all over the U.S. and in northern Italy. -aem

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), aem >
wrote:

> On Monday, January 7, 2013 4:28:59 PM UTC-8, ViLco wrote:
> >
> > Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
> >
> > people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
> >
> > How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
> >
> > kicked in here?
> >
>
> You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you described and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish. Nothing is more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your prosciutto) and maake fried rice out of it. That's the same all over the U.S. and in northern Italy. -aem

I already tried to explain that to him, but he's got it in his head
that it's not made in China and is looking for corroboration that
isn't forthcoming.

http://ricette.giallozafferano.it/Ri...cantonese.html

"Cantonese rice is a dish of Chinese origin, very welcome and popular
in Italy, and because it is very close to European tastes and this is
why it is on the menus of many Chinese restaurants in our area."

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), aem >
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 7, 2013 4:28:59 PM UTC-8, ViLco wrote:
>>>
>>> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because
>>> of
>>>
>>> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>>>
>>> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>>>
>>> kicked in here?
>>>
>>
>> You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you
>> described and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish.
>> Nothing is more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your
>> prosciutto) and maake fried rice out of it. That's the same all
>> over the U.S. and in northern Italy. -aem
>
> I already tried to explain that to him, but he's got it in his head
> that it's not made in China and is looking for corroboration that
> isn't forthcoming.
>
> http://ricette.giallozafferano.it/Ri...cantonese.html
>
> "Cantonese rice is a dish of Chinese origin, very welcome and popular
> in Italy, and because it is very close to European tastes and this is
> why it is on the menus of many Chinese restaurants in our area."

The thing is... There is just so much fusion food today! Even if a person
was born in one place, when they move to a new place, they may not be able
to find the ingredients they are used to. So they make do with what they
can find.

Here, Mexican food is common. But it was not really on Cape Cod or in NY.
We did have a military commissary there so I could usually get what I needed
there. Although it was a very small commissary on Cape Cod so they didn't
have much selection. But... There is a very big Portugese community in MA
so that food was common. So while not all of that food is like Mexican,
much of it is similar. I could not get Jicama though. It may have been
available somewhere but not around where I lived.

aem wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2013 4:28:59 PM UTC-8, ViLco wrote:
>>
>> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>>
>> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>>
>> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>>
>> kicked in here?
>>
>
> You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you described
> and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish. Nothing is
> more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your prosciutto) and
> maake fried rice out of it. That's the same all over the U.S. and in
> northern Italy. -aem

We had a Thai neighbor who made fried rice for the kids literally every day.
She didn't necessarily make that for dinner although sometimes she ate it
herself. I think her husband must not have liked it because I never saw him
eat it. She just chopped up whatever meat she had, and added an egg. I
don't recall seeing any vegetables in hers but there may have been.

aem wrote:

>> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>> kicked in here?

> You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you described
> and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish. Nothing is
> more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your prosciutto) and
> maake fried rice out of it. That's the same all over the U.S. and in
> northern Italy. -aem

Then also my leftover frittatas are a chinese dish, or a dish from
everywhere on the planet since people uses leftovers everywhere... come on,
let's get real, we all know what we're talking about.
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On Jan 8, 6:54*am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> aem wrote:
> >> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
> >> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
> >> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
> >> kicked in here?
> > You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you described
> > and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish. *Nothing is
> > more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your prosciutto) and
> > maake fried rice out of it. *That's the same all over the U.S. and in
> > northern Italy. *-aem
>
> Then also my leftover frittatas are a chinese dish, or a dish from
> everywhere on the planet since people uses leftovers everywhere... come on,
> let's get real, we all know what we're talking about.

Here is the Japanese version of your frittata -- a way to use up odd
bits of leftovers, although this recipe calls for uncooked
ingredients. Even the name "okonomiyaki" suggests saving money and
eliminating waste:

http://okonomiyakiworld.com/best-oko...ki-recipe.html

On Jan 7, 7:41*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), aem wrote:
> > On Monday, January 7, 2013 4:28:59 PM UTC-8, ViLco wrote:
>
> >> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>
> >> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>
> >> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>
> >> kicked in here?
>
> > You didn't get an indignant response because the recipe you
> > described and the pictures you posted were in fact a Chinese dish.
> > Nothing is more Chinese than to take what's on hand (like your
> > prosciutto) and maake fried rice out of it. *That's the same all
> > over the U.S. and in northern Italy.
>
> Prosciutto is actually a very good substitute for Yunnan or Jinhua
> dry-cured ham. *Which is very common in fried rice in China.
>

But Vilco said prosciutto cotto, which is just plain old ham.

ViLco wrote:
> Il 07/01/2013 18:59, Sqwertz ha scritto:
>
>>> What are the most common fake chinese dishes served in chinese joints
>>> and
>>> restaurants in your area?
>
>> I wouldn't so they are so much as "fake" (they do eat egg rolls and
>> sweet and sour pork in China), just that the recipes are highly
>> modified so as not to resemble their corresponding dish in China.
>
> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
> kicked in here?

"Chinese food" makes as much sense as "European food".
TWofChinaIAVBP ...

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:35:44 +0100, Michael Kuettner
> wrote:

>ViLco wrote:
>> Il 07/01/2013 18:59, Sqwertz ha scritto:
>>
>>>> What are the most common fake chinese dishes served in chinese joints
>>>> and
>>>> restaurants in your area?
>>
>>> I wouldn't so they are so much as "fake" (they do eat egg rolls and
>>> sweet and sour pork in China), just that the recipes are highly
>>> modified so as not to resemble their corresponding dish in China.
>>
>> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>> kicked in here?
>
>"Chinese food" makes as much sense as "European food".

Or Italian food.

On 1/26/2013 2:35 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> ViLco wrote:
>> Il 07/01/2013 18:59, Sqwertz ha scritto:
>>
>>>> What are the most common fake chinese dishes served in chinese joints
>>>> and
>>>> restaurants in your area?
>>
>>> I wouldn't so they are so much as "fake" (they do eat egg rolls and
>>> sweet and sour pork in China), just that the recipes are highly
>>> modified so as not to resemble their corresponding dish in China.
>>
>> Now I know what RFC needs: a chinese who wil get all upset because of
>> people posting "chinese" recipes which aren't real chinese.
>> How comes that not even one in a billion and 3 hundred millions ever
>> kicked in here?
>
> "Chinese food" makes as much sense as "European food".
> TWofChinaIAVBP ...
>
Yes, there are several provinces of China with quite different tastes in
cuisine. I had a Chinese friend from Hong Kong who despised Szechuan
food; too hot and garlicky in his opinion. A lot of Chinese places try
to cater to Western tastes and serve several different regional foods,
not necessarily all that successfully. There's even one that has
"Chinese", Thai and Japanese food on its menu.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:08:06 -0500, James Silverton
> wrote:

> On 1/26/2013 2:35 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> >
> > "Chinese food" makes as much sense as "European food".
> > TWofChinaIAVBP ...
> >
> Yes, there are several provinces of China with quite different tastes in
> cuisine. I had a Chinese friend from Hong Kong who despised Szechuan
> food; too hot and garlicky in his opinion. A lot of Chinese places try
> to cater to Western tastes and serve several different regional foods,
> not necessarily all that successfully. There's even one that has
> "Chinese", Thai and Japanese food on its menu.

I've deleted the topic, but upthread someone asked about fake European
dishes or words to that effect. I just discovered today what everyone
else probably already knows... spaghetti and meatballs is an American
invention.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 1/26/2013 3:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:08:06 -0500, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/26/2013 2:35 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>> "Chinese food" makes as much sense as "European food".
>>> TWofChinaIAVBP ...
>>>
>> Yes, there are several provinces of China with quite different tastes in
>> cuisine. I had a Chinese friend from Hong Kong who despised Szechuan
>> food; too hot and garlicky in his opinion. A lot of Chinese places try
>> to cater to Western tastes and serve several different regional foods,
>> not necessarily all that successfully. There's even one that has
>> "Chinese", Thai and Japanese food on its menu.
> I've deleted the topic, but upthread someone asked about fake European
> dishes or words to that effect. I just discovered today what everyone
> else probably already knows... spaghetti and meatballs is an American
> invention.
>
Mind you, a pretty good one! I once thought that imaginative toppings
for pizza were American but I came across a lot of them in Verona twenty
years ago.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

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