On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:38:39 PM UTC-6, l not -l wrote:
> On 18-Jan-2013, wrote:
>
>
>
> > >
>
> > American cheese slices make very good grilled cheese sandwiches.
>
> In my youth, a local restaurant was famous for its great grilled cheese
>
> sandwiches. Years later, when they finally closed, it was disclosed
>
> that they used Velveeta to make their highly-regarded grilled cheese.
>
> Real butter on the bread, thick slice of Velveeta in between the bread
>
> slices, then grilled with a bacon press on top. Sometimes the secret
>
> ingredient is simply goodwill 8-)
>
In St. Louis, they make pizza with slimy process cheese. "Highly-regarded" does not imply good. A bunch of slobs grew up on it--and St. Louis has more than its share of food slobs. Ever had fried baloney and American cheese on white bread?

--Bryan

On 19 Jan 2013 13:41:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2013-01-19, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
>> He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
>> cheddars from the supermarket.
>
>I suspect it's not a case of govt cheese being as good as the
>"cheddars from the supermarket" as it is a case of the cheddars in the
>sprmkt being as crappy as govt cheese.
>
>The "decent" cheddars in the mkt have devolved into tasteless garbage,
>all of them having about as much flavor as cheap Monteray Jack, which
>is no flavor at all. Mega cheese is now so crappy they hafta add hot
>peppers and horseradish to make it even tasteable. It's no wonder
>salsa has replaced ketchup and hot sauces and peppers are more popular
>than ever. I usta think it was old age, when a person naturally loses
>some tasting ability. Now I realize it's actually food so crappy that
>it essentially has no flavor. You want flavor? You gotta pay extra.
>
>nb
that's because all the small cheese outfits have been bought up by the
mega producers. They put a pencil to it to determine the most cost
effective and efficient way to produce the cheese and something
essential is lost.
Janet US

On 2013-01-19, Janet Bostwick > wrote:

> I'm on it, going to order some really aged cheddar today.

Yep. I suddenly see some 9 yr old cheddar in my near future.

nb

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:00:30 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 04:30:25 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>>On 18-Jan-2013, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to buy that individually wrapped stuff to pill my dog.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>My dog prefers sardines for that.
>
>Mine will only take butter. Cheese, he says? That's for mice.
>Sardines are for cats.
>
>Butter. . . that's people food-- and he's a people. [And it makes
>the pill slip down easily]
>
>Jim

GSP's (German Shorthaired Pointers) prefer peanut butter, crunchy if
you have it ;o)
Janet US

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:35:33 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>z z wrote:
>>
>> Currently I buy Cabot extra sharp white cheddar from Walmart. (Cabot
>> used to also sell "seriously sharp" which I loved.)
>
>They still sell it. I bought some last week.
>
>http://www.dakinfarm.com/Seriously-Sharp.html

I looked in the Walmart in my city specifically to find Cabot extra
sharp white cheddar and they don't carry it. I was really
disappointed. Since you say you can get it where you are, it must be
on the Walmart ordering list -- I'll ask here if they will get it for
me.
Janet US

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:47:57 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
>> On 1/18/2013 11:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>> On 18-Jan-2013, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to buy that individually wrapped stuff to pill my dog.
>>
>>> My dog prefers sardines for that.
>>
>> That's a fancy dog! Heh. Mean mommy, I bought her the cheap
>> cheese stuff I wouldn't eat.
>
>Fancy dog indeed My old dog (16+) has been off her food for a wee while,
>so I was cooking chicken for her for a while until she turned up her nose at
>that too Oh the good side, she loves the new meat loaf I made one
>today for her with no onions
>--
You've fostered her taste for international cuisine? Now you're in
for it!
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:47:57 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
>>> On 1/18/2013 11:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>> On 18-Jan-2013, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I used to buy that individually wrapped stuff to pill my dog.
>>>
>>>> My dog prefers sardines for that.
>>>
>>> That's a fancy dog! Heh. Mean mommy, I bought her the cheap
>>> cheese stuff I wouldn't eat.
>>
>>Fancy dog indeed My old dog (16+) has been off her food for a wee
>>while,
>>so I was cooking chicken for her for a while until she turned up her nose
>>at
>>that too Oh the good side, she loves the new meat loaf I made one
>>today for her with no onions
>>--
> You've fostered her taste for international cuisine? Now you're in
> for it!

lol I know!!!!!!!! Heck I don't care so long as she eats She's worth
it

--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:57:58 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 1/18/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Mostly, but not always. Remember when President Ronnie decided to
>> empty the warehouses and give away cheese? The senior centers were
>> giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
>> He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
>> cheddars from the supermarket. If all were that good, we'd not have
>> this thread going.
>
>
>My family got government cheese back in the 50's and early 60's. I
>remember it being more like Velveta. We ate a lot of macaroni and
>cheese in those days.
>
>George L

Most of it was, this happened to be a fluke in the system. It was
just that one batch.

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 18-Jan-2013, wrote:
>
>> >
>> American cheese slices make very good grilled cheese sandwiches.
> In my youth, a local restaurant was famous for its great grilled cheese
> sandwiches. Years later, when they finally closed, it was disclosed
> that they used Velveeta to make their highly-regarded grilled cheese.
> Real butter on the bread, thick slice of Velveeta in between the bread
> slices, then grilled with a bacon press on top. Sometimes the secret
> ingredient is simply goodwill 8-)
> --
>
> Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

Been trying to figure out the recipe of a local pizza joint for over a
decade.

I'm starting to wonder if the "secret ingredient" might actually be
government cheese.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"sf" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:40:54 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
> On 18-Jan-2013, wrote:
>
> > Kraft "Deli Deluxe" is good too. I tried Kroger brand one time and
> > didn't like it at all. It had a strange aftertaste.
> Deli Deluxe is much better than the other Kraft Americans; but, L o' L
> is much better, IMO.

Okay, I'll buy whichever one I find first. If I buy Kraft first and
like it, I'll look for LoL. If I find LoL first and don't like it, I
won't bother looking for Kraft.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I like Kraft for grilled cheese sandwiches. I like "real" cheese for
snacking, although Kraft cubes is pretty good.

MaryL

Cabot Extra Sharp is sold in my Super-Walmart, but not my "regular"
Walmart and Sams Club doesnt sell this one but sells other Cabot
cheeses.

I always have to search because it is on the far edge of all the block
cheeses down on a bottom row and it doesnt jump out at you the way the
orangy cheeses do. It is not sized like sandwich cheese slices. It is
1inch by 2inch by 5inch.

Oddly enough my "regular" Walmart (and Sams Club) is where I buy my
Treasures of the Sea Lightly Breaded Flounder that I love, but it is
never sold in my SuperWalmart. My usual grocery shopping experience is
to go to 3 different stores.

On 2013-01-19 12:35:29 +0000, dsi1 said:

>>> That's pretty smug. The Swiss invented process cheese and the French
>>> make the very popular "La vache qui rit" known to us as "Laughing Cow"
>>> cheese. American cheese should be called "European Cheese." :-)
>>
>> If she lives in SwitzerlandnearFrance and is a cheese fan, I think
>> smugness is the only acceptable attitude. Arrogant would even be more
>> downright logical. If I lived in SwitzerlandnearFrance or in France I
>> wouldn't sully myself with the lot of you, but instead be stuffing my
>> gullet.
>
> Processed cheese food/spread/material might be just the thing...

No, I don't like that stuff, but instead loath it. They also invented
the cuckoo clock too, but I won't eat that either.

On 2013-01-19 02:15:38 +0000, said:

> On Jan 18, 3:17*pm, "Cheri" > wrote:
>>
>> "Susan" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>> On 1/18/2013 3:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>>> I love American Cheese.
>>
>>> ACK!!! *;-)
>>
>>> Susan
>>
>> LOL, the only thing better than one slice, is two slices.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> American cheese slices make very good grilled cheese sandwiches.

It melts well. But then you're expected to EAT it!

blotclot wrote:

> I've tried Tillamook American cheese. It's no better than Kraft,
> which has become essentially tasteless.

Look for New Yorker or Land o' Lakes.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013011907485868524-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-19 02:15:38 +0000, said:
>
>> On Jan 18, 3:17 pm, "Cheri" > wrote:
>>>
>>> "Susan" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2013 3:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I love American Cheese.
>>>
>>>> ACK!!! ;-)
>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>
>>> LOL, the only thing better than one slice, is two slices.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>> American cheese slices make very good grilled cheese sandwiches.
>
> It melts well. But then you're expected to EAT it!

lol

--
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On 1/19/2013 9:44 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/18/2013 11:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 18-Jan-2013, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to buy that individually wrapped stuff to pill my dog.
>
>> My dog prefers sardines for that.
>
> That's a fancy dog! Heh. Mean mommy, I bought her the cheap
> cheese stuff I wouldn't eat.
>
> nancy
>
Same here. My dog Sampson wasn't a cheese connoisseur. He'd scarf that
cheap cheese down with the pill without even realizing he was being pilled.

Cats are trickier. For a short while, when I had to pill Persia, she
fell for Greenie's pill-pockets.

http://www.greenies.com/cats.aspx#/p...t-pill-pockets

Persia loved those Greenies! Mmmm, tasty! I'd roll them into tiny
balls with the little pills in the middle. She didn't know she'd been
pilled. But after a few painless pillings she realized, wait a minute,
why am I getting yummy these treats twice a day? I never used to give
her treats. So she nibbled off the outside of the pill-pocket and
discovered the pill in the middle. Most cats aren't stupid. She
doesn't trust me with just plain cat treats anymore.

Jill

On 19 Jan 2013 13:41:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2013-01-19, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
> > He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
> > cheddars from the supermarket.
>
> I suspect it's not a case of govt cheese being as good as the
> "cheddars from the supermarket" as it is a case of the cheddars in the
> sprmkt being as crappy as govt cheese.

I tasted gov't brick cheese once and it was far better than any
grocery store "American" cheese I'd ever had since I was a kid back in
the days before individually wrapped Kraft singles were invented.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/19/2013 9:44 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 1/18/2013 11:30 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>> On 18-Jan-2013, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to buy that individually wrapped stuff to pill my dog.
>>
>>> My dog prefers sardines for that.
>>
>> That's a fancy dog! Heh. Mean mommy, I bought her the cheap
>> cheese stuff I wouldn't eat.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> Same here. My dog Sampson wasn't a cheese connoisseur. He'd scarf that
> cheap cheese down with the pill without even realizing he was being
> pilled.
>
> Cats are trickier. For a short while, when I had to pill Persia, she fell
> for Greenie's pill-pockets.
>
> http://www.greenies.com/cats.aspx#/p...t-pill-pockets
>
> Persia loved those Greenies! Mmmm, tasty! I'd roll them into tiny balls
> with the little pills in the middle. She didn't know she'd been pilled.
> But after a few painless pillings she realized, wait a minute, why am I
> getting yummy these treats twice a day? I never used to give her treats.
> So she nibbled off the outside of the pill-pocket and discovered the pill
> in the middle. Most cats aren't stupid. She doesn't trust me with just
> plain cat treats anymore.

lol sounds like my dog) I have to keep changing the stuff I put her pills
in.

--
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:25:01 -0600, "MaryL"
> wrote:

> "sf" wrote in message ...
>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:40:54 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
> >
> > On 18-Jan-2013, wrote:
> >
> > > Kraft "Deli Deluxe" is good too. I tried Kroger brand one time and
> > > didn't like it at all. It had a strange aftertaste.
> > Deli Deluxe is much better than the other Kraft Americans; but, L o' L
> > is much better, IMO.
>
> Okay, I'll buy whichever one I find first. If I buy Kraft first and
> like it, I'll look for LoL. If I find LoL first and don't like it, I
> won't bother looking for Kraft.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I like Kraft for grilled cheese sandwiches. I like "real" cheese for
> snacking, although Kraft cubes is pretty good.
>
> MaryL

For some reason, my news reader has taken your line of ~~~~~~~~ as a
sig delineator and won't copy it to a reply unless I copy. So, now
you have two reasons to find a real news reader. But I digress.
I have plenty of snacking and cooking cheeses on hand. This
discussion was about American Cheese, not how hoity toity and refined
my cheese selection is and I'm not interested in playing a game of
cheese one upsmanship the way certain posters in this thread are
doing. I'm interested this thread because the subject of American
Cheese, not "I like X than American". To be honest, I've never tried
Kraft cubes... didn't even know they existed. Are they in the same
"better" category of American cheese that the slices are in or better
than that?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:41:44 AM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-01-19, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>
>
> > giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
>
> > He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
>
> > cheddars from the supermarket.
>
>
>
> I suspect it's not a case of govt cheese being as good as the
>
> "cheddars from the supermarket" as it is a case of the cheddars in the
>
> sprmkt being as crappy as govt cheese.
>
>
>
> The "decent" cheddars in the mkt have devolved into tasteless garbage,
>
> all of them having about as much flavor as cheap Monteray Jack, which
>
> is no flavor at all. Mega cheese is now so crappy they hafta add hot
>
> peppers and horseradish to make it even tasteable. It's no wonder
>
> salsa has replaced ketchup and hot sauces and peppers are more popular
>
> than ever.

But most people go for the crappy jarred salsa that is even worse than ketchup.

> I usta think it was old age, when a person naturally loses
>
> some tasting ability. Now I realize it's actually food so crappy that
>
> it essentially has no flavor.

It's probably both, but there are still decent cheeses for decent prices. Trader Joe's is nice for that.

> You want flavor? You gotta pay extra.
>
Well, sure. Reggiano costs more than Kraft. That reminds me, I have a block of that in the fridge. I cut it into tiny pieces, or grate it and use it like chewin' tebaccy.
>
> nb

--Bryan

Agree with you Tara..love the stuff. Think this is what we are lookng for.

LAND O LAKES® Extra Melt® Process American Cheese Loaf, Yellow, 6/5 lb. :: By SKU :: Products :: Land O'Lakes Foodservice

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:19:27 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>I have compared most things to other things, and I like what I like. For
>instance, I like Spam and Miracle Whip, nobody else in my family really
>cares much for them.

Do you mean Spam and Miracle Whip together? I like Spam with all
sorts of condiments but not with anything mayo-like.

On 1/19/2013 11:18 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Do you mean Spam and Miracle Whip together? I like Spam with all
> sorts of condiments but not with anything mayo-like.

I had a friend in college whose Mom would grind up Spam, mix it with
shredded cheese, a little pickle relish and some Mayo. Spread it on rye
bread and broiled until the cheese melted.

It tasted better than it sounds... but that isn't saying much.

George L

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:57:58 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 1/18/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Mostly, but not always. Remember when President Ronnie decided to
>> empty the warehouses and give away cheese? The senior centers were
>> giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
>> He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
>> cheddars from the supermarket. If all were that good, we'd not have
>> this thread going.
>
>
>My family got government cheese back in the 50's and early 60's. I
>remember it being more like Velveta. We ate a lot of macaroni and
>cheese in those days.

Cheddar has to be my least favorite of all the common cheeses, I'd
never buy any... I much prefer Velveeta to any cheddar. My favorite
cheese is Jarlsburg.

"sf" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:25:01 -0600, "MaryL"
> wrote:

> "sf" wrote in message ...
>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:40:54 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
> >
> > On 18-Jan-2013, wrote:
> >
> > > Kraft "Deli Deluxe" is good too. I tried Kroger brand one time and
> > > didn't like it at all. It had a strange aftertaste.
> > Deli Deluxe is much better than the other Kraft Americans; but, L o' L
> > is much better, IMO.
>
> Okay, I'll buy whichever one I find first. If I buy Kraft first and
> like it, I'll look for LoL. If I find LoL first and don't like it, I
> won't bother looking for Kraft.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I like Kraft for grilled cheese sandwiches. I like "real" cheese for
> snacking, although Kraft cubes is pretty good.
>
> MaryL

For some reason, my news reader has taken your line of ~~~~~~~~ as a
sig delineator and won't copy it to a reply unless I copy. So, now
you have two reasons to find a real news reader. But I digress.
I have plenty of snacking and cooking cheeses on hand. This
discussion was about American Cheese, not how hoity toity and refined
my cheese selection is and I'm not interested in playing a game of
cheese one upsmanship the way certain posters in this thread are
doing. I'm interested this thread because the subject of American
Cheese, not "I like X than American". To be honest, I've never tried
Kraft cubes... didn't even know they existed. Are they in the same
"better" category of American cheese that the slices are in or better
than that?

~~~~~~~
I would say "better than that" (IMO). The bite-size cubes come in several
varieties--cheddar, colby, etc., and they're handy to serve at bridge games
(or while sitting in front of the TV).

I have given up on looking for newsreaders. Thunderbird was a disaster for
me, and I don't want to spend hours learning and setting up a program for
NGs. WLM has a lot of defects (most notably an inability to mark quoted
text, so I end up using other end-of-text markers), but I only use it for
newsgroups--never for mail or other purposes.

MaryL

sf wrote:

> Really? I'll look for it and buy a package then. Can't stand that
> "food product" crud. I wonder who buys it and why?

Gee, I don't know. I'm sure every consumer in the entire market is only
interested in the best possible product and doesn't care a whit about saving a
little bit of change on a purchase. And it's a certainty that every child of
every consumer can instantly tell when Mommy sneaks a slice of "cheese food"
into the kiddies' sandwiches.

A real mystery, that is.

wrote:
>
> In another thread, people mentioned "yellow cheese" and
> "white cheese", which is incomprehensible to me.
> The cheesaholic in me is glad to be living in Switzerland
> and near France.

There is a far great proportion of processed and fake cheese
manufactured and consumed in Switzerland, France, and other Euro
contries than in the US. Most of the premium Euro cheeses are
exported, primarily to the US, most of the European populous consumes
crappy cheeses, as well as other lower quality foods/beverage. This
is true of all countries, their highest quality products are exported,
to wherever on the planet they'll bring the most profit.

On 1/19/2013 9:45 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:28:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:32:56 -0700, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I used to love to visit northern Wisconsin near Green Bay. There was
>>> a cheddar there marketed as 'Steve's Cheese.' Man, that was good
>>> stuff, Crumbly, creamy, sharp without ammonia. Lovely, lovely stuff.
>>> I wonder if it is still around.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> http://www.stevescheese.com/
>>
>> Order some, no reason not to still enjoy it.
>
> Bless you, it didn't occur to me until I was in bed last night that I
> should check the 'Net and by this morning I had forgotten.
> I'm on it, going to order some really aged cheddar today.
> Janet US
>
I'm having a browse and my mouth is watering! Have you tried their
swiss almond cheese spread? There's a place in OC MD that has a GREAT
one but I'm a little hesitant to order from their web site. The first
time I loaded their page I was put into someone elses shopping cart.
They seemed to have bad security on their content caching. But when I
go back their I'll get some.

Susan wrote:

> > Currently I buy Cabot extra sharp white cheddar from Walmart. (Cabot
> > used to also sell "seriously sharp" which I loved.)
>
> I saw it at Costco this week, they must still be making it.

It's in supermarkets here (Va.). Pretty good, but pretty expensive.

My Wisconsin bias will now show. If you wish to find extraordinary cheeses, there are many to be found in WI and most one can order online. Somone on here said you couldn't get a cheddar beyond 2 years of age. Bull droppings!! You can get 7 and 10 year old cheddar. Dig around and you will find it.

Might I pitch my local cheese factory Wisconsin cheese, La Crosse cheese making, Cashton cheese production, Pasture Pride Cheese, goat cheese. Their cheeses are made from Amish milk. I'd put their Muenster against anyone's and they also make great Juusto. the italian herb Juusto is heaven. California cows might look happier; but that's because of the weed growing there.

On 1/19/2013 5:47 AM, gtr wrote:
> No, I don't like that stuff, but instead loath it. They also invented
> the cuckoo clock too, but I won't eat that either.

I understood that. My point was that if you were going to stuff gullet,
you're gonna need filler material.

Got the site book marked. The prices look real reasonable Thanks. Now if we cold only teach the Wisconsinites how to make passable Brats..lol.

On 2013-01-19, Susan > wrote:

> I think that must be what replaced the Private Stock, since that, the
> seriously sharp and 3 year Cabot cheddars were all there. In my Costco,
> the seriously sharp is new to the warehouse.

It used to be 5 yr old cheddar was pretty scarce. Now, more and more
companies are starting to realize folks are willing to pay for
flavor. So, they are beginning to age their cheese longer. If ppl
are willing to pay $20+ for imported Parmesan, perhaps $15 lb for 5 yr
old cheddar is not such a stretch. Glad to see it.

nb

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:22:44 +0000, Gorio
> wrote:

>
>Janet Bostwick;1805211 Wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:28:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> -
>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:32:56 -0700, Janet Bostwick
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> I used to love to visit northern Wisconsin near Green Bay. There was
>> a cheddar there marketed as 'Steve's Cheese.' Man, that was good
>> stuff, Crumbly, creamy, sharp without ammonia. Lovely, lovely stuff.
>> I wonder if it is still around.
>> Janet US-
>>
>> 'Steve's Cheese' (http://www.stevescheese.com/)
>>
>> Order some, no reason not to still enjoy it. -
>>
>> Bless you, it didn't occur to me until I was in bed last night that I
>> should check the 'Net and by this morning I had forgotten.
>> I'm on it, going to order some really aged cheddar today.
>> Janet US
>
>My Wisconsin bias will now show. If you wish to find extraordinary
>cheeses, there are many to be found in WI and most one can order online.
>Somone on here said you couldn't get a cheddar beyond 2 years of age.
>Bull droppings!! You can get 7 and 10 year old cheddar. Dig around and
>you will find it.
>
>Might I pitch my local cheese factory 'Wisconsin cheese, La Crosse
>cheese making, Cashton cheese production, Pasture Pride Cheese, goat
>cheese' (http://www.pasturepridecheese.com/). Their cheeses are made
>from Amish milk. I'd put their Muenster against anyone's and they also
>make great Juusto. the italian herb Juusto is heaven. California cows
>might look happier; but that's because of the weed growing there.

I was born and raised in Wisconsin, I really never knew that you
bought cheese at the grocery store. Every county had a cheese factory
out on a county road somewhere. Often a Sunday afternoon drive would
take us there. You'd take your own blue/green Mason jar with the zinc
cap along and have them spoon it full of cream that was the thickness
of mayonnaise. I didn't know that anyone would eat cheese that was
less than a couple years old. Sometimes the cheese would make your
lips sting and turn red. The woman behind the counter always had the
longest, biggest knife I had ever seen and she would cut a wedge or
block from whatever cheese you wanted. There'd be muenster with a
skin so soft and runny that you couldn't get the smell off of your
fingers. And big rounds of blue that was so creamy it was spread
able. Then she would dip it in melted wax and wrap it in butcher
paper and tie with string. No cheese is ever going to taste as good
as my memories.

Janet US

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:11:43 +0000, bigwheel
> wrote:

>
>Gorio;1805218 Wrote:
>> My Wisconsin bias will now show. If you wish to find because of the
>> weed growing there.
>
>Got the site book marked. The prices look real reasonable Thanks. Now if
>we cold only teach the Wisconsinites how to make passable Brats..lol.

I've said this before. Brats are a regional flavor preference. I
personally do no care for any that come from outside my area of
Wisconsin. If you look at the German sausage and baking influences
from the countries around them, you will see why texture, seasonings
and color vary so much.
Janet US

On 19 Jan 2013 20:18:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2013-01-19, Susan > wrote:
>
>> I think that must be what replaced the Private Stock, since that, the
>> seriously sharp and 3 year Cabot cheddars were all there. In my Costco,
>> the seriously sharp is new to the warehouse.
>
>It used to be 5 yr old cheddar was pretty scarce. Now, more and more
>companies are starting to realize folks are willing to pay for
>flavor. So, they are beginning to age their cheese longer. If ppl
>are willing to pay $20+ for imported Parmesan, perhaps $15 lb for 5 yr
>old cheddar is not such a stretch. Glad to see it.
>
>nb
Doesn't it just amaze you when the label says "Aged" and then in fine
print it says '6 months?'
Janet US

ahhh Wisconsin brats-a fond memory. Relatives brought them to us once. I
never liked hot dogs, polish sausage, etc but those brats were
spectacular and I think came from their local butcher-so a local home
grown product so to speak.

The grind was rough, the meat/casing were whiteish grayish the
seasonings were strong-spectacular.

When I grew up and first lived on my own, I couldn't wait to buy brats
at the grocery store-major disappointment.

Since then I tried every brat sold commercially in my stores-none of
them were anything like those Wisconsin brats--and it had nothing to do
with boiling in beer.

On Jan 18, 10:33*pm, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:09:40 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I don't think we've had American cheese in the house in 10 years.
> >_Anything_ is better on an _anything_ than that stuff.
>
> Mostly, but not always. *Remember when President Ronnie decided to
> empty the warehouses and give away cheese? *The senior centers were
> giving the stuff away and my FIL got a 5# box every couple of months.
> He gave us a chunk of it from one box and it was as good as the decent
> cheddars from the supermarket. *If all were that good, we'd not have
> this thread going.

My uncle knew someone who worked at a distribution center that gave
out that government cheese. He gave my uncle several boxes of it
who in turn gave it out to his friends and family. We got a box of
it. It wasn't bad. It was definitely better than those individually
wrapped singles. We all refered to it as "Welfare cheese."

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:35:29 -0600, (z z) wrote:

>ahhh Wisconsin brats-a fond memory. Relatives brought them to us once. I
>never liked hot dogs, polish sausage, etc but those brats were
>spectacular and I think came from their local butcher-so a local home
>grown product so to speak.
>
>The grind was rough, the meat/casing were whiteish grayish the
>seasonings were strong-spectacular.
>
>When I grew up and first lived on my own, I couldn't wait to buy brats
>at the grocery store-major disappointment.
>
>Since then I tried every brat sold commercially in my stores-none of
>them were anything like those Wisconsin brats--and it had nothing to do
>with boiling in beer.
No one ever boiled them in beer when I was growing up. What they did
do was put a small amount of beer in the bottom of a large pot, so
that when they were grilling for a crowd, they could drop the brats
and burgers in to keep warm without the pan going dry and burning the
food.
I guess some people thought if a little is good a lot is more better.
Janet US

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:40:44 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> > We do have other cheeses here besides American, thank goodness!
>
> American has it's uses. There are other cheeses I like to order on my
> restaurant burgers, but American is still the gold standard for
> backyard burgers.

The only time I get it is with fast food, not being able to choose. Why
ever use it at home?


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