Ophelia wrote:

> On 09/05/2021 15:15, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/8/2021 7:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Michael Trew wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 5/6/2021 6:04 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > > Kalmia wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is it the d/w 'soap'?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm on the hunt for a 2 quart saucepan which will cover the
> > > > > > small burner.Â* I have read that the new Farberware 2 quart
> > > > > > does not.Â*Â* I DON'T want a nonstick.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, is the new Farberware made in USA?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ebay may be my best bet for a vintage pot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now.Â* Thank
> > > > > you."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I the only one that doesn't understand the "Ask them, theyre
> > > > here" thing?Â* What the hell is that, other than obnoxious?
> > >
> > > It's a sort of troll thing to do that but a few non-trolls do it
> > > at times.Â* Just use the 'next key' since it's useless drivel.Â*
> > > Think about it, if the person wanted to answer, they will.
> > >
> > I sincerely doubt Kalmia is going to jump in after all these years.
> >
> > Jill
>
> ==
>
> Yes) Not after all these years))))

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Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2021 jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I was sorry to hear you only have three house cats now. I've never
> > given either of my cats "people food". BTW, thanks for the call
> > the other day and the email about Buffy.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Time does them in same as people. We lost Jilly a few months ago,
> kidney failure, she gave us 19 wonderful years. I think about her
> every day, she'll never be forgotten. She's at rest between two of
> our favorite long lived trees; a Gingko and an Acer Grisium (paper
> bark maple)... Gingkos can live 3,000 years.
> https://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/
> https://postimg.cc/ThGBjXx8
>
> I'm glad to hear that Buffy is still doing well... keep giving her the
> meds.
>
> Sheldon

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jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/8/2021 12:13 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 May 2021 10:53:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/8/2021 10:02 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > On 07/05/2021 21:52, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > On 5/6/2021 11:42 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/6/2021 6:04 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > > > > Kalmia wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it the d/w 'soap'?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm on the hunt for a 2 quart saucepan which will cover
> > > > > > > > the small burner.Â* I have read that the new Farberware
> > > > > > > > 2 quart does not.Â*Â* I DON'T want a nonstick.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, is the new Farberware made in USA?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ebay may be my best bet for a vintage pot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now.Â*
> > > > > > > Thank you."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I the only one that doesn't understand the "Ask them,
> > > > > > theyre here" thing?Â* What the hell is that, other than
> > > > > > obnoxious?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's definitely obnoxious, especially since the quote post
> > > > > from "Kalmia" is apparently a couple of decades old.Â* Kalmia
> > > > > hasn't posted to this newsgroup in years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > ====
> > > >
> >>> Â*Yes, many years!Â* I must admit I did a double take when I saw
> that name
> > > >
> > > Yep! It's entirely possible Kalmia posted about Calphalon
> > > cookware years ago but if you scroll up the post also indicates I
> > > wrote a reply on 07/05/2021 - what?! Today is 05/08/2021. Gee,
> > > I didn't know I owned a time machine!
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > My ancient two qt Farberware plain SS pan is one of my handiest,
> > lives on my stove... perfect size for the small burner. I don't
> > own any non-stick coated cookware except for my jumbo Chicago
> > muffin tins that I use often and a non-stick coated cast iron
> > gingerbread house mold that I rarely use. The Farberware set came
> > with a one quart pot that's too small for cooking but works for
> > scooping bird seed.
> >
> LOL My mother's 1950's Revere came with a couple of stainless steel
> measuring cups with measurements marked inside. She used to use the
> larger one occasionally to pour out pancake batter or waffle batter
> (I know, you don't like those things... I'm talking 1965-ish when she
> was occasionally making breakfast for Dad, my brothers and me,
> usually on a Sunday.) I use the larger measure now to refill the
> small bird bath on the patio. The slightly smaller stainless
> measuring cup I use to pour fresh water into Buffy's water bowl every
> day.
>
> I have a couple of ancient small non-stick skillets I use for
> scrambled eggs or the occasional omelet. They haven't killed me yet.
> I rarely use muffin tins except when I make the occasional batch
> of oven-ready Hodgson's Mill bran muffins. I posted the recipe for
> those not so long ago.
>
> Cast iron, yep. A small skillet used only for small steaks or a
> hamburger. A skillet dedicated to (Southern) cornbread. A slightly
> larger one I rarely use. Oh, and a cast iron griddle that belonged
> to my maternal grandmother. She used it to bake scones. I've used
> it for that but rarely.
>
> Jill

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On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:36:32 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> Gingkos can live 3,000 years.

Plus, they are the only plants that produce sperm cells.

On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been using
> Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware that dates
> back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in it. I've never
> had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron skillets and small
> non-stick skillets but ultimately the old Revereware works for everything.
>
> Jill

Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron pans
that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle. My
antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.

Michael Trew wrote:

> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
> > using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
> > that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
> > it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
> > skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
> > Revereware works for everything.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.

And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
even make the connection.

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On 09/05/2021 18:09, Ophelia wrote:
> On 09/05/2021 15:15, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/8/2021 7:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/2021 6:04 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>>> Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it the d/w 'soap'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm on the hunt for a 2 quart saucepan which will cover the small
>>>>>> burner.Â* I have read that the new Farberware 2 quart does not.Â*Â* I
>>>>>> DON'T want a nonstick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, is the new Farberware made in USA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ebay may be my best bet for a vintage pot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now.Â* Thank you."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only one that doesn't understand the "Ask them, theyre here"
>>>> thing?Â* What the hell is that, other than obnoxious?
>>>
>>> It's a sort of troll thing to do that but a few non-trolls do it at
>>> times.Â* Just use the 'next key' since it's useless drivel.Â* Think about
>>> it, if the person wanted to answer, they will.
>>>
>> I sincerely doubt Kalmia is going to jump in after all these years.
>>
>> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Â* Yes)Â* Not after all these years))))
>

no!REC

Sheldon wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >I was sorry to hear you only have three house cats now. I've never
> >given either of my cats "people food". BTW, thanks for the call the
> >other day and the email about Buffy.
> >
> >Jill
> Time does them in same as people. We lost Jilly a few months ago,
> kidney failure, she gave us 19 wonderful years. I think about her
> every day, she'll never be forgotten. She's at rest between two of
> our favorite long lived trees; a Gingko and an Acer Grisium (paper
> bark maple)... Gingkos can live 3,000 years.
> https://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/
> https://postimg.cc/ThGBjXx8


A lovely Jilly memory, thanks for sharing!

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Ophelia wrote:

> On 09/05/2021 18:09, Ophelia wrote:
> > On 09/05/2021 15:15, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 5/8/2021 7:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Michael Trew wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 5/6/2021 6:04 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > > > Kalmia wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it the d/w 'soap'?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm on the hunt for a 2 quart saucepan which will cover
> > > > > > > the small burner.Â* I have read that the new Farberware 2
> > > > > > > quart does not.Â*Â* I DON'T want a nonstick.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, is the new Farberware made in USA?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ebay may be my best bet for a vintage pot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now.Â*
> > > > > > Thank you."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I the only one that doesn't understand the "Ask them,
> > > > > theyre here" thing?Â* What the hell is that, other than
> > > > > obnoxious?
> > > >
> > > > It's a sort of troll thing to do that but a few non-trolls do
> > > > it at times.Â* Just use the 'next key' since it's useless
> > > > drivel.Â* Think about it, if the person wanted to answer, they
> > > > will.
> > > >
> > > I sincerely doubt Kalmia is going to jump in after all these
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Â* Yes)Â* Not after all these years))))
> >
>
> no!REC

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GM wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 May 2021 jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > I was sorry to hear you only have three house cats now. I've
> > > never given either of my cats "people food". BTW, thanks for the
> > > call the other day and the email about Buffy.
> > >
> > > Jill
> > Time does them in same as people. We lost Jilly a few months ago,
> > kidney failure, she gave us 19 wonderful years. I think about her
> > every day, she'll never be forgotten. She's at rest between two of
> > our favorite long lived trees; a Gingko and an Acer Grisium (paper
> > bark maple)... Gingkos can live 3,000 years.
> > https://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/
> > https://postimg.cc/ThGBjXx8
>
>
> A lovely Jilly memory, thanks for sharing!

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Joie MacDonalds wrote:

> Michael Trew wrote:
>
> > On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
> > > using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
> > > that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
> > > it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast
> > > iron skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
> > > Revereware works for everything.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
> > Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll
> > never use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast
> > iron pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum
> > griddle. My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as
> > well.
>
> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You
> won't even make the connection.

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On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>
> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
> even make the connection.
>
Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
planning to cook) in their kitchen?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> > Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
> > > > using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's
> > > > Revereware that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't
> > > > interested in it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do
> > > > have some cast iron skillets and small non-stick skillets but
> > > > ultimately the old Revereware works for everything.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to
> > > me. Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff!
> > > I'll never use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a
> > > couple cast iron pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old
> > > aluminum griddle. My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum
> > > griddle as well.
> >
> > And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
> > kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You
> > won't even make the connection.
> >
> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck
> they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?

A little tweety bird in the corner to keep us company?

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Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's
>>>>> Revereware that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't
>>>>> interested in it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do
>>>>> have some cast iron skillets and small non-stick skillets but
>>>>> ultimately the old Revereware works for everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to
>>>> me. Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff!
>>>> I'll never use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a
>>>> couple cast iron pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old
>>>> aluminum griddle. My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum
>>>> griddle as well.
>>>
>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You
>>> won't even make the connection.
>>>
>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck
>> they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>
> A little tweety bird in the corner to keep us company?
>

In your case master, a vulture for you to sniff it's cloaca.

On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
>>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>
>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>> even make the connection.
>>
>Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>
>Jill


I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.

I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.

On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
>>>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
>>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
>>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
>>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>>
>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>>> even make the connection.
>>>
>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>> planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>
> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
>
>
I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my adult
life. I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed her when I
moved to South Carolina). They weren't necessarily close to the kitchen
but there was a fairly open concept between the kitchen, dining and
their cage Nothing I cooked nor any cookware I ever used harmed them.
My parakeets tended to live to be about 15 years old.

Jill

Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> >> Michael Trew wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
> >>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's
> Revereware >>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't
> interested in >>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do
> have some cast iron >>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but
> ultimately the old >>>> Revereware works for everything.
> > > > >
> >>>> Jill
> > > >
> >>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to
> me. >>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff!
> I'll never >>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a
> couple cast iron >>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old
> aluminum griddle. >>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum
> griddle as well. >>
> >> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from
> the >> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower.
> You won't >> even make the connection.
> >>
> > Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck
> > they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>
> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.

Maybe there was enough ventilation or enough distance. Here's a Google
search:

<https://www.google.com/search?q=non+stick+pans+birds>

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On 5/10/2021 9:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware.Â* I've been
>>>>>> using Revereware for 40 years.Â* I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>>>> that dates back to the 1950's.Â* My brothers weren't interested in
>>>>>> it.Â* I've never had to replace any of it.Â* I do have some cast iron
>>>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom.Â* Good stuff!Â* I'll never
>>>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again.Â* I do have a couple cast iron
>>>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>>>
>>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>>>> even make the connection.
>>>>
>>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>>> planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
>> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
>> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>>
>> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
>> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
>>
>>
> I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my adult
> life.Â* I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed her when I
> moved to South Carolina).Â* They weren't necessarily close to the kitchen
> but there was a fairly open concept between the kitchen, dining and
> their cageÂ* Nothing I cooked nor any cookware I ever used harmed them.
> My parakeets tended to live to be about 15 years old.
>
> Jill
>

Perhaps you know how to cook. The biggest problems is when the pan is
overheated it can give off fumes. IIRC it is 450 deg. or more. Under
normal circumstances you never get that high.

I understand newer coating can go well above that.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/10/2021 9:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> > > On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> > > > > Michael Trew wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > > I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware.Â*
> > > > > > > I've been using Revereware for 40 years.Â* I also have my
> > > > > > > mother's Revereware that dates back to the 1950's.Â* My
> > > > > > > brothers weren't interested in it.Â* I've never had to
> > > > > > > replace any of it.Â* I do have some cast iron skillets and
> > > > > > > small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
> > > > > > > Revereware works for everything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was
> > > > > > given to me. Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom.Â*
> > > > > > Good stuff!Â* I'll never use or own a "non stick" pan
> > > > > > again.Â* I do have a couple cast iron pans that I use, as
> > > > > > well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle. My antique
> > > > > > stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away
> > > > > from the kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but
> > > > > much slower. You won't even make the connection.
> > > > >
> > > > Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or
> > > > duck they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> > > I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the
> > > kitchen and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago
> > > various They have all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
> > >
> > > I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from
> > > non-stick cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
> > >
> > >
> > I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my
> > adult life.Â* I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed
> > her when I moved to South Carolina).Â* They weren't necessarily
> > close to the kitchen but there was a fairly open concept between
> > the kitchen, dining and their cageÂ* Nothing I cooked nor any
> > cookware I ever used harmed them. My parakeets tended to live to
> > be about 15 years old.
> >
> > Jill
> >
>
> Perhaps you know how to cook. The biggest problems is when the pan
> is overheated it can give off fumes. IIRC it is 450 deg. or more.
> Under normal circumstances you never get that high.
>
> I understand newer coating can go well above that.

There's a lot of uncertainty about "newer coating" because
manufacturers aren't telling us everything. They don't want to worry
the sheeple.

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Joie MacDonalds hamburger wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You
>>> won't even make the connection.
>>>
>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck
>> they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>
> A little tweety bird in the corner to keep us company?

That's what my maternal grandmother had. Very large eat-in kitchen and
she spent most of her time there. The kitchen was her domain. She had a
parakeet that she talked to often. No non-stick pans though.