jkil wrote:
>
> Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
> faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>
> Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win an
> election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a coward, a
> traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
> thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END in
> our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while they
> continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>
> God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
> with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
> We can help them leave.
>
> No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
> entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>
> Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the
> new Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.



Troll or Butthead, you decide....

gloria p

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:47:00 -0800, jkil > Screamed
something into the void that sounded like:

>gman99 wrote:
>> jkil > wrote:
>>
>>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>
>>
>> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
>> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that the
>> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
>> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ?? Screw
>> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
>Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
>ruining everything.

I am sure that is true.

"Mack®" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:47:00 -0800, jkil > Screamed
> something into the void that sounded like:
>
> >gman99 wrote:
> >> jkil > wrote:
> >>
> >>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has
his
> >>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> >>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
> >> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that
the
> >> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
> >> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ??
Screw
> >> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
> >Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
> >ruining everything.
>
> I am sure that is true.

Brace yourself for more catastrophic success!

"Mack®" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:47:00 -0800, jkil > Screamed
> something into the void that sounded like:
>
> >gman99 wrote:
> >> jkil > wrote:
> >>
> >>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has
his
> >>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> >>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
> >> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that
the
> >> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
> >> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ??
Screw
> >> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
> >Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
> >ruining everything.
>
> I am sure that is true.

Brace yourself for more catastrophic success!

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:53:56 GMT, Graphic Queen >
Screamed something into the void that sounded like:

>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:47:00 -0800, jkil > wrote:
>
>>gman99 wrote:
>>> jkil > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
>>> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that the
>>> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
>>> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ?? Screw
>>> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
>>Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
>>running everything.
>
>Now we can go on with the ruining of the country. Maters not who would
>have been elected, the country is on the ruination slide and has been
>for quite some time now.

yep, just now it's fast track to hell with cult leader in the for
front.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:53:56 GMT, Graphic Queen >
Screamed something into the void that sounded like:

>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:47:00 -0800, jkil > wrote:
>
>>gman99 wrote:
>>> jkil > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
>>> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that the
>>> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
>>> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ?? Screw
>>> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
>>Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
>>running everything.
>
>Now we can go on with the ruining of the country. Maters not who would
>have been elected, the country is on the ruination slide and has been
>for quite some time now.

yep, just now it's fast track to hell with cult leader in the for
front.

>>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>
>>
>> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
>> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that the
>> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
>> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ?? Screw
>> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
>Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
>running everything.
>
>
Forgive the intrusion. I was under the impression I had subscribed to a
'cooking' newsgroup. Or does that title embrace elections in America?

Derek Carver

"Derek Carver" > wrote in message
...
> >>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has
his
> >>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> >>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
> >> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that
the
> >> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
> >> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ??
Screw
> >> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
> >Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
> >running everything.
> >
> >
> Forgive the intrusion. I was under the impression I had subscribed to a
> 'cooking' newsgroup. Or does that title embrace elections in America?
>
> Derek Carver

If you can't cope with OT posts, then try a moderated group.

"Derek Carver" > wrote in message
...
> >>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has
his
> >>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> >>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You MUST be a troll...moral values ?? You call liying, cheating and
> >> stealing good moral vaules ?? You have no problem with the fact that
the
> >> president LIED and sent young people off to kill and be killed for NO
> >> reason other than to allow his cronies companies to make BILLIONS ??
Screw
> >> you head on a little tighter then give it a shake !!
> >Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere and
> >running everything.
> >
> >
> Forgive the intrusion. I was under the impression I had subscribed to a
> 'cooking' newsgroup. Or does that title embrace elections in America?
>
> Derek Carver

If you can't cope with OT posts, then try a moderated group.

jkil > wrote in
:

> Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere
> and running everything.

Good. That way it'll be easier to find the lot of you when the time
comes to charge you with crimes against humanityé

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

jkil > wrote in
:

> Get used to it bozo. We are in control. We will be everywhere
> and running everything.

Good. That way it'll be easier to find the lot of you when the time
comes to charge you with crimes against humanityé

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

PAMBLOC (Derek Carver) wrote in
:

> Forgive the intrusion. I was under the impression I had
> subscribed to a 'cooking' newsgroup. Or does that title embrace
> elections in America?

This is a kitchen discussion. It should be marked OT: (for Off Topic)
but he original poster was too much of a dumbass to know proper
protocol. This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and will remain such, so
that the only moderation that happens is your choice to read or not
read messages.

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Puester > wrote in
:

> jkil wrote:
>>
>> Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly
>> has his faults but most Americans like to think that they are a
>> moral and and somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>
>> Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never
>> again win an election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks
>> perceived him as a coward, a traitor, a gigolo, and an effete
>> lover of "old Europe" and what Europe thinks and does. I think
>> this election emphatically presents the END in our nation of this
>> worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while they
>> continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>>
>> God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral
>> nation with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
>> We can help them leave.
>>
>> No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
>> entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>>
>> Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of
>> the new Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>
> Troll or Butthead, you decide....

I say Troll. But it's fun playing the game anyway, just to see how
well the troll imitates shrill neeyocon-speek :-)

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Puester > wrote in
:

> jkil wrote:
>>
>> Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly
>> has his faults but most Americans like to think that they are a
>> moral and and somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>
>> Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never
>> again win an election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks
>> perceived him as a coward, a traitor, a gigolo, and an effete
>> lover of "old Europe" and what Europe thinks and does. I think
>> this election emphatically presents the END in our nation of this
>> worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while they
>> continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>>
>> God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral
>> nation with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
>> We can help them leave.
>>
>> No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
>> entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>>
>> Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of
>> the new Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>
> Troll or Butthead, you decide....

I say Troll. But it's fun playing the game anyway, just to see how
well the troll imitates shrill neeyocon-speek :-)

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

"Stark" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, jkil
> > wrote:
>
> > Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
> > faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> > somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >
> > Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win
an
> > election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a
coward, a
> > traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
> > thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END
in
> > our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while
they
> > continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
> >
> > God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
> > with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
> > We can help them leave.
> >
> > No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
> > entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
> >
> > Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the
> > new Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>
> Good idea. I'm moving to France.

Moi aussi.

Paul

"Stark" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, jkil
> > wrote:
>
> > Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
> > faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
> > somewhat pious (Christian) people.
> >
> > Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win
an
> > election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a
coward, a
> > traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
> > thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END
in
> > our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while
they
> > continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
> >
> > God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
> > with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
> > We can help them leave.
> >
> > No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
> > entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
> >
> > Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the
> > new Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>
> Good idea. I'm moving to France.

Moi aussi.

Paul

In article >,
Richard Periut > wrote:


> Oh stop your silliness!
>
> You think Bush makes decisions on his own. It's a plethora of people
> giving him advice.
>
> It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
> for anything else.
>

Maybe... but we killed an awful lot of innocent civilians while we were
at it! (and we still are)

Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is ass?

Om.
--
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
Richard Periut > wrote:


> Oh stop your silliness!
>
> You think Bush makes decisions on his own. It's a plethora of people
> giving him advice.
>
> It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
> for anything else.
>

Maybe... but we killed an awful lot of innocent civilians while we were
at it! (and we still are)

Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is ass?

Om.
--
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:32:52 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> Screamed something into the void that sounded
like:

>In article >,
> Richard Periut > wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, Bush does have his faults, and WMD were never found; but they got
>> rid of a potential threat (sooner than later Sadam was going to get his
>> hands on some material, purify it, or buy one,) and set an example to
>> the Middle East that we mean business.
>
><snipped>
>
>>
>>
>> Rich
>
>So what about all the little petty dictators in Africa that starve and
>abuse their people? When are we going to go after them?
>
>Africa has oil also.....
>
>Om


none of the oil in africa is as easy to get at, at the present time.
and bush doesn't have the saudi's permission to help them develop the
industry.

How to start each day with a positive outlook:

1. Open a new file in your PC.
2. Name it "George W. Bush."
3. Send it to the trashbin.
4. Empty the trashbin.
5. Your PC will ask you, "Do you really want to get rid of George W.
Bush?"
6. Answer calmly, "yes," and press the mouse button firmly
7. Feel better...

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:32:52 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> Screamed something into the void that sounded
like:

>In article >,
> Richard Periut > wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, Bush does have his faults, and WMD were never found; but they got
>> rid of a potential threat (sooner than later Sadam was going to get his
>> hands on some material, purify it, or buy one,) and set an example to
>> the Middle East that we mean business.
>
><snipped>
>
>>
>>
>> Rich
>
>So what about all the little petty dictators in Africa that starve and
>abuse their people? When are we going to go after them?
>
>Africa has oil also.....
>
>Om


none of the oil in africa is as easy to get at, at the present time.
and bush doesn't have the saudi's permission to help them develop the
industry.

How to start each day with a positive outlook:

1. Open a new file in your PC.
2. Name it "George W. Bush."
3. Send it to the trashbin.
4. Empty the trashbin.
5. Your PC will ask you, "Do you really want to get rid of George W.
Bush?"
6. Answer calmly, "yes," and press the mouse button firmly
7. Feel better...

> Imagine Saddam's generals suggesting that they bring
>> out the WMDs to fight off the invasion, but Saddam wanted to save
>> them for something really big.
>
>I believe that a proper search of this group will reveal that I made
>the very same observation early on

Neither of you is very astute. Obviously, possession of WMD does not mean one
uses them; refraining from using them would have enabled Saddam to preserve his
relationship with his European sympathizers.

As it has turned out, Saddam's choice was to leverage a deliberately created
appearance that he possessed WMD as an intimidation tactic--as terrorists do.

Neil

>It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
>for anything else.

I am more than content with the literal reasons.

>It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
>for anything else.

I am more than content with the literal reasons.

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Richard Periut > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Oh stop your silliness!
>>
>>You think Bush makes decisions on his own. It's a plethora of people
>>giving him advice.
>>
>>It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
>>for anything else.
>>
>
>
> Maybe... but we killed an awful lot of innocent civilians while we were
> at it! (and we still are)
>
> Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is ass?
>
> Om.
Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
eventually gave up on him.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





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><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Richard Periut > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Oh stop your silliness!
>>
>>You think Bush makes decisions on his own. It's a plethora of people
>>giving him advice.
>>
>>It was a good thing we got rid of Sadam; more for symbolic reasons than
>>for anything else.
>>
>
>
> Maybe... but we killed an awful lot of innocent civilians while we were
> at it! (and we still are)
>
> Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is ass?
>
> Om.
Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
eventually gave up on him.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Richard Periut > wrote in
:

>> Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is
>> ass?
>>
> Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
> eventually gave up on him.

Not very effective, are they. Do you ever ask yourself how you get
saddled with loons and incompetents to run your spy service? Hell,
they were at least moderately effective after we trained them prior to
WWII. Where did it all go wrong? Did they lose their decoder ring?

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Richard Periut > wrote in
:

>> Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is
>> ass?
>>
> Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
> eventually gave up on him.

Not very effective, are they. Do you ever ask yourself how you get
saddled with loons and incompetents to run your spy service? Hell,
they were at least moderately effective after we trained them prior to
WWII. Where did it all go wrong? Did they lose their decoder ring?

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Michel Boucher wrote:

> Richard Periut > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is
>>>ass?
>>>
>>
>>Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
>>eventually gave up on him.
>
>
> Not very effective, are they. Do you ever ask yourself how you get
> saddled with loons and incompetents to run your spy service? Hell,
> they were at least moderately effective after we trained them prior to
> WWII. Where did it all go wrong? Did they lose their decoder ring?
>

Michel,

KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA agents
loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not justified,
neither are your generalizations.

The significant problem with the USA is as always--too many cooks spoil
the soup. Our government should be balanced, not that polarized.

Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of done
so eons ago.

I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I don't
care to live anywhere else except here in the USA; specifically in
suburban NJ.

Off topic; do you ever talk about food?

Regards,

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Michel Boucher wrote:

> Richard Periut > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Why didn't we just send in some specialists and assasinate is
>>>ass?
>>>
>>
>>Because he's like KKKastro; multiple attempts by the CIA, and they
>>eventually gave up on him.
>
>
> Not very effective, are they. Do you ever ask yourself how you get
> saddled with loons and incompetents to run your spy service? Hell,
> they were at least moderately effective after we trained them prior to
> WWII. Where did it all go wrong? Did they lose their decoder ring?
>

Michel,

KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA agents
loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not justified,
neither are your generalizations.

The significant problem with the USA is as always--too many cooks spoil
the soup. Our government should be balanced, not that polarized.

Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of done
so eons ago.

I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I don't
care to live anywhere else except here in the USA; specifically in
suburban NJ.

Off topic; do you ever talk about food?

Regards,

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:28:43 GMT, Richard Periut >
Screamed something into the void that sounded like:

>Regardless, the ME fanatic islamists is a cancer that has to be removed.
>True, bad foreign policy issues have led to this; but it's time to rid
>that area of dictators/kings, whatever you want to call them, from these
>lands.
>
>These people have a once in their life time chance of setting up a
>respectable and fair government. Instead, they live and love chaos.
>
>Rich

who do you think armed and trained bin ladan?

and remember your cross posting in an intentional religious flame war

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:28:43 GMT, Richard Periut >
Screamed something into the void that sounded like:

>Regardless, the ME fanatic islamists is a cancer that has to be removed.
>True, bad foreign policy issues have led to this; but it's time to rid
>that area of dictators/kings, whatever you want to call them, from these
>lands.
>
>These people have a once in their life time chance of setting up a
>respectable and fair government. Instead, they live and love chaos.
>
>Rich

who do you think armed and trained bin ladan?

and remember your cross posting in an intentional religious flame war

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:25:37 GMT, Richard Periut
> wrote:

> The significant problem with the USA is as always--too many cooks spoil
> the soup.

Soup? It's BROTH!

> Our government should be balanced, not that polarized.
>
> Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of done
> so eons ago.

Anyone who only occasionally tuned into the news knew that
not only was it was very hard to infiltrate his ranks due to
the importance of nepotism in his regime. He also
ruthlessly killed all blood relatives, in-Laws or anyone
else who dared go against him.

He was a hard nut to crack! He had many hiding places and
he changed them on a nightly basis.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:25:37 GMT, Richard Periut
> wrote:

> The significant problem with the USA is as always--too many cooks spoil
> the soup.

Soup? It's BROTH!

> Our government should be balanced, not that polarized.
>
> Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of done
> so eons ago.

Anyone who only occasionally tuned into the news knew that
not only was it was very hard to infiltrate his ranks due to
the importance of nepotism in his regime. He also
ruthlessly killed all blood relatives, in-Laws or anyone
else who dared go against him.

He was a hard nut to crack! He had many hiding places and
he changed them on a nightly basis.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Richard Periut > wrote in
:

>> Not very effective, are they.
>
> KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA
> agents loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not
> justified, neither are your generalizations.

Well, I wouldn't call it generalizations if I recognize the
incompetence of one service. It would be a generalization if I said
all US civil servants were incompetent based solely on the example of
one service.

> Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of
> done so eons ago.

"would *have* done so" - there's a verb there

Perhaps they didn't do so because kiling someone is an irreversible
act, and once you kill them, it's much harder to keep people
motivated to support the military effort.

> I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I
> don't care to live anywhere else except here in the USA;
> specifically in suburban NJ.

Well, more power to you. I have travelled also to Europe and the US
and I would not wish to live anywhere but here...except maybe Denmark
(even though it did join the kkkoalition of the economically
desperate).

> Off topic; do you ever talk about food?

About as much as you do. If what I write annoys you, feel free to
killfile me.

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Richard Periut > wrote in
:

>> Not very effective, are they.
>
> KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA
> agents loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not
> justified, neither are your generalizations.

Well, I wouldn't call it generalizations if I recognize the
incompetence of one service. It would be a generalization if I said
all US civil servants were incompetent based solely on the example of
one service.

> Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of
> done so eons ago.

"would *have* done so" - there's a verb there

Perhaps they didn't do so because kiling someone is an irreversible
act, and once you kill them, it's much harder to keep people
motivated to support the military effort.

> I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I
> don't care to live anywhere else except here in the USA;
> specifically in suburban NJ.

Well, more power to you. I have travelled also to Europe and the US
and I would not wish to live anywhere but here...except maybe Denmark
(even though it did join the kkkoalition of the economically
desperate).

> Off topic; do you ever talk about food?

About as much as you do. If what I write annoys you, feel free to
killfile me.

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

Michel Boucher wrote:
> Richard Periut > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Not very effective, are they.
>>
>>KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA
>>agents loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not
>>justified, neither are your generalizations.
>
>
> Well, I wouldn't call it generalizations if I recognize the
> incompetence of one service. It would be a generalization if I said
> all US civil servants were incompetent based solely on the example of
> one service.
>

But then again, you know there is much you don't know; for security
reasons. There are many heroes that go unrecognized because of this. So
again, if you don't know all the facts, don't be so quick and hars on
our CIA/FBI.
>
>>Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of
>>done so eons ago.
>
>
> "would *have* done so" - there's a verb there
>
> Perhaps they didn't do so because kiling someone is an irreversible
> act, and once you kill them, it's much harder to keep people
> motivated to support the military effort.
>
So why did they bomb the heck of Iran's nuclear plant? They saw what was
coming, and the figured "better you than me, so I'll nip you at the bud."
>
>>I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I
>>don't care to live anywhere else except here in the USA;
>>specifically in suburban NJ.
>
>
> Well, more power to you. I have travelled also to Europe and the US
> and I would not wish to live anywhere but here...except maybe Denmark
> (even though it did join the kkkoalition of the economically
> desperate).

To each its own. Colors were invented for tastes.
>
>
>>Off topic; do you ever talk about food?
>
>
> About as much as you do. If what I write annoys you, feel free to
> killfile me.

Honestly, if you look at my posts, few are political. Why would I want
to killfile you? If you annoyed me I wouldn't be engaged in a civilized
polemic.

I consider it food for thought.

Regards,

Rich
>


--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





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Let there be fish!!!

Michel Boucher wrote:
> Richard Periut > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>>Not very effective, are they.
>>
>>KKKastro's security apparatus is unique. I wouldn't call USA CIA
>>agents loons and incompetents; your wanton use of words is not
>>justified, neither are your generalizations.
>
>
> Well, I wouldn't call it generalizations if I recognize the
> incompetence of one service. It would be a generalization if I said
> all US civil servants were incompetent based solely on the example of
> one service.
>

But then again, you know there is much you don't know; for security
reasons. There are many heroes that go unrecognized because of this. So
again, if you don't know all the facts, don't be so quick and hars on
our CIA/FBI.
>
>>Believe me, if Saddam was that easy to kill, the Israelis would of
>>done so eons ago.
>
>
> "would *have* done so" - there's a verb there
>
> Perhaps they didn't do so because kiling someone is an irreversible
> act, and once you kill them, it's much harder to keep people
> motivated to support the military effort.
>
So why did they bomb the heck of Iran's nuclear plant? They saw what was
coming, and the figured "better you than me, so I'll nip you at the bud."
>
>>I've done much traveling through Europe and the Americas, and I
>>don't care to live anywhere else except here in the USA;
>>specifically in suburban NJ.
>
>
> Well, more power to you. I have travelled also to Europe and the US
> and I would not wish to live anywhere but here...except maybe Denmark
> (even though it did join the kkkoalition of the economically
> desperate).

To each its own. Colors were invented for tastes.
>
>
>>Off topic; do you ever talk about food?
>
>
> About as much as you do. If what I write annoys you, feel free to
> killfile me.

Honestly, if you look at my posts, few are political. Why would I want
to killfile you? If you annoyed me I wouldn't be engaged in a civilized
polemic.

I consider it food for thought.

Regards,

Rich
>


--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 21:55:41 -0000, "Beav"
> wrote:

>>>
>>>"jkil" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>> faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>> somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>>
>>>> Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win
>>>> an
>>>> election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a coward,
>>>> a
>>>> traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
>>>> thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END in
>>>> our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while
>>>> they
>>>> continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>>>
>>>As opposed to false Americans? Knobhead
>>>>
>>>> God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
>>>> with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
>>>> We can help them leave.
>>>
>>>You THINK you could, your coursts on the other hand would think differently.
>>>Like I said, Knobhead.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
>>>> entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>>>>
>>>> Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the new
>>>> Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>>>
>>>Get some fresh drugs, the ones you're using now are doing some serious work
>>>on you. Knobhead
>>>
>>>Beav
>>>


Sleepy

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Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Karl Marx
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 21:55:41 -0000, "Beav"
> wrote:

>>>
>>>"jkil" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>> faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>> somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>>
>>>> Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win
>>>> an
>>>> election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a coward,
>>>> a
>>>> traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
>>>> thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END in
>>>> our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while
>>>> they
>>>> continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>>>
>>>As opposed to false Americans? Knobhead
>>>>
>>>> God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
>>>> with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
>>>> We can help them leave.
>>>
>>>You THINK you could, your coursts on the other hand would think differently.
>>>Like I said, Knobhead.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
>>>> entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>>>>
>>>> Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the new
>>>> Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>>>
>>>Get some fresh drugs, the ones you're using now are doing some serious work
>>>on you. Knobhead
>>>
>>>Beav
>>>


Sleepy

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Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Karl Marx
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:33:53 +0000, VBH > wrote:

>>>Beav wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jkil" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>Moral Values; that's what decided this election. Bush certainly has his
>>>>>faults but most Americans like to think that they are a moral and and
>>>>>somewhat pious (Christian) people.
>>>>>
>>>>>Moral values. That's the reason that Bill Clinton can never again win
>>>>>an
>>>>>election. That's the reason Kerry lost; folks perceived him as a coward,
>>>>>a
>>>>>traitor, a gigolo, and an effete lover of "old Europe" and what Europe
>>>>>thinks and does. I think this election emphatically presents the END in
>>>>>our nation of this worshiping and continuously protecting Europe while
>>>>>they
>>>>>continuously try to appear superior to real Americans !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As opposed to false Americans? Knobhead
>>>>
>>>>>God Bless America ! Within weeks we will be returned to a moral nation
>>>>>with a moral leader. Those who don't like it can leave.
>>>>>We can help them leave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You THINK you could, your coursts on the other hand would think differently.
>>>> Like I said, Knobhead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>No freebies for anyone and there will be no funds for welfare and
>>>>>entitlements. We will win our great Crusades.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let them begin at home as we stop the baby murder by the wiles of the new
>>>>>Supreme Court Justices who will be placed in order.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Get some fresh drugs, the ones you're using now are doing some serious work
>>>> on you. Knobhead
>>>>
>>>> Beav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Just a footnote to sleepy, don't bother crossposting this to every NG
>>>you can think of.

Not very observant of you. It is only X posted back to the original
NGs that beav sent it to from ASD, minus ASD and MHD, and adding
ASDUK, so his countrymen, being intelligent enough to see what he is
doing, might try to reign him in. Unfortunately it seems like an
overreach on my part.

>I have read it once already thanks and you have
>>>already convinced everyone in those NGs that you are a waster with too
>>>much time on your hands. Job done.
>>>
>>>Pity cos when you post your own material it has a habit of being
>>>interesting. Shame you do not do much of that anymore.
>>>
>>>p.s. regarding the post, Beav's right - the poster's head is a phallus

Agreed on that. Odd as it may seem, I often agree with the content of
beav's X posts. I just see no reason to add the Lutherans and Baptists
to the coterie of madmen we have on our hands at the time.


>>>--------------------
>>>VBH
>>>T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

Why don't you tell your pal beav to stop X posting out of this NG,
ASD, which does nothing but draw his replies back here. I am not going
to lose any sleep about the other crackpot NGs your bud usually X
posts to, having a poor opinion of me. Lots of people here do too! So
what? Sorry if that bothers you. When your mate stops X posting from
here, I will stop sending his messages back and including ASDUK. Too
many times I have read in ASDUK, that ASD is filled with nothing but
crossposting, spamming Americans, with beav often leading the chorus.
and all agreeing what a waste of time it is posting or reading this
NG. Very hypocritical being from one of those most responsible for
filling this NG with X posted rubbish. Makes me begin to think that it
is deliberate sabotage, as he rarely posts anything of value. So lets
make it simple. He X posts his bullshit out of this NG, its coming
right back at ya. Hope you enjoy chung and mu and all his cronies plus
the added joy of all the fundie groups. Ta Ta!

Sleepy

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Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Karl Marx
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