So the other night I had a $6 cup of clam chowder. I hate potatoes in
soup. The only reason I bought this is because it was on a "gourmet"
soup/salad bar where I was able to ladle it out myself-which meant I was
able to skim over the potatoes. Largest pieces of clam I have ever
chewed. So flavorful rich hearty.

At the store last night I bought canned clam. I had choices of clam
juice in a bottle, two brands of minced clams, one tin of smoked clam,
and one can of whole clams. I bought the whole clams so I can try and
duplicate this soup at home...I have never made soup before :-) I know
what a clam is, but it will be fun opening this can to see what it looks
(and smells) like.

Have you looked at the little cans of fishy aisle lately at your grocery
store? If it swim's, its in a can there-it aint just tuna shrimp salmon
crab clams and sardines anymore, folks!

Have you tried any of the more exotic ones?

On Jan 26, 7:27*am, (z z) wrote:
> So the other night I had a $6 cup of clam chowder. I hate potatoes in
> soup. The only reason I bought this is because it was on a "gourmet"
> soup/salad bar where I was able to ladle it out myself-which meant I was
> able to skim over the potatoes. Largest pieces of clam I have ever
> chewed. So flavorful rich hearty.
>
> At the store last night I bought canned clam. I had choices of clam
> juice in a bottle, two brands of minced clams, one tin of smoked clam,
> and one can of whole clams. I bought the whole clams so I can try and
> duplicate this soup at home...I have never made soup before :-) I know
> what a clam is, but it will be fun opening this can to see what it looks
> (and smells) like.
>
> Have you looked at the little cans of fishy aisle lately at your grocery
> store? If it swim's, its in a can there-it aint just tuna shrimp salmon
> crab clams and sardines anymore, folks!
>
> Have you tried any of the more exotic ones?

For your clam stew, since you don't want potatoes in
it......substitute clams for the oysters in this really good oyster
stew recipe.

3 tbsp butter
2 shallots, minced
4 stalks celery finely chopped with leaves
1 tsp celery seeds
1 cup clam juice
3 cups chicken broth
salt and ground white pepper
1/4 cup heavy cream
30 oz small jarred oysters
3/4 tsp Hungarian paprika
Minced parsley for garnish

In a soup pot over medium heat, melt 2 tbsp butter, add shallots and
saute until translucent, add celery and saute until celery brightens
in color. Stir in wine or sweet vermouth and cook 3-4 minutes to burn
off alcohol. Add clam juice, chicken broth, salt and pepper to taste,
cover. Simmer 15 minutes. Add cream, heat 2-3 minutes, add oysters,
cook uncovered until oysters plump and edges curl. Stir in remaining
butter and paprika to taste. Serve in warm bowl. Garnish with paprika
and sprinkling of parsley

This recipe comes from Epicurious.

On Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:54:23 AM UTC-6, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jan 26, 7:27*am, (z z) wrote:
>
> > So the other night I had a $6 cup of clam chowder. I hate potatoes in
>
> > soup. The only reason I bought this is because it was on a "gourmet"
>
> > soup/salad bar where I was able to ladle it out myself-which meant I was
>
> > able to skim over the potatoes. Largest pieces of clam I have ever
>
> > chewed. So flavorful rich hearty.
>
> >
>
> > At the store last night I bought canned clam. I had choices of clam
>
> > juice in a bottle, two brands of minced clams, one tin of smoked clam,
>
> > and one can of whole clams. I bought the whole clams so I can try and
>
> > duplicate this soup at home...I have never made soup before :-) I know
>
> > what a clam is, but it will be fun opening this can to see what it looks
>
> > (and smells) like.
>
> >
>
> > Have you looked at the little cans of fishy aisle lately at your grocery
>
> > store? If it swim's, its in a can there-it aint just tuna shrimp salmon
>
> > crab clams and sardines anymore, folks!
>
> >
>
> > Have you tried any of the more exotic ones?
>
>
>
> For your clam stew, since you don't want potatoes in
>
> it......substitute clams for the oysters in this really good oyster
>
> stew recipe.
>
>
>
> 3 tbsp butter
>
> 2 shallots, minced
>
> 4 stalks celery finely chopped with leaves
>
> 1 tsp celery seeds
>
> 1 cup clam juice
>
> 3 cups chicken broth
>
> salt and ground white pepper
>
> 1/4 cup heavy cream
>
> 30 oz small jarred oysters
>
> 3/4 tsp Hungarian paprika
>
> Minced parsley for garnish
>
>
>
> In a soup pot over medium heat, melt 2 tbsp butter, add shallots and
>
> saute until translucent, add celery and saute until celery brightens
>
> in color. Stir in wine or sweet vermouth and cook 3-4 minutes to burn
>
> off alcohol. Add clam juice, chicken broth, salt and pepper to taste,
>
> cover. Simmer 15 minutes. Add cream, heat 2-3 minutes, add oysters,
>
> cook uncovered until oysters plump and edges curl. Stir in remaining
>
> butter and paprika to taste. Serve in warm bowl. Garnish with paprika
>
> and sprinkling of parsley
>
>
>
> This recipe comes from Epicurious.

I forwarded that to both my and my nephew's email. That looks excellent with clams subbed for the oysters.

--Bryan

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:27:58 -0600, (z z) wrote:

>So the other night I had a $6 cup of clam chowder. I hate potatoes in
>soup. The only reason I bought this is because it was on a "gourmet"
>soup/salad bar where I was able to ladle it out myself-which meant I was
>able to skim over the potatoes. Largest pieces of clam I have ever
>chewed. So flavorful rich hearty.
>
>At the store last night I bought canned clam. I had choices of clam
>juice in a bottle, two brands of minced clams, one tin of smoked clam,
>and one can of whole clams. I bought the whole clams so I can try and
>duplicate this soup at home...I have never made soup before :-) I know
>what a clam is, but it will be fun opening this can to see what it looks
>(and smells) like.
>
>Have you looked at the little cans of fishy aisle lately at your grocery
>store? If it swim's, its in a can there-it aint just tuna shrimp salmon
>crab clams and sardines anymore, folks!
>
>Have you tried any of the more exotic ones?

I used to buy Doxee products often... always had a container of clams
in my freezer.
http://www.bobdoxsee.com/LONG%20ISLA...ea_clam_co.htm

I googled clam soup instead of chowder and found this interesting
website of "antique" recipes.

http://www.seafoodfish.com/index.html

Your recipe caught my eye because of the celery seeds-I was examining
the empty cup with lots of green flecks and could have sworn it had
sesame seeds also-I thought they might be bits of garlic instead but
they could possibly be celery seeds.

This recipe, though written for fresh clams in the shell, sounds
similar:


Ingredients

48 littleneck clams, the smaller the better
2 tablespoons butter
2 tablespoons finely chopped shallots
1/4 cup finely chopped onion
1 teaspoon finely minced garlic
1/2 teaspoon finely chopped fresh thyme or half that amount dried
1 tablespoon cornstarch
2 cups dry white wine
1 small dried hot red pepper
1 egg yolk
1 cup heavy cream
1/4 cup chopped fresh basil
Preparation
1.
Rinse the clams well and drain.
2.
Heat the butter in a kettle and add the shallots, onion and garlic.
Cook, stirring, until wilted. Add the thyme, and sprinkle with
cornstarch. Stir. Add the wine and stir to blend.
3.
Add the clams and hot red pepper. Cover closely. Bring to a boil, and
let cook 5 to 8 minutes, stirring occasionally, until the clams open.
4.
Blend the yolk and cream, and add this mixture to the soup, stirring.
Bring to a boil, stirring, and remove from the heat. Spoon immediately
into hot soup bowls. Sprinkle with basil, and serve with French bread.
YIELD
4 servings
Originally published with 60-MINUTE GOURMET
By Pierre Franey, October 27, 1982

I am from the landlocked midwest-I find canned shark squid octopus trout
etc fascinating. You, when you are being a curmudgeon, not so much.

On 1/27/2013 11:05 AM, z z wrote:
> I am from the landlocked midwest-I find canned shark squid octopus trout
> etc fascinating. You, when you are being a curmudgeon, not so much.
>
But you also seem to think we should find this fascinating. Would you
like some applause for actually *looking* at what is on the grocery
store shelves? <clapping> There. Happy now?

Jill

I usually take the higher road, but would be quite happy to quote
chapter and verse of some of the more edifying off-topic drivel here?

As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:32:04 -0600, (z z) wrote:

> As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
> people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
> products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
> from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream.

My husband would be one of those. He blows through with a short
shopping list, gets what's on it and doesn't look at anything else.
What's the fun in that? I enjoy grocery shopping, probably because I
keep an eye out for products that interest me and decide how I might
use them while I'm still in the store. I'm one of those people who
doesn't have a smart phone, but I'd put one to good use if I did
because I'd be looking up recipes while I shopped. Another thing I'd
do with it is go to the Monterey fish watch site while I was standing
in front of the fish counter deciding what to buy.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 1/27/2013 12:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:32:04 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>
>> As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
>> people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
>> products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
>> from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream.
>
> My husband would be one of those. He blows through with a short
> shopping list, gets what's on it and doesn't look at anything else.
> What's the fun in that? I enjoy grocery shopping, probably because I
> keep an eye out for products that interest me and decide how I might
> use them while I'm still in the store.

I shop from a list but I peruse each aisle in case there's something I
forgot to write down. Certainly I've found some interesting and
different things to try simply by looking around.

Jill

On 1/27/2013 12:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:32:04 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>
>> As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
>> people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
>> products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
>> from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream.
>
> My husband would be one of those. He blows through with a short
> shopping list, gets what's on it and doesn't look at anything else.
> What's the fun in that? I enjoy grocery shopping, probably because I
> keep an eye out for products that interest me and decide how I might
> use them while I'm still in the store.

Oh, I'd like to add this. Many years ago I inquired on this ng about
making clam chowder. The OP said they don't want potatoes in it so it's
apparently more like a clam stew. Okey doke.

Me, I love clam chowder. With potatoes. I've never managed to master
it. And yes, I was using canned clams. I haven't tried to make it in a
long time.

Jill

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:16:31 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/27/2013 12:59 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:32:04 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
>
> >> people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
>
> >> products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
>
> >> from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream..
>
> >
>
> > My husband would be one of those. He blows through with a short
>
> > shopping list, gets what's on it and doesn't look at anything else.
>
> > What's the fun in that? I enjoy grocery shopping, probably because I
>
> > keep an eye out for products that interest me and decide how I might
>
> > use them while I'm still in the store.
>
>
>
> Oh, I'd like to add this. Many years ago I inquired on this ng about
>
> making clam chowder. The OP said they don't want potatoes in it so it's
>
> apparently more like a clam stew. Okey doke.
>
>
>
> Me, I love clam chowder. With potatoes. I've never managed to master
>
> it. And yes, I was using canned clams. I haven't tried to make it in a
>
> long time.
>
Jill, this is something my nephew sent me in an email, "If you buy some fresh clams, steam them until they open, remove the flesh, and return shells to water to simmer for 20 mun or so... You can supplement with jarred clam juice, but the stock made this way from the shells is unbeatable."
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Jan 27, 10:28*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 1/27/2013 11:05 AM, z z wrote:> I am from the landlocked midwest-I find canned shark squid octopus trout
> > etc fascinating. You, when you are being a curmudgeon, not so much.
>
> But you also seem to think we should find this fascinating. *Would you
> like some applause for actually *looking* at what is on the grocery
> store shelves? <clapping> *There. *Happy now?

Yet ya'll seem to think that yer continual whining about yer house
that you can't afford to live in and shacking up with some married guy
part-time is oh-so-riveting.

On 1/27/2013 8:19 PM, Bryan wrote:
> On Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:16:31 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/27/2013 12:59 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:32:04 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> As for grocery store aisles, depending on your personality type, some
>>
>>>> people blow/stumble thru a store never stopping to notice new or unusual
>>
>>>> products-part of the reason why great products are sometimes removed
>>
>>>> from the market is because they couldn't get noticed by the mainstream.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> My husband would be one of those. He blows through with a short
>>
>>> shopping list, gets what's on it and doesn't look at anything else.
>>
>>> What's the fun in that? I enjoy grocery shopping, probably because I
>>
>>> keep an eye out for products that interest me and decide how I might
>>
>>> use them while I'm still in the store.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, I'd like to add this. Many years ago I inquired on this ng about
>>
>> making clam chowder. The OP said they don't want potatoes in it so it's
>>
>> apparently more like a clam stew. Okey doke.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me, I love clam chowder. With potatoes. I've never managed to master
>>
>> it. And yes, I was using canned clams. I haven't tried to make it in a
>>
>> long time.
>>
> Jill, this is something my nephew sent me in an email, "If you buy some fresh clams, steam them until they open, remove the flesh, and return shells to water to simmer for 20 mun or so... You can supplement with jarred clam juice, but the stock made this way from the shells is unbeatable."
>>
>> Jill
>
> --Bryan
>
Sure, except it's not the season for fresh clams. And as I said, I
tried making it *many* years ago. I was living in west TN and had
tasted it for the first time when eating in a restaurant in Boston. Got
home hooked on the stuff. The grocery store I went to didn't have fresh
clams. I don't recall if I even looked for frozen. I tried it with
canned. I didn't have any objection to the texture of the canned clams.
It's the creamy consistency of the soup itself I can't get right.

Jill

On 2013-01-28 03:59:51 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> Recreational clam season in SC runs from Oct-May. Commercial clams
> are a year round thing, aren't they? I never really thought about
> there being a "clam season". It's not like clams fly south for the
> winter.

Neither do oysters, but they can be hard to find from May through
August. I certainly never thought about a "clam season". Seems (as
with oysters) there has always been somewhere on the planet where the
mollusk is happy, but maybe they have to fly them further and it costs
more, and that is the sole reason for oyster "season". Locally (SoCal)
in the Vietnamese/Korean/Chinese supermarkets there always seems to be
vast amounts of these critters in the tanks.

Regarding canned fish, it seems I always use to have a few cans of some
in the pantry, smoked oysters, tuna, herring, or sardines. But the wife
doesn't seem to care much for the stuff, or doesn't have a place to use
it. I just noted recently that there are 8-10 cans fo different things
that have been there for years.

I twisted her arm to make linguini with clam sauce a few months back,
and the clams were hard chewy little knots. So strike that from future
consideration.

In related news I watched Laura Calder's "French Food at Home" where
she did a thing with various French canned sardines. She pointed out
that in France they have specialty shops and that's all they sell, with
myriad flavors and seasonings, all canned very rapidly after being
caught. And not cheap. I've never tried these but raw sardine (iwashi
in sushi bars). So I'm not as creeped about those as some might be.

At the local banh mi shops (Vietnamese sandwiches), they have pictures
on their overhead menu for each, and the one for the sardine banh mi
almost always has a picture of an opened can, rolled back to display
the sardines. This is apparently "appetizing" or demonstrate that they
are "can-fresh" sardines or something. Really funny.