On 1/30/2013 6:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/29/2013 1:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 29/01/2013 12:50 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>>> Do you think times have changed?
>>>>
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
>>>>
>>>> (running for cover)
>>>>
>>>> Dimitri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps, but I will show it to my wife with a "hint hint hint" ;-)
>>>
>>> There is a good chance that article is fraud. I mean... don't complain
>>> if he stays out all night ????? Seriously? Not even in the 1950s.
>>
>> Oh, I doubt that, Dave. They used to publish books akin to guidelines on
>> how to be a good wife. Way before this little thing was published.
>> And it
>> was always about what the wife should do to *keep* her man.
>>
>> Many years later there was a book espousing the same concept. Do any of
>> you recall a booked titled 'The Complete Woman'? By Maribel Morgan...
>> 1970's, IIRC. Here's a quote from her book:
>>
>> "She needed to accept him and to *change herself* to make him and herself
>> happy. Morgan once wrote, "It's only when a woman *surrenders* her life
>> to her husband, reveres and worships him and is willing to serve him,
>> that
>> she becomes really beautiful to him. She becomes a priceless jewel, the
>> glory of femininity, his queen!"
>>
>> What a load of horsecrap. Might as well chain her up in the basement and
>> only let her out to do the cooking.
>
> Yes, seen through our eyes it was indeed 'horsecrap', but as I have said
> elsewhere, , that is how it was 'mostly' accepted. I am not saying that
> is how all women behaved, but it was advertised as the ideal. Of course in
> those days, guess who were the bosses in advertising ... The advert
> Steve(?) posted may not have been real but the content and sentiment were
> spot on and that is how a 'good' woman was expected to behave.
>
> The good old days eh?

My parents were married in 1951 and I can tell you one thing. I my
lifetime Mom never offered to take his shoes off and rub his feet when
he came home from work. LOL

That spoof Dimitri posted mentioned keeping the kids quiet. Oh, that's
right, he mustn't be reminded he fathered children! Heaven forbid he
should have to interact with them. Certainly not at dinner!

I have the feeling this is where the idea of the "kids table" came from.
And I don't just mean for large gatherings.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/29/2013 8:26 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 1/29/2013 3:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> Just thinking about the theoretical husband/father in the article
>>> Dimitri posted, it's like out of some Twilight Zone where the guy
>>> winds up in some fake life where he doesn't know anyone in his house.
>>>
>>> Just come home, everyone drops everything to make you feel like a
>>> pampered guest and never tells you how they really feel about
>>> anything. It's all too creepy.
>>
>> Can you imagine how helpless a man like that would be if his wife
>> decided to leave him?
>
> He'd probably just hire a housekeeper.
>
> Jill


Or find another live in chump a few days later. LOL

Cheri

jmcquown wrote:

> I
> remember
> back
> in
> the
> 1980s,
> someone
> from
> Mary
> Kay
> Cosmetics
> saying,
> "You
> should
> revere
> your
> husband
> almost
> as
> you
> revere
> God."


> Might I ask what you were doing with Mary Kay Cosmetics? LOLOL Sorry,
> couldn't help myself.

You didn't know? He was probably handing them out to TVs so they could bus it
up to NYC and terrorize Shelley.

In article >,
gloria p > wrote:

> On 1/29/2013 10:50 AM, Dimitri wrote:
> > Do you think times have changed?
>
>
> Yes, they have, thanks mostly to WWII and college educations for women.
> Many/most families couldn't live on one income. I went back to work and
> my minute salary paid for two kids' college education.
>
>
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
> >
> > (running for cover)
> >
>
>
>
> And so you should. I'm going to suggest that Barb get her wooden spoon
> out of retirement just for you in response to that URL.
>
> gloria p

Retirement? Hah! It's the Husband Trainer!
--
Barb,
http://www.barbschaller.com, as of December 23, 2012.

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1

Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
cook!]

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

On 1/30/2013 2:03 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/29/2013 8:26 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 1/29/2013 3:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just thinking about the theoretical husband/father in the article
>>>> Dimitri posted, it's like out of some Twilight Zone where the guy
>>>> winds up in some fake life where he doesn't know anyone in his house.
>>>>
>>>> Just come home, everyone drops everything to make you feel like a
>>>> pampered guest and never tells you how they really feel about
>>>> anything. It's all too creepy.
>>>
>>> Can you imagine how helpless a man like that would be if his wife
>>> decided to leave him?
>>
>> He'd probably just hire a housekeeper.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Or find another live in chump a few days later. LOL
>
> Cheri

Hmmm, back in the day he'd have had to woo her at least enough to
convince her his kids were absolute angels. Of course she'd have been
fearful of being called an "old maid". LOL

Jill

In article
>
,
Cindy Fuller > wrote:

> In article >,
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
>
> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
> cook!]

What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.

--
Julian Vrieslander

"Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >
> ,
> Cindy Fuller > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>>
>> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
>>
>> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
>> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
>> cook!]
>
> What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.

.... and will you hang it some place your wife can see it? I can see it
ending up as your necklace!
--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:37:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article
> > >
> > ,
> > Cindy Fuller > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> >>
> >> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
> >>
> >> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
> >> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
> >> cook!]
> >
> > What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.
>
> ... and will you hang it some place your wife can see it? I can see it
> ending up as your necklace!
> --

Ditto! Hopefully, he hangs it over the toilet... which is always a
fitting place for things like that.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:26:10 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/30/2013 7:49 AM, Bryan wrote:
>
> >> She needed to accept him and to*change herself* to make him and
>
> >> >
>
> >> >herself happy. Morgan once wrote, "It's only when a woman*surrenders*
>
> >> >
>
> >> >her life to her husband, reveres and worships him and is willing to
>
> >> >
>
> >> >serve him, that she becomes really beautiful to him. She becomes a
>
> >> >
>
> >> >priceless jewel, the glory of femininity, his queen!"
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >What a load of horsecrap. Might as well chain her up in the basement and
>
> >> >
>
> >> >only let her out to do the cooking.
>
> >> >
>
> > I remember back in the 1980s, someone from Mary Kay Cosmetics saying, "You should revere your husband almost as you revere God."
>
> >> >
>
>
>
> > --Bryan
>
>
>
> Might I ask what you were doing with Mary Kay Cosmetics? LOLOL Sorry,
>
> couldn't help myself.
>
Really Jill, can you imagine *me* wearing Mary Kay? I was always an
Almay man.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On 2/7/2013 3:49 PM, Bryan wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:26:10 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/30/2013 7:49 AM, Bryan wrote:
>>
>>>> She needed to accept him and to*change herself* to make him and
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> herself happy. Morgan once wrote, "It's only when a woman*surrenders*
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> her life to her husband, reveres and worships him and is willing to
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> serve him, that she becomes really beautiful to him. She becomes a
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> priceless jewel, the glory of femininity, his queen!"
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> What a load of horsecrap. Might as well chain her up in the basement and
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> only let her out to do the cooking.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>> I remember back in the 1980s, someone from Mary Kay Cosmetics saying, "You should revere your husband almost as you revere God."
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> --Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> Might I ask what you were doing with Mary Kay Cosmetics? LOLOL Sorry,
>>
>> couldn't help myself.
>>
> Really Jill, can you imagine *me* wearing Mary Kay? I was always an
> Almay man.
>>
>> Jill
>
> --Bryan
>
Cover Girl with Olay is better for your skin

Jill

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:37:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
> > ..
> > .
> > > In article
> > > >
> > > ,
> > > Cindy Fuller > wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article >,
> > >> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
> > >>
> > >> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
> > >> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
> > >> cook!]
> > >
> > > What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.
> >
> > ... and will you hang it some place your wife can see it? I can see it
> > ending up as your necklace!
> > --
>
> Ditto! Hopefully, he hangs it over the toilet... which is always a
> fitting place for things like that.

Suffice it to say that he will be dealt with offline...

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:46:11 -0800, Cindy Fuller
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:37:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
> > > ..
> > > .
> > > > In article
> > > > >
> > > > ,
> > > > Cindy Fuller > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In article >,
> > > >> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
> > > >>
> > > >> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed changed,
> > > >> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night to
> > > >> cook!]
> > > >
> > > > What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.
> > >
> > > ... and will you hang it some place your wife can see it? I can see it
> > > ending up as your necklace!
> > > --
> >
> > Ditto! Hopefully, he hangs it over the toilet... which is always a
> > fitting place for things like that.
>
> Suffice it to say that he will be dealt with offline...
>
Heh! I can picture you now: Skillet in one hand, rolling pin in the
other with arms crossed and toe tapping. Nope, that's not a smile.




--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Cindy Fuller" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:37:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
>> > ..
>> > .
>> > > In article
>> > > >
>> > > ,
>> > > Cindy Fuller > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> In article >,
>> > >> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > http://i.imgur.com/rjOEvhz.png?1
>> > >>
>> > >> Barb's not the only one who cringed at this. Times have indeed
>> > >> changed,
>> > >> mercifully. [Note to SO: Don't get any ideas. It's still your night
>> > >> to
>> > >> cook!]
>> > >
>> > > What a great find. I'm going to print and frame this one.
>> >
>> > ... and will you hang it some place your wife can see it? I can see it
>> > ending up as your necklace!
>> > --
>>
>> Ditto! Hopefully, he hangs it over the toilet... which is always a
>> fitting place for things like that.
>
> Suffice it to say that he will be dealt with offline...

Very pleased to hear it!

--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

My fifties mother was a housewife AND worked a fulltime job. So, I think the Beaver stereotype was on the way out even then. My married aunts worked too , kept house, and I didn't know many women who sat home all day.

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:48:40 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

>My fifties mother was a housewife AND worked a fulltime job. So, I think the Beaver stereotype was on the way out even then. My married aunts worked too , kept house, and I didn't know many women who sat home all day.


My mother never worked, none of my married aunts did either. My MIL
did for a few years and one of her sisters did. There were plenty of
stay at home moms on my street growing up in the 50's.

My wife stopped working when we had kids and worked only briefly
afterwards. Her last jobs was for about six months in the early 90's.
Her employer needed someone all day (she worked mornings) so she left
once a new person was found.