"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>> take
>> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>> again
>> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>> repaired.
>>
> Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
> making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.

It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so no
car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by
carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well padded.

Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:06:56 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> LOL, Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to
>> 'different' once it was applied to him/her.
>
> He was gently needling you, Farm1.

Yes, I know he was needling me. That is why I needled back.

I'm pretty sure wasn't meant to be
> offensive. I think it was said in the same spirit as when Brits and
> Americans tell each other they drive on the wrong side of the road.
> It's a joke.

I doubt it.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013016234295165-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-31 00:02:42 +0000, Farm1 said:
>
>> Shhhhhhhhhhhh!
>>
>> Reading most of the responses has been simply amazing. Geography and
>> passport ownership........... You know that stereotype..............
>
> Oh I get it: You're living in Australia is some kind of secret. Well the
> cat is out of the bag now!

You don't get it.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013016335227854-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-31 00:06:56 +0000, Farm1 said:
>
>> Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to
>> 'different' once it was applied to him/her.
>
> You seem to have some kind of logic-block: I said "No decent food on a
> road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess."
>
> If you were driving around the RIGHT are for finding decent food, why
> couldn't you find it?

Try using logic. You have been told that this is a sparsely populated
country most of which is rural.

With that information having been given to you it shouldn't be too hard to
figure out why your repetitious comment that driving in the RIGHT area to
find good food would be such as ridiculous thing to say.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:02 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
> >> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
> >> take
> >> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
> >> again
> >> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
> >> repaired.
> >>
> > Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
> > making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.
>
> It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so no
> car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by
> carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well padded.
>
> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
>
Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
I read from you.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013016375310830-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 23:43:00 +0000, Farm1 said:
>
>>> She pointed out that she's "country folk". And I think instant coffe is
>>> a country standards. Apparently they can't stop the car for anything
>>> >>> other than bathroom breaks. I assume with the instant coffee they
>>> also have a DC heating coil so they can warm the bottled water in a cup
>>> for the instant coffee.
>>
>> 'Thermos' was mentioned as being a part of the basket. I'm sure that
>> thermos flasks would be available in the US.
>
> I don't make instant coffee in the car

Nor do I.

on road trips so perhaps you can
> explain: You bring hot water in the thermos and then pour it into a cup to
> make instant coffee?

Yes. My husband also uses the water to make his tea.

> Please tell me you don't take the thermos to avoid bathroom breaks!!!

We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets (which
aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also use the table
and seats to stop for drink or food break

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013016582272461-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-31 00:30:38 +0000, Farm1 said:
>
>>> You are a bitter one. First I'm ignorant, now I'm arrogant. Some people
>>> find bile wherever they put point their bilious eye.
>>
>> So your multiple comments about my being 'country folk' and drinking
>> instant coffee, and driving in the 'wrong area' and how you wouldn't eat
>> out of a basket etc, etc were all meant to be taken in jest and weren't
>> really as rude or xenophobic as you made them sound?
>
> I just say them; you're the one that "makes them sound"; reinterprets them
> to suit your need for indignation.

That is an attempt at being disingenuous and it's unbelievable.

> You call youself Farm1 and made the distinction upstream about how city
> people can't understand country people,

I made no such comment.

then get huffy that I called
> you "country folk"?

I am merely amazed that you dish it up and yet you get huffy when Janet
returns the compliment. If you dish it, you can expect to get it back.

>> Do you intend to apologise to me for your rudeness....
>
> Why bother, you'll invent more.

I don't need to invent it.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:55 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
>> >
>> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
>> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
>> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>> >repaired.
>>
>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>
>Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
>friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
>condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
>drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.

Nice cars. There's a few old Bristish makes and models I like, but I'm
just not keen/devoted enough to restore one, let alone keep 'em
running...

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:35:51 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"sf" > wrote in message
>>>> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>>> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>>> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>>>> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>>
>>>There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>>>British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>>>take
>>>that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>>>again
>>>when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>>>repaired.
>>
>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>
>Well it does help! We've got 5 ancient British sports cars (and we won't
>mention the Series 1 and 2 Land Rover collection)!
>
>The part we picked up was for an 80+ year old car that we both really enjoy
>using. Himself bought it in Brisbane and over 2 and a half days drove it
>home to sth eastern NSW and it didn't miss a beat. Half of that drive was
>in pouring rain. She's a wonderful old girl and can really lift her skirts
>an go when she's asked to do so.

Sounds interesting, 80 y/o is pretty old! What is it?

You never know what you'll find in the least likely places. I know of
a TVR and Jenson Interceptor (almost mint condition) that's in an old
leaning shed, threatening to collapse on top of both cars. Here in the
Tassie bush...

Back in the 90's I used to run a small avocado farm in the Sunshine
Coast hinterland, my boss was a prominent QC in Brisbane... he was
quite eccentric though and insisted on owning a couple of old Rover
sedans and a Range Rover. Each and every time he tried to make the
trek up to the farm, the Rovers would break down on the way. Not for a
lack of maintenance or anything... they would invariably find a way
to bugger up no matter what it seemed. Yes, you really do need a
masochistic streak to own one IMO

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:59:12 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:49:32 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:26:28 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:38:15 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> If I *did* happen to pass a Howard Johnson's (VERY unlikely) I
>
> >>
>
> >> >> actually *would* stop in for some fried clam strips.
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> > Did they have good ones? Around here, any place I've tried fried clams has
>
> >>
>
> >> > been a disappointment. More breading than clam and the clam is often
>
> >>
>
> >> > overcooked (very chewy).
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> That's them. Never seen them any other way.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Mrs. Paul's (from the freezer) used to make them, but I haven't seen
>
> >>
>
> >> them for quite a while.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> http://www.mrspauls.com/fried-clams
>
> >>
>
> >Mrs. Paul's brings back some memories from the early 1980s. I gave up meat other than
>
> >fish for six months, and I had a Fry Daddy that I used to cook those fish fillets every day.
>
> >I was in my early 20s, and somehow got the notion that meat caused
> > hyper-sexual and aggressive ideations.
>
> Involving cilantro?
>
What could possibly be the connection? Oh, I know. You're sloppy, and you're conflating my dislike of soaplantro with my reaction to great northern beans.
>
> --
>
> John

--Bryan

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:02 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an
>> >> ancient
>> >> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>> >> take
>> >> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>> >> again
>> >> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to
>> >> be
>> >> repaired.
>> >>
>> > Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
>> > making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.
>>
>> It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so no
>> car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by
>> carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well padded.
>>
>> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
>> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
>>
> Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
> I read from you.

No, I didn't mention age. His newest one is about 60 whereas all the rest
are even older.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:19:50 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:55 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>>> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>> >
>>> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>>> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
>>> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
>>> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>>> >repaired.
>>>
>>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>>
>>Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
>>friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
>>condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
>>drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.
>
>Nice cars. There's a few old Bristish makes and models I like, but I'm
>just not keen/devoted enough to restore one, let alone keep 'em
>running...

With my '66 Tr4A:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ke7ki0.jpg

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:34:17 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:19:50 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:55 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>>>> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>>> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>>> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>>>> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>>> >
>>>> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>>>> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
>>>> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
>>>> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>>>> >repaired.
>>>>
>>>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>>>
>>>Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
>>>friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
>>>condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
>>>drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.
>>
>>Nice cars. There's a few old Bristish makes and models I like, but I'm
>>just not keen/devoted enough to restore one, let alone keep 'em
>>running...
>
>With my '66 Tr4A:
>http://i49.tinypic.com/ke7ki0.jpg

Very nice!

On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013016375310830-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 23:43:00 +0000, Farm1 said:
>>
>>>> She pointed out that she's "country folk". And I think instant coffe is
>>>> a country standards. Apparently they can't stop the car for anything
>>>>>>> other than bathroom breaks. I assume with the instant coffee they
>>>> also have a DC heating coil so they can warm the bottled water in a cup
>>>> for the instant coffee.
>>>
>>> 'Thermos' was mentioned as being a part of the basket. I'm sure that
>>> thermos flasks would be available in the US.
>>
>> I don't make instant coffee in the car
>
> Nor do I.
>
> on road trips so perhaps you can
>> explain: You bring hot water in the thermos and then pour it into a cup
>> to make instant coffee?
>
> Yes. My husband also uses the water to make his tea.
>
>> Please tell me you don't take the thermos to avoid bathroom breaks!!!
>
> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets
> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also
> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break

Well this has all been mighty informative!

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:55 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate
>>> >> spending
>>> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>> >
>>> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an
>>> >ancient
>>> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>>> >take
>>> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>>> >again
>>> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to
>>> >be
>>> >repaired.
>>>
>>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>>
>>Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
>>friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
>>condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
>>drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.
>
> Nice cars. There's a few old Bristish makes and models I like, but I'm
> just not keen/devoted enough to restore one, let alone keep 'em
> running...

That and his cattle are his 2 major interests. If they bring him the
pleasure that they so obviously do, then I'm quite prepared to join him and
be the baggage carrier. He's been good to, and for, me for 40+ years so
what goes round etc......

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> Sounds interesting, 80 y/o is pretty old! What is it?

she's actually older than that and she looks like this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosco500/6258640801/

> You never know what you'll find in the least likely places. I know of
> a TVR and Jenson Interceptor (almost mint condition) that's in an old
> leaning shed, threatening to collapse on top of both cars. Here in the
> Tassie bush...

Ah! The proverbial barnfind!
>
> Back in the 90's I used to run a small avocado farm in the Sunshine
> Coast hinterland, my boss was a prominent QC in Brisbane... he was
> quite eccentric though and insisted on owning a couple of old Rover
> sedans and a Range Rover. Each and every time he tried to make the
> trek up to the farm, the Rovers would break down on the way. Not for a
> lack of maintenance or anything... they would invariably find a way
> to bugger up no matter what it seemed. Yes, you really do need a
> masochistic streak to own one IMO

Or have the interest and ability to fettle the sods. Himself can fettle
quite well whereas I'm not so sure that a QC would be so interested.

On 1/30/2013 6:50 PM, Farm1 wrote:
> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009202314553-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 15:27:58 +0000, Janet said:
>>
>>>>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a long
>>>>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I
>>>> guess.
>>>
>>> It's called Australia.
>>
>> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long drive.
>
> You may be able to see that if you're capable of thinking beyond the square.
>
>>> Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>>
>> Perhaps you mean "different" area. My area(s) make finding decent food
>> pretty easy.
>
> Just as I am driving in a 'different' area and not the 'wrong' area.
>
>
Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

>When we go off on longish haul car trips, we always take a basket. Tehrmos,
>cups, spoons, tea bags, instant coffee, sugar, biscuits (aka 'cookies'
>elsewhere in the English speaking world), sandwiches, cold water and milk.
>And sometimes treats like lollies (aka 'sweets' or 'candy') or chips (aka
>'crisps').
>
>This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry people
>we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does anyone else do
>this?
>

My company makes insulated coolers so we always have one in the car
trunk.

If we go away, we always take some drinks and snacks. It is rare we
pack a lunch as we'd rather sample the local eateries along the way,
but once we are in the hotel/motel we'd rather have our own snacks
than pay $2 for a pack of crackers from a vending machine.

We've had cheese and wine at the F D Roosevelt library as well as the
park on the bay in Newport, RI.

We never drink bottled water at home, but we went through a case of it
on a trip to Savannah last year. Next trip will probably be two
cases, but I'll buy one along the way.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:40:00 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2013 12:42 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> The whole back of my van is loaded with bags and stuff. We're very green
>> here so the stores are all urging us to use reusable bags. I used to buy
>> them for every store but I am phasing those out in lieu of the more
>> expensive thick plastic ones that last longer and can be washed more easily.
>> Most of the cloth ones just fall apart when you wash them. But I do have a
>> nice Target bag made of a thick fabric that washes well.
>
>Do you use the proper bags for each store you shop in? ie, you don't
>use a Piggly Wiggly bag when you go to Costco?

I've gone out of my way to do that. No one has ever made a comment
though, they just bag the groceries.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:28:44 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:59:12 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:49:32 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >Mrs. Paul's brings back some memories from the early 1980s. I gave up meat other than
> > >fish for six months, and I had a Fry Daddy that I used to cook those fish fillets every day.
> >
> > >I was in my early 20s, and somehow got the notion that meat caused
> > > hyper-sexual and aggressive ideations.
> >
> > Involving cilantro?
> >
> What could possibly be the connection? Oh, I know. You're sloppy, and you're conflating my dislike of soaplantro with my reaction to great northern beans.
> >

Bryan, he's just teasing you. Give it a rest.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn.
>
> It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't
> have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are
> urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a
> 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage
> until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours
> according to FarmI).
>
> Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where
> that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups
> again?
>
> -sw
>
I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like
that other group, I don't want to check there.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013015354015798-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 23:14:23 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> I've never eaten soul food and probably wouldn't. Doesn't sound
>> appealing. Husband lived in Louisiana so has eaten that stuff and likes
>> it. But keep in mind that we are far from where soul food is popular.
>> So I suspect what we have here isn't made properly
>
> You're missing ALL my points! Soul food: Like it/hate it--I don't care.
> I'm just saying I found something that was "a surprise". I found it by
> looking. Looking involved going into the town a little bit.

Okay but... There are different reasons for taking a road trip. Sometimes
you are just going to see what you can see. Other times you have a
destination in mind and don't have the time to deviate.
>
> I know you can't or won't do these things so it doesn't really make any
> difference that the surpise in my example wouldn't have been interesting
> to you. Imagine a surprise, whatever that may be--anything you can
> imagine--it may exist! And it may be right over there, assuming you're
> not in a hurry, in control of your route, not frightened of losing your
> way and any other reasons you can imagine.

I'm sure they are there. But I am not out looking for food like that. Not
ever. I don't really like surprises but I know some people do. I'm more of
a planner in advance.
>
> In sum my sole point: There are other options. Specifically there are
> other options when you think there are NOT other options based on the
> limitations you have put on finding other options. That's all.

There are not always options in all areas. Believe me I have lived in
several parts of the country. In the area of PA where my in-laws used to
live, there are very few restaurants. The one good one is only open for
breakfast and lunch. There used to be a couple of diners. They're now
closed. There is a sub shop. McDonalds. A few Italian places, two
somewhat cheap and one expensive. I ate at the cheap ones. They were okay.
Had heard that the expensive one was no better so I never tried it. There
are some dive bars that you can eat in and they're fine if you like sitting
with bugs, which I don't. There's a drive in that makes a good tuna melt.
And a place that caters to seniors. I kind of liked it because they serve
plain food and small portions. Wouldn't be the kind of place most folks
would like. Chinese place that I heard was bad.

The next step up from these places would be the Ponderosa steak house. And
as you probably read in the steak thread, they're not such a great place.
Other than that, if you want a really good meal you need to go much further
out, like to the Pocono's or by the airport.

And there are a lot of places like that. Little towns or townships, lightly
populated and not a lot of businesses. Go out further to where my BIL's
cabin is and there is *nothing* there except for railroad tracks and a
mining operation. If you want food there, you'd better either bring your
own or catch it in the river.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009122342519-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 15:36:49 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2013013006405892087-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>> On 2013-01-30 06:47:49 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>>
>>>> Oklahoma is a different matter. Been there many times but don't
>>>> remember eating in a restaurant while we were there. Then again, I do
>>>> have relatives there and when we were visiting, we always seemed to
>>>> dine at someone's house.
>>>
>>> There's no food to be had there. Every third small town has one decent
>>> BBQ joint. That's about it.
>>
>> Well that could be. My dad tells stories of buying nickel hamburgers as
>> a kid but he bought them at some store. Not a restaurant.
>
> Likely at Kress's, Woolworth's or the like. Where in Oklahoma was he? They
> likely still have a few cheap diners that survived the 80's. When OK
> imploded in the 80's you could buy a house in OKC for 10k or something. I
> returned to visit in small towns in the early 90's and yard sales seemed
> to be the only operative businesses. Block after block of yard sales.
>
Ponca City. He said it was a mom and pop type place. We dined at
Woolworth's or Kress once in a while when I was a kid but more frequently at
Grants. I always got a stuffed tomato.

>> I do know at some point they had a KFC there. I was just learning to
>> read and I read the sign. I thought we were in Kentucky. My uncles
>> laughed at me.
>
> Oh sure they have KFC and Hardee's, lots of Hardee's. They likely have all
> kinds of other cheap fast-food slop everywhere there are poor folk.

Sadly large portions of TX seem to be the same. I do wish we had Sonic here
though. They have some great sounding sugar free drinks.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>> >
>> >> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
>> >> people we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does
>> >> anyone else do this?
>> >
>> > I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at
>> > Howard Johnson's.
>>
>> I didn't know those were still in business!
>>
>
> There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but
> they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a
> special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed,
> Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter.

I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My dad
said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013015362494424-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 22:39:29 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>
>> Friday's and your birthday were AYCE clam strip nights. Here's the
>> history the HoJo's Clam Strips, a short and sweet read. HoJo's put
>> clam strips on the map.
>
> Coco's (I don't know there geo-range) use to do clam night.

We used to have those here. I think they might still have them in OR.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:52:03 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:55 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>>>> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>>> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>>> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate
>>>> >> spending
>>>> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>>> >
>>>> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an
>>>> >ancient
>>>> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>>>> >take
>>>> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>>>> >again
>>>> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to
>>>> >be
>>>> >repaired.
>>>>
>>>> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists
>>>
>>>Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
>>>friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
>>>condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
>>>drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.
>>
>> Nice cars. There's a few old Bristish makes and models I like, but I'm
>> just not keen/devoted enough to restore one, let alone keep 'em
>> running...
>
>That and his cattle are his 2 major interests. If they bring him the
>pleasure that they so obviously do, then I'm quite prepared to join him and
>be the baggage carrier. He's been good to, and for, me for 40+ years so
>what goes round etc......

Good onya

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:46 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> Sounds interesting, 80 y/o is pretty old! What is it?
>
>she's actually older than that and she looks like this
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosco500/6258640801/

Beautiful, love the bodywork.

>> You never know what you'll find in the least likely places. I know of
>> a TVR and Jenson Interceptor (almost mint condition) that's in an old
>> leaning shed, threatening to collapse on top of both cars. Here in the
>> Tassie bush...
>
>Ah! The proverbial barnfind!
>>
>> Back in the 90's I used to run a small avocado farm in the Sunshine
>> Coast hinterland, my boss was a prominent QC in Brisbane... he was
>> quite eccentric though and insisted on owning a couple of old Rover
>> sedans and a Range Rover. Each and every time he tried to make the
>> trek up to the farm, the Rovers would break down on the way. Not for a
>> lack of maintenance or anything... they would invariably find a way
>> to bugger up no matter what it seemed. Yes, you really do need a
>> masochistic streak to own one IMO
>
>Or have the interest and ability to fettle the sods. Himself can fettle
>quite well whereas I'm not so sure that a QC would be so interested.

Indeed, don't think fettling is his thing.
Good choice of word there, 'fettle'. Seems very appropriate when
talking about old Pommy cars... you can't ever fix 'em but you sure
can fettle 'em

On 2013-01-31 04:33:27 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013015354015798-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 23:14:23 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>
>>> I've never eaten soul food and probably wouldn't. Doesn't sound
>>> appealing. Husband lived in Louisiana so has eaten that stuff and likes
>>> it. But keep in mind that we are far from where soul food is popular.
>>> So I suspect what we have here isn't made properly
>>
>> You're missing ALL my points! Soul food: Like it/hate it--I don't care.
>> I'm just saying I found something that was "a surprise". I found it by
>> looking. Looking involved going into the town a little bit.
>
> Okay but... There are different reasons for taking a road trip.

I'll try to wrap my brain around that concept when I have more time.

Look, I'm not indicating my perspective as something you should do or
not do. I'm just telling my story. Your story seems to be why my story
won't work for you. There is a potential "yeah but" for every statement
I've said, and you've provided one. And sometimes you've provided it
again like I didn't hear it and acknowledge it.

> Sometimes you are just going to see what you can see.

Yeah, but sometimes you aren't.

> Other times you have a destination in mind and don't have the time to deviate.

Yeah, but sometimes you do.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:00:50 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:02 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>>>> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>>>> take
>>>> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>>>> again
>>>> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>>>> repaired.
>>>>
>>> Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
>>> making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.
>>
>> It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so no
>> car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by
>> carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well padded.
>>
>> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
>> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
>>
> Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
> I read from you.

No, she mentioned it 2 replies ago but you just HAD to keep being
annoying about it trying to look for a way out of convincing her she
didn't have to drive all that way for a car part.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:29:51 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:02 +1100, "Farm1" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an
> >> >> ancient
> >> >> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
> >> >> take
> >> >> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
> >> >> again
> >> >> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to
> >> >> be
> >> >> repaired.
> >> >>
> >> > Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
> >> > making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.
> >>
> >> It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so no
> >> car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by
> >> carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well padded.
> >>
> >> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
> >> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
> >>
> > Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
> > I read from you.
>
> No, I didn't mention age. His newest one is about 60 whereas all the rest
> are even older.
>
You did mention age and the reason why I remembered is that 40 or 50
years wouldn't have caught my attention. Honestly, I don't care what
the exact number is - but the age (I have no idea what the rarity is)
justified the time and care you took bringing the part to be repaired
and returning it home, JMO.

See- Message-ID: >

AFAIC: this is the end of this "discussion". You mis-remembered,
which isn't the end of the world and I'm not playing gotcha. I have
no problem it other than I don't like being told I'm making it up when
I didn't.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:08:17 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:40:00 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
> >On 1/30/2013 12:42 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> The whole back of my van is loaded with bags and stuff. We're very green
> >> here so the stores are all urging us to use reusable bags. I used to buy
> >> them for every store but I am phasing those out in lieu of the more
> >> expensive thick plastic ones that last longer and can be washed more easily.
> >> Most of the cloth ones just fall apart when you wash them. But I do have a
> >> nice Target bag made of a thick fabric that washes well.
> >
> >Do you use the proper bags for each store you shop in? ie, you don't
> >use a Piggly Wiggly bag when you go to Costco?
>
> I've gone out of my way to do that. No one has ever made a comment
> though, they just bag the groceries.

I never bother matching bags to the store, but I try to match the
number of bags to the amount I think I'm going to buy and if I go over
- I tell them to put it in the cart because I have more bags in the
car.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:54 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote:
> >
> >> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn.
> >
> > It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't
> > have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are
> > urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places.
> >
> > I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a
> > 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage
> > until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours
> > according to FarmI).
> >
> > Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where
> > that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups
> > again?
> >
> > -sw
> >
> I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like
> that other group, I don't want to check there.

I read it here first. Maybe my news server propagates faster than
yours does. I dunno and I don't care.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:37:34 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Sqwertz wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at
> >> > Howard Johnson's.
> >>
> >> I didn't know those were still in business!
> >>
> >
> > There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but
> > they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a
> > special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed,
> > Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter.
>
> I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My dad
> said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else.
>
Your dad wouldn't eat at Howard Johnson's because the *prices* were
"too high"? Now I've heard everything. "You hear that Elizabeth? I'm
coming to join you honey!"

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-01-31 04:38:12 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013015362494424-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 22:39:29 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>>
>>> Friday's and your birthday were AYCE clam strip nights. Here's the
>>> history the HoJo's Clam Strips, a short and sweet read. HoJo's put
>>> clam strips on the map.
>>
>> Coco's (I don't know their geo-range) use to do clam night.
>
> We used to have those here. I think they might still have them in OR.

But I can't eat there; the menus are too shiny.

On 2013-01-31 05:04:13 +0000, Barbie Achtung said:

>>> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
>>> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
>>>
>> Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
>> I read from you.
>
> No, she mentioned it 2 replies ago but you just HAD to keep being
> annoying about it trying to look for a way out of convincing her she
> didn't have to drive all that way for a car part.

Or not.

On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote:
>
>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said:
>>
>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets
>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also
>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break
>>
>> Well this has all been mighty informative!
>
> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't
> bathrooms"?

NO! I just want oughta here!

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:32:45 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-01-31 05:04:13 +0000, Barbie Achtung said:
>
> >>> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek for
> >>> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away.
> >>>
> >> Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response
> >> I read from you.
> >
> > No, she mentioned it 2 replies ago but you just HAD to keep being
> > annoying about it trying to look for a way out of convincing her she
> > didn't have to drive all that way for a car part.
>
> Or not.

Barbie seems to have a screw loose.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Farm1" > wrote in message
...
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> Farm1 wrote about bringing a basket of provisions on a road trip:
>>
>>> It sure beats eating the kind or stuff available along the road
>>
>> I think that depends on exactly where you are. Would you do the same
>> thing if you were driving through the countryside of France, Spain, or
>> Italy?
>
> No. But those places aren't long haul trip territory.
>
> Here
>> in Northern California, there is some *great* food to be had along the
>> road if you're within about 75 miles of the coast (which includes "wine
>> country"). There's still great food further inland, but you have to know
>> where to find it, and it's not usually anywhere close to the major
>> highways.
>
> On a long haul trip when we needed to cover 1500km in 24 hours there was
> no way we'd be diverting to find some well reviewed eatery.

Indeed!

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:34:40 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>
> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote:
> >
> >> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said:
> >>
> >>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets
> >>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also
> >>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break
> >>
> >> Well this has all been mighty informative!
> >
> > Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't
> > bathrooms"?
>
> NO! I just want oughta here!

It's pretty obvious which aren't bathrooms. They're the ones that are
just glorified outhouses - if they're that fancy and I refuse to use
them, because I never have to go *that* badly.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 1/31/2013 1:08 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:54 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn.
>>>
>>> It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't
>>> have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are
>>> urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places.
>>>
>>> I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a
>>> 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage
>>> until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours
>>> according to FarmI).
>>>
>>> Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where
>>> that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups
>>> again?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like
>> that other group, I don't want to check there.
>
> I read it here first. Maybe my news server propagates faster than
> yours does. I dunno and I don't care.
>
Huh?