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"sf" > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:28:15 -0500, S Viemeister > > wrote: >> > >> In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a bath in >> it. > HGTV House Hunters International is a good one for bringing Americans > up to speed with what kitchens and baths in the rest of the world look > like. Unless it is a super expensive home that emulates American > tastes, their kitchens and baths are not up to American standards. What absolutle rubbish. You either need to travel more or read more blogs. American bloggers who talk abbut their kitchen renovations and show pics of where and what they cook obviously don't inhabit your fatasy world about the glamour and superiority of American kitchens and bathrooms. Just one example from this very ng is the kitchen belonging to Jammin with Melba. There is nothing wrong with her kitchen but it's certainly not as 'glamorous' as many kitchens I've seen here in Oz in both very rural areas or in the city. |
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On 1/31/2013 8:30 PM, Farm1 wrote:
> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013022344079028-xxx@yyyzzz... >> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: >>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >>>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >>>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >>>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >>>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >>>> Well this has all been mighty informative! >>> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >>> bathrooms"? >> NO! I just want oughta here! > > Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the use of > inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a bathroom has a > shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a washbasin? > To be fair, many people don't think of the actual _meaning_ of the word 'bathroom'. In the US, a room with just a toilet and washbasin is frequently called a 'half-bath', and defecating/urinating is sometimes called 'going to the bathroom'. |
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"sf" > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > >> In article >, times says... >> > >> >> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of >> long distance travel/ wild places :-) >> >> Janet UK > > I think that's your own prejudice. So IF is all her own prejudice, why was it so darned impossible for so many of the American's who responded to my posts to understand why I'd need to take a basket on a long haul road trip? The facts remain that England is > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. Yes, England is tiny. But Janet, who is a Brit, figured out why I'd need a basket. So did S. Veimeister. They weren't the only ones as a very few Americans did too but not enough of them to justify your claim that it's all about Janet's prejudices. From Americans came mentions of malls, restaurants, clams, Subways, Starbucks and somoene even whining that they lived in cities. You were a teacher so you should have some understanding of what 'comprehension' means. Most of the Americans doing even the most simple school comprehension test that required them to understand and then repond to what I wrote would have failed. Janet didn't fail even though she was born in that tiny country which geographically has far less in common with Australia than the UK does. |
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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
... > On 1/31/2013 8:30 PM, Farm1 wrote: >> "gtr" > wrote in message >> news:2013013022344079028-xxx@yyyzzz... >>> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >>>>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >>>>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >>>>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >>>>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >>>>> Well this has all been mighty informative! >>>> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >>>> bathrooms"? >>> NO! I just want oughta here! >> >> Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the use >> of >> inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a bathroom has a >> shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a washbasin? >> > To be fair, many people don't think of the actual _meaning_ of the word > 'bathroom'. In the US, a room with just a toilet and washbasin is > frequently called a 'half-bath', and defecating/urinating is sometimes > called 'going to the bathroom'. Yes, I realise they were using a euphemism. Even constant use of euphemisms shouln't preclude sentient beings from being able to think. Surely enough clues should have been given when I mentioned that the toilet wasn't a bathroom. |
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"Bryan" > wrote in message
> I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if you think that! |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
... > On 31/01/2013 12:30 PM, sf wrote: >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: >> >>> In article >, times says... >>>> >>> >>> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of >>> long distance travel/ wild places :-) >>> >>> Janet UK >> >> I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is >> only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state >> here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php >> Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear >> miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. >> > > > I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address on > Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town that my grandmother > was from. He didn't think it was close, saying that it was 50 miles and > would take 2-3 hours to get there from his place. So what is your point? Did he say that going 50 miles was what he considered was long distance travel? Did he say that the place 50 miles away was a wild place? Did he say that he was, or was not, to be held up as an example of UK residents when discussing their knowldege of long haul travel or wild places? What is it about the mention in this thread of Subways, Starbucks, restaurants, malls and living in cities does not trigger any recogniotion that Janet's comments in this thread were pertinent whereas most of the comments form those who live where there is a much closer geographical commonality with Australia were, and sadly seem to remain, totally clueless? |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > On 1/31/2013 11:03 AM, sf wrote: >> I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from >> the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good measure. >> Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a **** or went >> for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet what it is: a >> toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies room or the john >> when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa used to say he was >> going to see a man about a horse, but nobody talks like that anymore. >> >> Much of the world doesn't have anything near the size or complexity of >> our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that >> would be used to house multiple people in some countries. > > HGTV is not indicative of a classic American bathroom. Those people have > more money than sense. Or they have no money but expect to be able to buy > what they've seen on television. Heh. Too many shows on TV are like that. The sad thing is that many people buy into the fantasy. > Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much time > does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I don't know > about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. I just wish the bath didn't seemto always end up with so much dust and dead flying bugs in it so quickly. I seem to be always cleaning it out and not ever having had a bath in it in between times. Note to self: check to see if dead bugs comment will result in 'you're a filthy mare' type responses. |
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Julie Bove" wrote: >> >> I did use the tub when we first moved in. It's a huge, jetted one. >> But... The water heater we have isn't big enough to provide enough >> hot water to fill the thing. So you'd have to choose between a hot >> bath with no jets or a warm one with. > > Was obviously designed for group bathing, the more bodies the less > water. Ohhh... You're probably right! Would easily hold two. Not sure if more would fit in there. I was just thinking of how I would design my perfect bathroom. Would have a small soaking tub and a shower much like I have now (walk in) but placed in a different spot so that you can actually get by the glass door when it is open if you need to for whatever reason. Would have plenty of storage and light fixtures that were actually easy to access. Every single light in that bathroom requires the use of a stepstool. And there are faaar too many over the sink. I think there are 18 round bulbs there. Idiot who owned this house before was an electrician and seemingly a bad one at that. Put those lights on and not only will you blind yourself but you won't need any heat on in there at all. I would also put in some sort of alcove that was bigger than I actually needed so I could not only put the oversized litter box for the kittehs but also store the jug of litter and the disposal bags. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the > use of inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a > bathroom has a shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a > washbasin? > Oh wait, 2 people already failed to figure that out. Oddly enough such places are also often called restrooms but most of them no longer have the resting areas. I don't know if they put those in the male ones but the female ones used to have a room just off of where the toilets and sinks were that had furniture in it. Often it was fancy couches and chairs, a coffee table, ashtrays (back when smoking was common) and there might even be vending machines. They might also have another room just off of that where they had a long counter or two with mirrors and vanity stools so that we could touch up our makeup. If they didn't have the room with the furniture they would usually at least have the vanity part. In more recent years, some of the furniture rooms would even have a TV. They no longer seem to put such areas in there any more. Once in a while you'll still see them in an older building. |
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S Viemeister wrote:
> To be fair, many people don't think of the actual _meaning_ of the > word 'bathroom'. In the US, a room with just a toilet and washbasin is > frequently called a 'half-bath', and defecating/urinating is sometimes > called 'going to the bathroom'. And in some parts of the country those are called "powder rooms". Then there is that old story that probably isn't true about the girlfriend visiting her boyfriend's parent's house for the first time. She has to pee so asks where the powder room is? Must to her dismay after she finds, it there is only a little sink in there and no toilet. She has to go badly so decides to pee in the sink. But when she sits on it the sink breaks off the wall. Can't tell you how many places I read that story at when I was a kid. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> > Yes, I realise they were using a euphemism. Even constant use of > euphemisms shouln't preclude sentient beings from being able to > think. Surely enough clues should have been given when I mentioned > that the toilet wasn't a bathroom. I see an awful lot of British and Australian slang being used here and other places. It can be hard for us Americans to know what is meant by that too. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:28:15 -0500, S Viemeister >> > wrote: >>>> >>> In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a >>> bath in it. > >> HGTV House Hunters International is a good one for bringing Americans >> up to speed with what kitchens and baths in the rest of the world >> look like. Unless it is a super expensive home that emulates >> American tastes, their kitchens and baths are not up to American >> standards. > > What absolutle rubbish. > > You either need to travel more or read more blogs. American bloggers > who talk abbut their kitchen renovations and show pics of where and > what they cook obviously don't inhabit your fatasy world about the > glamour and superiority of American kitchens and bathrooms. > > Just one example from this very ng is the kitchen belonging to Jammin > with Melba. There is nothing wrong with her kitchen but it's > certainly not as 'glamorous' as many kitchens I've seen here in Oz in > both very rural areas or in the city. My kitchen is neither glamorous or large. In fact none of the ones we saw were in the houses that were in our price range. One did have nice granite countertops but the kitchen itself was quite odd as was the house! It belonged to a bunch of musicians and they had this raised area off of the kitchen with music stands there and a piano which was obviously where they played. The front doors were double and glass. Very fancy. Once inside, there was sort of a big waste of space of tiled floors. Beyond that was the kitchen which did appear fancy but... Instead of having what I would call an island such as in the middle of the kitchen, the island with sink and burners was just sort of there for all to see. It was oddly shaped. I can't remember where the oven was. The rest of it went at an odd angle and had very few cupboards either below the granite counter tops or above. There was no pantry. That danged thing was at least half the size of what I have now and that's small! It was a very open design. I can't imagine anyone who actually cooked owning such a kitchen. Just wouldn't be big enough to store much in the way or food or things to cook it in or serve it on. I don't recall any sort of dining area and there certainly was no place in that kitchen. There were two full baths and four odd bedrooms. All were small and had built areas where the beds went. Like platforms. And there was an odder still built in area at the long side of the beds where the wall would have been. Had like this sort of flap thing that pulled down over the bed and was meant apparently for storage. But it looked to be made of old scrap wood and it had been badly painted. I think the window was up above that. The whole thing was so ugly and dirty and weird looking that I didn't want to poke around in there much. There were tiny closets but they had no doors to them. I do remember some built in shelves at one end of the house but they were totally open. No doors. No closet of any kind with doors like a linen or coat closet. There were two full baths, one at either end of the house and they were nice. Good sized and pretty lavish. But odder still there was no area that appeared to be a family room or living room. Just some tiled areas on either side of the kitchen. There was a bathroom and two bedrooms at either end of the house. But probably the worst part for me was that the entry door was placed up high and there were no real steps or porch or whatever to get inside. Someone had built something of rickety wood that wasn't even very large. You had to kind of hoist yourself up on that and although it was sort of designed as two kind of pseudo steps, it certainly didn't look or feel safe. No sort of railing or anything to hang onto at all. We all just sort of whipped through that house as quickly as possible and wondered why the real estate agent even bothered to show it to us. Very weird because although it did have lavish touches like the tiled floors, the materials used in the kitchen and baths, and the front doors, the rest of it literally looked like crap. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: >> >>> In article >, times >>> says... >>>> >>> >>> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept >>> of long distance travel/ wild places :-) >>> >>> Janet UK >> >> I think that's your own prejudice. > > So IF is all her own prejudice, why was it so darned impossible for > so many of the American's who responded to my posts to understand why > I'd need to take a basket on a long haul road trip? > > The facts remain that England is >> only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized >> state here and we have 49 more of them >> http://www.theus50.com/area.php Additionally, the distance from >> London to Rome is only 889.34 linear miles and the distance between >> coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > Yes, England is tiny. But Janet, who is a Brit, figured out why I'd > need a basket. So did S. Veimeister. They weren't the only ones as > a very few Americans did too but not enough of them to justify your > claim that it's all about Janet's prejudices. > > From Americans came mentions of malls, restaurants, clams, Subways, > Starbucks and somoene even whining that they lived in cities. > > You were a teacher so you should have some understanding of what > 'comprehension' means. Most of the Americans doing even the most > simple school comprehension test that required them to understand and > then repond to what I wrote would have failed. > > Janet didn't fail even though she was born in that tiny country which > geographically has far less in common with Australia than the UK does. I don't know how it is in other countries but here there are some people who actually like to go to malls, fast food places and chain restaurants. I am not one of them. In fact I can pretty much get anything I want or need without ever stepping foot into a mall. And I can probably get it for less money! When my daughter was younger, I did have to take her there once or twice a year to get her feet measured because the Nordstroms there is the only place I trust to measure the feet properly. And we did go there recently to get my husband a good pair of dress shoes. They are one of the better places for buying shoes, especially if you need something special like a wide or narrow width. I have a friend who lives near that Mall of America. I don't know if you've ever seen pics of it or not. Used to be a show on TV about it. I think it was called Mall Cops or something. I belive the place is open 24 hours a day at least for part of the year. To me the place looked like a nightmare. Purported to be the biggest mall ever. Store after store. Probably video arcades and places for kids to play. Chain restaurants and places that sell crappy foods and drinks like Orange Julius (whipped orange juice and milk), bloated up soft pretzels and bad, giant cinnamon rolls and chocolate chip cookies. She goes there all the time with her kids and just loves the place. When I was younger, we did go to the malls a lot. Perhaps because we didn't have a lot of other choices for shopping. But these days we do. And of course there is the Internet. I can order stuff from drugstore.com at 2:00 a.m., earn Swagbucks for doing it plus get drugstore.com dollars to redeem later and get my package of goods by noon the next afternoon! The package doesn't always arrive that quickly but most of the time it does arrive within two days. I am saving not only money by doing this but gas and time! I don't even know where I am actually going with all of this. Except perhaps that I am not the typical American. Stuff that is supposed to appeal to the masses like a giant mall or a chain restaurant holds little to no appeal to me. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... >> On 31/01/2013 12:30 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: >>> >>>> In article >, times >>>> says... >>>>> >>>> >>>> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no >>>> concept of long distance travel/ wild places :-) >>>> >>>> Janet UK >>> >>> I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is >>> only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized >>> state here and we have 49 more of them >>> http://www.theus50.com/area.php Additionally, the distance from >>> London to Rome is only 889.34 linear miles and the distance between >>> coasts here is a bit over 2,000. >> >> >> I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address on >> Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town >> that my grandmother was from. He didn't think it was close, saying >> that it was 50 miles and would take 2-3 hours to get there from his >> place. > > So what is your point? > > Did he say that going 50 miles was what he considered was long > distance travel? Did he say that the place 50 miles away was a wild > place? Did he say that he was, or was not, to be held up as an > example of UK residents when discussing their knowldege of long haul > travel or wild places? > What is it about the mention in this thread of Subways, Starbucks, > restaurants, malls and living in cities does not trigger any > recogniotion that Janet's comments in this thread were pertinent > whereas most of the comments form those who live where there is a > much closer geographical commonality with Australia were, and sadly > seem to remain, totally clueless? Here in the US it really depends on where you live as to what you could see in say a 50 mile radius. Here in a suburb of Seattle, you could see quite a lot. Plenty of beaches, malls, antique shops, tourist attactions, theaters, restaurants, you name it. But go to the center of some place like Wyoming or parts of Utah or Montana and there isn't a lot there. I wouldn't even call where I live, living in the city. Yes it is a city but it's not like a downtown type area. It's all really sprawling and spread out and you can drive for many miles here and only see houses. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 1/31/2013 11:03 AM, sf wrote: >>> I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from >>> the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good >>> measure. Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a >>> **** or went for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet >>> what it is: a toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies >>> room or the john when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa >>> used to say he was going to see a man about a horse, but nobody >>> talks like that anymore. Much of the world doesn't have anything near >>> the size or complexity >>> of our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that >>> would be used to house multiple people in some countries. >> >> HGTV is not indicative of a classic American bathroom. Those people >> have more money than sense. Or they have no money but expect to be >> able to buy what they've seen on television. Heh. > > Too many shows on TV are like that. The sad thing is that many > people buy into the fantasy. > >> Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much >> time does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I >> don't know about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. > > I just wish the bath didn't seemto always end up with so much dust > and dead flying bugs in it so quickly. I seem to be always cleaning > it out and not ever having had a bath in it in between times. > > > > > > > > > > Note to self: check to see if dead bugs comment will result in > 'you're a filthy mare' type responses. My tub gets like that too! Not the dead bugs really although sometimes in the Spring we do get these tiny brown beetle type things that come from I don't know where. Obviously somewhere in the vicinity of the tub. They're like lady bugs but much smaller. Almost like a carpet beetle but not. They don't move very fast or go very far. I will see one to three on the wall near the tub or toilet. And then I dispose of them. But... Seeing as how I only use my tub now for hand wash. And the only things I hand wash any more are my compression hose and bras... I don't see where the dirt is coming from. Unless perhaps it is on the cat's feet. Their litter box is in there. I keep seeing what looks like brown dirt in the bottom of the tub. And it's not from potted plants because I got rid of them all after I found out that the cats were eating them! The only other thing I can think of is that it could be the granular stuff that I sometimes use in the drain. That tub tends towards a slow draining drain for whatever reason. Plumber sold me some stuff to help with that. You mix it with warm water and pour it down the drain monthly. I did notice that the last time I scrubbed the tub and put that stuff in, some little brown chunks came back up into the tub. I did use the stuff several days in a row this time and it is draining better. So perhaps something was backing up from the drain? Dunno. |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:31:58 PM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote:
> "Bryan" > wrote in message > > > > > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > > > > LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if you > > think that! I was joking, but I really have little interest in cities. I love wide open spaces. England is a lot like the USA, or better stated, the USA is a lot like England. Australia, Canada (except Quebec) and New Zealand are all like England culturally, almost as much as the rest of the UK. I'm an Anglo, but not an Anglophile. --Bryan |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > If the size of Britain bears no relation to what Brits mean by long > distance travel..... what do they consider long distance travel to be? > I can drive for a day and a half without to get out of my province, or I > can go in a different direction and be in another country in 20 minutes. What country would that be, Dave? ;) |
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On 2013-02-01 02:45:11 +0000, Farm1 said:
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... >> I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address >> on Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town that my >> grandmother was from. He didn't think it was close, saying that it was >> 50 miles and would take 2-3 hours to get there from his place. > > So what is your point? > > Did he say that going 50 miles was what he considered was long distance > travel? Did he say that the place 50 miles away was a wild place? Whatever he's saying it's sounds pretty insulting, doesn't it. Downright rude I'd think! |
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On 2013-02-01 04:02:56 +0000, Bryan said:
> On Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:31:58 PM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote: >> "Bryan" > wrote in message >> >>> I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) >> >> LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if >> you>> think that! > > I was joking, That's a joke?!? It sounded like unrependant arrogance! Arrogance I say! ;-) |
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On 2013-02-01 03:18:23 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> Farm1 wrote: >> >> Yes, I realise they were using a euphemism. Even constant use of >> euphemisms shouln't preclude sentient beings from being able to think. Well now that sounds like rudeness! We say "bathroom" when we mean "room that includes the toilet". I think it's one of many thousand words that have been turned about a bit. It's never really been a reason to show contempt for others, though. Yet. >> Surely enough clues should have been given when I mentioned that the >> toilet wasn't a bathroom. I think there was, yes. I don't know why you've made such an issue of it. Just say "the crapper" and I think everybody will be wise. > I see an awful lot of British and Australian slang being used here and > other places. It can be hard for us Americans to know what is meant by > that too. That's no ignorance, it's arrogance! |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:31:58 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > "Bryan" > wrote in message > > > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > > LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if you > think that! > Bryan thinks what he thinks and he thinks it's the absolute truth. No one will convince him otherwise because that's the way he is. Honestly, if he wants to experience other parts - he will not be disappointed... but ignoring London will be his loss. Unfortunate, he has a limited amount of time he can spend and London takes at least a week if it's done right... longer if it's done better. :) My advice to any first timer is to take a day or two to get your bearings and then take a "circle tour" on public transport. It's a real eye opener! We did it on our last day and it made us eager to return. We took the "slow" water bus (not an express) on our last day in Venice and it was memorable. Much, much better than paying beaucoup bucks to ride in a gondola and have someone sing to you. The water bus passed by many of those gondolas, so we had the experience for free... multiple times. :) -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:03:24 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > > > >> In article >, times says... > >> > > >> > >> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > >> long distance travel/ wild places :-) > >> > >> Janet UK > > > > I think that's your own prejudice. > > So IF is all her own prejudice, why was it so darned impossible for so many > of the American's who responded to my posts to understand why I'd need to > take a basket on a long haul road trip? > > The facts remain that England is > > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > Yes, England is tiny. But Janet, who is a Brit, figured out why I'd need a > basket. So did S. Veimeister. They weren't the only ones as a very few > Americans did too but not enough of them to justify your claim that it's all > about Janet's prejudices. > > From Americans came mentions of malls, restaurants, clams, Subways, > Starbucks and somoene even whining that they lived in cities. > > You were a teacher so you should have some understanding of what > 'comprehension' means. Most of the Americans doing even the most simple > school comprehension test that required them to understand and then repond > to what I wrote would have failed. > > Janet didn't fail even though she was born in that tiny country which > geographically has far less in common with Australia than the UK does. > To be honest, the responses I saw where only gently ribbing you, and nothing was heartfelt. As far as I know, every one of the responders (was there more than one or two?) knows as well as I do how remote most of Australia is, so I found it funny. We have interstates where people who are going from point A to point B with as few interruptions as possible (with no fast food) would pack their own food. Maybe I'm wrong and they really, really think the Australian outback is like going through farmland in California - but I honestly don't think they're that dumb. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:36:58 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > > long distance travel/ wild places :-) > > Indeed. Stereotyping is nothing new. Brits like Janet do it all the time to Americans. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:50:21 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > I just wish the bath didn't seemto always end up with so much dust and dead > flying bugs in it so quickly. I seem to be always cleaning it out and not > ever having had a bath in it in between times. Mine collects dust too. Fortunately, I have two 2 year old granddaughters who love to take baths - so my tub is in good use for now. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:32:13 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:34:40 -0800, gtr > wrote: > > > >> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: > >> > >> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: > >> >> > >> >>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets > >> >>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also > >> >>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break > >> >> > >> >> Well this has all been mighty informative! > >> > > >> > Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't > >> > bathrooms"? > >> > >> NO! I just want oughta here! > > > > It's pretty obvious which aren't bathrooms. They're the ones that are > > just glorified outhouses - if they're that fancy and I refuse to use > > them, because I never have to go *that* badly. > > LOL. You too failed the euphemism test. > I wasn't going for a euphemism. I was talking about reality. Apparently you failed that. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:26:10 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote: > "S Viemeister" > wrote in message > ... > > On 1/31/2013 8:30 PM, Farm1 wrote: > >> "gtr" > wrote in message > >> news:2013013022344079028-xxx@yyyzzz... > >>> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: > >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: > >>>>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: > >>>>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets > >>>>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also > >>>>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break > >>>>> Well this has all been mighty informative! > >>>> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't > >>>> bathrooms"? > >>> NO! I just want oughta here! > >> > >> Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the use > >> of > >> inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a bathroom has a > >> shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a washbasin? > >> > > To be fair, many people don't think of the actual _meaning_ of the word > > 'bathroom'. In the US, a room with just a toilet and washbasin is > > frequently called a 'half-bath', and defecating/urinating is sometimes > > called 'going to the bathroom'. > > Yes, I realise they were using a euphemism. Even constant use of euphemisms > shouln't preclude sentient beings from being able to think. Surely enough > clues should have been given when I mentioned that the toilet wasn't a > bathroom. > Why should we care? -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:26:20 -0800, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 02:45:11 +0000, Farm1 said: > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > > >> I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address > >> on Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town that my > >> grandmother was from. He didn't think it was close, saying that it was > >> 50 miles and would take 2-3 hours to get there from his place. > > > > So what is your point? > > > > Did he say that going 50 miles was what he considered was long distance > > travel? Did he say that the place 50 miles away was a wild place? > > Whatever he's saying it's sounds pretty insulting, doesn't it. > Downright rude I'd think! Yeah rude. Heh. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:29:09 -0800, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 04:02:56 +0000, Bryan said: > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:31:58 PM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote: > >> "Bryan" > wrote in message > >> > >>> I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > >> > >> LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if > >> you>> think that! > > > > I was joking, > > That's a joke?!? It sounded like unrependant arrogance! Arrogance I say! ;-) > LOL -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:34:06 -0800, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 03:18:23 +0000, Julie Bove said: > > > Farm1 wrote: > >> > >> Yes, I realise they were using a euphemism. Even constant use of > >> euphemisms shouln't preclude sentient beings from being able to think. > > Well now that sounds like rudeness! We say "bathroom" when we mean > "room that includes the toilet". I think it's one of many thousand > words that have been turned about a bit. It's never really been a > reason to show contempt for others, though. Yet. > > >> Surely enough clues should have been given when I mentioned that the > >> toilet wasn't a bathroom. > > I think there was, yes. I don't know why you've made such an issue of > it. Just say "the crapper" and I think everybody will be wise. > > > I see an awful lot of British and Australian slang being used here and > > other places. It can be hard for us Americans to know what is meant by > > that too. > > That's no ignorance, it's arrogance! Americans are so stupid. We should be shot on sight by the more cultured of cultures. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:36:58 +1100, "Farm1" > > wrote: > >> > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of >> > long distance travel/ wild places :-) >> >> Indeed. > > Stereotyping is nothing new. Brits like Janet do it all the time to > Americans. Quite true. |
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Farm1 wrote:
> > Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the use of > inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a bathroom has a > shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a washbasin? > > Oh wait, 2 people already failed to figure that out. In the USA, just a toilet and a washbasin (sink) is known as a half bath but even those are refered to as "bathrooms" at restaurants, etc. We don't wash our hands in a toilet here. ;) |
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> > Farm1 wrote: > > "sf" > wrote in message > > ... > >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > >> > >>> In article >, times > >>> says... > >>>> > >>> > >>> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept > >>> of long distance travel/ wild places :-) > >>> > >>> Janet UK > >> > >> I think that's your own prejudice. > > > > So IF is all her own prejudice, why was it so darned impossible for > > so many of the American's who responded to my posts to understand why > > I'd need to take a basket on a long haul road trip? > > > > The facts remain that England is > >> only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized > >> state here and we have 49 more of them > >> http://www.theus50.com/area.php Additionally, the distance from > >> London to Rome is only 889.34 linear miles and the distance between > >> coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > > > Yes, England is tiny. But Janet, who is a Brit, figured out why I'd > > need a basket. So did S. Veimeister. They weren't the only ones as > > a very few Americans did too but not enough of them to justify your > > claim that it's all about Janet's prejudices. > > > > From Americans came mentions of malls, restaurants, clams, Subways, > > Starbucks and somoene even whining that they lived in cities. > > > > You were a teacher so you should have some understanding of what > > 'comprehension' means. Most of the Americans doing even the most > > simple school comprehension test that required them to understand and > > then repond to what I wrote would have failed. > > > > Janet didn't fail even though she was born in that tiny country which > > geographically has far less in common with Australia than the UK does. > > I don't know how it is in other countries Very obviously, from your expert tutorial on global bathrooms and kitchens > but here there are some people who > actually like to go to malls, fast food places and chain restaurants. So what? That should not mean they are incapable of understanding that there's a world beyond malls, fast food and chain restaurants Janet UK |
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"Janet" > wrote in message T... > > Very obviously, from your expert tutorial on global bathrooms and > kitchens > >> but here there are some people who >> actually like to go to malls, fast food places and chain restaurants. > > So what? That should not mean they are incapable of understanding > that there's a world beyond malls, fast food and chain restaurants But some people don't like to venture far from home. Just because there are other counties out there doesn't mean I want to visit them. Especially if some of the people who post here represent how most people are in that country! |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:29:09 PM UTC-6, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-02-01 04:02:56 +0000, Bryan said: > > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:31:58 PM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote: > > >> "Bryan" > wrote in message > > >> > > >>> I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > > >> > > >> LOL. Well you'll are in for a major, and very pleasant, surprise if > > >> you>> think that! > > > > > > I was joking, > > > > That's a joke?!? It sounded like unrependant arrogance! > Arrogance I say! ;-) What does "unrependant" mean? --Bryan |
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