On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> That's why
> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that is
> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>
I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
until it drains just to be able to get out?

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:30:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On 2013-02-01 21:51:42 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> >>> The very outside of the tub, facing the toilet is carpeted. Yes,
> >>> carpeted. Same carpet that leads into the bathroom and that is in this
> >>> room. Why? Dunno. From there, there is a flat edge of maybe 4". Flat
> >
> > I can't imagine a tub that is carpeted on the outside. Really, can't
> > imagine it.
>
> I couldn't either. I looked at it better after I gave the approximate
> dimensions and I was somewhat wrong. The edge of the tub is a tad wider.
> But not entirely flat. Has sort of beveled edges. I have no clue why they
> put that carpeted thing around it. Or why there is this odd, wedge shaped
> piece of ugly beige carpet that leads into the bathroom. Of course I
> immediately spilled haircolor on it. Then there was the day that Angela
> flooded the bathrooom. I had a non skid mat in the shower that tended to
> block the drain if you weren't careful. And she wasn't and didn't realize
> that it was all flooding out until it happened. Thankfully we do have a
> shop vac but I wasn't too happy.
>
People have weird tastes. Back when we were looking for a house to
buy, we saw one with carpet on the walls and doors. The only thing I
could come up with was that they must have had cats.

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:51:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I would really have to take a pic to show you what I mean but I am not a pic
> person. Yes I have a phone in my camera and another on my Ipad but no clue
> how to get those pics onto this computer. Had some sort of cord with my old
> phone to do that but this one didn't come with one.

You can buy those cords at radio shack or the computer/camera section
of any big box store. To get pictures off your phone without sending
them to yourself first, you'll need a memory card and a usb card
reader.

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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:12:10 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Janet" > wrote in message
> > T...
> > > In article >, says...
> > >>
> > >> "Janet" > wrote in message
> > >> T...
> > >> >
> > >> > Someone has to ask.. why do you get in the bath fully clothed with
> > >> > shoes on?
> > >>
> > >> To clean it. How do you clean yours?
> > >
> > > When I'm not in it, of course.
> >
> > Well then you obviously don't have a tub that is as large as mine. There
> > really is no way to clean it very well *without* getting in it! I do have a
> > long handled brush/sponge thingie but the span is just too far to reach and
> > scrub at the same time. And forget the back edge. You can't reach that at
> > all.
>
> You're assuming all bathrooms are as small/ badly laid out as yours,
> and have the bath trapped in a corner against the wall.
>
She was talking about her own situation, not yours. What can't you
understand about that?

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> That's why
>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that is
>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>
> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>
My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That's why
>>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that
>>> is
>>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>>
>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>>
> My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.

Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?


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I have been surviving winter so just now catching up on the ?basket?
thread lol.

When I was young Mother did put together such a basket-though not in the
wicker sense.

We always had one when we went to the city gathering spot on the 4th of
July to watch fireworks-a picnic box/sack/basket essentially.

Grandparent's farm was only an hour away from the city so we didnt need
one for those weekend trips, but every summer we left our home at 4am on
a Saturday (we were a station wagen family) and drove north 12hrs to our
rented vacation lake resort cabin to stay for a week. So I have memories
of Mom reaching over the front seat while on the road to hand us cheese
sandwiches on Wonder bread. :-) I was always car sick so I was forced to
lie down in the back of the wagen on those trips because the dr told her
that would help. Today of course I know the real problem was my parents
smoked...Dad pipe, Mom cigarettes Blech!

We were also a camping family so I have similar memories to Jill. I
remember our old army tent with wooden poles like closet poles and rain
eventually would soak thru the old heavy canvas. We progressed to one of
those pull behind fold out campers (brother slept on the floor lol) then
Dad built a pickup camper with a hydraulic lift in it so we could stand
up inside (by then my siblings were grown so it was just the 3 of us and
I slept on the floor lol) then a river cabin and after I left home a 5th
wheel followed by a lake retirement home.

The box/sack/basket over time became a camping cooler. Those first Oscar
coolers were great for this-I still carry one in the car.

PBS has been playing a special filmed in England on castles and there is
one helicopter shot showing 3 villages in close proximity to a
castle-breathtaking vistas and I would love to visit the Great Britain
of that imagery-I have no desire to visit CITIES-too many people. I am
always curious what the natives viewpoint is in those tourist desirable
countries-do you feel overrun by tourism? No one in their right mind
would want to be a tourist where I live lol.

On 02/02/2013 10:22 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>>
> My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.


Yech. I am reminded of the shower I had the day I was released from the
hospital after heart surgery. I had been in the hospital for 8 days and
after a few days was able to give myself a sponge bath each day. When I
was released I was able to have a shower, but no a bath. I was still
really week and heavily medicated so my wife had to help. Despite the
house being nice and warm, I was shivering horribly. It is a bad memory.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:26:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's why
> >>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that
> >>> is
> >>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
> >>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
> >>>
> >> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
> >> until it drains just to be able to get out?
> >>
> > My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.
>
> Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?
>
http://www.wibco.com/ Having to wait for it to drain before you can
get out is exactly what we're talking about.

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On 2/2/2013 10:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's why
>>>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that
>>>> is
>>>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the
>>>> door on
>>>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>>>
>>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>>>
>> My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.
>
> Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?
>
Yes, they have drains - bu the tubs are very deep, with doors. You have
to wait until the water drains away, before opening the door to get out.
<http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.acessinc.com/images/clip_image002_002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.acessinc.com/bathtubs_with_door.htm&h=576&w=667&sz=31&tbnid=VqR sO73t8vx0jM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=104&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbathtub%2Bwith%2Bdoor%26tbm%3Disch%26 tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bathtub+with+door&usg=__ryIMG77SH ULO92rsbuWk8PigeIY=&docid=j35_O1-a4YlPVM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4zsNUbn5IuW80QGokoDQCA&ved=0 CGAQ9QEwBA&dur=4474>

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/2/2013 10:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's why
>>>>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub
>>>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the
>>>>> door on
>>>>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>>>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>>>>
>>> My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.
>>
>> Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?
>>
> Yes, they have drains - bu the tubs are very deep, with doors. You have to
> wait until the water drains away, before opening the door to get out.
> <http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.acessinc.com/images/clip_image002_002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.acessinc.com/bathtubs_with_door.htm&h=576&w=667&sz=31&tbnid=VqR sO73t8vx0jM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=104&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbathtub%2Bwith%2Bdoor%26tbm%3Disch%26 tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bathtub+with+door&usg=__ryIMG77SH ULO92rsbuWk8PigeIY=&docid=j35_O1-a4YlPVM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4zsNUbn5IuW80QGokoDQCA&ved=0 CGAQ9QEwBA&dur=4474>

The showers and baths with doors I have seen around here, drain just as fast
as any
bath/shower.
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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:26:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> That's why
>> >>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub
>> >>> that
>> >>> is
>> >>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door
>> >>> on
>> >>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>> >>>
>> >> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> >> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>> >>
>> > My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.
>>
>> Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?
>>
> http://www.wibco.com/ Having to wait for it to drain before you can
> get out is exactly what we're talking about.

Good grief!
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What is next? Oh, bathtubs.

I completely understand Julie's description of her bathtub. I had
visited a friend out of state who had just moved into her new perfect
dream home. She knew I have a thing for baths and kept telling me I
would have to have a bath in her new jacuzzi tub...with her babes. It
was big enough for 4 adults to sit in it. It was exceedingly dangerous
and awkward to get in or out of it. After about 3 minutes in the tub the
younger babe pooped. My dream home will never have a tub like that lol.
Hers eventually became a laundry basket for dirty clothes!

Mom and Dad have a walk-in sit-down jetted soaking tub complete with a
door. It actually sits high off the floor and you have to step down
while exiting thru the door which isn't actually a safety feature for
the elderly! I tried it once. You will love it if you are 4 foot tall.
My family ranged from 5'9" to 6'5" (the nephew is now 6'7") Don't buy
one :-)

My current humble abode would win America's Ugliest Smallest Bathroom
and Kitchen award. I judge the quality of a motel by what the bathroom
is like :-)

My mother always wanted a powder room. Back then a powder room was a
sink and toilet in a small room, by the front door, next to the guest
closet, and all only used by guests. Decorated with a pretty little oval
hanging mirror and little round soaps in a pretty dish lol.

Half-bath is just a modern reinvention of the term powder room.
Personally I always have thought the toilet room should be completely
separate from the batheing room. The batheing room should be large like
a locker room.

I love bathes. I like soaking tubs but the jacuzzis gross me out. A
large luxurious bathroom sounds wonderful-but you do need to be able to
design it to your tastes or you will always find something wrong with
it.

When I was in junior high, on a Fri night I would fill the upstairs
bathtub with hot water-it was a modern porcelain cast iron tub with an
unusually wide edge that could hold a folded towel, and you could sit
down on the edge and swing your legs around into the tub and slowly ease
yourself down into the water. The water handles were up higher on the
wall and I could add more hot water using my toes :-) It had a slanted
back at a perfect angle (many tubs have lousy backs on them.) I would
carry the small tv into the bathroom close the toilet lid and set the tv
on the lid and plug it into the plug on the light over the sink. I would
take a two-three hour long bath reading a book and then watch Johnny
Carson. Heaven. Worth the risk of electrocution :-)

I think the last topic was language. Well-read people have large
vocabularies. Those words naturally creep into your conversations. Many
less-educated and/or not as well-read people consider it snobbish when
people use big words/exotic words that they don't know. The reality is
that it makes them feel defensive, but there was no intent to make them
feel that way. When a comment is made to me, I always suggest they read
romance paperbacks to increase their vocabulary :-)

Those tubs drain exceedingly fast-it is a column of water so the water
pressure to drain is higher than a normal tub. Plus the door is not
level with the floor of the tub.

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:22:32 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That's why
>>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that is
>>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>>
>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>>
>My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.

wouldn't you be 'standing there drying off' as the tub empties?

No experience-- just wondering.

Jim
[I would guess you need a 50-75 gallon water heater, though. They
hold about 40 gallons- so by the time you dump 30 gallons of water in
a 40gallon tank, you're getting cool water.]

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:12:10 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >, says...
> > >
> > > "Janet" > wrote in message
> > > T...
> > > > In article >, says...
> > > >>
> > > >> "Janet" > wrote in message
> > > >> T...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Someone has to ask.. why do you get in the bath fully clothed with
> > > >> > shoes on?
> > > >>
> > > >> To clean it. How do you clean yours?
> > > >
> > > > When I'm not in it, of course.
> > >
> > > Well then you obviously don't have a tub that is as large as mine. There
> > > really is no way to clean it very well *without* getting in it! I do have a
> > > long handled brush/sponge thingie but the span is just too far to reach and
> > > scrub at the same time. And forget the back edge. You can't reach that at
> > > all.
> >
> > You're assuming all bathrooms are as small/ badly laid out as yours,
> > and have the bath trapped in a corner against the wall.
> >
> She was talking about her own situation, not yours.

No, she was asking about how I clean mine , when told she replied "you
obviously don't have a tub as big as mine"

Do read before inserting foot in mouth.

Janet

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> That's why
>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that
>> is
>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>
> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
> until it drains just to be able to get out?

Well, they do have some that drain in 80-90 seconds, or so they say.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 15:26:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2/2/2013 10:02 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> That's why
>> >>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub
>> >>> that
>> >>> is
>> >>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door
>> >>> on
>> >>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>> >>>
>> >> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> >> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>> >>
>> > My thoughts exactly. Sitting there shivering.
>>
>> Why? Do those tubs not have a drain?
>>
> http://www.wibco.com/ Having to wait for it to drain before you can
> get out is exactly what we're talking about.


http://www.amazon.com/Walk-Bathtub-A.../dp/B00187XWYK

but not cheap by any means.

Cheri

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:38:27 -0600, (z z) wrote:

> Those tubs drain exceedingly fast-it is a column of water so the water
> pressure to drain is higher than a normal tub. Plus the door is not
> level with the floor of the tub.

The one that's advertised around here is exactly like the one Sheila
posted, which looks like it's level with the floor of the tub. The
others are effectively. If the weren't then why would anyone with
mobility issues want one?

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On 2013-02-02 15:11:32 +0000, sf said:

> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:12:10 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> T...
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>>> T...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone has to ask.. why do you get in the bath fully clothed with
>>>>>> shoes on?
>>>>>
>>>>> To clean it. How do you clean yours?
>>>>
>>>> When I'm not in it, of course.
>>>
>>> Well then you obviously don't have a tub that is as large as mine. There
>>> really is no way to clean it very well *without* getting in it! I do have a
>>> long handled brush/sponge thingie but the span is just too far to reach and
>>> scrub at the same time. And forget the back edge. You can't reach that at
>>> all.
>>
>> You're assuming all bathrooms are as small/ badly laid out as yours,
>> and have the bath trapped in a corner against the wall.
>>
> She was talking about her own situation, not yours. What can't you
> understand about that?

No room for carping with that viewpoint.

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:45:25 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

> wouldn't you be 'standing there drying off' as the tub empties?

I'd be the one who dropped my towel into the still draining water; so
I'd need to spend even more time while I'm still sopping wet and cold
digging another towel out of the linen closet.... and doing it slowly
due to the mobility issues that prompted me to buy one of those things
in the first place. No thanks. I'll take a walk in shower with a
built in bench and hand held shower any day.
http://www.showersplus.com/images/PancakeHandheld.jpg

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On 2013-02-02 15:02:02 +0000, sf said:

> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> That's why
>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that is
>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>
> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
> until it drains just to be able to get out?

There has been advertising for baths for the elderly, particularly on
late-night television. The tub is much deeper and not as long. More or
less like a Japanese tub. There is a bench in it and a little door. So
you open the door, sit down, turn on the water and bath that way. Less
potential for falls. "Did you know tha there are 5 thousand falls in
the bathtub each year by the elderly" or some such.

I didn't even think about the fact that you can't open that door until
ALL the water has drained out of a particularly deep tub until my wife
pointed it out. Now the ads have stopped running. I think they hit
the wall with the whole idea.

On 2013-02-02 16:07:35 +0000, sf said:

> http://www.wibco.com/ Having to wait for it to drain before you can
> get out is exactly what we're talking about.

I got to the party late: The one on the left is just what has been advertised.

On 2013-02-02 16:17:44 +0000, S Viemeister said:

> Yes, they have drains - bu the tubs are very deep, with doors. You have
> to wait until the water drains away, before opening the door to get out.
> <http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.acessinc.com/images/clip_image002_002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.acessinc.com/bathtubs_with_door.htm&h=576&w=667&sz=31&tbnid=VqR sO73t8vx0jM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=104&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbathtub%2Bwith%2Bdoor%26tbm%3Disch%26 tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bathtub+with+door&usg=__ryIMG77SH ULO92rsbuWk8PigeIY=&docid=j35_O1-a4YlPVM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4zsNUbn5IuW80QGokoDQCA&ved=0 CGAQ9QEwBA&dur=4474>
>

May I recommend tinyurl.com?

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:52:57 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > >
> > She was talking about her own situation, not yours.
>
> No, she was asking about how I clean mine , when told she replied "you
> obviously don't have a tub as big as mine"
>
> Do read before inserting foot in mouth.
>

You're a halfwit who can't follow anything written in plain English.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-02-02 17:02:45 +0000, Cheri said:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That's why
>>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that is
>>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>>
>> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
>> until it drains just to be able to get out?
>
> Well, they do have some that drain in 80-90 seconds, or so they say.

The drain can be as large as a dinner plate, but if your pipes are
narrow that will control the speed of drainage.

On 2013-02-02 16:33:17 +0000, z z said:

> I think the last topic was language. Well-read people have large
> vocabularies. Those words naturally creep into your conversations. Many
> less-educated and/or not as well-read people consider it snobbish when
> people use big words/exotic words that they don't know. The reality is
> that it makes them feel defensive, but there was no intent to make them
> feel that way. When a comment is made to me, I always suggest they read
> romance paperbacks to increase their vocabulary :-)

That topic is SO yesterday!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:52:57 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > >
>> > She was talking about her own situation, not yours.
>>
>> No, she was asking about how I clean mine , when told she replied "you
>> obviously don't have a tub as big as mine"
>>
>> Do read before inserting foot in mouth.
>>
>
> You're a halfwit who can't follow anything written in plain English.
>
Janet may not often show evidence of having "wit" but she is certainly NOT a
half-wit.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:26:47 -0600, (z z) wrote:

>
> Half-bath is just a modern reinvention of the term powder room.
> Personally I always have thought the toilet room should be completely
> separate from the batheing room. The batheing room should be large like
> a locker room.

Aren't you up in Washington? I thought there are lots of older houses
or flats with Victorian baths (split) up there. I've seen newer homes
with bathrooms the size of a small apartment that have his and hers
water closets. My favorite style for bathrooms shared by siblings
with separate bedrooms is termed "Jack & Jill" and the type I like
best gives each bedroom its own toilet with the sink(s) &
bathtub/shower in a room connecting them. I'd put a sink with each
toilet and have the tub/shower in its own room between them.

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On 2013-02-02 18:09:32 +0000, graham said:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:52:57 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> She was talking about her own situation, not yours.
>>>
>>> No, she was asking about how I clean mine , when told she replied "you
>>> obviously don't have a tub as big as mine"
>>>
>>> Do read before inserting foot in mouth.
>>>
>>
>> You're a halfwit who can't follow anything written in plain English.
>>
> Janet may not often show evidence of having "wit" but she is certainly
> NOT a half-wit.

I agree that she seems intelligent enough to configure these curious
enclaves where "wrong" is a certain kind of endlessly nuanced "right".
Perhaps when younger she was the grand regional champion of the "Is
too! Is not! Is too! Is not! Is too! Is not!" contest.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/1/2013 4:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My bedroom is not square. One corner is like...cut off. And there in
>> that
>> space is a glass door leading to the back yard. Who puts an exterior
>> door
>> in their bedroom? And especially a glass one?
>
> Lots of people. I've lived in a couple of places with sliding glass doors
> leading from my bedroom to the back yard. They both had a metal pin
> inserted through the frame of the doors where they over-lapped. If
> someone wanted to break in that way they'd have had to smash the
> double-paned glass.
>
> My neighbor has a single glass door in her bedroom leading onto a patio.
> It's not uncommon.

Hmmm... Apparently not common here. I'd never seen such a thing before.

"Janet" > wrote in message
T...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> T...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> >> T...
>> >> >
>> >> > Someone has to ask.. why do you get in the bath fully clothed with
>> >> > shoes on?
>> >>
>> >> To clean it. How do you clean yours?
>> >
>> > When I'm not in it, of course.
>>
>> Well then you obviously don't have a tub that is as large as mine. There
>> really is no way to clean it very well *without* getting in it! I do
>> have a
>> long handled brush/sponge thingie but the span is just too far to reach
>> and
>> scrub at the same time. And forget the back edge. You can't reach that
>> at
>> all.
>
> You're assuming all bathrooms are as small/ badly laid out as yours,
> and have the bath trapped in a corner against the wall.

My bathroom is HUGE! It would have to be to accommodate such a tub. And
it's not in a corner. It takes up the entire width of the bathroom. But
there is no way to clean the back side of it without getting in it. And you
really can't do a good job to the front side either because you can't see
what you are doing.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> She was talking about her own situation, not yours. What can't you
> understand about that?
>

Indeed! But even when I had normal tubs that had those damnable sliding
doors, I found it necessary to get into the tub to clean them. It was
easier when I had just a shower curtain. But even at that, if I wanted to
clean the wall behind, that would involve getting in the tub. I just don't
see how you could do a good job if you didn't.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013020211320050024-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-02-02 18:09:32 +0000, graham said:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:52:57 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> She was talking about her own situation, not yours.
>>>>
>>>> No, she was asking about how I clean mine , when told she replied "you
>>>> obviously don't have a tub as big as mine"
>>>>
>>>> Do read before inserting foot in mouth.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're a halfwit who can't follow anything written in plain English.
>>>
>> Janet may not often show evidence of having "wit" but she is certainly
>> NOT a half-wit.
>
> I agree that she seems intelligent enough to configure these curious
> enclaves where "wrong" is a certain kind of endlessly nuanced "right".
> Perhaps when younger she was the grand regional champion of the "Is too!
> Is not! Is too! Is not! Is too! Is not!" contest.

Heh!

On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:10:45 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:35:18 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> I see far fewer American tourists compared with the numbers of Brits
>>and Europeans.
>>
>> Janet UK.
>>
>
>The price of air fairs from the US to Europe have been quite high in
>the past few years. If we go the year, it will be 30% higher than two
>years ago, double what we paid five years ago. Couple that with a
>crappy exchange rate and that is why our first vacation this year is
>in the US, still not sure about our fall vacation.

Besides the higher prices there is just too much inconvenience
associated with international travel these days. After experiencing
all the hassles two years ago I decided to let my passport lapse, I'll
never travel internationally again, not even to Canada where I used to
go often. There more to see in the US than anyone can in a hundred
life times.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> People have weird tastes. Back when we were looking for a house to
> buy, we saw one with carpet on the walls and doors. The only thing I
> could come up with was that they must have had cats.

We used to have a wacky car dealer here. He had ads on TV where he would
smash cars with a big mallet. Did all kinds of strange things. They
featured his home in the newspaper once. He had a fully carpeted room.
Floor, ceiling, walls, everything. Said he liked to go in there and just go
nuts.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:51:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I would really have to take a pic to show you what I mean but I am not a
>> pic
>> person. Yes I have a phone in my camera and another on my Ipad but no
>> clue
>> how to get those pics onto this computer. Had some sort of cord with my
>> old
>> phone to do that but this one didn't come with one.
>
> You can buy those cords at radio shack or the computer/camera section
> of any big box store. To get pictures off your phone without sending
> them to yourself first, you'll need a memory card and a usb card
> reader.

No clue what a memory card is. Have used a USB thumb drive thingie and
didn't like the experience. I think I'll pass.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:12:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> That's why
>> if I ever can design my own place, I will get a little soaking tub that
>> is
>> easy to get in and out of. Like those ones for seniors with the door on
>> them. Yeah. In my dreams!
>>
> I don't think those are a good idea. Can you imagine having to wait
> until it drains just to be able to get out?

I wasn't sure how they worked but when I have taken a bath I have always
waiting until it was fully drained before I got out. No real reason why.