On 2013-01-30 15:38:13 +0000, Julie Bove said:

>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess.
>
> No, it's quite true. We've made many cross country moves. And unless
> you're willing to venture very far from the Freeway, you're stuck with
> McDonalds, Subway and the like.

To be fair, "decent" food is frequently located somewhere else other
than right there on the interstate next to a Shell station.

I'm sure I don't need to give lessons on finding
interesting/curious/mom-and-pop/non-chain grub, right? First: Truck
stops frequently have something more like "real food".

Second, I tend to pull off and snoop when I'm getting towards a town's
center, not out in the periphery. Perhaps this is what you mean by
"venture very far", but it's usually only a few minutes. Once in the
old downtown area there will be a few mom-and-pop joints, and if there
is a school or industry nearby, these days there will be a few *faux
bistro-ish places.

These days, though I've only had the chance to use it a couple of
times, Yelp has really come to my aid in finding eats of value. We
found *three* "soul food" joints in downtown Riverside while on our way
to Palm Springs once. Hit them again on the way back.

*I assume faux bistros are not available in many poor, ethnically
deprived, or conservative„¢ areas.

On 2013-01-30 14:33:47 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2013-01-30 05:05:43 +0000, Sqwertz said:
>
>>> That's why we pack our own...
>>
>> OK, so I was being sarcastic. But if we're going to be driving
>> to/from a place we don't often visit, I'm going to be in the lookout
>> for a new, unique restaurant that I don't have near my home. I'm not
>> looking for stuff that I *brought* from home and can have any 'ol day.
>>
>> If I *did* happen to pass a Howard Johnson's (VERY unlikely) I
>> actually *would* stop in for some fried clam strips.
>
> Well sure.
>
> If I am on a "longish car haul" I certainly would be eating everything
> out of a basket.

s/b "certainly would NOT be..."

> I mention that we like to take a picnic basket and we like to picnic.
> But we also like to stop in to curious or interesting road-side places
> and have some good eats too, whether it's deep-fried objects (d.g. HJ
> clams) or mom-and-pop blue plates--should be be so lucky.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> If I *did* happen to pass a Howard Johnson's (VERY unlikely) I
> actually *would* stop in for some fried clam strips.

Did they have good ones? Around here, any place I've tried fried clams has
been a disappointment. More breading than clam and the clam is often
overcooked (very chewy).

They use the cheaper large clams and since they are tougher they cut them
into strips.

There's none better than small clams fried whole. You open the shell, scoop
the entire animal out in one piece, batter it and fry just until done. So
juicy and delicious.

I make these occasionally myself. I even have a "secret spot" to wade way
out in the water and harvest them myself. I'm kind of afraid to do that now
though since I've learned way too much about bull sharks. ;o

G.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
> >
> >> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
> >> people we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does
> >> anyone else do this?
> >
> > I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at
> > Howard Johnson's.
>
> I didn't know those were still in business!
>

There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but
they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a
special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed,
Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:14:46 AM UTC-6, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-01-30 14:46:44 +0000, Bryan said:
>
>
>
> >> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
>
> >> people we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does
>
> >> anyone else do this?
>
> >
>
> > I sure as Hell wouldn't include instant coffee. Don't you have any standards?
>
>
>
> She pointed out that she's "country folk". And I think instant coffe is
>
> a country standards. Apparently they can't stop the car for anything
>
> other than bathroom breaks. I assume with the instant coffee they also
>
> have a DC heating coil so they can warm the bottled water in a cup for
>
> the instant coffee.
>
>
>
> Uou'd think that country folk would have DC-operated coffee-makers,
>
> toasters, rotisserie-cookrs and all kinds of stuff for these
>
> cross-country pioneer treks.

There was this hick restaurant in a hick town (Stroud, Oklahoma) where they did not have butter, only margarine. The waitress thought margarine *was* butter. When I finally got through her thick skull, she said, "Oh, you mean the expensive stuff."

--Bryan

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:03:26 -0800, gtr > wrote:

>On 2013-01-30 15:19:20 +0000, Brooklyn1 said:
>
>> Farm1 wrote:
>>>
>>> When we go off on longish haul car trips we always take a basket.
>>
>> So you admit you're a basket case. LOL
>
>Your new email address is accounted for...

Actually I don't use that email address, I very rarely check it... in
fact today is the first time I checked it in almost four years because
an upgrade from Agent messed up my account and I had to repair my
settings... Agent tech support is WORTHLESS... and so I discovered my
Verizon email was closed for non use so I had to have Verizon
reactivate it... there were nearly 500 emails, only like six oldies
from names I recognized, I deleted all unread.

On 2013-01-30 18:12:44 +0000, Bryan said:

> There was this hick restaurant in a hick town (Stroud, Oklahoma) where
> they did not have butter, only margarine. The waitress thought
> margarine *was* butter. When I finally got through her thick skull,
> she said, "Oh, you mean the expensive stuff."

I guess you educated her. Now for the other 3.8 million between Texas
and Kansas...

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:03:26 -0800, gtr > wrote:

>On 2013-01-30 15:19:20 +0000, Brooklyn1 said:
>
>> Farm1 wrote:
>>>
>>> When we go off on longish haul car trips we always take a basket.
>>
>> So you admit you're a basket case. LOL
>
>Your new email address is accounted for...

Seems you're taking a trip with one of thse hellish hand baskets...

On 2013-01-30 17:39:51 +0000, Janet said:

> "Australia is as large as continental USA, but the population is
> only22.5 million, so the road network is not as well developed,
> especially away from the coastal areas. There are often very long
> distances between towns which have fuel, water and/or food."

Sounds like packing a basket is critical. And probably a few extra
cans of petrol...

On 2013-01-30 18:19:01 +0000, Janet said:

>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess.
>>>
>>> It's called Australia.
>>
>> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long drive.
>>
>>> Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>>
>> Perhaps you mean "different" area.
>
> Nope; just echoing the arrogance of "You're driving round the wrong
> area, I guess".

You are a bitter one. First I'm ignorant, now I'm arrogant. Some people
find bile wherever they put point their bilious eye.

I had forgotten why your ID was color-coded for "weazel watch".

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:19:01 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article <2013013009202314553-xxx@yyyzzz>, says...
> >
> > On 2013-01-30 15:27:58 +0000, Janet said:
> >
> > >>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a long
> > >>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
> > >>
> > >> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess.
> > >
> > > It's called Australia.
> >
> > I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long drive.
> >
> > > Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
> >
> > Perhaps you mean "different" area.
>
> Nope; just echoing the arrogance of "You're driving round the wrong
> area,I guess".
>
You wouldn't know a joke if it slapped you in the face and introduced
itself to you.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Shelley wrote:

> > When we go off on longish haul car trips we always take a basket.
>
> So you admit you're a basket case. LOL

At least she can sell the carcasses she slaughters. All you can do with your
dead squirrels is make a redneck potpie.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009325663435-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 15:38:13 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I
>>> guess.
>>
>> No, it's quite true. We've made many cross country moves. And unless
>> you're willing to venture very far from the Freeway, you're stuck with
>> McDonalds, Subway and the like.
>
> To be fair, "decent" food is frequently located somewhere else other than
> right there on the interstate next to a Shell station.
>
That's true. But if you are in a hurry to get somewhere, you don't want to
veer far from your path. And in the days before we had the GPS it could be
hard to get back to the freeway if ou did stray

> I'm sure I don't need to give lessons on finding
> interesting/curious/mom-and-pop/non-chain grub, right? First: Truck stops
> frequently have something more like "real food".

True but I haven't seen many of those.
>
> Second, I tend to pull off and snoop when I'm getting towards a town's
> center, not out in the periphery. Perhaps this is what you mean by
> "venture very far", but it's usually only a few minutes. Once in the old
> downtown area there will be a few mom-and-pop joints, and if there is a
> school or industry nearby, these days there will be a few *faux bistro-ish
> places.

I would likely do that too but husband will not. He will go maybe a block
or two from the freeway.
>
> These days, though I've only had the chance to use it a couple of times,
> Yelp has really come to my aid in finding eats of value. We found *three*
> "soul food" joints in downtown Riverside while on our way to Palm Springs
> once. Hit them again on the way back.
>
> *I assume faux bistros are not available in many poor, ethnically
> deprived, or conservativeT areas.

We have soul food here too but I've read that it isn't good.

wrote:
> On Jan 29, 11:30 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Not a basket but I do always take food. I have an insulated bag from
>> Built NY that always stays in my van. During the colder months I
>> keep some bottles of diet soda in there. Maybe some water. But
>> during colder months
>> I always keep a case of water in the trunk. If I fear freezing
>> weather, I will usually take the beverages out though. In the bag, I
>> always keep some craisins, Cornnuts and peanut butter filled
>> pretzels.
>>
>> When my daughter is coming with me and we might be out for a while,
>> I pack cheese and apples for her. I always wind up packing a lot
>> extra because if we go to see my parents, they will usually want
>> some as well. And if my husband is along, he will want them.
>>
>> If we do not have a planned restaurant stop and if we think meal
>> time will roll around, then I will usually pack something. Usually
>> sandwiches, baby carrots and apples.
>>
>> Now if we are going off somewhere with my husband driving and we
>> don't really know where all he will be taking us, I might then take
>> shelf stable stuff like tortilla chips, a bag of tortillas and a can
>> or two of refried or kidney beans. Maybe even a can of green beans.
>> He has no food issues (aside from the gout that he refuses to think
>> is food related) and can grab something to eat anywhere. But
>> daughter and I are on special diets and restaurant food is not
>> always suitable for us. I also always keep one of her old lunch
>> boxes in the back of the van. In it are a couple of chip clips,
>> plastic bags and a can opener. I think there may even be a little
>> sharp knife in there. Can't remember because we haven't had to use
>> the bag for a long time.
>>
>> Before my dad's health declined, I would often pack a picnic lunch
>> for all of us if we were going several hours away to the zoo or some
>> such place. I would usually buy assorted things from the salad and
>> cold food bars at Central Market. Like potato salad, beet salad,
>> falafel, hummus, cooked chicken breasts and maybe a bag of chips,
>> some cheese and fruit. Also drinks. I would keep this in a large
>> insulated bag (I have serveral of these) or if it was a hot day, a
>> larger, hard sided cooler until we got there. Then I would take the
>> food to the picnic table in plastic shopping bags that could be
>> thrown away after we ate. That way we wouldn't have to trek way back
>> to the van to put something back.
>>
>> I like to plan these sorts of things in advance and always try to.
>> In my mind there is no reason to eat crap food just because you are
>> out. I know a lot of people like to use this as an excuse for eating
>> the crap food. But I don't buy that. Yes, once in a while something
>> will crop up where you'll have to eat somewhere that you didn't plan
>> to or just go hungry. But if it is a planned outting, then I either
>> research the restaurants in advance and find something suitable or I
>> bring food.
>>
>> But really I can usually find suitable food in a grocery store if
>> need be. We once took a road trip down the coast in CA. I had wanted
>> to eat lunch at this little diner that we all liked. They had the
>> *best* salads in that place. I don't know how they did it but they
>> shaved the red onions paper thin. Onions can sometimes be
>> overwhelming but I think Scott Conant would even like these! My
>> daughter even loved their salads and in those days she wasn't much
>> of a salad eater unless the greens were baby Swiss chard. She loved
>> that stuff.
>>
>> But for some reason, my husband wouldn't stop there. I think the
>> timing was off for him or something. And he continued to drive
>> further and further to places we'd never been before. We could only
>> find fast food places and I refuse to eat at those type of places,
>> with a few exceptions. Finally he insisted that we try this really
>> foo foo little place. Horribly expensive. He seems to be one of
>> those people who thinks expensive is better. But they didn't have
>> any sort of food on the menu that a kid would eat. Nor did they have
>> anything that I would like to eat. I made the mistake of ordering a
>> fried olive platter. I surmised that since daughter and I liked
>> olives, we might like this. We did not and neither did my husband. I
>> just think there are some things that shouldn't be fried. And
>> thankfully I've never seen that on a menu since. This place did have
>> salads on the menu but I was unwilling to pay those prices. Husband
>> did eat something. Can't remember what. But his meal and our fried
>> olives plus three drinks cost me what it would normally cost for a
>> dinner for the three of us in one of the restaurants we normally
>> frequent. And this was lunch!
>>
>> We wound up finding a little mom and pop type place. I had packed
>> baby carrots and in this place I bought some apples and cheese and
>> something else. Can't remember what now. Pretzels or bread or
>> something. Daughter
>> and I wound up eating our lunch on the beach. It was good food and
>> it was far cheaper than that restaurant.
>>
>> I don't mind going out to eat if I know I am going to get food food
>> there. I don't even mind paying a high price for something that is
>> expeptional such as something you don't commonly see elsewhere or
>> that is in some way special. Like cassoulet because it takes a long
>> time to cook. But I don't like getting crappy food in a restaurant,
>> especially it is overpriced crappy food!
>>
>>
> How long did it take you write this??

I didn't time it.

On 2013-01-30 21:44:09 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009325663435-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 15:38:13 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>
>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess.
>>>
>>> No, it's quite true. We've made many cross country moves. And unless
>>> you're willing to venture very far from the Freeway, you're stuck with
>>> McDonalds, Subway and the like.
>>
>> To be fair, "decent" food is frequently located somewhere else other
>> than right there on the interstate next to a Shell station.
>>
> That's true. But if you are in a hurry to get somewhere, you don't
> want to veer far from your path. And in the days before we had the GPS
> it could be hard to get back to the freeway if ou did stray

And if you're not hungry there's no point in stopping, and might get a
flat if you run over a nail, and they might close the road after you go
in allowing no way out, and you might choke on a peanut, and so on and
so forth. Pack a very FULL basket and forget about it!

Clearly in MY world I would be in less of a hurry to get a McDonald's
burger than finding a feasible alternative. See, I can always swap an
additional 10 minutes in the vast unknown, to avoid the unpleasance,
lack of novelty and indigestion. Clearly Your Mileage Varies.

>> I'm sure I don't need to give lessons on finding
>> interesting/curious/mom-and-pop/non-chain grub, right? First: Truck
>> stops frequently have something more like "real food".
>
> True but I haven't seen many of those.

Just one is all you need at any given time. You seem to think I'm
trying to solve a specific problem of yours, as you're eager to point
out the *potential* failings of everything based on hypothetical
reasons-to-fail. Sure! There's those. But absent that, they're
solutions!

>> Second, I tend to pull off and snoop when I'm getting towards a town's
>> center, not out in the periphery. Perhaps this is what you mean by
>> "venture very far", but it's usually only a few minutes. Once in the
>> old downtown area there will be a few mom-and-pop joints, and if there
>> is a school or industry nearby, these days there will be a few *faux
>> bistro-ish places.
>
> I would likely do that too but husband will not. He will go maybe a
> block or two from the freeway.

Seems like every road leads to the total, complete and exception-free
failure of all solutions to all problems you have or may ever have.
But back to me and my needs...

>> These days, though I've only had the chance to use it a couple of
>> times, Yelp has really come to my aid in finding eats of value. We
>> found *three* "soul food" joints in downtown Riverside while on our way
>> to Palm Springs once. Hit them again on the way back.
>>
>> *I assume faux bistros are not available in many poor, ethnically
>> deprived, or conservativeT areas.
>
> We have soul food here too but I've read that it isn't good.

The *good* soul food is right over there--where you can't go because
your husband won't let you and you'll might get lost and you're in a
hurry.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013014150021001-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 21:44:09 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2013013009325663435-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>> On 2013-01-30 15:38:13 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>>
>>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area,
>>>>> I guess.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's quite true. We've made many cross country moves. And unless
>>>> you're willing to venture very far from the Freeway, you're stuck with
>>>> McDonalds, Subway and the like.
>>>
>>> To be fair, "decent" food is frequently located somewhere else other
>>> than right there on the interstate next to a Shell station.
>>>
>> That's true. But if you are in a hurry to get somewhere, you don't want
>> to veer far from your path. And in the days before we had the GPS it
>> could be hard to get back to the freeway if ou did stray
>
> And if you're not hungry there's no point in stopping, and might get a
> flat if you run over a nail, and they might close the road after you go in
> allowing no way out, and you might choke on a peanut, and so on and so
> forth. Pack a very FULL basket and forget about it!
>
> Clearly in MY world I would be in less of a hurry to get a McDonald's
> burger than finding a feasible alternative. See, I can always swap an
> additional 10 minutes in the vast unknown, to avoid the unpleasance, lack
> of novelty and indigestion. Clearly Your Mileage Varies.
>
>>> I'm sure I don't need to give lessons on finding
>>> interesting/curious/mom-and-pop/non-chain grub, right? First: Truck
>>> stops frequently have something more like "real food".
>>
>> True but I haven't seen many of those.
>
> Just one is all you need at any given time. You seem to think I'm trying
> to solve a specific problem of yours, as you're eager to point out the
> *potential* failings of everything based on hypothetical reasons-to-fail.
> Sure! There's those. But absent that, they're solutions!
>
>>> Second, I tend to pull off and snoop when I'm getting towards a town's
>>> center, not out in the periphery. Perhaps this is what you mean by
>>> "venture very far", but it's usually only a few minutes. Once in the old
>>> downtown area there will be a few mom-and-pop joints, and if there is a
>>> school or industry nearby, these days there will be a few *faux
>>> bistro-ish places.
>>
>> I would likely do that too but husband will not. He will go maybe a
>> block or two from the freeway.
>
> Seems like every road leads to the total, complete and exception-free
> failure of all solutions to all problems you have or may ever have. But
> back to me and my needs...
>
>>> These days, though I've only had the chance to use it a couple of times,
>>> Yelp has really come to my aid in finding eats of value. We found
>>> *three* "soul food" joints in downtown Riverside while on our way to
>>> Palm Springs once. Hit them again on the way back.
>>>
>>> *I assume faux bistros are not available in many poor, ethnically
>>> deprived, or conservativeT areas.
>>
>> We have soul food here too but I've read that it isn't good.
>
> The *good* soul food is right over there--where you can't go because your
> husband won't let you and you'll might get lost and you're in a hurry.

I've never eaten soul food and probably wouldn't. Doesn't sound appealing.
Husband lived in Louisiana so has eaten that stuff and likes it. But keep
in mind that we are far from where soul food is popular. So I suspect what
we have here isn't made properly

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> When we go off on longish haul car trips, we always take a basket.
>> Tehrmos,
>> cups, spoons, tea bags, instant coffee, sugar, biscuits (aka 'cookies'
>> elsewhere in the English speaking world), sandwiches, cold water and
>> milk.
>> And sometimes treats like lollies (aka 'sweets' or 'candy') or chips (aka
>> 'crisps').
>>
>> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
>> people
>> we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does anyone else
>> do
>> this?
>>
> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
> all that time in a car with no reward.

There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
repaired.

On 2013-01-30 23:14:23 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> I've never eaten soul food and probably wouldn't. Doesn't sound
> appealing. Husband lived in Louisiana so has eaten that stuff and likes
> it. But keep in mind that we are far from where soul food is popular.
> So I suspect what we have here isn't made properly

You're missing ALL my points! Soul food: Like it/hate it--I don't care.
I'm just saying I found something that was "a surprise". I found it by
looking. Looking involved going into the town a little bit.

I know you can't or won't do these things so it doesn't really make any
difference that the surpise in my example wouldn't have been
interesting to you. Imagine a surprise, whatever that may be--anything
you can imagine--it may exist! And it may be right over there,
assuming you're not in a hurry, in control of your route, not
frightened of losing your way and any other reasons you can imagine.

In sum my sole point: There are other options. Specifically there are
other options when you think there are NOT other options based on the
limitations you have put on finding other options. That's all.

On 2013-01-30 22:39:29 +0000, Sqwertz said:

> Friday's and your birthday were AYCE clam strip nights. Here's the
> history the HoJo's Clam Strips, a short and sweet read. HoJo's put
> clam strips on the map.

Coco's (I don't know there geo-range) use to do clam night.

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> Farm1 wrote about bringing a basket of provisions on a road trip:
>
>> It sure beats eating the kind or stuff available along the road
>
> I think that depends on exactly where you are. Would you do the same thing
> if you were driving through the countryside of France, Spain, or Italy?

No. But those places aren't long haul trip territory.

Here
> in Northern California, there is some *great* food to be had along the
> road if you're within about 75 miles of the coast (which includes "wine
> country"). There's still great food further inland, but you have to know
> where to find it, and it's not usually anywhere close to the major
> highways.

On a long haul trip when we needed to cover 1500km in 24 hours there was no
way we'd be diverting to find some well reviewed eatery.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

>"sf" > wrote in message
>> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>> all that time in a car with no reward.
>
>There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
>that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
>when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>repaired.

"British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:33:39 PM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote:
>> When we go off on longish haul car trips, we always take a basket.
>> Tehrmos,
>>
>> cups, spoons, tea bags, instant coffee, sugar, biscuits (aka 'cookies'
>>
>> elsewhere in the English speaking world), sandwiches, cold water and
>> milk.
>>
>> And sometimes treats like lollies (aka 'sweets' or 'candy') or chips (aka
>>
>> 'crisps').
>>
>>
>>
>> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
>> people
>>
>> we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does anyone else
>> do
>>
>> this?
>
> I sure as Hell wouldn't include instant coffee. Don't you have any
> standards?

Of course I have standards. That is precisely why I pack a basket.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013007144663991-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 14:46:44 +0000, Bryan said:
>
>>> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other coutnry
>>> people we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does
>>> anyone else do this?
>>
>> I sure as Hell wouldn't include instant coffee. Don't you have any
>> standards?
>
> She pointed out that she's "country folk". And I think instant coffe is a
> country standards. Apparently they can't stop the car for anything other
> than bathroom breaks. I assume with the instant coffee they also have a DC
> heating coil so they can warm the bottled water in a cup for the instant
> coffee.

'Thermos' was mentioned as being a part of the basket. I'm sure that
thermos flasks would be available in the US.

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message

> My main motivation for taking food on trips is to avoid lousy, unhealthful
> food.

Yep, that is my motivation as well.

On 1/30/2013 1:40 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:03:26 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2013-01-30 15:19:20 +0000, Brooklyn1 said:
>>
>>> Farm1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When we go off on longish haul car trips we always take a basket.
>>>
>>> So you admit you're a basket case. LOL
>>
>> Your new email address is accounted for...
>
> Seems you're taking a trip with one of thse hellish hand baskets...
>
Reminds me of a T-shirt I once saw... "Where are we going and why am I
in this hand basket?"

Jill

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009202314553-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 15:27:58 +0000, Janet said:
>
>>>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a long
>>>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
>>>
>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I
>>> guess.
>>
>> It's called Australia.
>
> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long drive.

You may be able to see that if you're capable of thinking beyond the square.

>> Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>
> Perhaps you mean "different" area. My area(s) make finding decent food
> pretty easy.

Just as I am driving in a 'different' area and not the 'wrong' area.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
> repaired.
>
Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could see
making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:39:09 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
> >"sf" > wrote in message
> >> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
> >> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
> >> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
> >> all that time in a car with no reward.
> >
> >There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
> >British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to take
> >that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip again
> >when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
> >repaired.
>
> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists

Hubby's first car was a Triumph GT6. He really loved that thing. Our
friend has his equally old Austin Healey (which is in pristine
condition, because he's that kind of guy) up on blocks and never
drives it anymore. I think it's a shrine to his long lost youth.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Janet" > wrote in message
> In article >, ost
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:27:58 -0000, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > In article <2013013006313411704-xxx@yyyzzz>, says...
>> >>
>> >> On 2013-01-30 04:10:25 +0000, Farm1 said:
>> >>
>> >>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> On 1/29/2013 8:35 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other
>> >>>>>> coutnry people
>> >>>>>> we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does
>> >>>>>> anyone else do
>> >>>>>> this?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> Howard Johnson's.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> That's why we pack our own...
>> >>>
>> >>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a
>> >>> long
>> >>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
>> >>
>> >> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area,
>> >> I guess.
>> >
>> > It's called Australia. Your experience is probably in the wrong
>> > area.
>>
>> So basically she's saying that Australia sucks for food everywhere you
>> go.
>
> Not at all, I've eaten great food in Darwin, Sydney, Cairns, Brisbane.
> But very little of Australia, is urban.
>
> http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g255055-
> c128307/Australia:Tips.For.Driving.In.Australia.html
>
> "Australia is as large as continental USA, but the population is
> only22.5 million, so the road network is not as well developed,
> especially away from the coastal areas. There are often very long
> distances between towns which have fuel, water and/or food."

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!

Reading most of the responses has been simply amazing. Geography and
passport ownership........... You know that stereotype..............

Mentions of malls, subways, clam eateries, interstates, truck stops with
good food and bistros really says it all.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article <2013013009202314553-xxx@yyyzzz>, says...
>>
>> On 2013-01-30 15:27:58 +0000, Janet said:
>>
>> >>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a
>> >>> long
>> >>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
>> >>
>> >> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area,
>> >> I guess.
>> >
>> > It's called Australia.
>>
>> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long
>> drive.
>>
>> > Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>>
>> Perhaps you mean "different" area.
>
> Nope; just echoing the arrogance of "You're driving round the wrong
> area,I guess".

LOL, Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to
'different' once it was applied to him/her.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013010415128000-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 17:39:51 +0000, Janet said:
>
>> "Australia is as large as continental USA, but the population is
>> only22.5 million, so the road network is not as well developed,
>> especially away from the coastal areas. There are often very long
>> distances between towns which have fuel, water and/or food."
>
> Sounds like packing a basket is critical.

The penny drops!

And probably a few extra
> cans of petrol...

Not on this trip. We weren't in the outback.

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:06:56 +1100, "Farm1" >
wrote:

> LOL, Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to
> 'different' once it was applied to him/her.

He was gently needling you, Farm1. I'm pretty sure wasn't meant to be
offensive. I think it was said in the same spirit as when Brits and
Americans tell each other they drive on the wrong side of the road.
It's a joke.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-01-30 23:50:07 +0000, Farm1 said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013009202314553-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-30 15:27:58 +0000, Janet said:
>>
>>>>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a long
>>>>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess.
>>>
>>> It's called Australia.
>>
>> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long drive.
>
> You may be able to see that if you're capable of thinking beyond the square.

I can see why by being told it's Australia. I don't know about the
square business.

>>> Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>>
>> Perhaps you mean "different" area. My area(s) make finding decent food
>> pretty easy.
>
> Just as I am driving in a 'different' area and not the 'wrong' area.

No, not different, WRONG. You're in the wrong area to find any good
grub, and Janet has explained why: "It's called Australia."

On 2013-01-31 00:02:42 +0000, Farm1 said:

> Shhhhhhhhhhhh!
>
> Reading most of the responses has been simply amazing. Geography and
> passport ownership........... You know that stereotype..............

Oh I get it: You're living in Australia is some kind of secret. Well
the cat is out of the bag now!

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013010534964802-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-30 18:19:01 +0000, Janet said:
>
>>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area,
>>>>> I guess.
>>>>
>>>> It's called Australia.
>>>
>>> I can see why that might present problems in finding food on a long
>>> drive.
>>>
>>>> Your experience is probably in the wrong area.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you mean "different" area.
>>
>> Nope; just echoing the arrogance of "You're driving round the wrong area,
>> I guess".
>
> You are a bitter one. First I'm ignorant, now I'm arrogant. Some people
> find bile wherever they put point their bilious eye.

So your multiple comments about my being 'country folk' and drinking instant
coffee, and driving in the 'wrong area' and how you wouldn't eat out of a
basket etc, etc were all meant to be taken in jest and weren't really as
rude or xenophobic as you made them sound?

Do you intend to apologise to me for your rudeness or are you just going to
do the usual thing here and insist that you are innocent and someone said
something nasty to you and that only you should be offended?

On 2013-01-31 00:06:56 +0000, Farm1 said:

> Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to
> 'different' once it was applied to him/her.

You seem to have some kind of logic-block: I said "No decent food on a
road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, I guess."

If you were driving around the RIGHT are for finding decent food, why
couldn't you find it?

[ Please torque to create imaginary insult as suits your needs. ]

On 2013-01-30 23:43:00 +0000, Farm1 said:

>> She pointed out that she's "country folk". And I think instant coffe is
>> a country standards. Apparently they can't stop the car for anything
>> other than bathroom breaks. I assume with the instant coffee they also
>> have a DC heating coil so they can warm the bottled water in a cup for
>> the instant coffee.
>
> 'Thermos' was mentioned as being a part of the basket. I'm sure that
> thermos flasks would be available in the US.

I don't make instant coffee in the car on road trips so perhaps you can
explain: You bring hot water in the thermos and then pour it into a cup
to make instant coffee?

Please tell me you don't take the thermos to avoid bathroom breaks!!!

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:26:28 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:38:15 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> If I *did* happen to pass a Howard Johnson's (VERY unlikely) I
>
> >> actually *would* stop in for some fried clam strips.
>
> >
>
> > Did they have good ones? Around here, any place I've tried fried clams has
>
> > been a disappointment. More breading than clam and the clam is often
>
> > overcooked (very chewy).
>
>
>
> That's them. Never seen them any other way.
>
>
>
> Mrs. Paul's (from the freezer) used to make them, but I haven't seen
>
> them for quite a while.
>
>
>
> http://www.mrspauls.com/fried-clams
>
Mrs. Paul's brings back some memories from the early 1980s. I gave up meat other than fish for six months, and I had a Fry Daddy that I used to cook those fish fillets every day. I was in my early 20s, and somehow got the notion that meat caused hyper-sexual and aggressive ideations. That time of my life sucked, except for the fish. Crappy Mrs. Paul's battered fish, fried in soybean oil and dipped in reconstituted lemon juice was the best part of my life.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On 2013-01-31 00:30:38 +0000, Farm1 said:

>> You are a bitter one. First I'm ignorant, now I'm arrogant. Some people
>> find bile wherever they put point their bilious eye.
>
> So your multiple comments about my being 'country folk' and drinking
> instant coffee, and driving in the 'wrong area' and how you wouldn't
> eat out of a basket etc, etc were all meant to be taken in jest and
> weren't really as rude or xenophobic as you made them sound?

I just say them; you're the one that "makes them sound"; reinterprets
them to suit your need for indignation.

You call youself Farm1 and made the distinction upstream about how city
people can't understand country people, then get huffy that I called
you "country folk"?

> Do you intend to apologise to me for your rudeness....

Why bother, you'll invent more.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
>>> I'm a city person, so the answer is no. I'm still wondering what the
>>> heck motivated you to do 1500km in 48 hours? You just had time to
>>> catch some sleep and turn around for the return trip. I hate spending
>>> all that time in a car with no reward.
>>
>>There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an ancient
>>British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago to
>>take
>>that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same trip
>>again
>>when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting to be
>>repaired.
>
> "British sports car". You and your hubby must be masochists

Well it does help! We've got 5 ancient British sports cars (and we won't
mention the Series 1 and 2 Land Rover collection)!

The part we picked up was for an 80+ year old car that we both really enjoy
using. Himself bought it in Brisbane and over 2 and a half days drove it
home to sth eastern NSW and it didn't miss a beat. Half of that drive was
in pouring rain. She's a wonderful old girl and can really lift her skirts
an go when she's asked to do so.