"notbob" > wrote in message
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> On 2013-02-01, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> It's great that she eats a big cooked breakfast, but that would
>> fill a grown and active man; it probably provides a whole day's calorie
>> needs for an old lady so not surprising she doesn't feel hungry later;
>> or want to three meals a day. She may be more easily tempted if for the
>> rest of the day you just offer a series of very small snacks on a little
>> sideplate. Cold nibbles like a fruit yoghurt or fruit slices means
>> there's no pressure to eat it up right away; let her take her time and
>> pick away while watching TV etc.
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Janet. Yes, the junkfood is jes one part of
> it. I'm pretty much trying everything, now. While she still eats a
> big breakfast, she's becoming less interested in those, too. I give
> her a glass of fresh squeezed OJ every day, which helps with her
> regularity. She also will eat a bowl of fresh fruit at night, usually
> sliced apples, oranges, melon, and raisins. I do season her food
> pretty heavily (S&P), but she doesn't like hot spices like I do, so hot
> sauce and Indian foods are out. I always keep a big bowl of popcorn
> and a pastry on the counter. I try different foods, but too often she
> ignores 'em or feeds the meat to her dog. That's what I meant by not
> wasting money on pricey organic/natural foods for her. The bottom
> line is, she still losing weight. I can see it, as does the care
> person who comes once a week.
>
> I appears this lack of appetite is not uncommon in dementia patients.
> A close friend told me his father died when he forgot how to swallow
> and they could no longer even hand feed him. My mom is getting like
> that. She wants food, than when it's prepared, jes forgets about
> eating it.

My dad is getting like that. Seems not much tastes good to him. He did
want
Chinese food the other day and although he did get a huge portion, he left a
lot of it. Some years ago he would have eaten it all. He is large though
so weight loss is not a problem.

On 2/1/2013 11:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2013-02-01, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>> It's great that she eats a big cooked breakfast, but that would
>>> fill a grown and active man; it probably provides a whole day's calorie
>>> needs for an old lady so not surprising she doesn't feel hungry later;
>>> or want to three meals a day. She may be more easily tempted if for the
>>> rest of the day you just offer a series of very small snacks on a little
>>> sideplate. Cold nibbles like a fruit yoghurt or fruit slices means
>>> there's no pressure to eat it up right away; let her take her time and
>>> pick away while watching TV etc.
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback, Janet. Yes, the junkfood is jes one part of
>> it. I'm pretty much trying everything, now. While she still eats a
>> big breakfast, she's becoming less interested in those, too. I give
>> her a glass of fresh squeezed OJ every day, which helps with her
>> regularity. She also will eat a bowl of fresh fruit at night, usually
>> sliced apples, oranges, melon, and raisins. I do season her food
>> pretty heavily (S&P), but she doesn't like hot spices like I do, so hot
>> sauce and Indian foods are out. I always keep a big bowl of popcorn
>> and a pastry on the counter. I try different foods, but too often she
>> ignores 'em or feeds the meat to her dog. That's what I meant by not
>> wasting money on pricey organic/natural foods for her. The bottom
>> line is, she still losing weight. I can see it, as does the care
>> person who comes once a week.
>>
>> I appears this lack of appetite is not uncommon in dementia patients.
>> A close friend told me his father died when he forgot how to swallow
>> and they could no longer even hand feed him. My mom is getting like
>> that. She wants food, than when it's prepared, jes forgets about
>> eating it.
>
> My dad is getting like that. Seems not much tastes good to him. He did
> want
> Chinese food the other day and although he did get a huge portion, he left a
> lot of it. Some years ago he would have eaten it all. He is large though
> so weight loss is not a problem.
>
>
His "eyes were bigger than his stomach". Not an uncommon problem in
elderly people. At least he ate some of it.

Jill

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am eating less and less meat. Does anyone here cook vegetarian food and
> if so, will you share recipes?

To start with, maybe better to keep eating your meat but shift into a side
dish rather than the main event. Don't give up beloved meat but start eating
less of it.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am eating less and less meat. Does anyone here cook vegetarian food
>> and
>> if so, will you share recipes?
>
> To start with, maybe better to keep eating your meat but shift into a side
> dish rather than the main event. Don't give up beloved meat but start
> eating
> less of it.

Yes. That what I am doing just now, but I do hope to do more of the veg and
just a wee bit less on the meats. I am also thinking of using more fish,
meat and eggs.

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"Susan" > wrote in message
...

> I've posted this one before, it's to die for, the smell as it bakes is
> intoxicating thanks to all the herbs: I just sub rutabaga or celery
> root, or even white turnip, but it's more bitter with the turnip:
> http://www.epicurious.com/tools/sear...i n&x=32&y=15
>
> Good luck!

Thanks We don't like sweet potato much, could you share the rutabaga
recipe?

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:53:32 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

> Susan, do you do "net carb" math, i.e., you count net carbs and not
> actual total carbs? I don't do low carb so I'm just curious to hear
> from someone who's done it for a while. Note that I'm also not
> interested as I'm lean and healthy, but I am curious because I'm
> regularly asked how I stay this way. The only thing I know about net
> carbs is that generally fiber counts against the carb count, e.g.,
> something with some fiber and some carbs could come out to a net of
> zero.

I think a lot of us would do a lot better if we cut back on carb
consumption... not necessarily going low carb, just not eating as much
of it as we do.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Susan wrote:

> On 2/1/2013 4:53 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> If you're going truly low carb, to read up on ketosis and also cyclic
>> ketogenic diets. You can search on "ketosis CKD" and also use TKD -
>> both are low-carb diets.
>
> No she doesn't!! She's done low carb with great success in the past.
>
> She's not a freaking bodybuilder.
>
> She'd do better to read any of the well written, scientifically
> accurate Protein Power books by the Eades, or Gary Taubes excellent
> books on the science of diet.
>
> Or not, because she's done fine in the past.

Whoa, relax. All I did was ask a few honest questions. I have no horse
in this race and could care less, just trying to be helpful.

To be specific, there are low carb diets that require your body to be in
a state of ketosis, and there are low carb diets that, through the math
of "net" carbs, do not. I was trying to find out which kind you were
following - just curious, that's all.

Eating a diet low in starches is what I'd call "lower" and not "low"
carb, based on what I know on the subject. True low carb is ketosis and
all that, as you say, "bodybuilder" stuff. My own diet has decidely
less starchy food than it did in the past, but I don't avoid it - I
still eat pasta, bread, etc., just less than I used to.

Again, if this raises your blood pressure, you've misinterpreted my
intentions - I was just, well, never mind. I think I'll drop out of
this one right now. Best of luck to you.

-S-

Susan wrote:


>> I have, in the past, tried eating fewer carbs than I currently do,
>> and although I did not test myself, my own "lacking in practical ..."
>> experience was that I felt absolutely terrible. I assumed I was
>> getting near ketosis-inducing levels of low carb and decided that
>> near was already too close for me, so it was back to buttermilk
>> biscuits, thank you very much.
>
> I felt like crap for the first three weeks of very low carb, years
> ago, but going to 100 grams per day won't make you feel really bad
> unless you *really* have a metabolic issue like high blood sugar or
> insulin resistance. Most folks just feel better with that much
> carbohydrate.

This is part of the point I was trying to make - you don't simply go low
carb - you feel like crap along the way.

I disagree that 100 grams per day won't make you feel really bad. It
made me feel really bad and I'm about as far from diabetic as one can
be, according to my doctor. I'm very comfortable fasting all day and
generally practice an approach called the Warrior Diet - I eat very
little during the day and take in most of my calories at dinner time.

> Read Michael Eades Protein Power blog and it's archives online, or
> Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories." It's a review of the
> scientific research, not a diet book/plan.

I'm not interested enough to read a boot on the subject unless someone
hands it to me for free. I'm very happy with how I eat.

One final question to you, and to which I will not respond because we
clearly aren't able to have a good dialogue so I'll bow out at this
point. Do you follow the low-carb approach you do as a reaction or
response to health issues and, if so, what health issues, e.g., obesity
and/or diabetes, or do you view low-carb eating as a preventative to
avoid those and possibly other health issues?

And, of course, you're welcomed not to answer, but that's the last of my
questions for you.

Thanks.

-S-

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