Wow small world. Whiskeyta Falls was where I had the loose meat stuff too. I thought it was Maid-Rite but bound to have been Nu-Way..kiick kick. I take all that back..never had a Maid-Rite..lol. To bring comfort they had to be mighty similar.

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*made for* TV, though not the best thing ever shown on TV. The Little
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Beverly Hillbillies is one of my all time favorites too. I could watch that show and get hysterical from laughing so much. Course all us red blooded young merkins was madly in love with Ellie Mae..wow. They quit being funny about the time they started making it in color. Would rank it right up with Green Acres and All in the Family. Archie reminded me of my Daddy so much it was sorta odd..lol.

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>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>
>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>
>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know what a
>> 'sloppy joe' is
>
> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there, there
> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce. It
> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
> it... Well, then you'll know!

Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
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>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>
>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know what
>>> a
>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>
>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there, there
>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce. It
>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>
> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?

Yes. Unless you want to wear it!

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>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>
>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>> what a
>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>
>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there, there
>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce. It
>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>
> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?

I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.

Jill

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>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>
>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know what
>>>> a
>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>
>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>> there
>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>> It
>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>
>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
> Yes. Unless you want to wear it!

rofl Good thinking Batwoman
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>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>
>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>>> what a
>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>
>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>> there
>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>> It
>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>
>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
> served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
> plate a bit when you're taking a bite.

Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
broken up.
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On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:40:56 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:08:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > For that matter, wouldn't a Sloppy Joe be loose meat too?
>
> > >
>
> > Sloppy Joes are loose meat with a tomato product in it which someone
>
> > upthread makes it *not* a loose meat sandwich. I'm not writing these
>
> > rules, just repeating them.
>
>
>
> One pound of ground beast mixed with a can of "Manwich"
>
> There's your best "sloppy joe" sandwiches. Eat with salty chips.
>
A few years ago, I bought a few cans of Manwich because they were really cheap. I made one can, and while I did eat it, I donated all the rest of the cans to the food pantry.

I mean, it's like syrupy sweet, and nasty with vinegar.
http://blog.fooducate.com/2009/10/28...ide-the-label/
The second ingredient is HFCS, but the 4th is "corn syrup." In theory, those two combined could constitute a higher percentage of the contents that the tomato puree. It's a really crappy product, but that's to be expected from ConAgra. The only thing I know of that they put out that's good is Rosarita refried beans, and they are just the least marginal of all the canned refried beans.
>
> G.

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>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>
>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>>> what a
>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>
>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>> there
>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>> It
>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>
>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
> served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
> plate a bit when you're taking a bite.

Well, I would never pick one up! We've always eaten them with a knife and
fork.

Bryan wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:40:56 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:08:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> For that matter, wouldn't a Sloppy Joe be loose meat too?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>> Sloppy Joes are loose meat with a tomato product in it which someone
>>
>>> upthread makes it *not* a loose meat sandwich. I'm not writing
>>> these
>>
>>> rules, just repeating them.
>>
>>
>>
>> One pound of ground beast mixed with a can of "Manwich"
>>
>> There's your best "sloppy joe" sandwiches. Eat with salty chips.
>>
> A few years ago, I bought a few cans of Manwich because they were
> really cheap. I made one can, and while I did eat it, I donated all
> the rest of the cans to the food pantry.
>
> I mean, it's like syrupy sweet, and nasty with vinegar.
> http://blog.fooducate.com/2009/10/28...ide-the-label/
> The second ingredient is HFCS, but the 4th is "corn syrup." In
> theory, those two combined could constitute a higher percentage of
> the contents that the tomato puree. It's a really crappy product,
> but that's to be expected from ConAgra. The only thing I know of
> that they put out that's good is Rosarita refried beans, and they are
> just the least marginal of all the canned refried beans.

Every once in a while I lose my head and buy some Manwich or similar. And
then as we can not eat our meals, I wonder why I did that once again? I
don't really even like to make them from scratch but they are a tad better.

As for the refried beans, I know of a few other brands that are good but
Rosarita are by far the best. We like the Zesty Salsa ones.

On 2/6/2013 7:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>
>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>
>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>
> Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
> making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
> broken up.
> --

Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on
low heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally.
Spoon onto hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.

Jill

jmcquown > wrote:

>On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:

-snip-
>>
>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
>I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>

Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
less bread.

Jim

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> On 2/6/2013 7:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>
>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>
>> Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
>> making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
>> broken up.
>> --
>
> Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
> peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
> beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
> tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on low
> heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally. Spoon onto
> hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.

Thank you Ma'am) I might give that a try


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"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
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> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>>On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> -snip-
>>>
>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>
>>I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>>They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>>over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>
>
> Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
> usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
> less bread.

So, really, it's like ground meat with gravy over a bun?

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On 2/6/2013 8:32 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> -snip-
>>>
>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>
>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>
>
> Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
> usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
> less bread.
>
> Jim
>
Yep, I do on Usenet. What I *really* enjoy is an open-face thinly
sliced hot roast beef sandwich smothered in gravy served on a toasted
french roll. Definitely requires a knife and fork!

Jill

On 2/6/2013 8:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> -snip-
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>
>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
>> usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
>> less bread.
>
> So, really, it's like ground meat with gravy over a bun?
>
Yes. Or half a bun, in this instance

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 2/6/2013 8:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> -snip-
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>>>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>>>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
>>> usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
>>> less bread.
>>
>> So, really, it's like ground meat with gravy over a bun?
>>
> Yes. Or half a bun, in this instance

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:35:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>
>> Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
>> peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
>> beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
>> tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on low
>> heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally. Spoon onto
>> hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.
>
>Thank you Ma'am) I might give that a try
>
It was my favorite thing to ask my mom to make for my birthday party.
It was a real treat to have sloppy joes, potato chips and orange soda.
I still make it a couple of times a year. I make mine as my mother
did. One pound ground beef browned with a little diced onion, diced
bell pepper and diced celery. Add one can of tomato soup and salt and
pepper to taste. Simmer a bit. (I know, horrors, canned tomato soup,
but it is the way she made it when making meals with canned soup was
popular)
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:35:41 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> snip
>
>>>
>>> Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
>>> peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
>>> beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
>>> tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on
>>> low
>>> heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally. Spoon
>>> onto
>>> hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.
>>
>>Thank you Ma'am) I might give that a try
>>
> It was my favorite thing to ask my mom to make for my birthday party.
> It was a real treat to have sloppy joes, potato chips and orange soda.
> I still make it a couple of times a year. I make mine as my mother
> did. One pound ground beef browned with a little diced onion, diced
> bell pepper and diced celery. Add one can of tomato soup and salt and
> pepper to taste. Simmer a bit. (I know, horrors, canned tomato soup,
> but it is the way she made it when making meals with canned soup was
> popular)

Thanks, Janet) I don't have any canned tomato soup. Would home made
tomato soup do? I would like to try and if it doesn't work, I will know my
soup is at fault!

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:15:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
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>>>
>> It was my favorite thing to ask my mom to make for my birthday party.
>> It was a real treat to have sloppy joes, potato chips and orange soda.
>> I still make it a couple of times a year. I make mine as my mother
>> did. One pound ground beef browned with a little diced onion, diced
>> bell pepper and diced celery. Add one can of tomato soup and salt and
>> pepper to taste. Simmer a bit. (I know, horrors, canned tomato soup,
>> but it is the way she made it when making meals with canned soup was
>> popular)
>
>Thanks, Janet) I don't have any canned tomato soup. Would home made
>tomato soup do? I would like to try and if it doesn't work, I will know my
>soup is at fault!
>
>--
Sure. I don't know what kind of tomato products you have available to
you. Here, I could use a can of tomato sauce (pureed tomatoes --
comes slightly seasoned with salt, maybe a few bland herb or spices),
or I could use some combination using tomato catsup to add the slight
sweetness. You don't want to use anything that smacks of spaghetti
sauce or Italian flavorings.
Pictures here
http://tinyurl.com/bd7erhz

Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:15:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> snip
>>>>
>>> It was my favorite thing to ask my mom to make for my birthday party.
>>> It was a real treat to have sloppy joes, potato chips and orange soda.
>>> I still make it a couple of times a year. I make mine as my mother
>>> did. One pound ground beef browned with a little diced onion, diced
>>> bell pepper and diced celery. Add one can of tomato soup and salt and
>>> pepper to taste. Simmer a bit. (I know, horrors, canned tomato soup,
>>> but it is the way she made it when making meals with canned soup was
>>> popular)
>>
>>Thanks, Janet) I don't have any canned tomato soup. Would home made
>>tomato soup do? I would like to try and if it doesn't work, I will know
>>my
>>soup is at fault!
>>
>>--
> Sure. I don't know what kind of tomato products you have available to
> you. Here, I could use a can of tomato sauce (pureed tomatoes --
> comes slightly seasoned with salt, maybe a few bland herb or spices),
> or I could use some combination using tomato catsup to add the slight
> sweetness. You don't want to use anything that smacks of spaghetti
> sauce or Italian flavorings.
> Pictures here
> http://tinyurl.com/bd7erhz

Thanks, those pictures show it all


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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:23:28 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did eat
>>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>>
>>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>>>> what a
>>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>>
>>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>>> there
>>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>>> It
>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>
>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>
>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
>> served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
>> plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>
>Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
>making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
>broken up.

Sloppy Joe is chili on a burger bun but it's chili minus the chili
powder, that's the only difference. But I suppose one could eat chili
on a burger bun, lots of folks eat chili on a tortilla.. many eat
chili on a hotdog bun with a hotdog, so why can't there be a Sloppy
Joe Dawg?

On 2/6/2013 11:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:15:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> snip
>>>>>
>>>> It was my favorite thing to ask my mom to make for my birthday party.
>>>> It was a real treat to have sloppy joes, potato chips and orange soda.
>>>> I still make it a couple of times a year. I make mine as my mother
>>>> did. One pound ground beef browned with a little diced onion, diced
>>>> bell pepper and diced celery. Add one can of tomato soup and salt and
>>>> pepper to taste. Simmer a bit. (I know, horrors, canned tomato soup,
>>>> but it is the way she made it when making meals with canned soup was
>>>> popular)
>>>
>>> Thanks, Janet) I don't have any canned tomato soup. Would home made
>>> tomato soup do? I would like to try and if it doesn't work, I will
>>> know my
>>> soup is at fault!
>>>
>>> --
>> Sure. I don't know what kind of tomato products you have available to
>> you. Here, I could use a can of tomato sauce (pureed tomatoes --
>> comes slightly seasoned with salt, maybe a few bland herb or spices),
>> or I could use some combination using tomato catsup to add the slight
>> sweetness. You don't want to use anything that smacks of spaghetti
>> sauce or Italian flavorings.
>> Pictures here
>> http://tinyurl.com/bd7erhz
>
> Thanks, those pictures show it all
>
>
LOLOL! Those images are comical. I've never seen a "sloppy joe" piled
that high! A couple or three tablespoonfuls of the sauced meat mixture
on the bun will do. Unless, as was previously suggested, it's served
open face on one half of a bun. In that instance I'd use a knife & fork

Agreed you don't want sloppy joes to taste like spaghetti sauce.

Jill

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 04:52:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:40:56 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:08:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > For that matter, wouldn't a Sloppy Joe be loose meat too?
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > Sloppy Joes are loose meat with a tomato product in it which someone
>>
>> > upthread makes it *not* a loose meat sandwich. I'm not writing these
>>
>> > rules, just repeating them.
>>
>>
>>
>> One pound of ground beast mixed with a can of "Manwich"
>>
>> There's your best "sloppy joe" sandwiches. Eat with salty chips.
>>
>A few years ago, I bought a few cans of Manwich because they were really cheap.

Bwrrrryan would suck down anything named Manwhich.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:01:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> As for the refried beans, I know of a few other brands that are good but
> Rosarita are by far the best. We like the Zesty Salsa ones.

I saw that yesterday and thought it was a new product. Bought the
jalapeno instead.

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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:23:28 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did
>>>>>>> eat
>>>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>>>>> what a
>>>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>>>
>>>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>>>> there
>>>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could
>>>>> have
>>>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>>>> It
>>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>
>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
>>> served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
>>> plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>
>>Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
>>making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
>>broken up.
>
> Sloppy Joe is chili on a burger bun but it's chili minus the chili
> powder, that's the only difference. But I suppose one could eat chili
> on a burger bun, lots of folks eat chili on a tortilla.. many eat
> chili on a hotdog bun with a hotdog, so why can't there be a Sloppy
> Joe Dawg?

You tell me!

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 03:51:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there, there
> >> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
> >> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce. It
> >> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
> >> it... Well, then you'll know!
> >
> > Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
> Yes. Unless you want to wear it!
>
I like to pick mine up, so I make it a not-so-sloppy Joe.

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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:06:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.

Exactly.

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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:12:36 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 2/6/2013 7:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
> >>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
> >>
> >> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
> >> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
> >> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
> >
> > Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
> > making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
> > broken up.
> > --
>
> Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
> peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
> beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
> tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on
> low heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally.

I like a little molasses in mine when I make it from scratch, but when
push comes to shove - nothing beats the Manwich packet AFAIC.

> Spoon onto hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.
>
Otherwise it will turn to mush immediately.



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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:32:00 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

> jmcquown > wrote:
>
> >On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> -snip-
> >>
> >> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
> >
> >I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
> >They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
> >over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
> >
>
> Yeah you do-- on Usenet, anyway.<g> I make them open-face. I
> usually only use 1/2 the bun or a slice of bread. More meat & sauce-
> less bread.
>
I've tried it that way and that's how hubby always does it, but I
don't see the point. Pick it up in your hands or don't bother.

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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:13:08 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> What I *really* enjoy is an open-face thinly
> sliced hot roast beef sandwich smothered in gravy served on a toasted
> french roll. Definitely requires a knife and fork!

The old fashioned diner type of hot roast beef sandwich is what I used
to totally enjoy. It was served on a slice of cheap white bread - I
don't remember if it was even toasted. A sandwich roll would be too
much bread AFAIC. I liked the way they layered it: bread, meat, a
scoop of mashed potatoes and then they drowned it all in gravy. I
haven't had one of those in decades, but they are probably better
tasting in my memory than they would be in the present.

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:52:51 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:23:28 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't know the term was based on Maid-Rites either. But I did
>>>>>>>> eat
>>>>>>>> loose meat sandwiches when I was in Iowa. Apparently they're quite
>>>>>>>> popular in that part of the country and have been for decades.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd rather have a sloppy joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please will you describe the difference? I don't even really know
>>>>>>> what a
>>>>>>> 'sloppy joe' is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
>>>> served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
>>>> plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>>
>>>Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
>>>making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
>>>broken up.
>>
>> Sloppy Joe is chili on a burger bun but it's chili minus the chili
>> powder, that's the only difference. But I suppose one could eat chili
>> on a burger bun, lots of folks eat chili on a tortilla.. many eat
>> chili on a hotdog bun with a hotdog, so why can't there be a Sloppy
>> Joe Dawg?
>
>You tell me!

https://twitter.com/ChilliDogs

On 2/6/2013 12:18 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:12:36 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/2013 7:23 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
>>>> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
>>>> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>>>
>>> Sure sounds like a knife and fork job to me) Could you talk me though
>>> making it? I had assumed it was the same as hamburger (the patty) but
>>> broken up.
>>> --
>>
>> Use a knife and fork if you wish Making it? Minced beef, salt &
>> peppered then browned. I add a bit of minced onion and cook it with the
>> beef in the fat until tender. Drain the beef well. Add tomato sauce or
>> tomato puree and any sort of seasonings you might want. Simmer it on
>> low heat for a while to cook down the sauce, stirring occasionally.
>
> I like a little molasses in mine when I make it from scratch, but when
> push comes to shove - nothing beats the Manwich packet AFAIC.
>
>> Spoon onto hamburger buns (I like mine lightly toasted). That's about it.
>>
> Otherwise it will turn to mush immediately.
>
>
>
I've never had the Manwich stuff. I can't even find an ingredients list
online. Nutrition information makes it sound like there is nothing but
sodium in it:

http://www.conagrafoods.com/our-food...oppy-joe-sauce

Making sloppy joes from scratch I wouldn't add molasses but that's just
me. I just don't care for sweet beef. (Make of that what you want,
trolls! LOL)

Jill





Jill

On 2/6/2013 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 03:51:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A Sloppy Joe has a tomato sauce mixed with the meat but from there, there
>>>> are tons of variations. Could have bell peppers and onions, could have
>>>> BBQ sauce but the sauce is usually more sweet than just tomato sauce. It
>>>> is called "sloppy" because if you've ever tried to pick one up to eat
>>>> it... Well, then you'll know!
>>>
>>> Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>>
>> Yes. Unless you want to wear it!
>>
> I like to pick mine up, so I make it a not-so-sloppy Joe.
>
Exactly. Don't overload the sandwich. If you're eating it as a
sandwich. Some people over-dress hamburgers, too, with sauces and
condiments. As if they don't ever drip. Heheh.

Jill

On 2/6/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:13:08 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> What I *really* enjoy is an open-face thinly
>> sliced hot roast beef sandwich smothered in gravy served on a toasted
>> french roll. Definitely requires a knife and fork!
>
> The old fashioned diner type of hot roast beef sandwich is what I used
> to totally enjoy. It was served on a slice of cheap white bread - I
> don't remember if it was even toasted. A sandwich roll would be too
> much bread AFAIC. I liked the way they layered it: bread, meat, a
> scoop of mashed potatoes and then they drowned it all in gravy. I
> haven't had one of those in decades, but they are probably better
> tasting in my memory than they would be in the present.
>
What I'm remembering didn't involve mashed potatoes or layering of any
kind. It was a half a slice of a french roll, toasted. Topped with
thinly sliced roast beef and very nicely seasoned gravy. Served hot.
Yes, it's been a lot of years. I should try to do this with some of the
rib roast I have in the freezer...

Jill

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:25:14 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:13:08 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> What I *really* enjoy is an open-face thinly
>> sliced hot roast beef sandwich smothered in gravy served on a toasted
>> french roll. Definitely requires a knife and fork!
>
>The old fashioned diner type of hot roast beef sandwich is what I used
>to totally enjoy. It was served on a slice of cheap white bread - I
>don't remember if it was even toasted. A sandwich roll would be too
>much bread AFAIC. I liked the way they layered it: bread, meat, a
>scoop of mashed potatoes and then they drowned it all in gravy. I
>haven't had one of those in decades, but they are probably better
>tasting in my memory than they would be in the present.

Each spring when growing up, my dad would drive us cross country to a
convention. I loved it when we stopped at road-side diners and I
could get a hot roast beef sandwich, just as you describe.
Janet US

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:46:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/6/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:13:08 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What I *really* enjoy is an open-face thinly
>>> sliced hot roast beef sandwich smothered in gravy served on a toasted
>>> french roll. Definitely requires a knife and fork!
>>
>> The old fashioned diner type of hot roast beef sandwich is what I used
>> to totally enjoy. It was served on a slice of cheap white bread - I
>> don't remember if it was even toasted. A sandwich roll would be too
>> much bread AFAIC. I liked the way they layered it: bread, meat, a
>> scoop of mashed potatoes and then they drowned it all in gravy. I
>> haven't had one of those in decades, but they are probably better
>> tasting in my memory than they would be in the present.
>>
>What I'm remembering didn't involve mashed potatoes or layering of any
>kind. It was a half a slice of a french roll, toasted. Topped with
>thinly sliced roast beef and very nicely seasoned gravy. Served hot.
>Yes, it's been a lot of years. I should try to do this with some of the
>rib roast I have in the freezer...
>
>Jill
Isn't that a French dip? Love those too. Haven't seen one in years
and years.
Janet US

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 2/6/2013 4:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > Thanks! So it is a knife and fork job is it?
>
> I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork.
> They're served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean
> over the plate a bit when you're taking a bite.

Agreed. Knife and fork is just wrong for a sloppy joe. It's a 2-handed
sandwich and like Jill said, lean over the plate. Cheap but good meal
occasionally!

Gary

sf wrote:
>

> Speaking of Manwich - can or dried in a packet? I've tried both
> prefer the packet myself.

Huh! I never even knew they made dry packet kind. I'll have to try that
sometime. I've always just bought the can. And it's like once per year.
Not like I eat this all the time.

I do that with a lot of food.... I'll love it but don't eat it often. And
after a long time passes, it sounds very good once again.

Gary

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote :
> > I don't know anyone who eats a sloppy joe with a knife and fork. They're
> > served on hamburger buns. Just don't overfill the bun. Lean over the
> > plate a bit when you're taking a bite.
>
> Well, I would never pick one up! We've always eaten them with a knife and
> fork.

heheh Yes you would do that, Julie. But I'm surprised that you'd eat one to
start with. Plus you would not eat them on a bun. Might as well skip the
whole experience.

Again. I like them ok for a fast meal but only indulge maybe once per year.
Eat with a giant pile of salty potato chips (Lays Classic). That's the
night where you forget about diet and health.

Gary