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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... >I know a few of you must have, at one time or another, in one capacity or >another, worked in a restaurant. Or even run a restaurant. > > I'm about to write a "book". Skip over the post if you don't want to read > it ![]() > > I actually didn't mind being a server. I was young, 20 or so. I had > worked as a retail sales clerk for a couple of years. I quickly grew > bored with straightening racks of clothing and picking up crap in the > dressing rooms. (One time it literally *was* crap. Some woman had used > the dressing room as a "changing room" for her baby. She left the dirty > diaper on the floor. You might want to leave your shoes on the next time > you try on clothes in a store.) > > So I got a job as a server. I'm talking about Red Lobster. Boo and hiss > if you like. Back in the day it was owned by General Mills. They offered > medical benefits just like the retail job. Anyone working 20 hours a week > got major medical coverage (which wasn't true if you worked 20 hours - > part time- in retail). The tips (this was pre tip-tax days) easily > brought my weekly earnings up to and often exceeding minumum wage. > > Sure, I ran into the occasional jerk customer. I still remember one guy > rather vividly. Friday night, the restaurant was slammed. Everyone was > in the weeds. This guy couldn't fathom there were other tables seated > ahead of his party (of four). They had only been sitting there for about > 5 minutes, they had their water and I'd put in the drinks order at the > bar. (The bar was slammed, too.) This guy was getting belligerent. I > headed him off at the pass. I asked the manager to stop by his table and > comp their drinks before he pitched a major hissy fit. (The guy looked > like a frustrated middle-management type who thought he could lord it over > the lowly waitress.) > > Most of the customers were nice. I had numerous "call customers" (waiting > for the smartass remarks...). Those are people who ask for a server by > name and are willing to wait a few minutes for a table. > > I could carry six plates without a tray if necessary. Five were stacked > up my arm (napkins underneath of course). They were oval ceramic plates > with an edge on the bottom so they wouldn't slide apart. Hard to > describe. I carried the 6th plate in my right hand and set that one down > at the table first. (Servers also needed to know how to tell which person > ordered what. None of that "Uh, who had the ?" Marking the info on the > ticket based on the table seating was very helpful.) > > It's hard work, waiting tables. As was alluded to in the > surcharge/auto-tip thread (thanks for the fun, nb!!) there is a lot more > involved than just taking an order and bringing food and drinks to a > table. It is the servers' responsibility to make sure the food comes out > of the kitchen as ordered. Pre-bussing tables (remove soup and salad > plates to clear the way for the entree). Refilling water, coffee, tea. > And who makes the coffee and tea? The servers, of course. > > There's sidework in the kitchen. Keep the salad station filled, running > back to the cooler to get more salad green mix (which was freshly chopped, > by the way, I saw the guys prep it). Also back into the cooler if the > station was running out of a particular salad dressing. Had to keep them > filled. In my day, servers did a lot of work in the kitchen area and > customers had no clue. > > Then there's sidework when your section is closed. Those salt & pepper > shakers don't fill themselves. The servers clean the tables and chairs. > And... rolling silverware. (Some servers would pay others to roll their > 50 - or whatever the count was for that night - just so they could get out > of there 30 minutes earlier.) > > It was interesting. I worked with and met a lot of interesting people. > Would I do it again? I don't think I'd have the energy. Or the patience > ![]() > > Jill I never did because I had friends who did and I knew all the work they did. I didn't want to do that! I did work once and only once as a dishwasher at our church. Got paid $50 for two hours of work so wished I could have that job all the time but my friend who was the minister's daughter had it. I just filled in for her once when she had something else to do. I did have to fill in at the deli when I worked at K Mart. Not quite restaurant work and I can say that I did not like it. The Icee machine liked to spew sticky stuff on me and I hated scooping the ice cream. Luckily that wasn't something I did very often. I did occasionally have to help cook breakfast for all of the employees, and at one point that was about 200. Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't renew the lease. My former store is closing in March. I sure hope I can still get my pension! Looks like I am going to have to try to get it early which wasn't what I wanted to do. Now it makes me wish I had taken that buy out that they offered me a couple of months ago. But it's too late for that now! |
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On 2/4/2013 10:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I did have to fill in at the deli when I worked at K Mart. Not quite > restaurant work and I can say that I did not like it. The Icee machine > liked to spew sticky stuff on me and I hated scooping the ice cream. > Luckily that wasn't something I did very often. > I never saw a KMart with a "deli", much less an ice cream parlor. Guess I've been shielded. > Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears > will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't > renew the lease. My former store is closing in March. I sure hope I can > still get my pension! Looks like I am going to have to try to get it early > which wasn't what I wanted to do. Now it makes me wish I had taken that buy > out that they offered me a couple of months ago. But it's too late for that > now! > If you're convinced of this then please check into the pension situaton *now*. It's not something to daudle about. Jill |
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 07:41:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears > will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't > renew the lease. I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it neat. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2/4/2013 11:10 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 07:41:54 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears >> will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't >> renew the lease. > > I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but > some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. > http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ > K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. > They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking > because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it > neat. > I haven't been to the one in Beaufort in a while but it was a very neat, tidy store. It was brightly lit. The employees were very helpful. I just don't have much reason to shop there. For the sake of the workers I hope it doesn't close. Still, I'm not going out of my way (literally) to shop at a store that doesn't sell much of anything I need or want. Jill |
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:36:27 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: > On 2/4/2013 11:10 AM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 07:41:54 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > >> Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears > >> will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't > >> renew the lease. > > > > I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but > > some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. > > http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ > > K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. > > They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking > > because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it > > neat. > > > I haven't been to the one in Beaufort in a while but it was a very neat, > tidy store. It was brightly lit. The employees were very helpful. I > just don't have much reason to shop there. For the sake of the workers > I hope it doesn't close. Still, I'm not going out of my way (literally) > to shop at a store that doesn't sell much of anything I need or want. > I was so used to seeing cruddy KMarts that I was actually shocked to see how neat & clean the one in Corvallis was when my mother moved up there. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2013-02-04, jmcquown > wrote:
> I never saw a KMart with a "deli", much less an ice cream parlor. Guess > I've been shielded. Not sure it qualified as a true deli, but it was typically a small deli-style "cold case" with some unsliced cheapo ham and bologna and cheese bricks in it. I usta buy the $.50 ham hero sammys. Ham, cheese, tomato, and mayo on a sub sub bun. Quite the deal. Some had ice cream, but I recall Kress having the lone ice cream freezer with the classic waffle/neapolitan ice cream sammy and half doz bulk ice creams for cone fodder. nb |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 2/4/2013 10:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> I did have to fill in at the deli when I worked at K Mart. Not quite >> restaurant work and I can say that I did not like it. The Icee machine >> liked to spew sticky stuff on me and I hated scooping the ice cream. >> Luckily that wasn't something I did very often. >> > I never saw a KMart with a "deli", much less an ice cream parlor. Guess > I've been shielded. > Originally they had good popcorn, a hot machine that held things that were frozen and heated in the cafeteria. They were kept in a warmer there. They looked like burritos but were called Taco Snacks and Pizza Snacks. The problem? They looked alike and you couldn't tell which was which until you bit into them. I liked the Taco but not the Pizza so much. You had to pay attention when heating and then make sure you told the person who put them in the case which was which or they'd get mixed up. There were also hot pretzels but I think they may have been in one of those rotating cases with hooks on it. We had probably a dozen or so kinds of hard ice cream. And the Icee machine. Two flavors. Sometimes Icee Bear would come in. This was someone dressed in a big white bear suit with a red T Shirt on. Kids loved Icee Bear! There was a deli case that held a red glazed ham. We discovered that the night crew had been stealing the ham so every night it had to be reglazed so that we could tell for sure. I think they eventually hooked up a security cam there. The sandwiches sold were ham or ham and cheese. Very tiny amount of ham shave paper thin on one of those huge slicers that caused more than one employee to have to to the ER for stitches. Thankfully I never had to use it. There was also a slice of American cheese and a little lettuce which was also shredded on that machine. Then there were subs and super subs. I didn't like these so don't remember the difference. I know the super one was different but not sure if it had some other kind of meat in addition to the ham. Both had the lettuce, very thinly sliced tomatoes, onions and mustard. The small ham sandwiches may have had mustard too. Those were on cheap hamburger buns. These sandwiches were made up many at a time and put in plastic bags. They changed them out just prior to dinner time and at that time, any leftovers would be sold for cheap. I mean really cheap. Like 25 cents. I can't remember the prices now but I do know if you bought more than one you got a discount. Once in a while I'd buy cheap Super Subs when I worked the late shift and I'd bring them to my dad. He liked them. For some reason they didn't keep the hot snacks or pretzels for very long. And eventually the good popcorn was replaced with a machine called Air Popt. That popcorn was like eating salted straw. We got a lot of complaints about that. We also had the cafeteria and depending on who the manager was, the food could be passable to very good. For many years when I worked there we had a woman named Mary who ran it and she was a very good cook. Yes, the vegetables came canned and a lot of seniors ate there but... She bent the rules a lot and put things on the menu that did not come from headquarters and made things that she wasn't supposed to. At some point they did away with the mashed potatoes on the steam table and brought in a machine that made them on the spot. It pooped them out into a little cup that had a pink bladder in it. When the cup was turned upside down, it would deposit them onto the place in a rounded scoop shape. The pink bladder part looked pretty creepy and people didn't want to see it. We had several kinds of soft drinks, including one machine that shot the liquids up and sprayed them back down. Those drinks varied but they were always fruit flavored. There was a big stainless steel iced tea dispenser and I learned not to get that after a clump of mold came out into my cup. They didn't clean that very often. And once, some high school kids called snickering and said they were going to poison us. They had put Pointsettia leaves in the tea. And they had! We had a high school right behind us and we frequently had trouble with those kids. We had a little salad bar and there were little side dishes of things like cottage cheese, boiled eggs (dyed and in the shell for Easter), pudding, all kinds of pie. We sold various ice cream dishes and at one point there were balloons. If you ordered a banana split, you got a balloon, popped it and it would tell you inside what you would have to pay. Sometimes they were free. One of the best desserts they had was the apple dumplings. They came frozen. Whole peeled and cored apple in pastry and heated in a pan with sticky cinnamon syrup. Then smothered in vanilla sauce with a cherry on top. They also served bread pudding which my friend with the bad teeth and the seniors all seemed to love. It was made from scratch. They served breakfast too. At some point not long before I retired from there, the rats took over. We'd had severe trouble with rats and cockroaches. They had been a slight problem for years, perhaps because there were woods behind the store but... A little Asian place had opened in that strip mall and the owners fled. We had no clue where they went and they left food in there. The rats got in and then ran out of food so come over to our store through the suspended ceiling. Sometimes when they ran up there it sounded like a herd of elephants. Sometimes they ran around during the day and customers saw them. I hated this because at the time I was in charge of the food department. When I went into the back room, I'd bang on the metal parts of the shelving units with a big stick to scare them off. Some were as big as house cats. We lost a lot of food due to those rats! Some of the employees called the health department and they were constantly in there. The cafeteria employees spoke to the rest of the employees and told us what few specific items were safe for us to eat but said most things were not because they couldn't protect them from the rats and roaches. I stopped eating in there. Both the cafeteria and deli were closed not long after I left and they had no food for a while. Them they opened the K-Cafe which is still there but rarely ever open. People didn't want to work there becase it too had rats. They'd see a rat then quit. My friend told me if I ever went back in there not to get any food or drinks from it because not only were there rats but people were getting food poisoning from the tuna sandwiches. I don't know what all they sold there but she told me it was a very limited menu and few people ever bought food there. Some of the K Marts had Furr's cafeterias and according to my parents these were very good. They may not have been in the store proper but next door. I did see one once but I can't remember what state it was in. My mom loved them because the had fried okra and she said it was very good. I think these were mainly in the Midwest. I think they are all closed now. >> Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears >> will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't >> renew the lease. My former store is closing in March. I sure hope I can >> still get my pension! Looks like I am going to have to try to get it >> early >> which wasn't what I wanted to do. Now it makes me wish I had taken that >> buy >> out that they offered me a couple of months ago. But it's too late for >> that >> now! >> > If you're convinced of this then please check into the pension situaton > *now*. It's not something to daudle about. I am too young to get it now. I think I can get it at age 55. I just read the link that he posted. I will post it here. But unless he knows something additional that I don't know, it looks to me like they are only planning to close a lot of stores. Not all of them. But he did mention something about the district manager so it could be that he *does* know some kind of insider information. I'm a tad worried about some of my appliances too. I just got a recall on my LG washer and it came from Sears. I have to call repair on that. Here's the link: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eight-...173320796.html |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 07:41:54 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> Just got an e-mail from a former coworker that said all K Marts and Sears >> will be closing at some point during the next 3 years. They simply won't >> renew the lease. > > I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but > some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. > http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ > K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. > They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking > because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it > neat. Yes. That's the way I read it too. And it said that the "brick and mortar" stores were having financial trouble. They do sell online and when I buy from them, that's usually how I shopped. The store where I worked cut back on employees so much that I was lucky to see two of them when I went there. One in the pharmacy (which we did not have when I worked there) and one cashier. There are plenty of people still working there that I know. But I never saw them. I do worry about what will happen to them. Most are my age, close to it or older. Employers are not looking for people of that age. I was talking to a friend the other day about the store closing. When she and I worked there, they were *very* picky about how the store looked. They literally did do the white glove test. And one manager went so far as to stick a Q Tip in obscure corners to see if there was dust there. We had a night crew who stocked the shelves and another who did the cleaning. And the floor cleaning device kicked up a lot of dust. So each morning we had to come in early and dust. Especially the glass shelves above the towels that really showed dust. In the morning we also put away returns and repackaged items. But repackaging was also done throughout the day when we had the time. At night we all stayed an hour late to straighten and front face the shelves. In addition, each of us was assigned a random aisle and end cap somewhere in the store. We were to keep these filled and straightened at all times which was a perfectly silly thing to have us try to do, especially if those places were far from the department(s) where we worked. But they did try very hard to keep the shelves filled and the store clean. Yes, we were overrun with pigeons (dead and alive), roaches and rats. But we did try like mad to get rid of those things. It just seemed an impossible task. The exterminator was in there at least weekly and we just couldn't seem to make a dent in it. That was partly due to the poor design of the strip mall with a common suspended ceiling and a poor landlord who refused to make repairs and just didn't care. The roof caved in more than once. In those days, despite the large number of employees that we had (at one point, about 200 including the auto shop), we still didn't have enough people to provide good customer service. Nor were there enough registers. We had 10. Almost always long lines. Advertised items selling out on the first or second day. Believe me we lowly employees tried our best. But it was a very poorly run company then and from what I hear now, even more poorly run now. That's because they make all of these stupid corporate decisions and those old farts who are on the top levels are clearly out of touch with the way things work and what customers want. I could write a novel on that but I won't. Sad thing is, most of the former employees dislike the place so much that they rarely ever go back. I think I may have been there 5 times. Maybe. Maybe not even that many times, since we moved back here 8 years ago. I mainly only went out of curiosity. And I rarely shopped there before I worked there even though we had one just over 2 miles from our house. When I was a kid, we had a Putt Putt golf near there. We'd often walk up there and play golf all day, taking a break to walk to the K Mart for lunch. At that point in time there weren't many other places to eat close by. I think the next closest place was XXX root beer and to get there you had to walk down a very busy highway. Then there was Henry's. That wasn't even the name of the place. It was something like Sunshine Sundries or something like that. But the foul tempered man who owned it was named Henry. My dad made the mistake of buying ice cream from him once and he ordered us never to go in there. The school also ordered us never to go in there. There was a rumor that he sold drugs in there. I don't know. I was too frightened of the place to go in there. But of course some kids did. The ones with the bad reputation. And then when I was in 6th grade and for a few years in Jr. High I did buy some shoes, swimsuits and a few tops in there. I had a very hard to fit body. Was extremely thin and tall. Kids clothes fit me around but were too short. And most adults clothes were far too big. But they sold badly fitting (for most people) clothing in there and a few select pieces did fit me. Most of the shoes were crap. But I did get one pair of leather sandals that were nice and I liked one kind of slippers that they sold. They were also one of the closest places that sold 45 records so once in a while we'd buy those. Then in high school at back to school time they had a sale on odd candy bars 10/$1.00. My dad would send me in there to buy as many as they'd let me have. We sold them at the Jr. Achievement meetings for 25 cents each. I did the same when I was put in charge of the student store. My teacher was amazed because we couldn't get candy from the jobber for that cheap. And the kids usually didn't care what brand it was. It was candy and it was cheap! So they bought it. Other than that, I don't think I ever set foot in that store, unless perhaps they had some kind of advertised item that my dad wanted to buy. But that wasn't very often. |
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![]() "jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > I haven't been to the one in Beaufort in a while but it was a very neat, > tidy store. It was brightly lit. The employees were very helpful. I > just don't have much reason to shop there. For the sake of the workers I > hope it doesn't close. Still, I'm not going out of my way (literally) to > shop at a store that doesn't sell much of anything I need or want. The only one we went to in CA was in Oakland and I was truly shocked at the appearance. Not only filthy and dirty but they left pallets everywhere who you couldn't get up and down certain aisles. And both times we went there (once with my husband and once with my dad), some bum approached us for money. My store almost always had at least one security guard working. And when they did not, there was always an extra manager on duty. We took stuff like this very seriously and we did not allow people like that to bug customers. This store just didn't care. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > I was so used to seeing cruddy KMarts that I was actually shocked to > see how neat & clean the one in Corvallis was when my mother moved up > there. The last time I went to the one in North Seattle was 2 years ago. It was actually clean and neat and well stocked which was odd because I saw only two employees working. What I didn't see was customers. We did see a few but really very few given the size of the store. And we didn't have to wait in line. Where they really took a turn for the worse (I say worse because it wasn't actually the worst. That would come later) was when they made the big announcement that they wanted to attract a better customer base. They wanted to be more like the Bon Marche. And that's not what people wanted. They stopped selling the packages of candy that were 2/$1. Stopped selling the Lander's cosmetics and cheap $1 hardware type tools and often broke during the first use. Although I think I still have that $1 hammer that I bought some 30 years ago. Granted I only ever used it for hanging pictures. The type of customers they did attract did want that sort of stuff. I do actually see the Landers cosmetics from time to time at various dollar stores. And of course the cheap hardware. And once they did that, that's when the profits stopped. They stopped doing the blue light specials. Another thing that customers loved. They stopped drastically marking down stuff that wasn't selling. I once bought a nice red sweater at Nordstrom for $10 on the clearance rack. We sold the same sweater for $20! Granted the prices were more likely $9.99 and $19.99 but close enough. So instead of selling the cheaply made and cheaply priced clothing, we brought in better stuff. I bought some YSL sweaters there once that may or may not have been bogus but they did look nice. We even had some Nike footwear. But people didn't come to K Mart for stuff like that. |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2013-02-04, jmcquown > wrote: > >> I never saw a KMart with a "deli", much less an ice cream parlor. Guess >> I've been shielded. > > Not sure it qualified as a true deli, but it was typically a small > deli-style "cold case" with some unsliced cheapo ham and bologna and > cheese bricks in it. I usta buy the $.50 ham hero sammys. Ham, > cheese, tomato, and mayo on a sub sub bun. Quite the deal. Some had > ice cream, but I recall Kress having the lone ice cream freezer with > the classic waffle/neapolitan ice cream sammy and half doz bulk ice > creams for cone fodder. Hmmm... Could have sworn that ours had mustard on them. But I think I only ate them once or twice when I was too broke to buy anything else. I really didn't like them. |
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> On 2013-02-04, jmcquown > wrote: > >> I never saw a KMart with a "deli", much less an ice cream parlor. Guess >> I've been shielded. > > Not sure it qualified as a true deli, but it was typically a small > deli-style "cold case" with some unsliced cheapo ham and bologna and > cheese bricks in it. I usta buy the $.50 ham hero sammys. Ham, > cheese, tomato, and mayo on a sub sub bun. Quite the deal. Some had > ice cream, but I recall Kress having the lone ice cream freezer with > the classic waffle/neapolitan ice cream sammy and half doz bulk ice > creams for cone fodder. > > nb Sure. Kmart hoagie, famous. And the sit down restaurant. And the auto store. And lots of fishing and hunting, GUNS. Used to be a fun place. Greg |
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:10:34 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but >some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. >http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ >K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. >They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking >because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it >neat. Both stores time has come and gone. We had a K Mark in town for years and it was changed to a Sears Essentials for a few years and now back to K Mart. It was never very good and seems to be sliding. I go there maybe twice a year because it is not crowded and if they have a brand name item I'll buy it. Seems like the quality of the goods keeps going down too. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:10:34 -0800, sf > wrote: > > > >> >>I'm not under the impression that *all* Sears stores are closing, but >>some of them are. I suppose the less profitable locations go first. >>http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/12/2...b/interactive/ >>K-Mart closed here a long time ago and I was glad to see it leave. >>They didn't take care of that store. It was always unkempt looking >>because they didn't employ enough workers to tidy it up and keep it >>neat. > > Both stores time has come and gone. We had a K Mark in town for years > and it was changed to a Sears Essentials for a few years and now back > to K Mart. It was never very good and seems to be sliding. I go > there maybe twice a year because it is not crowded and if they have a > brand name item I'll buy it. Seems like the quality of the goods > keeps going down too. They just opened a new Sears Appliance store near here. Hmmm... K Mart took on the Martha Stewart line some years ago and it just never appealed to me. Linens and dishes and I think bakeware. All colors I don't like. |
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