"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> How do you arrive at this conclusion? The parent (who owns the
> refrigerator) is responsible for teaching the kids not to stand there
> staring into the fridge. It doesn't take long to look in the fridge. Food
> isn't going to magically appear. While I do believe "today's young folks"
> help themselves to frozen snacks if there are any in the freezer, I don't
> think they're stupid enough to walk off and leave the door standing open.
> The microwave is in the kitchen, so is the fridge. Nearly impossible not
> to notice you left the door open.

Someone in this house does do just that. Stands there staring, then leaves
the door open. But it isn't me and it isn't the kid.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:43:01 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> cause?
>
> Don't tell Sears it's broken and you'll still get the $12/year
> non-Energy Star credit. Eventually it will pay for itself (though I'm
> sure there's a limit to how many years they'll give you the $12).

Heh! That's true! Actually it doesn't seem to be broken but perhaps it's
too soon to tell. I have no intention at the moment of filling it. I have
a little room in my freezer in the house. Might get a few things to put in
it when I go to Winco this week, if I find some really good prices. But we
do have plenty of shelf stable food at the moment so we're good.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:44:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm going to look for a freezer alarm. If they don't cost too much I'll
>> get
>> one. Supposed to alert you when the temp gets too high.
>>
>
> I've never heard of that. Please post a link when you find it.

There are a lot in varying designs and prices. I got this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Visual-R...=freezer+alarm

The main drawback that people complained about is that it is somewhat quiet.
But that's what I wanted because I wouldn't want to drive the kittehs nuts
if it did go off and we weren't home. I go out into the garage often
enough. But now I know that just looking at the green light on the freezer
simply isn't enough.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >>
> >>I guess I will have to not operate it in the winter then. No place to put
> >>it that is warmer and no way to get it into the house.
> >
> > I don't believe you can't get a 5 cu ft freezer into your house... it
> > will fit through the front door with lots of room to spare... your
> > fridge fit through the door... you fit too.
>
> I can't *personally* do it. It's just too heavy for me. And I don't think
> daughter and I together could do it either. She didn't try to do anything
> with it because the summer we got it, she was in a back brace and couldn't
> do much.
>
> But there is no place to put it in this house. It's a very small house.

You could put one in your jacuzzi.

Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>> > Julie, if it says it's not designed to operate in less than 55 degrees
>> > Farenheit, that's your problem. I know it sounds like a freezer ought to
>> > be able to function in freezing temperatures but perhaps not - the motor,
>> > etc., isn't in the cold box.
>> >
>> > -S-
>>
>> Guess I simply can not operate it in the winter then.
>
> Not knowing myself at all but that sounds like total BS to me. A freezer
> should be connected and controled by an INTERNAL thermometer, not go by
> outside temperature. I know many people with freezers and fridges in their
> garage and I've never heard this nonsense.

my (Kenmore) 5 c.f. chest freezer spent its first few years in the
unheated shop - never had a problem

Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess I will have to not operate it in the winter then. No
>>>> place to put it that is warmer and no way to get it into the house.
>>>
>>> I don't believe you can't get a 5 cu ft freezer into your house...
>>> it will fit through the front door with lots of room to spare...
>>> your fridge fit through the door... you fit too.
>>
>> I can't *personally* do it. It's just too heavy for me. And I
>> don't think daughter and I together could do it either. She didn't
>> try to do anything with it because the summer we got it, she was in
>> a back brace and couldn't do much.
>>
>> But there is no place to put it in this house. It's a very small
>> house.
>
> You could put one in your jacuzzi.

It *would* fit in there but whoever designed this house didn't put any
electrical outlets at that end of the bathroom.

spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> Philco had a full range of appliances in the 60s, kind of like GM and
> Frigidaire. The husband of a friend of my mother's worked for Ford,
> and got deep discounts on Philco-Ford appliances. They moved into a
> new house back then, and got a Philco refrigerator and stove, as well
> as a new TV.

I mostly remember TVs and radios but probably because there was this little
repair shop that my friend and I would pass by when we walked to the store.
I don't know that they only repaired that brand but it had dingy and sun
bleached ads in the window for Philco-Ford. The place was very tiny and
scary looking and we never saw a person in there. We always wondered if it
was still open for business. Then one day they bulldozed it.

tert in seattle wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>>>> Julie, if it says it's not designed to operate in less than 55
>>>> degrees Farenheit, that's your problem. I know it sounds like a
>>>> freezer ought to be able to function in freezing temperatures but
>>>> perhaps not - the motor, etc., isn't in the cold box.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>
>>> Guess I simply can not operate it in the winter then.
>>
>> Not knowing myself at all but that sounds like total BS to me. A
>> freezer should be connected and controled by an INTERNAL
>> thermometer, not go by outside temperature. I know many people with
>> freezers and fridges in their garage and I've never heard this
>> nonsense.
>
> my (Kenmore) 5 c.f. chest freezer spent its first few years in the
> unheated shop - never had a problem

There certainly were no problems with it the winter before and it was pretty
full too. But maybe we had milder weather? I do think we maybe had one
snow day but I don't recall the freezing weather for weeks on end like we
had this past winter. I say past because it seems like spring today. Not
sure when the official start date is.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:10:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:44:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm going to look for a freezer alarm. If they don't cost too much I'll
> >> get
> >> one. Supposed to alert you when the temp gets too high.
> >>
> >
> > I've never heard of that. Please post a link when you find it.
>
> There are a lot in varying designs and prices. I got this one:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Visual-R...=freezer+alarm
>
> The main drawback that people complained about is that it is somewhat quiet.
> But that's what I wanted because I wouldn't want to drive the kittehs nuts
> if it did go off and we weren't home. I go out into the garage often
> enough. But now I know that just looking at the green light on the freezer
> simply isn't enough.
>
Thanks for the link.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:10:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:44:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm going to look for a freezer alarm. If they don't cost too
>>>> much I'll get
>>>> one. Supposed to alert you when the temp gets too high.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've never heard of that. Please post a link when you find it.
>>
>> There are a lot in varying designs and prices. I got this one:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Visual-R...=freezer+alarm
>>
>> The main drawback that people complained about is that it is
>> somewhat quiet. But that's what I wanted because I wouldn't want to
>> drive the kittehs nuts if it did go off and we weren't home. I go
>> out into the garage often enough. But now I know that just looking
>> at the green light on the freezer simply isn't enough.
>>
> Thanks for the link.

Sure! I am convinced now that the problem was indeed a power failure.

When we came home the other night I said to Angela that something didn't
look right about the house. We have lights all along the front of the house
that come on when it gets dark. But at the corner of the garage, there is
also one that comes on when activated by motion. It was on. And it stayed
on. This is not the first time this has happened and to shut it off, you
have to shut off the switch just inside the garage and then turn it back on.
It will then reset to the motion activated.

Although this has happened a few times in the past, I never made the
connection to it being a power failure. But now I am pretty sure that it
was!

The inside of the garage is colder than the house but warmer than the
outside. Nothing has ever frozen out there just sitting out. We keep soda,
bottled water and some canned foods out there. Even some cleaning supplies.
It's all fine.

I still do not intend to fill the freezer again until my husband comes home
for good because he is the one that eats most of the frozen stuff. I am
trying to introduce more frozen vegetables into our diet though. Angela
still prefers the canned. But after you posted about your Hobo Stew, I
decided to make a big pot of soup with ground beef and veggies. Albertsons
had russet potatoes for 38 cents a pound. Although russets are not what I
would normally put in a soup like this, I have been craving some potatoes.
With the frozen veggies, I can add just a small amount of different things.
Of course I do buy fresh when I can. But I do tend towards a problem when
making soup like this. I want so much stuff in the soup that I wind up with
more soup than I intended to make.

On 2/6/2013 10:17 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I don't have room for an upright. Our garage is very tiny. Too small to
> park a car in, unless perhaps it is a Smart Car. And even those might be
> too wide for the door. The former owners put shelves up on the wall and
> there is enough space underneath for a small freezer. Daughter and I don't
> really even need it for ourselves. I bought it for my husband. He goes
> through ice cream and frozen treats so rapidly that I was having to go to
> the store once or twice a day and that got old in a hurry.

See this is part of what I don't understand about your relationship, but
it isn't my place to question. But I really can't help myself to ask
why he doesn't go out and get his own treats to feed his habit? You of
course don't have to answer.

On 2/6/2013 12:59 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>> about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>> ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>> rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>> refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US
>
It might depend on your deductible and how much the value of the
contents are. Do you have a deductible for your home owners?

On 2/7/2013 11:05 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:46:48 -0600, wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:59:38 -0700, Janet Bostwick >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>>> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>>> penny of the contents.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> a fire in the freezer.......
>> did not know that was possible.....
>
> Yup. Came home and went into the freezer to get something and
> everything in there seemed so dark. It was because of the soot all
> over everything, including the inside of the refrigerator portion. We
> were very lucky that the fire was contained within the refrigerator.
> Janet US
>
You sure were! Scary!

Cheryl wrote:
>
> See this is part of what I don't understand about your relationship,
> but it isn't my place to question. But I really can't help myself to
> ask why he doesn't go out and get his own treats to feed his habit? You of
> course don't have to answer.

He doesn't do too much for himself. And seeing as how I can't work, I do
pretty much all of the household stuff.

Chest Freezer????
That seems like a strange thing to own!

Why do you want to freeze your chest? Is that a way to enlarge your
breasts?

barbie gee wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/2013 10:17 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have room for an upright. Our garage is very tiny. Too
>>> small to park a car in, unless perhaps it is a Smart Car. And even
>>> those might be too wide for the door. The former owners put
>>> shelves up on the wall and there is enough space underneath for a
>>> small freezer. Daughter and I don't really even need it for
>>> ourselves. I bought it for my husband. He goes through ice cream
>>> and frozen treats so rapidly that I was having to go to the store
>>> once or twice a day and that got old in a hurry.
>>
>> See this is part of what I don't understand about your relationship,
>> but it isn't my place to question. But I really can't help myself
>> to ask why he doesn't go out and get his own treats to feed his
>> habit? You of course don't have to answer.
>>
>
> I'm just wondering if he's as big as a house, with all that ice cream
> and frozen treats he's apparently snarfing down...
> going to the store "once or twice a day"? C'mon. REALLY?

What we have in the house is a side by side. It holds really very little.
Getting one box of frozen treats in there is hard enough. I generally don't
even allow room for that stuff since daughter eats it only rarely and me,
never. Granted he likely does eat more than the average bear.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:46:15 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:10:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:44:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to look for a freezer alarm. If they don't cost too
>>>>> much I'll get
>>>>> one. Supposed to alert you when the temp gets too high.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of that. Please post a link when you find it.
>>>
>>> There are a lot in varying designs and prices. I got this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Visual-R...=freezer+alarm
>>>
>>> The main drawback that people complained about is that it is
>>> somewhat quiet. But that's what I wanted because I wouldn't want to
>>> drive the kittehs nuts if it did go off and we weren't home. I go
>>> out into the garage often enough. But now I know that just looking
>>> at the green light on the freezer simply isn't enough.
>>>
>> Thanks for the link.
>
>Sure! I am convinced now that the problem was indeed a power failure.
>
>When we came home the other night I said to Angela that something didn't
>look right about the house. We have lights all along the front of the house
>that come on when it gets dark. But at the corner of the garage, there is
>also one that comes on when activated by motion. It was on. And it stayed
>on. This is not the first time this has happened and to shut it off, you
>have to shut off the switch just inside the garage and then turn it back on.
>It will then reset to the motion activated.
>
>Although this has happened a few times in the past, I never made the
>connection to it being a power failure. But now I am pretty sure that it
>was!

Not going off is a common occurance with those motion detector lamps
as they age, has nothing to do with a power failure, Being outdoors
those fixtures are subject to corrosion... there should be a slide
switch that activates/deactivates the motion detection feature, it's a
good idea to move the switch a few times peridically to remove
corrosion. There is also usually a rotery adjustment that determines
how long the lamp stays lit, its contacts can corrode as well so it
should be moved occasionally. Even the circuit breakers in your house
panel should be each flipped off and on a few times once each year to
remove corrosion (electricians call it exercizing breakers). If a
breaker opens often have an electrician check for an over loaded
circuit, and do not continue to use a breaker that has opened several
times, it has become damaged.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> See this is part of what I don't understand about your relationship,
>> but it isn't my place to question. But I really can't help myself to
>> ask why he doesn't go out and get his own treats to feed his habit? You of
>> course don't have to answer.
>
>He doesn't do too much for himself. And seeing as how I can't work, I do
>pretty much all of the household stuff.

Wouldn't it have been much less trouble for your husband to have a
trained dog to fetch snacks, etc? And once a week have a cleaning
lady: http://alittlebitdirty.com/index.php?page=maids

On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:11:42 -0600, wrote:

>Chest Freezer????
>That seems like a strange thing to own!
>
>Why do you want to freeze your chest? Is that a way to enlarge your
>breasts?

Nope... actually the opposite effect... but it makes her nipples hard.

Le mercredi 6 février 2013 19:19:36 UTC+1, KenK a écrit*:
> Janet Bostwick > wrote in
>
> :
>
>
>
> > On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>"Julie Bove" > wrote in
>
> :
>
> >>
>
> >>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>
> >>> cause?
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I
>
> >>called about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem
>
> >>several weeks ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment
>
> >>yesterday and rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what
>
> >>happens if my Sears refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy
>
> >>another appliance from now.
>
> >
>
> > Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>
> > refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>
> > penny of the contents.
>
> > Janet US
>
> >
>
>
>
> Don't know. Hope I don't have to find out.
>
>
>
> il ne faut jamais recongeler un aliment qui a deja ete congeler Par contre quand un congelateur dégele les viandes faites les cuire si les schets sont pas trop vieux ,cuite la viande se garde au moins 3 jours au frigo ou alors des que votre viande est cuite mettez la dans un pot a sterilisation et la elle se gardera longtemps vous pouvez faire des légumes pareil ou les reduire en soupe et les stériliser si il y en a de trop

>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon



Le mercredi 6 février 2013 19:19:36 UTC+1, KenK a écrit*:
> Janet Bostwick > wrote in
>
> :
>
>
>
> > On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>"Julie Bove" > wrote in
>
> :
>
> >>
>
> >>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>
> >>> cause?
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I
>
> >>called about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem
>
> >>several weeks ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment
>
> >>yesterday and rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what
>
> >>happens if my Sears refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy
>
> >>another appliance from now.
>
> >
>
> > Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>
> > refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>
> > penny of the contents.
>
> > Janet US
>
> >
>
>
>
> Don't know. Hope I don't have to find out.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> What we have in the house is a side by side. It holds really very little.
> Getting one box of frozen treats in there is hard enough.

Julie! You have a side by side fridge/freezer? And "Getting one box of
frozen treats in there is hard enough?" LOL! That would mean that your
freezer is packed, but with what? You don't like or eat anything.

> I generally don't
> even allow room for that stuff since daughter eats it only rarely and me,
> never. Granted he likely does eat more than the average bear.

You should bunk him in the garage with "his" freezer. And he can share with
the rats. mehehhh

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What we have in the house is a side by side. It holds really very
>> little.
>> Getting one box of frozen treats in there is hard enough.
>
> Julie! You have a side by side fridge/freezer? And "Getting one box of
> frozen treats in there is hard enough?" LOL! That would mean that your
> freezer is packed, but with what? You don't like or eat anything.

I don't even know what's in there now. Mostly stuff that I don't eat.
>
>> I generally don't
>> even allow room for that stuff since daughter eats it only rarely and me,
>> never. Granted he likely does eat more than the average bear.
>
> You should bunk him in the garage with "his" freezer. And he can share
> with
> the rats. mehehhh

On 8/02/2013 8:38 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>>> Julie, if it says it's not designed to operate in less than 55 degrees
>>> Farenheit, that's your problem. I know it sounds like a freezer ought to
>>> be able to function in freezing temperatures but perhaps not - the motor,
>>> etc., isn't in the cold box.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>
>> Guess I simply can not operate it in the winter then.
>
> Not knowing myself at all but that sounds like total BS to me. A freezer
> should be connected and controled by an INTERNAL thermometer, not go by
> outside temperature. I know many people with freezers and fridges in their
> garage and I've never heard this nonsense.
>
> In your case, Julie, it's probably those darn rats again...causing trouble.
>
> Gary
>
If you understand how fridges work, then you would be able to comprehend
the situation better. Car airconditioning systems aren't a lot different
in operation though having iceblocks flying out of the vent at you isn't
a desirable outcome for those.
Anyway, the only part of the works with any real connection with the
inside of the freezer are the evaporator coils. The thermostat would be
there as well but it's only sensing internal temps. The rest of the
works are outside the box!

--

Krypsis

"Krypsis" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/02/2013 8:38 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>>>> Julie, if it says it's not designed to operate in less than 55 degrees
>>>> Farenheit, that's your problem. I know it sounds like a freezer ought
>>>> to
>>>> be able to function in freezing temperatures but perhaps not - the
>>>> motor,
>>>> etc., isn't in the cold box.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>
>>> Guess I simply can not operate it in the winter then.
>>
>> Not knowing myself at all but that sounds like total BS to me. A freezer
>> should be connected and controled by an INTERNAL thermometer, not go by
>> outside temperature. I know many people with freezers and fridges in
>> their
>> garage and I've never heard this nonsense.
>>
>> In your case, Julie, it's probably those darn rats again...causing
>> trouble.
>>
>> Gary
>>
> If you understand how fridges work, then you would be able to comprehend
> the situation better. Car airconditioning systems aren't a lot different
> in operation though having iceblocks flying out of the vent at you isn't a
> desirable outcome for those.
> Anyway, the only part of the works with any real connection with the
> inside of the freezer are the evaporator coils. The thermostat would be
> there as well but it's only sensing internal temps. The rest of the works
> are outside the box!

Alarm installed now. Oddly the temp. went down slightly after I put some
food in it but it is still far from full. Was -20 and is now -13. Temp. in
the garage is 45. That's a tad colder than it should be but... Our outside
temps are supposed to be in the 40's and 50's this coming week. So we're
good.

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:58:44 +1100, Krypsis >
wrote:



>>
>> Not knowing myself at all but that sounds like total BS to me. A freezer
>> should be connected and controled by an INTERNAL thermometer, not go by
>> outside temperature. I know many people with freezers and fridges in their
>> garage and I've never heard this nonsense.
>>
>> In your case, Julie, it's probably those darn rats again...causing trouble.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>If you understand how fridges work, then you would be able to comprehend
>the situation better. Car airconditioning systems aren't a lot different
>in operation though having iceblocks flying out of the vent at you isn't
>a desirable outcome for those.
>Anyway, the only part of the works with any real connection with the
>inside of the freezer are the evaporator coils. The thermostat would be
>there as well but it's only sensing internal temps. The rest of the
>works are outside the box!

This is one explanation.
Running a capillary system in low ambients will cause low condensing
pressures, low suction pressure and masses of subcooling and very low
suction superheats, with no warm liquid to boil off any liquid which
enters the suction line.

In short you will wreck the compressor by liquid flood back,
especially when the freezer has any buildup of ice on the evaporator.

The only way systems such as this work at all is the limited amount
of charge that is in them, which tends to trap in the condenser.

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 01:11:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Alarm installed now. Oddly the temp. went down slightly after I put some
> food in it but it is still far from full. Was -20 and is now -13. Temp. in
> the garage is 45.

You're dealing with minus degrees? The temp went up, not down.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 01:11:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Alarm installed now. Oddly the temp. went down slightly after I put some
>> food in it but it is still far from full. Was -20 and is now -13. Temp.
>> in
>> the garage is 45.
>
> You're dealing with minus degrees? The temp went up, not down.
>

Oh right! I said it wrong. Sorry. Still working just fine. Temp. has
been fluctuating a bit between -13 to -15.