On Feb 28, 5:22*pm, jay > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Bryan > wrote:
>
> > A guy at a nudist camp in Oklahoma gave me a Shiner Bock,
>
> Shiner used to be really good but it is now more corporate. *It's owned
> by Gambrinus also owns Bridgeport Brewing in Oregon. *Gambrinus was
> founded by Carlos Alvarez, a Mexican national, and originally served as
> an importer/distributor for Grupo Modelo. *The company headquarters is
> in San Antonio.
>
> Shiner is ok on a hot day if there isn't anything better. It is way
> better than most of what Anheuser-Bush makes. Small brewers get eaten up
> by these big conglomerates much of the time. *Here is a sad story about
> a great Belgian style brew we used to have here. *The daughter is
> bringing it back.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celis
>
> jay


I had a Shiner Bock a few weeks ago and it didn't really strike me as
a bock at all. It was more like a really uninteresting dark beer. Bock
is supposed to be heavy and rich and malty and this stuff was none of
the above. It wasn't terrible, but they probably shouldn't be calling
it bock, either.

On Feb 27, 8:58*am, "graham" > wrote:
> Apparently they are being sued for watering down their beers.
> My question is: How would anyone be able to tell?
> Graham

AB's best product ever were the mini-sized pretzels in the shape of
the AB logo, which they quit making. Damn.

N.

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 1:47:31 PM UTC-6, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Feb 27, 8:58*am, "graham" > wrote:
>
> > Apparently they are being sued for watering down their beers.
>
> > My question is: How would anyone be able to tell?
>
> > Graham
>
>
>
> AB's best product ever were the mini-sized pretzels in the shape of
>
> the AB logo, which they quit making. Damn.
>
My wife liked these-
http://www.popscreen.com/v/66ShH/Dew...ns-wine-cooler
>
> N.

--Bryan

On 3/2/2013 2:47 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Feb 27, 8:58 am, "graham" > wrote:
>> Apparently they are being sued for watering down their beers.
>> My question is: How would anyone be able to tell?
>> Graham
>
> AB's best product ever were the mini-sized pretzels in the shape of
> the AB logo, which they quit making. Damn.
>
> N.
>
Those who like Bud might enjoy the full page ad in today's Washington
Post where Anheuser-Busch touts the "71 million" cans of water they
have donated to the Red Cross. There is a picture of a can marked "Pure
drinking water" and "Anheuser-Busch". Could they not just as well have
sent their normal product?

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 3/3/13 8:17 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>
> Those who like Bud might enjoy the full page ad in today's Washington
> Post where Anheuser-Busch touts the "71 million" cans of water they
> have donated to the Red Cross. There is a picture of a can marked "Pure
> drinking water" and "Anheuser-Busch". Could they not just as well have
> sent their normal product?

I love people who make fun of Anheuser-Busch and then go back to
drinking their beloved Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Alexander
Keith's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Spaten, Hasseröder, Löwenbräu, Skol,
Quilmes, Harbin, Cass, Jupiler and Presidente -- all of which are owned
by Anheuser-Busch Inbev. 8

-- Larry

On 2013-03-03, pltrgyst > wrote:

> I love people who make fun of Anheuser-Busch and then go back to
> drinking their beloved Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Alexander
> Keith's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Spaten, Hasseröder, Löwenbräu, Skol,
> Quilmes, Harbin, Cass, Jupiler and Presidente -- all of which are owned
> by Anheuser-Busch Inbev. 8

Being "owned by" and "the same as" are two completly different things.

The first seven I cannot argue. Hoegaarden is a whole nuther animal.
I bought some sixers last Summer and was in heaven. NOT non-descript
mega swill. Spaten usta be pretty good, but I've not tried it of
late.

There can be no doubt the big Euro breweries have adopted US money
grubbing methods, even if they are still independent. Pilsner Urquell
trashed their ancient tar-lined wood barrels for stainless steel.
Light watery mega swill is gaining ground in German pubs with young
drinkers. Seems only fanatical beer crazy US microbreweries are
resurecting and even extending old world brewing traditions. Granted,
some to ludicrouse extents, but that's Americans. Over the top.
Botton line, only US and Belgian brewers are balls-to-the-wall old
timey beer crazy.

On 3/3/2013 3:33 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 3/3/13 8:17 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> Those who like Bud might enjoy the full page ad in today's Washington
>> Post where Anheuser-Busch touts the "71 million" cans of water they
>> have donated to the Red Cross. There is a picture of a can marked "Pure
>> drinking water" and "Anheuser-Busch". Could they not just as well have
>> sent their normal product?
>
> I love people who make fun of Anheuser-Busch and then go back to
> drinking their beloved Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Alexander
> Keith's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Spaten, Hasseröder, Löwenbräu, Skol,
> Quilmes, Harbin, Cass, Jupiler and Presidente -- all of which are owned
> by Anheuser-Busch Inbev. 8

I can't say that I've tried all of those. Tho' Stella Artois is on a par
with Bud and Corona, Beck's and Lowenbrau are not far from it, IMHO. The
dark varieties of Lowenbrau and Beck's have some flavor. Hoegaarden is a
wheat beer but Blue Moon is cheaper and better.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 03/03/2013 3:33 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 3/3/13 8:17 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> Those who like Bud might enjoy the full page ad in today's Washington
>> Post where Anheuser-Busch touts the "71 million" cans of water they
>> have donated to the Red Cross. There is a picture of a can marked "Pure
>> drinking water" and "Anheuser-Busch". Could they not just as well have
>> sent their normal product?
>
> I love people who make fun of Anheuser-Busch and then go back to
> drinking their beloved Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Alexander
> Keith's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Spaten, Hasseröder, Löwenbräu, Skol,
> Quilmes, Harbin, Cass, Jupiler and Presidente -- all of which are owned
> by Anheuser-Busch Inbev. 8
>


Welcome to the world of "free enterprise", the system where competition
is supposed to increase efficiency and reduce prices. It is the system
touted by the right as "capitalism" . As we see from your example, the
truth is that there isn't that much competition because the big guys are
buying up all the competition and either shitting them down or
pretending to compete against each other.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 03/03/2013 3:33 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
>> On 3/3/13 8:17 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>
>>> Those who like Bud might enjoy the full page ad in today's Washington
>>> Post where Anheuser-Busch touts the "71 million" cans of water they
>>> have donated to the Red Cross. There is a picture of a can marked "Pure
>>> drinking water" and "Anheuser-Busch". Could they not just as well have
>>> sent their normal product?
>>
>> I love people who make fun of Anheuser-Busch and then go back to
>> drinking their beloved Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Brahma, Alexander
>> Keith's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Spaten, Hasseröder, Löwenbräu, Skol,
>> Quilmes, Harbin, Cass, Jupiler and Presidente -- all of which are owned
>> by Anheuser-Busch Inbev. 8
>>
>
>
> Welcome to the world of "free enterprise", the system where competition is
> supposed to increase efficiency and reduce prices. It is the system touted
> by the right as "capitalism" . As we see from your example, the truth is
> that there isn't that much competition because the big guys are buying up
> all the competition and either shitting them down or pretending to compete
> against each other.
>
That's the system in a nutshell - aim for a monopoly whilst maintaining
competition among your suppliers.
Graham