On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:40:53 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> That was my impression, exactly. Not that I've taken a world tour
> of supermarkets that sell wine, but from what I've seen, they have
> nothing on my local liquor stores that take pride in their selection
> and knowledge.

Okay, so you're into cellaring $50 bottles of wine. BTDT, not my
focus. I just want something drinkable with tonight's meal. If I'm
having a party, I could buy $100 Patron for shots at the grocery store
if I wished; but all I really want is Jose Cuevero for margaritas, a
decent gin for martinis and some decent rum for mojitos. There's no
need to make another stop.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.

You're probably asking tea tollers, but why would you bother to ask?
Buy an inexpensive bottle of wine of champagne to cook with. Non
drinkers have taken that whole "wine you would drink" thing way too
far. All it means is *don't* buy "cooking" wine.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:31:30 -0500, Rememberance
> wrote:

> It's Blake's birthday in 2 weeks and we need to remember him.

And you flaming someone with his name on it is SUCH a good way to
honor him, you stinking piece of shit.

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On 3/27/2013 12:19 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Mar 26, 8:41 am, Nancy Young > wrote:

>> It couldn't possibly bother me less, I have no problem going
>> to the liquor store for my alcohol. I'm not arguing that it's how
>> it should be, I don't care how or where people buy their beer, I'm
>> saying it's just no problem for me to go to a store that specifically
>> sells that product. I genuinely don't understand what's the big deal.

> You must live in an uncongested area where it does NOT take ten
> minutes to get to the other side of a six lane divided road. Lucky
> you.

Luck has nothing to do with it. We paid more for a little old house
where we didn't have to deal with divided highways (I do live in the
most populated of the states in the US), and everyone said we were
crazy/stupid/whatever. Now we laugh when people say we are lucky.

If I did have that traffic issue, I'd buy in bulk so I didn't have
to go there very often. It's just me, I really hate traffic and will
drive miles out of my way to avoid it.

nancy

On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
>
> You're probably asking tea tollers,

I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?

S Viemeister wrote:

> >> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
> >> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
> >
> > You're probably asking tea tollers,
>
> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?

Good guess, but I'd bet another way. Since Babbsy is a former schoolteacher,
it might be Spanglish.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:38:02 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
> >> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
> >
> > You're probably asking tea tollers,
>
> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
>
To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
you spell it anyway?

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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
>>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
>>
>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
>
> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've never
> seen that spelling before - is it common in California?

Per dictionary.com it is spelled either teatotaler or teatotaller or
tea-totaler or tea-totaller. I've used the term but had no idea how
(or how many ways) it is spelled.

pavane

pavane wrote:

> Per dictionary.com it is spelled either teatotaler or teatotaller or
> tea-totaler or tea-totaller.

Do you have dyslexia? It's teetotal, teetotaler, etc. It has nothing whatever
to do with tea.

Sqwertz wrote:

> And Andy, too - if he weren't rotting away in his Laz-y-Boy recliner.

Why do you make comments like this, sqwishy? Are you envious of Andy's
laidback lifestyle, or do you harbor an irrational dislike for La-Z-Boy
chairs?

On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
>
> You're probably asking tea tollers, but why would you bother to ask?
> Buy an inexpensive bottle of wine of champagne to cook with. Non
> drinkers have taken that whole "wine you would drink" thing way too
> far. All it means is *don't* buy "cooking" wine.
>
I *didn't* ask at the grocery store but I'm sure they merely stock
whatever is ordered by corporate and don't have a clue. I asked at the
liquor store because they know what they sell. I don't usually cook
with champagne. And I *never* buy "cooking wine".

Jill

On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:38:02 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
>>>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
>>>
>>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
>>
>> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
>> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
>>
> To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
> didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
> you spell it anyway?
>
All one word - teetotaller (I've also seen it with only one 'l') -
"T-totally abstinent".

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:33:59 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 3/27/2013 12:19 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Mar 26, 8:41 am, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>>> It couldn't possibly bother me less, I have no problem going
>>> to the liquor store for my alcohol. I'm not arguing that it's how
>>> it should be, I don't care how or where people buy their beer, I'm
>>> saying it's just no problem for me to go to a store that specifically
>>> sells that product. I genuinely don't understand what's the big deal.
>
>> You must live in an uncongested area where it does NOT take ten
>> minutes to get to the other side of a six lane divided road. Lucky
>> you.
>
>Luck has nothing to do with it. We paid more for a little old house
>where we didn't have to deal with divided highways (I do live in the
>most populated of the states in the US), and everyone said we were
>crazy/stupid/whatever. Now we laugh when people say we are lucky.
>
>If I did have that traffic issue, I'd buy in bulk so I didn't have
>to go there very often. It's just me, I really hate traffic and will
>drive miles out of my way to avoid it.
>
>nancy

Folks who live in heavily populated areas typically have stores nearby
that will deliver... in NYC there are beverage trucks that deliver to
the home, in some hoods they still deliver seltza in the olde tyme
siphon bottles. I live in the sticks but the beverage barn will
deliver beer and soda over a certain amount for a nominal fee, I think
there's a $50 minimum and delivery is $5. The new pharmacy in town
will deliver Rx drugs to people who are unable to get to the store, no
charge. When I was twelve years old my after school job was
delivering Rx drugs for the corner Whalen's Drugs.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:19:24 -0400, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>pavane wrote:
>
>> Per dictionary.com it is spelled either teatotaler or teatotaller or
>> tea-totaler or tea-totaller.
>
>Do you have dyslexia? It's teetotal, teetotaler, etc. It has nothing whatever
>to do with tea.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...0&t=1364418529

On 27/03/2013 5:05 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Folks who live in heavily populated areas typically have stores nearby
> that will deliver... in NYC there are beverage trucks that deliver to
> the home, in some hoods they still deliver seltza in the olde tyme
> siphon bottles. I live in the sticks but the beverage barn will
> deliver beer and soda over a certain amount for a nominal fee, I think
> there's a $50 minimum and delivery is $5. The new pharmacy in town
> will deliver Rx drugs to people who are unable to get to the store, no
> charge. When I was twelve years old my after school job was
> delivering Rx drugs for the corner Whalen's Drugs.
>

When my mother had to give up driving she found a grocery store that
would deliver. It did not work out very well for her. Produce was always
low quality. Whoever was putting together the order just grabbed
whatever she had ordered with no regard to ripeness, bruising etc. Ice
cream and other frozen goods would be pretty well thawed by the time
they arrived.There was a charge ... and tip, My wife and I ended up
going into the city and doing most of her shopping for her.

Our local pharmacies deliver for free. It's funny but it is a rural area
not to far from town. Some of the pizzerias will deliver in town but
either charge substantially more for rural deliveries or just won't do
them. My son's friend lives in about 8 miles from town. There is one
stop light between town and his place but the pizzerias will not
deliver there. Yet, in the nearby cities the pizzerias will deliver to
the far end of the city, which is greater distance and involves dozens
of stoplights.

On 27/03/2013 5:10 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:19:24 -0400, George M. Middius
> > wrote:
>
>> pavane wrote:
>>
>>> Per dictionary.com it is spelled either teatotaler or teatotaller or
>>> tea-totaler or tea-totaller.
>>
>> Do you have dyslexia? It's teetotal, teetotaler, etc. It has nothing whatever
>> to do with tea.
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...0&t=1364418529
>


From that definition, it looks like they should be called teetotalists
rather than teetotalers.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:53:57 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:38:02 -0400, S Viemeister
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
> >>>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
> >>>
> >>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
> >>
> >> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
> >> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
> >>
> > To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
> > didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
> > you spell it anyway?
> >
> All one word - teetotaller (I've also seen it with only one 'l') -
> "T-totally abstinent".

Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.

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On 3/27/2013 5:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
>>>>>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
>>>>
>>>> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
>>>> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
>>>>
>>> To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
>>> didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
>>> you spell it anyway?
>>>
>> All one word - teetotaller (I've also seen it with only one 'l') -
>> "T-totally abstinent".
>
> Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.
>
No, not 'tea' - it's 'tee', emphasizing the first letter of the word
'total', rather than having anything to do with 'tea', the beverage.
Although those who 'took the pledge' and became teetotallers, would
likely be tea-drinkers...

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:12:13 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/27/2013 5:55 PM, sf wrote:
> > > wrote:
> >> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
> >>>>>> Try asking at a grocery store for recommendations on wine
> >>>>>> or champagne for a sauce. You'll get blank looks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
> >>>>
> >>>> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
> >>>> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
> >>>>
> >>> To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
> >>> didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
> >>> you spell it anyway?
> >>>
> >> All one word - teetotaller (I've also seen it with only one 'l') -
> >> "T-totally abstinent".
> >
> > Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.
> >
> No, not 'tea' - it's 'tee', emphasizing the first letter of the word
> 'total', rather than having anything to do with 'tea', the beverage.
> Although those who 'took the pledge' and became teetotallers, would
> likely be tea-drinkers...

I have no idea what you're talking about other than the tea drinker
part. Thanks.

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On 3/27/2013 6:15 PM, sf wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 3/27/2013 5:55 PM, sf wrote:
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.
>>>
>> No, not 'tea' - it's 'tee', emphasizing the first letter of the word
>> 'total', rather than having anything to do with 'tea', the beverage.
>> Although those who 'took the pledge' and became teetotallers, would
>> likely be tea-drinkers...
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about other than the tea drinker
> part. Thanks.
>
It has to do with the temperance movement - this gives some of the history -
<http://www.branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=annemarie-mcallister-on-the-temperance-movement>

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:



>>
>The local liquor store sells all the usual booze along with the less
>expensive wines on one side of the store. Beer has to be sold and rung
>up separately on the other side of the store.
>
>The beer section is the only one that is allowed to be open on Sunday,
>from 1-5, and they only started opening on Sunday for beer sales a
>couple of years ago.
>

Some years ago, we were vacationing in New Jersey. We went to buy
some liquor, but when we got there, it was past the legal selling
time. The store owner "gave" us a bottle though, no charge. Nice of
him. Well, he did charge us $20 for a bottle of ginger ale.

On 3/27/2013 7:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:46:47 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>> The local liquor store sells all the usual booze along with the less
>> expensive wines on one side of the store. Beer has to be sold and rung
>> up separately on the other side of the store.
>>
>> The beer section is the only one that is allowed to be open on Sunday,
>>from 1-5, and they only started opening on Sunday for beer sales a
>> couple of years ago.
>>
>
> Some years ago, we were vacationing in New Jersey. We went to buy
> some liquor, but when we got there, it was past the legal selling
> time. The store owner "gave" us a bottle though, no charge. Nice of
> him. Well, he did charge us $20 for a bottle of ginger ale.
>
ROFL! That's funny!

Jill

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:31:21 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
> >On 3/24/2013 1:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> Cheryl wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Grocery stores here don't sell beer or wine at all.
> >>
> >> Where is "here"? Everywhere I've been in the US grocery stores may
> >> not sell wine but all sold beer.
> >>
> >>
> >Maryland. No beer in grocery stores.
>
> I don't believe the stupidmarkets in Maryland don't sell beer, where
> does one buy a case of Bud, at the hair dresser? The gasolene station
> convenience stores in NY don't sell beer but all the supermarkets do,
> in the town where I live the biggest beer seller is Rite Aid. In NY
> no food market sells wine or liquor but they do sell beer... for wine
> or liquor there are plenty of package stores, none sell beer.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3180608AAKkPL6

RI has the same idiotic rule. No alcohol sales in supermarkets.

But there are liquor stores everywhere so no foul.

On Mar 27, 12:21*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
> > *And Andy, too - if he weren't rotting away in his Laz-y-Boy recliner..
>
> Why do you make comments like this, sqwishy? Are you envious of Andy's
> laidback lifestyle, or do you harbor an irrational dislike for La-Z-Boy
> chairs?

That was a very sick thing for the POS to say as Andy is probably no
longer alive.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:33:38 -0400, T >
wrote:

>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:31:21 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 3/24/2013 1:13 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cheryl wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Grocery stores here don't sell beer or wine at all.
>> >>
>> >> Where is "here"? Everywhere I've been in the US grocery stores may
>> >> not sell wine but all sold beer.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Maryland. No beer in grocery stores.
>>
>> I don't believe the stupidmarkets in Maryland don't sell beer, where
>> does one buy a case of Bud, at the hair dresser? The gasolene station
>> convenience stores in NY don't sell beer but all the supermarkets do,
>> in the town where I live the biggest beer seller is Rite Aid. In NY
>> no food market sells wine or liquor but they do sell beer... for wine
>> or liquor there are plenty of package stores, none sell beer.
>> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3180608AAKkPL6
>
>RI has the same idiotic rule. No alcohol sales in supermarkets.
>
>But there are liquor stores everywhere so no foul.

They don't need to sell alchol in markets... Rhode Island probably has
more gin mills per capita than any other state.

On 3/27/2013 3:47 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:08:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> In some state you can buy a can of cold beer from the ice filled
>> display in the convenience store.
>
> 95% of the convenience stores in Texas have 16 and 24-ounce cans of
> beer on ice even in winter. There's never less than 10 varieties to
> choose from, including the 12% beers and malt beverages (Joose and
> Four Loko).
>
> -sw
>
Even though beer isn't sold in grocery stores here, there are a couple
of 7/11's that I know of that do, and one gas station. But they won't
sell you any on Sunday even though the store itself is open.

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On 3/27/2013 4:14 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:30:02 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> For me it's always been that way since I've only ever lived in MD. I've
>> been to states where they sell beer or wine in the grocery store, but I
>> didn't see much of a variety. Around here there are as many liquor
>> stores as grocery stores, usually in the same shopping center, so it
>> doesn't bother me.
>
> In some states it's very hard to find a liquor store. Or even a store
> that sells beer over 5-6%. It's nothing like California or Louisiana
> where there's a liquor store everywhere.
>
> DC, OTOH, area has the highest per capita alcohol consumption rate of
> any other single territory. It's not hard finding alcohol there
> either. Even better when you have a tax-exempt license.
>
> -sw
>
Definitely not hard to find here at all. That was my point. So why sell
it in the grocery store?

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On 3/27/2013 12:11 PM, George M. Middius wrote:

> Shelley slobbers and worries his bone.
>
>> I don't believe the stupidmarkets in Maryland don't sell beer, where
>> does one buy a case of Bud, at the hair dresser?
>
> Corner delis, mostly. Also state liquor stores.
>
> They don't want you in Maryland, Shells. They enough problems with the drug
> dealers in Baltimore and P.G.
>
>
Prince George's thank you very much. One time when I had to do jury
duty we were warned that the judge couldn't stand it when people would
refer to our county as PG County. Um, ok. Actually, my mom is like
that, too.

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On 3/27/2013 12:10 PM, George M. Middius wrote:

> Cheryl wrote:
>
>>> Where is "here"? Everywhere I've been in the US grocery stores may
>>> not sell wine but all sold beer.
>
>> Maryland. No beer in grocery stores.
>
> Actually, MontCo allows a single store in each chain to sell beer. Other
> counties may differ.
>
Good to know. I work in Montgomery county but I don't normally shop there.

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"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> pavane wrote:
>
>> Per dictionary.com it is spelled either teatotaler or teatotaller or
>> tea-totaler or tea-totaller.
>
> Do you have dyslexia? It's teetotal, teetotaler, etc. It has nothing
> whatever
> to do with tea.

Here are some definitions from the highly dyslexic dictionary.com
under the word "tea-totaler"

Where did the name teetotaler come from? - Yahoo! Answers
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006042005649
teetotaler is a corrupted spelling of tea totaler, meaning that, in
colonial times when liquid beverage options were much more
limited, one either ...

" The Tea-Totaler Program
www.teamuse.com/article_011002.html
Jan 25, 2012 ... The Tea-Totaler Program. by Kate Schultz. I was
surprised by how easy it was to cut out alcohol out of my life.
The hard part for me was saying ...
Urban Dictionary: totaller
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=totaller
This then developed into a saying for a bad thing, and now even
my mum says it & shes a right tea-totaller!!! You stub your toe -
"Whitesnake!!!" You miss the bus ...
Tea-totaler
pinterest.com/hollydavies/tea-totaler/
Interior Designer, Daughter, Sister & Aunt & Fiance who is
currently planning the wedding of my dreams. Holly is using
Pinterest, an online pinboard to collect ..."

Now why don't you learn to reed, you jerk, rather than
closing your i's and assuming what you think you no
is truth. Your response here is pretty dum, isn't it.
Particularly since you could have looked in a simple
dictionary. Rite, Georgie?

pavane

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 27, 12:21 pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > And Andy, too - if he weren't rotting away in his Laz-y-Boy recliner.
>>
>> Why do you make comments like this, sqwishy? Are you envious of Andy's
>> laidback lifestyle, or do you harbor an irrational dislike for La-Z-Boy
>> chairs?
>
> That was a very sick thing for the POS to say as Andy is probably no
> longer alive.

In which case he is doubtless enjoying a thoroughly laid-back lifestyle.

pavane

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:28:20 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> Definitely not hard to find here at all. That was my point. So why sell
> it in the grocery store?

One stop shopping is the point.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:38:48 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/27/2013 6:15 PM, sf wrote:
> > > wrote:
> >> On 3/27/2013 5:55 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.
> >>>
> >> No, not 'tea' - it's 'tee', emphasizing the first letter of the word
> >> 'total', rather than having anything to do with 'tea', the beverage.
> >> Although those who 'took the pledge' and became teetotallers, would
> >> likely be tea-drinkers...
> >
> > I have no idea what you're talking about other than the tea drinker
> > part. Thanks.
> >
> It has to do with the temperance movement - this gives some of the history -
> <http://www.branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=annemarie-mcallister-on-the-temperance-movement>

Aha. That was a bit before my time. Thanks.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:33:38 -0400, T >
wrote:

>
> RI has the same idiotic rule. No alcohol sales in supermarkets.
>
> But there are liquor stores everywhere so no foul.
>
I was surprised by that when we visited Montreal. A very popular
restaurant at the end of the block where our B&B was located has a
BYOB thing going. Fortunately a "state" (if that's what it's called
in Canada) was located directly across the street from where we
stayed, so I bought a bottle of wine there and proceeded to the
restaurant. It was more than stupid, but I played the game.

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On 3/28/2013 1:05 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:33:38 -0400, T >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> RI has the same idiotic rule. No alcohol sales in supermarkets.
>>
>> But there are liquor stores everywhere so no foul.
>>
> I was surprised by that when we visited Montreal. A very popular
> restaurant at the end of the block where our B&B was located has a
> BYOB thing going. Fortunately a "state" (if that's what it's called
> in Canada) was located directly across the street from where we
> stayed, so I bought a bottle of wine there and proceeded to the
> restaurant. It was more than stupid, but I played the game.
>
In some dry counties in Arkansas they have supper clubs where if you buy
a membership (seems like it was about $5 a year) you can buy alcoholic
beverages. I don't understand it since the establishments are still in
a dry county.

Jill

On 3/28/2013 1:05 AM, sf wrote:

> I was surprised by that when we visited Montreal. A very popular
> restaurant at the end of the block where our B&B was located has a
> BYOB thing going. Fortunately a "state" (if that's what it's called
> in Canada) was located directly across the street from where we
> stayed, so I bought a bottle of wine there and proceeded to the
> restaurant. It was more than stupid, but I played the game.

What game?

Plenty of places don't hand out liquor licenses just for the asking,
they limit the number. And when you can get one, it costs the earth.
Cheaper and maybe the only way to let people drink with their dinner
is to get a BYOB permit.

nancy

On 28/03/2013 9:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
> In some dry counties in Arkansas they have supper clubs where if you buy
> a membership (seems like it was about $5 a year) you can buy alcoholic
> beverages. I don't understand it since the establishments are still in
> a dry county.
>

Sometimes I wonder about the motivation behind having dry counties. I
don't know if it is because they don't want anyone (else) drinking, or
if they just want to protect the local bootlegging business. I remember
going on a short vacation with some friends when I was about 17-18. The
drinking age was 21. One of my friends, the driver, was getting some gas
and asked the gas station attendant where we =could find a bootlegger.
It seemed that every second homeowner e in that dry country was a
bootlegging.... and they didn't care that we were underage.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:36:54 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 3/28/2013 1:05 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> I was surprised by that when we visited Montreal. A very popular
>> restaurant at the end of the block where our B&B was located has a
>> BYOB thing going. Fortunately a "state" (if that's what it's called
>> in Canada) was located directly across the street from where we
>> stayed, so I bought a bottle of wine there and proceeded to the
>> restaurant. It was more than stupid, but I played the game.
>
>What game?
>
>Plenty of places don't hand out liquor licenses just for the asking,
>they limit the number. And when you can get one, it costs the earth.
>Cheaper and maybe the only way to let people drink with their dinner
>is to get a BYOB permit.
>
>nancy

Restaurants that allow BYOB is really for those who wish to drink
something they don't stock, and they do charge the patron often a
ridiculous corking fee for that priviledge. But restaurants that
don't serve liquor typically can't make enough profit to stay in
business... the profit from the bar is always more than from the
kitchen

The Publix stores around Sarasota and Bradenton FL have notices up that
they will be closed on Easter Monday.

I didn't notice whether or not they'll be closed on Sunday.

-- Larry

In article >
writes:
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:53:57 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2013 2:22 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:38:02 -0400, S Viemeister
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 3/27/2013 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You're probably asking tea tollers,
>> >>
>> >> I had to read that out loud, before I realised what you meant. I've
>> >> never seen that spelling before - is it common in California?
>> >>
>> > To be perfectly honest, I never know how to spell it and spellcheck
>> > didn't kick it back to me so I figured I wasn't very far off. How do
>> > you spell it anyway?
>> >
>> All one word - teetotaller (I've also seen it with only one 'l') -
>> "T-totally abstinent".
>
>Teatotaller? Huh. I've never heard "total" in it. Thanks.

"Total" is key. It originated before Prohibition. There were
assorted stances on abstinence from alcohol. Some called for
abstaining from spirits, and others for everything. That was
emphasized in slogan as "Total, capital-T Total." That led to
t-totalers or teetotalers.

Didn't know that one until Ken Burns did his Prohibition series.

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