On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:03:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> Students don't have to be in school 7 days of each week, but they can be
> on a schedule that allows schools to be open 7 days a week. A lot of
> people think of schools as a form or day care. If the parents are
> working Sundays they have to make special arrangements for the kids, so
> why not coordinate school hours with the parents' work hours? They can
> make more efficient use of expensive facilities by using them 24/7.
>
> Kids may as well get used to a 24/7. Start them off young.

I'll leave it up to you to figure out the logistics. As it is, they
provide after school care and sometimes Saturday - Sunday activities.
<shrug> Don't forget, it will be *your tax dollars at work*. Still
feeing like they should be open 24-7-365? Not many retired people are
in favor of it or there would be more funding for that kind of thing.


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On 3/2/2014 11:07 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:27:16 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I like
>>> the convenience of long hours seven days a week and wish that my local
>>> grocery store was open 24-7 instead of 6:00 AM-Midnight. I think it's
>>> old fashioned and miserly to close when they're open so many hours
>>> anyway.
>>
>> So you want others to be available all the time to suite you desires.
>
> It's a choice. They are not forced to work that shift.

No, they can go to work elsewhere if it is available, but often they are
required or fired.


>
>> Have you worked the midnight shift much? You want others to though,
>> just for your convenience.
>
> Actually, I HAVE worked in a 24-7-365 service industry. Sounds like
> you haven't and want to everything to fit your ideal. Tell me how you
> fared in that hotel without someone battening down the hatches at
> night, so you can check in late or have an extra pillow sent up.

If you read what I wrote, I understand some people must work those hours
and holidays. Some like the late shifts. I have two working for me
that do and I'm glad to have them. Most don't.


Tell
> me how you managed to take that red-eye flight without someone keeping
> the airport open or driving the airplane?

Some jobs are needed 24 hours, most are optional. Become a nurse or
policeman it is part of the job. Having some salami sliced to order at
3 AM may be convenient, but not usually a life or death situation.

Last time I took the red eye I got stuck at a stopover in Cincinnati
because the airport closed.

I'm not going to take a poll, but most people would probably like having
the weekend off; some do not care. OTOH, I recently renovated my
bathroom. The guy doing the ceramic tiles worked New Years day.
Divorced with nothing going on, he did not care about the holiday.

On 3/2/2014 10:46 AM, sf wrote:

> So basically, you're saying that grown ups are incapable of making
> grown up decisions and need stores closed in order to do that. Fine.
> Let's give all the police, fire fighters, snow plow drivers, airport,
> hospital and hotel workers etc, etc Sunday off too. It's only fair.
>
>
Unions fought long and hard for better working conditions. The six day
and finally the five day work week was a big part of what they did so
we'd nearly all have the common days off. Wage laws address overtime and
often require extra pay for Sunday work. A few people like working
Sunday to get the higher wage.

Along the same line, the Black Friday opening that have been moving up
more and more are now getting backlash for stealing the holiday.

On 3/2/2014 1:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>
I wonder how many jobs
> really are just 9-5, M-F, as a percentage.
>
> nancy

Vast majority. Live near a big city? Just count the cars on the main
road into town on a Sunday and a Monday at about 8 AM.

On 3/2/2014 4:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/2/2014 1:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
> I wonder how many jobs
>> really are just 9-5, M-F, as a percentage.

> Vast majority. Live near a big city? Just count the cars on the main
> road into town on a Sunday and a Monday at about 8 AM.
>
Fair enough. The good news, then, is that there is no reason the
vast majority can't choose to spend a day of their weekend
with family.

nancy

On 3/2/2014 4:44 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/2/2014 4:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 3/2/2014 1:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>> I wonder how many jobs
>>> really are just 9-5, M-F, as a percentage.
>
>> Vast majority. Live near a big city? Just count the cars on the main
>> road into town on a Sunday and a Monday at about 8 AM.
>>
> Fair enough. The good news, then, is that there is no reason the
> vast majority can't choose to spend a day of their weekend
> with family.
>
> nancy

They seem to be choosing shopping over family.
the stores are pretty busy on Sunday.

On 2014-03-02 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> They seem to be choosing shopping over family.
> the stores are pretty busy on Sunday.


That reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend many years ago.
He was a salesman at a good menswear store on a local mall in the days
before Sunday shopping. The mall tried an experiment with Saturday night
hours, staying open until 10 pm. He was upset. He was on commission. His
view of Saturday night shoppers.... they don't buy, they don't have
money, they don't have lives.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:40:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Having some salami sliced to order at
> 3 AM may be convenient, but not usually a life or death situation.

Having salami sliced in a deli at 3AM might be considered grocery
shopping where you live, but it's not here. You're being ridiculous
and I'm done it.


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On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:09:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 3/2/2014 10:46 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > So basically, you're saying that grown ups are incapable of making
> > grown up decisions and need stores closed in order to do that. Fine.
> > Let's give all the police, fire fighters, snow plow drivers, airport,
> > hospital and hotel workers etc, etc Sunday off too. It's only fair.
> >
> >
> Unions fought long and hard for better working conditions. The six day
> and finally the five day work week was a big part of what they did so
> we'd nearly all have the common days off.

You clearly don't know anything about the union movement. Unions were
not fighting for common days off, they fought to limit workdays to 8
and a 40 hour maximum work week.


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On 2014-03-02 7:23 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:09:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 3/2/2014 10:46 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> So basically, you're saying that grown ups are incapable of making
>>> grown up decisions and need stores closed in order to do that. Fine.
>>> Let's give all the police, fire fighters, snow plow drivers, airport,
>>> hospital and hotel workers etc, etc Sunday off too. It's only fair.
>>>
>>>
>> Unions fought long and hard for better working conditions. The six day
>> and finally the five day work week was a big part of what they did so
>> we'd nearly all have the common days off.
>
> You clearly don't know anything about the union movement. Unions were
> not fighting for common days off, they fought to limit workdays to 8
> and a 40 hour maximum work week.

Yes, so that their membership could have the weekend off. Blue laws
kept things closed on Sunday.
>

On 3/2/2014 7:23 PM, sf wrote:

>>>
>> Unions fought long and hard for better working conditions. The six day
>> and finally the five day work week was a big part of what they did so
>> we'd nearly all have the common days off.
>
> You clearly don't know anything about the union movement. Unions were
> not fighting for common days off, they fought to limit workdays to 8
> and a 40 hour maximum work week.
>
>
Seems they pretty much made it Saturday and Sunday though. I wonder why
they did not pick Tuesday and Thursday.

On 3/2/2014 7:19 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:40:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Having some salami sliced to order at
>> 3 AM may be convenient, but not usually a life or death situation.
>
> Having salami sliced in a deli at 3AM might be considered grocery
> shopping where you live, but it's not here. You're being ridiculous
> and I'm done it.
>
>

Your stores don't sell salami? Ours do but but they close at 10 PM.
You're the one that wants to be able to shop at any hour so the stores
should have it available at any time.

On 2014-03-02 21:04, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Having salami sliced in a deli at 3AM might be considered grocery
>> shopping where you live, but it's not here. You're being ridiculous
>> and I'm done it.
>>
>>
>
> Your stores don't sell salami? Ours do but but they close at 10 PM.
> You're the one that wants to be able to shop at any hour so the stores
> should have it available at any time.
I like salami, but I never needed it at 3 am.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:04:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 3/2/2014 7:19 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:40:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> Having some salami sliced to order at
> >> 3 AM may be convenient, but not usually a life or death situation.
> >
> > Having salami sliced in a deli at 3AM might be considered grocery
> > shopping where you live, but it's not here. You're being ridiculous
> > and I'm done it.
> >
> >
>
> Your stores don't sell salami? Ours do but but they close at 10 PM.
> You're the one that wants to be able to shop at any hour so the stores
> should have it available at any time.

You're a small town boy with dumb ideas.


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On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 18:37:37 -0800, sf > wrote:



>>
>> Your stores don't sell salami? Ours do but but they close at 10 PM.
>> You're the one that wants to be able to shop at any hour so the stores
>> should have it available at any time.
>
>You're a small town boy with dumb ideas.

I did live in Philadelphia for 35 years so I know a bit about big
cities too. I'm sorry that you resent people having a common day off.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:49:31 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>>
>sf might like to be able to shop after midnight, but other than people
>who work the graveyard shift, who does that?
>
>Jill

When the kids were little I used to go shopping late in the evening,
maybe 9 or 10, to give my wife a break for some quiet time once the
kids were in bed. A couple of stores were open 24 hours but did very
little business and had limited services. It was one cashier and a
few stockboys.

"Ophelia" > wrote in
:

>> Sunday is the highest $$ sales day for supermarkets so they
>> won't close. If they all closed, those sales would be done in
>> six days and everyone could have a day off. Used to be
>> Sunday was a family day to visit relatives or dinner at
>> grandma's. Now it is a shopping day.
>
> All the same here Has been for a long time.

Since I retired, Sunday is just another day of the week.

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