On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>> taking a
>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>> didn't even
>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>> (snippage)
>>
>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>
>>
> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>
>
And here I just thought she had Munchausens...

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>>> taking a
>>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>>> didn't even
>>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>>
>>>
>> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
>> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>>
>>
> And here I just thought she had Munchausens...

Do you really think that is funny? You know what Jill, you used to be
really nice.
Ugh you disgust me.
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"Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>>>> taking a
>>>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>>>> didn't even
>>>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>>>> (snippage)
>>>>
>>>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>>>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
>>> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>>>
>>>
>> And here I just thought she had Munchausens...
>
> Do you really think that is funny? You know what Jill, you used to be
> really nice.
> Ugh you disgust me.

It isn't funny and she doesn't even know what she is talking about. A
person who has that goes to the Dr. and/or the hospital quite a bit. Aside
from just general checkup things, I've only been there three times in the
past several years. All were related to female things. I won't give the
details. But she's about my age so the very same could be happening to her
soon.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>>>>> taking a
>>>>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>>>>> didn't even
>>>>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>>>>> (snippage)
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>>>>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
>>>> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And here I just thought she had Munchausens...
>>
>> Do you really think that is funny? You know what Jill, you used to be
>> really nice.
>> Ugh you disgust me.
>
> It isn't funny and she doesn't even know what she is talking about. A
> person who has that goes to the Dr. and/or the hospital quite a bit.
> Aside from just general checkup things, I've only been there three times
> in the past several years. All were related to female things. I won't
> give the details. But she's about my age so the very same could be
> happening to her soon.

She used to be kind and fair and witty and I used to admire her

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On 4/11/2013 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>>>> taking a
>>>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>>>> didn't even
>>>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>>>> (snippage)
>>>>
>>>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>>>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
>>> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>>>
>>>
>> And here I just thought she had Munchausens...
>
> Do you really think that is funny? You know what Jill, you used to be
> really nice.
> Ugh you disgust me.

Sorry, Ophelia. I don't think it's funny but I think she has some
serious mental issues. I don't have to explain it again.

Jill

On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote in news:51654bf7$0
> :
>
>> On 4/10/2013 5:24 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>> We have a saying at the Association: If you can remember that
>>> you're forgetting, it isn't Alzheimer's...
>>
>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>> store.

> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!

I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.

nancy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 4/11/2013 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 4/11/2013 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/04/2013 6:20 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'm safe then! My worst memory loss came about when I was
>>>>>> taking a
>>>>>> statin (cholesterol med). I refuse to take those ever again. I
>>>>>> didn't even
>>>>>> know that I was forgetting things.
>>>>> (snippage)
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't about *you*, Julie. Here you go hijacking a thread to make
>>>>> it all about you. (sigh)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not so fast there Jill. Alzheimers is a form of mental deterioration.
>>>> This is one case where it may indeed be about her.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And here I just thought she had Munchausens...
>>
>> Do you really think that is funny? You know what Jill, you used to be
>> really nice.
>> Ugh you disgust me.
>
> Sorry, Ophelia. I don't think it's funny but I think she has some serious
> mental issues. I don't have to explain it again.

Ok, let us accept you *really* believe that. You have made your diagnosis.
Do you often make fun of people you honestly believe are sick???

As I have said elsewhere, you used to be kind and sympathetic. You have
changed.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>> Nancy Young > wrote in news:51654bf7$0
>> :
>>
>>> On 4/10/2013 5:24 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have a saying at the Association: If you can remember that
>>>> you're forgetting, it isn't Alzheimer's...
>>>
>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>> store.
>
>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>
> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.

It is such a frightening thing. I am reading all I can about it. It is
good to have knowledge. I have so much admiration for Alan and bob
who live with it day to day. There was a question on another group; 'which
would you prefer to go first, mind or body' I said mind, but when you
realise how it affects your family ...
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On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:

>>>
>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>> store.
>
>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>
> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>
>


We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
don't know where I am going."

It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.

gloria p

"gloria p" > wrote in message
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> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>> store.
>>
>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>
>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>
>>
>
>
> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
> don't know where I am going."
>
> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.

Oh the poor lamb

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gloria p wrote:
> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>> store.
>>
>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>
>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>
>>
>
>
> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
> don't know where I am going."
>
> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.
>
> gloria p

ouch

this sort of thing isn't always cancer or alzheimers -- could also be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_global_amnesia

I know someone who's had two episodes ... pretty bizarre

On 4/11/2013 4:38 PM, gloria p wrote:
> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.

> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
> don't know where I am going."
>
> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.

Yikes! Imagine that. Either way, it must be so frightening to
the person who knows This is not good.

nancy

"gloria p" > wrote in message
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> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>> store.
>>
>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>
>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>
>>
>
>
> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
> don't know where I am going."
>
> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.

That happened to the husband of a friend of a friend. The not not
remembering anything. He was driving home from work and went totally the
wrong way, winding up somewhere in South Seattle and not knowing why he was
there. The police eventually found him. He had been sitting there in his
car for the better part of the day. He had also been having crushing
headaches. He too had a brain tumor. But in his case, he is still living.
He's about 55 now.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "gloria p" > wrote in message
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>> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>>> store.
>>>
>>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>>
>>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
>> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
>> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
>> don't know where I am going."
>>
>> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.
>
> That happened to the husband of a friend of a friend. The not not
> remembering anything. He was driving home from work and went totally the
> wrong way, winding up somewhere in South Seattle and not knowing why he
> was there. The police eventually found him. He had been sitting there in
> his car for the better part of the day. He had also been having crushing
> headaches. He too had a brain tumor. But in his case, he is still
> living. He's about 55 now.

One of the lucky ones. Gloria and Julie ... do you know if they'd had any
indications before the major attack?

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"Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>> "gloria p" > wrote in message
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>>> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>>>
>>>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>>>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>>>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
>>> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
>>> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and I
>>> don't know where I am going."
>>>
>>> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.
>>
>> That happened to the husband of a friend of a friend. The not not
>> remembering anything. He was driving home from work and went totally the
>> wrong way, winding up somewhere in South Seattle and not knowing why he
>> was there. The police eventually found him. He had been sitting there
>> in his car for the better part of the day. He had also been having
>> crushing headaches. He too had a brain tumor. But in his case, he is
>> still living. He's about 55 now.
>
> One of the lucky ones. Gloria and Julie ... do you know if they'd had any
> indications before the major attack?

Alan did have headaches for a while prior. And headaches weren't normal for
him.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "gloria p" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
>>>>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch! THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>>>>>
>>>>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
>>>>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
>>>>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
>>>> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. He stopped at a
>>>> house and told the woman who answered the door: "My name is xxxxx and
>>>> I don't know where I am going."
>>>>
>>>> It was a brain tumor. He lived less than 6 months.
>>>
>>> That happened to the husband of a friend of a friend. The not not
>>> remembering anything. He was driving home from work and went totally
>>> the wrong way, winding up somewhere in South Seattle and not knowing why
>>> he was there. The police eventually found him. He had been sitting
>>> there in his car for the better part of the day. He had also been
>>> having crushing headaches. He too had a brain tumor. But in his case,
>>> he is still living. He's about 55 now.
>>
>> One of the lucky ones. Gloria and Julie ... do you know if they'd had
>> any indications before the major attack?
>
> Alan did have headaches for a while prior. And headaches weren't normal
> for him.

Noted! I guess someone like me who doesn't get headaches should be wary.

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On Apr 12, 2:11*am, "Ophelia" ku> wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
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>
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> > "gloria p" > wrote in message
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> >> On 4/11/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> >>> On 4/11/2013 5:15 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
> >>>>> I think you're okay if you forget what you needed at the
> >>>>> store, but in trouble if you forget how to get to the
> >>>>> store.
>
> >>>> Ouch! *THAT line is going into my stock speech!
>
> >>> I read someone's account of developing early onset Alzheimers and
> >>> that was my takeaway ... she was driving to her usual supermarket
> >>> and suddenly didn't know the way ... it really stuck with me.
>
> >> We had a friend in his late 40s who was driving home from a meeting
> >> ~30 miles away and suddenly didn't remember anything. *He stopped at a
> >> house and told the woman who answered the door: *"My name is xxxxx and I
> >> don't know where I am going."
>
> >> It was a brain tumor. *He lived less than 6 months.
>
> > That happened to the husband of a friend of a friend. *The not not
> > remembering anything. *He was driving home from work and went totally the
> > wrong way, winding up somewhere in South Seattle and not knowing why he
> > was there. *The police eventually found him. *He had been sitting there in
> > his car for the better part of the day. *He had also been having crushing
> > headaches. *He too had a brain tumor. *But in his case, he is still
> > living. He's about 55 now.
>
> One of the lucky ones. *Gloria and Julie ... do you know if they'd had any
> indications before the major attack?
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I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.

"merryb" > wrote in message
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> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.

Oh dear I note the headaches are in evidence here too? Not something to
be ignored eh?


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"Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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> "merryb" > wrote in message
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>
>> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
>> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
>> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.
>
> Oh dear I note the headaches are in evidence here too? Not something
> to be ignored eh?

I think it is the severity of the headaches and perhaps the rapid onset that
should be a worry. I did have a severe headache some years ago. The cause
was never found. I have had migraines and more recently I had headaches
that were for sure from stress and lack of sleep. They were annoying but I
wasn't worried because I was pretty sure that I knew the cause.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "merryb" > wrote in message
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>>
>>> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
>>> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
>>> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.
>>
>> Oh dear I note the headaches are in evidence here too? Not something
>> to be ignored eh?
>
> I think it is the severity of the headaches and perhaps the rapid onset
> that should be a worry. I did have a severe headache some years ago. The
> cause was never found. I have had migraines and more recently I had
> headaches that were for sure from stress and lack of sleep. They were
> annoying but I wasn't worried because I was pretty sure that I knew the
> cause.

Well, I am sure you are right.

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On 4/12/2013 12:55 PM, merryb wrote:

> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.

One of my friends was making pancakes, and her 12 yr old son came
downstairs and found her collapsed on the kitchen floor. He called 911,
they took her to the emergency room, and she had an aneurism.
Fortunately, she survived.

One of my clients had a hysterectomy and she kept telling the nurses
that she had a headache. The doctor examined her and ordered medication
for her headache. She died of an aneurism the next morning, while still
in the hospital. She had 3 children under the age of 8.

Becca

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
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> On 4/12/2013 12:55 PM, merryb wrote:
>
>> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
>> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
>> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.
>
> One of my friends was making pancakes, and her 12 yr old son came
> downstairs and found her collapsed on the kitchen floor. He called 911,
> they took her to the emergency room, and she had an aneurism. Fortunately,
> she survived.
>
> One of my clients had a hysterectomy and she kept telling the nurses that
> she had a headache. The doctor examined her and ordered medication for her
> headache. She died of an aneurism the next morning, while still in the
> hospital. She had 3 children under the age of 8.

OH! So, just a matter of luck if it is recognised then

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On Apr 12, 2:39*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Ophelia" ku> wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > "merryb" > wrote in message
> ....
>
> >> I worked for a wonderful gal a few years ago, and she would get really
> >> bad headaches on occasion. She dropped dead from a brain anurism (sp?)
> >> while cooking Thanksgiving dinner- probably never knew what hit her.
>
> > Oh dear *I note the headaches are in evidence here too? *Not something
> > to be ignored eh?
>
> I think it is the severity of the headaches and perhaps the rapid onset that
> should be a worry. *I did have a severe headache some years ago. *The cause
> was never found. *I have had migraines and more recently I had headaches
> that were for sure from stress and lack of sleep. *They were annoying but I
> wasn't worried because I was pretty sure that I knew the cause.

You are right- I think they hit pretty fast and hard.