On 20/04/2013 12:12 PM, sf wrote:

>
> You'd develop an understanding about why they do that (their paper
> napkins are nothing like ours) and, for me at least, it became clear
> why newly arrived Chinese are so frugal when handing out napkins at
> the local Chinese bakery/restaurant! We call it "cheap", but they are
> actually being what's considered normal over there. Paper products
> are not used wastefully.

Some people here consider it being green. My wife thinks I am cheap
about the electricity because I complain about her leaving lights on all
the time. She will defend herself by saying she had gone into the room
for something, and then I point out that she had been in for a minute or
two more than an hour earlier. She will leave several lights on in the
living room....mood light <?> when he are upstairs watching television.
She also leaves on the main kitchen light and the two lights over the
windows. That's three lights in a room no one is in. The ironic thing
is that. being a bleeding heart liberal, she was a big supporter of the
Kyoto Agreement.




What really surprised me was unless you're
> in some touristy area restaurant with American style toilets, you have
> to bring your own toilet paper with you to the bathroom (which for me,
> was a small package of Kleenex).


Kleenex? In a toilet? That's a good way to clog the pipes.
..
>

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:16:59 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:10:47 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 4/20/2013 11:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/2013 11:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> At first, I thought the half sheet was good but like some others here,
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> I need a bit more and find it annoying accidently tearing off only a
>>>>>> half
>>>>>> sheet. Now I just buy the whole sheet rolls and tear one if half if I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> need all but at least I start with a whole one.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Easy enough to roll out enough to avoid that first perforation/tear
>>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> Also, tearing paper towels aside from the perforations is quite
>>>> unsatisfying, you wind up with an uneven raggedy thing even when
>>>> you attempt to make a smaller piece.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>>
>>>anybody here ever see a "Clean Cut" touchless paper towel dispenser?:
>>>Dispense and Cut to Any Length
>>>Regardless of perforation, you can decide how long or how short of a piece
>>>you need.
>>
>> Most public rest rooms have such dispensors, typically motion
>> operated... the paper unrolls in short spurts for as long as you hold
>> your hand under the dispensor.
>
>the only ones I have ever seen give you a predetermined length of towel each
>time - not a "cut to desired length".


Are you that dense... you're supposed to remove your hand when the
towel reaches your desired length. DUH

And you can buy rolls of paper towel that are not perforated and use
them in one of those deli paper dispensors.
http://www.alliedkenco.com/451.aspx

Use yer switchblade you pointy shoed, fence climbing, dumb ass Rican!
LOL

On Apr 20, 6:02*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:36:47 -1000, dsi1
> > > wrote:
>
> >> My mother-in-law used to tear paper napkins in half and stack them
> >> neatly. We thought it had something to do with her dementia but my wife
> >> has seen other old ladies doing the same thing. Evidently, it's
> >> something old Asian women do - like eating Snickers with a knife and
> >> fork.
>
> > Not being snide (straight forward question)... have you ever been
> > "over there" and experienced what it's like?
>
> I know people who tear dryer sheets in pieces and use just one tiny piece at
> a time, and reusing that piece numerous times to boot. *And then they make
> snide remarks about people who dare to use a whole one and then throw it
> out! These are not people who grew up in another country.
>
> I know some people who reuse gift wrap and greeting cards. *And my parents?
> They saved every bow on every present they were ever given. *Stored them and
> reused them. *I was like... *Wha? *You can get a whole bag of bows for 10
> cents, marked down after Christmas. *And if you're lucky, you might even
> find some in pastel colors! *This sort of thing made no sense to me
> whatever. *Now I was once given a large TV as a gift and they wrapped it in
> this hideous vinyl wallpaper. *We did save that stuff for many years. *Igt
> was indestructible and worked great for wrapping large things. *We'd be
> like... *Who has the wallpaper? *I need it! *And I might save an extra fancy
> or expensive looking bow. *But not the cheap ones. *Then someone in our
> family made the rule that no bows can be used on presents any more. *Less to
> deal with. *And I got to where I mostly don't even wrap stuff. *I try to put
> gifts in reusable things. *Like a shopping bag, fancy storage box, basket,
> etc. *Failing that I'll use a gift bag. *I can get those for $1.

Reusing gift wrap and bows is " waste not, want not," in addition to
not adding to the nation's trash footprint. It's indicative of a
generation or three that thinks, "So what if it breaks, I can always
get another one." The point should be made, "Don't break it in the
first place." It's a sad comment on our expectations.

N.

On 20/04/2013 12:13 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
> Roy wrote:
>
>> Why don't you tear those half-towels in two as well and really save?
>> Ahahaha
>
> What's the joke?
>
>


If I tear off a piece to dry my specs it is probably even smaller than
that. I think a piece about 2" square is enough to do the job. Then
there is almost a whole sheet left.

On 4/20/2013 1:11 PM, Pico Rico wrote:

> I have never seen that. I have always seen single use paper towels at the
> handwashing stations in restaurant kitchens. I have never seen anyone wipe
> their hands in their apron. I hope I never eat where you do.

Where I live, the Health Department says restaurant employees are not
allowed to wear their aprons in the bathroom. I hope they dry their
hands on a towel.

Becca

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:16:59 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:10:47 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>>> On 4/20/2013 11:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 11:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> At first, I thought the half sheet was good but like some others
>>>>>>> here,
>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>> I need a bit more and find it annoying accidently tearing off only a
>>>>>>> half
>>>>>>> sheet. Now I just buy the whole sheet rolls and tear one if half if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> need all but at least I start with a whole one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Easy enough to roll out enough to avoid that first perforation/tear
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, tearing paper towels aside from the perforations is quite
>>>>> unsatisfying, you wind up with an uneven raggedy thing even when
>>>>> you attempt to make a smaller piece.
>>>>>
>>>>> nancy
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>anybody here ever see a "Clean Cut" touchless paper towel dispenser?:
>>>>Dispense and Cut to Any Length
>>>>Regardless of perforation, you can decide how long or how short of a
>>>>piece
>>>>you need.
>>>
>>> Most public rest rooms have such dispensors, typically motion
>>> operated... the paper unrolls in short spurts for as long as you hold
>>> your hand under the dispensor.
>>
>>the only ones I have ever seen give you a predetermined length of towel
>>each
>>time - not a "cut to desired length".
>
>
> Are you that dense... you're supposed to remove your hand when the
> towel reaches your desired length. DUH


I have you pegged now. You have never been in a restaurant kitchen. You
cannot say the things you have said if you had.

On 4/20/2013 1:08 PM, Kalmia wrote:

> So do the Vivas. I have been known to let some go thru the wash (
> too rushed to check pockets ) and the darn things come out very soft
> and yet no tears. They can be reused for a quick counter wipe.
>
> Saving trees........


That is excellent; reduce, reuse, recycle. My nitrile gloves can be
washed and dried over and over, and they slip on just fine, they never
stick when you wear them.

Becca

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:12:56 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> Some people here consider it being green. My wife thinks I am cheap
> about the electricity because I complain about her leaving lights on all
> the time. She will defend herself by saying she had gone into the room
> for something, and then I point out that she had been in for a minute or
> two more than an hour earlier. She will leave several lights on in the
> living room....mood light <?> when he are upstairs watching television.
> She also leaves on the main kitchen light and the two lights over the
> windows. That's three lights in a room no one is in.

LOL! You sound just like my husband. He's always complaining about
how I leave the ceiling lights on in the kitchen after I leave
(sheepish look - "guilty as charged, sir"). However, I have lights on
timers in the living room, because I want the house to always look
like someone is home... whether we are or not.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:23:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 4/20/2013 2:29 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:17:32 -0400, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/20/2013 12:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:06:21 -0400, Nancy Young
> >>> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Also, tearing paper towels aside from the perforations is quite
> >>>> unsatisfying, you wind up with an uneven raggedy thing even when
> >>>> you attempt to make a smaller piece.
> >>
> >>> The Bounty half sheets tear neatly on the perforations every time.
> >>
> >> Right, ditto the Brawny or probably most brands, but if you try
> >> to tear them in half at any place *other than* the perforations, you
> >> get a jagged bigger half and a little useless piece.
> >>
> > In that case, you two are tearing the paper towel in the wrong
> > direction. Tear the direction it comes off the roll, not in the
> > direction the perforations go.
> >
> We're talking about tearing a whole sheet in half after the whole sheet
> is *off* the roll. Comes out jagged.
>
That's what I'm talking about too. Tear it in the direction it
unrolls, not the direction the perforations go.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 4/20/2013 3:50 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

> Charlene, at work, did all the laundry and she would use softener sheets
> over and over. She would get a new one each time, save the old one for
> the next load, along with a new softener sheet added, and it would
> continue.

She could have saved even more just not buying them to start with.

>I kept my nose out of it, that was her territory. Charlene was
> diagnosed with lymphoma and she died 3 months later, at the age of 74.
> Excellent employee who never took a day off.

Geez, that was fast. I imagine she wasn't easy to replace.

> As far as wrapping gifts, I use gift bags, it is so much easier, but I
> do not throw those away, either.

Last December I happened to notice those reusable shopping bags
at the supermarket that had winter/holiday designs. Who couldn't
use more shopping bags? They were pretty. I used them to give
my family gifts.

nancy

On 20/04/2013 5:04 PM, sf wrote:

>
>> Some people here consider it being green. My wife thinks I am cheap
>> about the electricity because I complain about her leaving lights on all
>> the time. She will defend herself by saying she had gone into the room
>> for something, and then I point out that she had been in for a minute or
>> two more than an hour earlier. She will leave several lights on in the
>> living room....mood light <?> when he are upstairs watching television.
>> She also leaves on the main kitchen light and the two lights over the
>> windows. That's three lights in a room no one is in.
>
> LOL! You sound just like my husband. He's always complaining about
> how I leave the ceiling lights on in the kitchen after I leave
> (sheepish look - "guilty as charged, sir"). However, I have lights on
> timers in the living room, because I want the house to always look
> like someone is home... whether we are or not.

Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.

The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
rather than turning up the heat. I was opposed to Kyoto. She OTOH, runs
back and forth in the car, cranks up heat, cranks up AC, leaves radio
and multiple lights on in empty rooms, and then tries to lecture me
about the need for Kyoto.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
> house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
> the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
> and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.
>
> The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
> seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
> drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
> thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
> rather than turning up the heat. I was opposed to Kyoto. She OTOH, runs
> back and forth in the car, cranks up heat, cranks up AC, leaves radio
> and multiple lights on in empty rooms, and then tries to lecture me
> about the need for Kyoto.
>
I think you and my husband would make great housemates!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 20/04/2013 7:34 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
>> house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
>> the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
>> and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.
>>
>> The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
>> seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
>> drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
>> thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
>> rather than turning up the heat. I was opposed to Kyoto. She OTOH, runs
>> back and forth in the car, cranks up heat, cranks up AC, leaves radio
>> and multiple lights on in empty rooms, and then tries to lecture me
>> about the need for Kyoto.
>>
> I think you and my husband would make great housemates!
>
Does he have nice boobs?

;-)

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:36:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 20/04/2013 7:34 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
> >> house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
> >> the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
> >> and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.
> >>
> >> The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
> >> seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
> >> drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
> >> thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
> >> rather than turning up the heat. I was opposed to Kyoto. She OTOH, runs
> >> back and forth in the car, cranks up heat, cranks up AC, leaves radio
> >> and multiple lights on in empty rooms, and then tries to lecture me
> >> about the need for Kyoto.
> >>
> > I think you and my husband would make great housemates!
> >
> Does he have nice boobs?
>

He doesn't have manboobs and I think he's got a very nice looking ass.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Apr 20, 10:05*am, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>
> In my house paper towels are, at best, for a quick small spill cleanup.
> * That's why the half sheets work for me. *For wiping down countertops,
> appliances or minor splatters on the stovetop I use disinfectant wipes
> that pop up in single (small) sheets. *(Store brand works as well as
> Lysol or those others.)
>
> Jill
>
>
Use a spray bottle filled with half non-sudsy ammonia and half water
to clean up splatters and wiping down counters. Ammonia is a
_great_ grease cutter and I'll use a paper towel that I've previously
dried my hands on to clean up those little messes. Paper towel gets
double duty instead of one use. Those previously used paper towels
are also good to wipe up minor spills and drips off the floor, too.

On 4/20/2013 12:48 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-04-20, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>> Look what I found on google:
>>
>> http://www.all-tea-towels.co.uk/teat...tory-g-39.html
>
> Leave it to the web to have a "tea towel" website. Love it!
>
> Thanks fer filling that lifelong hole in my life. I can go to my
> grave, content.
>
> BTW, we had a couple hand embroidered tea towels. Prabably my
> grandmother's.
>
> nb
>
I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
hesitant to use them. Is that silly?

Jill

On Apr 20, 11:17*am, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>
> Walgreens has their version of those select-a-size paper towels along
> with those wipes. *Just as good, if not better, than Bounty brand.
> Costs less.
>
> Jill
>
>
Unless Walgreen's has changed their paper towels dramatically within
the last two years I found them to be the sorriest paper towels on the
planet. Right up there with the brand 'Marcal,' in fact I think they
are both made by the same company, sorry, sorry, sorry product.
Surprisingly Target's own brand is comparable to Bounty, could even be
made by Bounty and a very good bargain. One of these days when I'm
needing paper towels I'm going to give Aldi's brand a shot.

On 4/20/2013 3:50 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> As far as wrapping gifts, I use gift bags, it is so much easier, but I
> do not throw those away, either.
>
> Becca

When we went to the vegetable stand last weekend they gave us our
squash, yellow onion and new potatoes in a little paper bag with a
twisted paper handle. The vegetables looked like they came in a bag
from the gift wrap section

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
>I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>hesitant to use them. Is that silly?

They definitely are replacable, just not with the same exact tea
towels. lol I would use them for something, if they're thet fancy
they'd make a nice doily under some lamp or candy dish... at least
you'll see them... what's the point of even having them if locked away
out of sight year after year.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:51:58 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?

NO. They were your grandmother's. Leave it up to your nieces and
nephews to disrespect them after your death.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 19/04/2013 9:05 AM, notbob wrote:
>> Initially, I didn't give a rats ass, but I've been using half sheet
>> paper towels (Bounty) for about a month, now. Ran across an old roll
>> of whole sheet (only) towels I had left over. I find myself tearing
>> them in half.
>>
>> nb
>>
>
> No no nb. YOu are supposed to rip off the entire sheet and throw it
> away. Then you buy more. ;-)
> When I wash the dishes I usually do my eyeglasses first. I may tear off
> a corner of a paper towel to dry them ... or .... use the the free end
> without tearing it off. In a couple minutes the paper towel will be dry
> and can be used for something else. It's not like I need them to be
> food grade.
>
Unless I am wiping the floor or something, I also use cloth wipes
or diapers. Diapers are obviously absorbent, but they are not
most scenic.

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:



>Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
>house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
>the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
>and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.

I have light on timers in the living room, family room, and outside
over the family room slider. Other lights have motion sensors.

OTOH, we have a small under counter fluorescent light in the kitchen.
It has been on the past 32 years we've lived here. Only time it goes
off is when the bulb or fixture burns out and is then replaced. Day
and night it is on.

>
>The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
>seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
>drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
>thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
>rather than turning up the heat.

I don't waste energy, but I use it as we see fit. My car is mid sized
with a turbo engine (average 28 - 30 mpg and 0-60 in 5.8 seconds) the
heat is 68 to 70 and the AC goes on at any hint of discomfort.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:08:38 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:



>
>but burying paper products in land fills is a form of carbon sequestration,
>which might be a good thing.
>

They can also be burned in a trash to energy plant too. Saves other
fuels from being burned.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:36:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:08:38 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> >but burying paper products in land fills is a form of carbon sequestration,
> >which might be a good thing.
> >
>
> They can also be burned in a trash to energy plant too. Saves other
> fuels from being burned.

I WISH we had one of those. I guess the objections are about smoke
and whatever else is released to the air, but it seems like that
problem would have been solved by now.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/20/2013 12:48 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2013-04-20, Ophelia > wrote:
>>
>>> Look what I found on google:
>>>
>>> http://www.all-tea-towels.co.uk/teat...tory-g-39.html
>>
>> Leave it to the web to have a "tea towel" website. Love it!
>>
>> Thanks fer filling that lifelong hole in my life. I can go to my
>> grave, content.
>>
>> BTW, we had a couple hand embroidered tea towels. Prabably my
>> grandmother's.
>>
>> nb
>>
> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me hesitant
> to use them. Is that silly?

Not silly at all! But you might like to do something decorative with them
so you can see them? I have a few plates etc which had belonged to my
Grandmother and Aunt which I keep on display on my Welsh Dresser Thinking
about your tea towels, just an idea ... you could have one laid out on a
flat surface covered with a sheet of glass? You could change them from time
to time. The glass is not expensive. My bedroom stuff, ie nightstands,
dressing table etc has glass covered tops. I bought the glass when the
furniture was new and it keeps the wood clear from spills/spray and stuff.

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:30:12 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Do those timers use power? I use timers only when we are away. Our
>>house tends to be dark most nights. I usually only have a light on in
>>the rooms I am in. If my wife is out I leave the the outdoor light on
>>and the kitchen light so she doesn't have to fumble in the dark.
>
> I have light on timers in the living room, family room, and outside
> over the family room slider. Other lights have motion sensors.
>
> OTOH, we have a small under counter fluorescent light in the kitchen.
> It has been on the past 32 years we've lived here. Only time it goes
> off is when the bulb or fixture burns out and is then replaced. Day
> and night it is on.
>
>>
>>The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
>>seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
>>drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
>>thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
>>rather than turning up the heat.
>
> I don't waste energy, but I use it as we see fit. My car is mid sized
> with a turbo engine (average 28 - 30 mpg and 0-60 in 5.8 seconds) the
> heat is 68 to 70 and the AC goes on at any hint of discomfort.

Yes. We like to be careful but heck, you gotta live! We don't want to be
living in discomfort to save a few pounds, nor do we want the stress of
being nagged

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On Apr 20, 10:36*pm, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:08:38 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>
> > wrote:
>
> >but burying paper products in land fills is a form of carbon sequestration,
> >which might be a good thing.
>
> They can also be burned in a trash to energy plant too. Saves other
> fuels from being burned.

Maybe, if they are recycled/sorted. If such a facility isn't
available, and the requisite recycling/sorting isn't available, they
just add to the landfills.

N.

On 20/04/2013 11:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>
>> The irony of the situation is that I tend to take energyu conservation
>> seriously, trying not to waste gasoline, natural gas and electricity. I
>> drive a small fuel efficient car, watch my electricity use and keep the
>> thermostat low in winter, rarely use AC in summer. I put on a sweater
>> rather than turning up the heat.
>
> I don't waste energy, but I use it as we see fit. My car is mid sized
> with a turbo engine (average 28 - 30 mpg and 0-60 in 5.8 seconds) the
> heat is 68 to 70 and the AC goes on at any hint of discomfort.
>


I was in the locker room at the Y a few years ago when there was
conversation about someone's trip to Vancouver for a wedding. One of the
younger guys got on his case about the decandance of travelling 2500
miles for a wedding saying that sort of stuff is unsustainable in this
day and age. I weighed in with my opinion, pointing out the number of
cars in the parking lot on such a nice day. I know that particular guy
lives only about a half mile from the gym and drives there. I usually
bicycle three miles to gym. The same complainer usually spends 10
minutes or more under a hit show , uses 3-4 towels (provided free at
the gym) and when finished uses about half of can of the Right Guard to
spray on his body and another half can of the Arrid deodorant on his arm
pits. And he has the nerve to justice someone else for a cross country
trip that included a wedding.

On 4/21/2013 5:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 4/20/2013 12:48 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2013-04-20, Ophelia > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Look what I found on google:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.all-tea-towels.co.uk/teat...tory-g-39.html
>>>
>>> Leave it to the web to have a "tea towel" website. Love it!
>>>
>>> Thanks fer filling that lifelong hole in my life. I can go to my
>>> grave, content.
>>>
>>> BTW, we had a couple hand embroidered tea towels. Prabably my
>>> grandmother's.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
>
> Not silly at all! But you might like to do something decorative with
> them so you can see them? I have a few plates etc which had belonged to
> my Grandmother and Aunt which I keep on display on my Welsh Dresser
> Thinking about your tea towels, just an idea ... you could have one laid
> out on a flat surface covered with a sheet of glass? You could change
> them from time to time. The glass is not expensive. My bedroom stuff,
> ie nightstands, dressing table etc has glass covered tops. I bought the
> glass when the furniture was new and it keeps the wood clear from
> spills/spray and stuff.
>
Good ideas, thanks! I have an octagon-shaped table in the living room.
Sitting on top is a decorative vase which looks like a milk pitcher
sitting on top. Occasionally I pick flowers to put in it. I could
iron one of the tea towels to place under it. I could also put one
under the lamp on the table in the entryway.

They are both odd shaped tables, though, so I wouldn't be buying glass
tops. The glass would have to be custom cut which *would* be expensive.

Jill

On 4/20/2013 10:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
>
> They definitely are replacable, just not with the same exact tea
> towels. lol I would use them for something, if they're thet fancy
> they'd make a nice doily under some lamp or candy dish... at least
> you'll see them... what's the point of even having them if locked away
> out of sight year after year.
>
Good ideas, thanks!

Jill

On 4/20/2013 10:23 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:51:58 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
>
> NO. They were your grandmother's. Leave it up to your nieces and
> nephews to disrespect them after your death.
>
LOL! I have one nephew. I seriously doubt he'd be interested in his
great-grandmother's tea towels. I think I'll find some way to use them,
decoratively rather than in more practical use.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/21/2013 5:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 4/20/2013 12:48 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2013-04-20, Ophelia > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Look what I found on google:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.all-tea-towels.co.uk/teat...tory-g-39.html
>>>>
>>>> Leave it to the web to have a "tea towel" website. Love it!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks fer filling that lifelong hole in my life. I can go to my
>>>> grave, content.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, we had a couple hand embroidered tea towels. Prabably my
>>>> grandmother's.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>>> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>>> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>>> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
>>
>> Not silly at all! But you might like to do something decorative with
>> them so you can see them? I have a few plates etc which had belonged to
>> my Grandmother and Aunt which I keep on display on my Welsh Dresser
>> Thinking about your tea towels, just an idea ... you could have one laid
>> out on a flat surface covered with a sheet of glass? You could change
>> them from time to time. The glass is not expensive. My bedroom stuff,
>> ie nightstands, dressing table etc has glass covered tops. I bought the
>> glass when the furniture was new and it keeps the wood clear from
>> spills/spray and stuff.
>>
> Good ideas, thanks! I have an octagon-shaped table in the living room.
> Sitting on top is a decorative vase which looks like a milk pitcher
> sitting on top. Occasionally I pick flowers to put in it. I could
> iron one of the tea towels to place under it. I could also put one under
> the lamp on the table in the entryway.
>
> They are both odd shaped tables, though, so I wouldn't be buying glass
> tops. The glass would have to be custom cut which *would* be expensive.

Well, whatever you do, I hope you enjoy your Grandmother's tea towels))
Pity to hide them away)

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:35:39 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/20/2013 10:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:51:58 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
>>> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
>>> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
>>> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
>>
>> NO. They were your grandmother's. Leave it up to your nieces and
>> nephews to disrespect them after your death.
>>
>LOL! I have one nephew. I seriously doubt he'd be interested in his
>great-grandmother's tea towels. I think I'll find some way to use them,
>decoratively rather than in more practical use.

You can sew a piece of pretty cloth onto the back and stuff it to make
a decorative pillow... Persia can sleep on it!

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:22:46 PM UTC-4, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 4/20/2013 1:08 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
>
>
> > So do the Vivas. I have been known to let some go thru the wash (
>
> > too rushed to check pockets ) and the darn things come out very soft
>
> > and yet no tears. They can be reused for a quick counter wipe.
>
> >
>
> > Saving trees........
>
>
>
>
>
> That is excellent; reduce, reuse, recycle. My nitrile gloves can be
>
> washed and dried over and over, and they slip on just fine, they never
>
> stick when you wear them.
>

I bet your are not crazy about disposable diapers.

We have curbside recycling, and it gripes me that ppl still won't schlep stuff out there. She's also the babe who doesn't wear a seatbelt, so whadda ya want?

I'm pretty good about turning off lights if a room is unoccupied. I have better things to spend money on than power.

On 4/21/2013 12:57 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> You can sew a piece of pretty cloth onto the back and stuff it to make
> a decorative pillow... Persia can sleep on it!

Good idea... except she doesn't sleep where I want her to. She's got
her own ideas about such things.

Jill

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:35:39 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 4/20/2013 10:23 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:51:58 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I believe I have a few embroidered tea towels in a drawer in the
> >> sideboard. They were probably my grandmother's. They're a little too
> >> fancy for daily use. They are also irreplaceable which makes me
> >> hesitant to use them. Is that silly?
> >
> > NO. They were your grandmother's. Leave it up to your nieces and
> > nephews to disrespect them after your death.
> >
> LOL! I have one nephew. I seriously doubt he'd be interested in his
> great-grandmother's tea towels. I think I'll find some way to use them,
> decoratively rather than in more practical use.
>
Maybe you can put several together to use as a kitchen curtain? If
you don't sew, the local dry cleaner could put a rod pocket in the
unembroidered end for you.

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:25:20 +0100, "Ophelia" ku>
wrote:

> My bedroom stuff, ie nightstands,
> dressing table etc has glass covered tops. I bought the glass when the
> furniture was new and it keeps the wood clear from spills/spray and stuff.

I like to put glass tops on furniture too. Makes it much easier to
take care of. Dummkopf me didn't do that for a couple of antiques and
now I have the marks to prove what a dummy I was. Fortunately, it's
easier to find someone to fix wood than it is to fix leather so I'm
not fretting very much over it.

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:32:37 +0100, "Ophelia" ku>
wrote:

> We like to be careful but heck, you gotta live! We don't want to be
> living in discomfort to save a few pounds, nor do we want the stress of
> being nagged.

Ditto! I draw the line at wearing a coat inside my house just to save
a few dollars when we can afford to pay the heating bill.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:25:20 +0100, "Ophelia" ku>
> wrote:
>
>> My bedroom stuff, ie nightstands,
>> dressing table etc has glass covered tops. I bought the glass when the
>> furniture was new and it keeps the wood clear from spills/spray and
>> stuff.
>
> I like to put glass tops on furniture too. Makes it much easier to
> take care of. Dummkopf me didn't do that for a couple of antiques and
> now I have the marks to prove what a dummy I was. Fortunately, it's
> easier to find someone to fix wood than it is to fix leather so I'm
> not fretting very much over it.
>

think carefully before you restore an antique. Restoration may negatively
affect its value.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:05:56 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> One of the
> younger guys got on his case about the decandance of travelling 2500
> miles for a wedding saying that sort of stuff is unsustainable in this
> day and age. I weighed in with my opinion

If I had to travel 2500 miles just for a wedding... I'd fly RT.

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