I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
temp will kill and germs.

I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

Judy

On 4/26/2013 1:15 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy
>

It's a good idea because they're pretty filthy. Well, that's my belief
anyway.

(Judy Haffner) wrote:

>
>I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
>washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
>it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
>she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
>by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
>your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
>He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
>temp will kill and germs.
>
>I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
>hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
>chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

I'm with the Dr on this one. Why wash and spread when you can just
cook it?

Jim

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy


Me too. I'm amazed that in the old days with the way people prepared their
food without consulting an expert about cooking a chicken, that they're
still alive to tell the tale. LOL

Cheri

On 2013-04-26, Judy Haffner > wrote:

> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

Chicken, as processed and sold in the USA, is now so totally
disgusting and horrific, I won't even buy or eat it.

nb

"Judy Haffner" wrote in message
...


I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
temp will kill and germs.

I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

Judy

~~~~~~~~
I don't wash chicken, for the same reason as given by Dr. Oz. I wash my
hands and the cutting board thoroughly after handling chicken, but I read
several years ago that washing (or soaking) chicken is a good way of
spreading bacteria to the sink. I do keep one set of cutting boards (one
large and one small) for raw meat and poultry and another set for fruit and
veggies. It's easy to keep them separate--the boards I use for meat are
black, and the others are "natural" color.

MaryL

On Apr 26, 7:15*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
> Judy

Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
hands again.

Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy

Absolutely was the chicken, the same as most every other type of meat as
well as vegetables. If it's "spreading germs" you 'aint doing it right
and your kitchen must be a bacteria incubator. I sanitize all the
surfaces in my kitchen regularly and the work surfaces every time I use
them.

I hate washing chicken-such a mess. I do however use paper towels to
thoroughly wipe off dry off the chicken parts. These days when I buy a
package of legs for example, they often haven't even been thoroughly
skinned! Food today makes me wish my grandparents farm had remained in
the family.

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

It is no longer advised to wash chicken and hasn't been for many years. All
you're doing when you wash it it spreading yucky stuff all over. Just cook
it.

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>
>>she was watching the Dr. Oz show
>
> The MORE I hear about Dr Oz, the LESS I trust him and his judgment!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To reply by email, lose the Ks...
>

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>
>>she was watching the Dr. Oz show
>
> The MORE I hear about Dr Oz, the LESS I trust him and his judgment!!!

Dr. Oz is full of hooey!

wrote:
> On Apr 26, 7:15 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were
>> discussing washing raw chicken, which I have always done before
>> cooking it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster
>> said that she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said
>> NOT to. He says by washing you are possibly spreading germs and
>> fecal matter through your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet
>> carrying the bacteria lands. Judy
>
> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
> chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
> counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
> hands again.

Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not eating at
your house!

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
>washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
>it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
>she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
>by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
>your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
>He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
>temp will kill and germs.
>
>I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
>hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
>chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?

Not only do I not wash raw chicken, I try not to touch it at all, if
possible. I also try not to allow the chicken to touch my counter or
cutting boards. If it's being roasted, it goes straight from the
package into the roasting pan or other cooking vessel.

If I am making stir-fry, I have a big flexible plastic cutting board I
use for cutting up the chicken breasts. The raw chicken goes directly
from the package onto this cutting board, and the board gets
thoroughly cleaned when I'm done with it.

I agree with Dr Oz that you only spread germs around into your sink
etc if you wash your raw chicken. This is one of the few areas where I
agree with what he says.

Doris

On Apr 26, 10:57*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 7:15 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> >> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were
> >> discussing washing raw chicken, which I have always done before
> >> cooking it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster
> >> said that she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said
> >> NOT to. He says by washing you are possibly spreading germs and
> >> fecal matter through your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet
> >> carrying the bacteria lands. Judy
>
> > Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
> > hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? *I always rinse off
> > chicken. *After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
> > counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
> > hands again.
>
> Oh great! *Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. *I am sooo not eating at
> your house!

You're not invited anyway.

On Apr 26, 11:26*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:57:39 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
> >> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? *I always rinse off
> >> chicken. *After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
> >> counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
> >> hands again.
>
> > Oh great! *Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. *I am sooo not eating at
> > your house!
>
> Really. *I replace the whole countertops every time I handle chicken.
>
> Talk about PARANOID!
>
> -sw

You call washing everything that the chicken or your hands might have
touched while handling the chicken being paranoid? I call it common
sense.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
>> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
>> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
>> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
>> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
>> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
>> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>>
>> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
>> temp will kill and germs.
>>
>> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
>> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
>> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
>
> Too much caution about sanitary practices will make you obsessive
> compulsive and even more prone to germs and disease. Screw Dr Oz, his
> guest speakers, and his wannabe Oprah-complex.

hmm...eat cooked shit or fling it around the kitchen...decisions, decisions

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
>>washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
>>it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
>>she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
>>by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
>>your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>>
>>He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
>>temp will kill and germs.
>>
>>I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
>>hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
>>chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Not only do I not wash raw chicken, I try not to touch it at all, if
> possible. I also try not to allow the chicken to touch my counter or
> cutting boards. If it's being roasted, it goes straight from the
> package into the roasting pan or other cooking vessel.


I make it a point to lick my finger whenever I handle raw chicken. My
immune system is not impaired, and I want to keep it that way as long as
possible.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...

> Too much caution about sanitary practices will make you obsessive
> compulsive and even more prone to germs and disease. Screw Dr Oz, his
> guest speakers, and his wannabe Oprah-complex.
>
> -sw


+10,000

Cheri

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:57:39 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
>>> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
>>> chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
>>> counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
>>> hands again.
>>
>> Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not eating
>> at
>> your house!
>
> Really. I replace the whole countertops every time I handle chicken.
>
> Talk about PARANOID!
>
> -sw


LOL

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:41:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> > Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not
>>> > eating at
>>> > your house!
>>>
>>> Really. I replace the whole countertops every time I handle chicken.
>>>
>>> Talk about PARANOID!
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>You call washing everything that the chicken or your hands might have
>>touched while handling the chicken being paranoid? I call it common
>>sense.
>
> I just MOVE after cooking chicken.
>
> If you believe everything ELSE in this group,
> you'll probably believe that too.

I never cook my chicken, just eat it straight from the package. No worry
with germs on the counter that way.

Cheri

On Apr 26, 7:15*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy

Oz needs to put on a show 5 days a week. That's why a chap was on
there the other day touting egg white only scrambled eggs. As for
washing chicken, I've never done so. But then I've never eaten
chicken. What's it like? Tastes like frog's legs?

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:56:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:15:22 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>she was watching the Dr. Oz show
>>>
>>> The MORE I hear about Dr Oz, the LESS I trust him and his judgment!!!
>>
>>Dr. Oz is full of hooey!
>
> Apparently AS bad as Dr. Mercola for medical advice.

Agreed! I am with Dr. O. on the anti chicken washing but most of what he
says is a bunch of hooey.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:57:39 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
>>> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
>>> chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
>>> counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
>>> hands again.
>>
>> Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not eating
>> at
>> your house!
>
> Really. I replace the whole countertops every time I handle chicken.
>
> Talk about PARANOID!

Studies have shown that wiping only spreads germs. I know of a person who
is constantly wiping things with the same cloth and plain water. Thinks she
is clearing.

wrote:
> On Apr 26, 10:57 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Apr 26, 7:15 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were
>>>> discussing washing raw chicken, which I have always done before
>>>> cooking it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a
>>>> poster said that she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor
>>>> there said NOT to. He says by washing you are possibly spreading
>>>> germs and fecal matter through your kitchen wherever a stray water
>>>> droplet carrying the bacteria lands. Judy
>>
>>> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
>>> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
>>> chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off
>>> the counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash
>>> my hands again.
>>
>> Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not
>> eating at your house!
>
> You're not invited anyway.

Good!

In article >,
(Judy Haffner) wrote:

> but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

Oh, the inanity!

> How many here wash raw chicken?

Me. Well... I only rinse them. Mom washed them.

leo

In article >,
says...
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

Logic failure, since any health-aware cook will be washing their own
hands, knife, chopping board etc after handling raw chicken.

If I buy loose pieces of raw chicken I always rinse them before use.
If it's a whole chicken I just rinse out the body cavity.

My kitchen sinks and the surrounding splash area are clutter free, and
washed down with hot soapy water at least three times a day. We've never
had food poisoning.

Janet UK

>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy

Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

> How many here wash raw chicken?

Think about what they are saying though. Better to cook and eat dead germs
and fecal matter rather than wash it off and risk contaminating your sink or
countertop? Which you can easily clean? LOL

I use my dishwasher. It's the safest way to go and the perfect appliance for
this issue. Buy a few chickens, stand them up on the bottom rack, then run
the first cycle (with no soap). All bacteria water dropplets are contained
in a sealed environment.

Once the first cycle drains, remove chickens, add soap and let the
dishwasher continue on to clean itself. Just when you thought they were made
only for washing dishes.

But seriously, I always rinse off a chicken with cold water before cutting
or cooking.

G. :-D

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:16:25 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:32:01 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>> I'm with the Dr on this one. Why wash and spread when you can just
>> cook it?
>
>I sorta agree - that you don't need to wash chicken. But not because
>of the fear of spreading salmonella and fecal matter. You can't live
>in a bubble all your life being paranoid about every airborne germ
>(and if we only knew the HALF of it). Eat some shit, inhale some
>salmonella, it will eventually make you stronger.
>
>48% of the soda fountain spigots at fast food places also had fecal
>matter on them. 90% of meat contain shit. And your shoes? Do you
>really want to know what on your shoes and carpet? No. Just live
>your life and stop watching all these bullshit daytime shows that are
>out there to scare you.
>

This Canadian prof [and me, for that matter] agrees with you-
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...5.html?cmp=rss

While he seems to know a bit about science, his daughters are likely
headed right to the therapist for his 'over-sharing'.

Jim

On 27/04/2013 09:46, Gary wrote:
> Judy Haffner wrote:
>>
>> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
>> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
>> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
>> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
>> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
>> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
>> How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Think about what they are saying though. Better to cook and eat dead germs
> and fecal matter rather than wash it off and risk contaminating your sink or
> countertop? Which you can easily clean? LOL
>
> I use my dishwasher. It's the safest way to go and the perfect appliance for
> this issue. Buy a few chickens, stand them up on the bottom rack, then run
> the first cycle (with no soap). All bacteria water dropplets are contained
> in a sealed environment.
>
> Once the first cycle drains, remove chickens, add soap and let the
> dishwasher continue on to clean itself. Just when you thought they were made
> only for washing dishes.
>
> But seriously, I always rinse off a chicken with cold water before cutting
> or cooking.
>
> G. :-D
>
use to wash my chickens, but having read the problem of spreading the
nasties, including breathing it in, I simply wipe them over with kitchen
paper.

> wrote in message
...
> I can't believe someone finally said it !!! Eat a peck o dirt etc,
> all this 'sanitizing' creates a field day for Lysol and whomever.

Yeah. I freaking hate that antibacterial hand gel. And I won't buy soap
with that stuff in it. Not usually anyway. I will use it if I have a wound
but only on that area. One bottle lasts me a long time. Sadly the kids are
required to use the gel at school and at the dance studio. And does it cut
down on illness? Nope. If anything there is more illness.

On 4/26/2013 6:15 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?


Our kitchen has very limited counter space sop when we moved here, I
started cutting up chickens in the sink. Clean the sink first, open the
bag and cut up the chicken, rinse everything, put the chicken in the
pot/pan, clean the sink and the knives, shears, etc.

I'm guessing that there is the possibility for some spatter to escape
the cleanup... but really... I'm thinking we are over-reacting.

If you have sharp knives and a good set of poultry shears, you really
don't need a cutting board.

George L

On 4/26/2013 7:15 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.
>
> He says take it from the package and just cook it thoroughly. The high
> temp will kill and germs.
>
Dr. Oz is a sensationalist. He may be a good cardic surgeon, I don't
know. But some of the stuff he talks about on that show is ridiculous.
If you don't rinse the chicken you're going to have "chicken blood" on
your hands anyway; so which is worse?

> I think I will continue to wash it like I always have and then wash my
> hands throughly before continuing on with preparation to cook the
> chicken. How many here wash raw chicken?
>
> Judy
>
I'll continue rinsing off chicken, then wash my hands. I wash my hands
several times during meal prep anyway.

Jill

On 4/27/2013 1:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:57:39 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, doesn't everybody go around their kitchen flinging their wet
>>>> hands and utensils after handling raw chicken? I always rinse off
>>>> chicken. After that, I wash my hands, wash the utensils, wipe off the
>>>> counter, wash out the sink, wash off the faucets, and then wash my
>>>> hands again.
>>>
>>> Oh great! Just wipe it off instead of cleaning it. I am sooo not eating
>>> at
>>> your house!
>>
>> Really. I replace the whole countertops every time I handle chicken.
>>
>> Talk about PARANOID!
>
> Studies have shown that wiping only spreads germs. I know of a person who
> is constantly wiping things with the same cloth and plain water. Thinks she
> is clearing.
>
>
How do you know what djs is using to wipe the counters? Could be a
different hot soapy cloth every time.

Jill

George Leppla wrote:
>
> Our kitchen has very limited counter space sop when we moved here, I
> started cutting up chickens in the sink. Clean the sink first, open the
> bag and cut up the chicken, rinse everything, put the chicken in the
> pot/pan, clean the sink and the knives, shears, etc.
>
> I'm guessing that there is the possibility for some spatter to escape
> the cleanup... but really... I'm thinking we are over-reacting.

Ya think?

G.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 4/27/2013 1:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> > Studies have shown that wiping only spreads germs. I know of a person who
> > is constantly wiping things with the same cloth and plain water. Thinks she
> > is clearing.

heheh... well Julie, you can know me too. That's what I do.

> How do you know what djs is using to wipe the counters? Could be a
> different hot soapy cloth every time.

I use a washcloth to wipe my counters off 2-3 times. Wipe, rinse the cloth,
wipe again (and occasionally a third time if it seems necessary). All with
plain hot water. I do NOT use any cleaners or antiseptic/anti-bacterial
products on my counters. You don't want chemicals in your food, why would
you spread "god-knows-what" on your countertop then prepare food on it.

I've survived doing this for almost 60 years now. I think I'm good for the
next 40.

Don't want to come over and eat at my house? Fine...I don't want you here
anyway. More for me!

G.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:08:46 -0700, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I never cook my chicken, just eat it straight from the package. No worry
>> with germs on the counter that way.
>
> The meat packaging industry is soon to be coming out with packages
> that you can cook, either in water or the oven. Right from the
> grocery shelves/coolers to the oven or pot of water - no unwrapping
> necessary. It was mentioned in a recent issue of Meat & Poultry
> Magazine (honest!).

They are already on the shelves here in Florida, maybe we're
a test market, but the advertising started a good year ago.
A roaster, two game hens (that have to be cooked together)
and one other packaging. I haven't looked lately, and haven't
tried them, but its a pretty neat idea for the cooking-lame.
Brand name is Tyson.

pavane

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:46:21 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> I use my dishwasher. It's the safest way to go and the perfect appliance
>> for
>> this issue. Buy a few chickens, stand them up on the bottom rack, then
>> run
>> the first cycle (with no soap). All bacteria water dropplets are
>> contained
>> in a sealed environment.
>
> I just throw live chickens into my washing machine with a bunch of
> salt and set a big rock on top of the lid. It scalds and tenderizes
> them while the agitator removes all the feathers. After that
> evisceration is easy and clean once the insides are par-cooked -
> everything just comes out in one big chunk rather than a slimy mess of
> loose entrails that flop out of a live chicken. The spin-dry cycle
> also helps remove extra moisture from under the skin and makes it
> crisp up nicely.

Very nice, and the big chunk of entrails should make it a snap
to create a chicken haggis. Yum.

pavane

On 4/26/2013 7:15 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I was snooping into another cooking group today and they were discussing
> washing raw chicken, which I have always done before cooking
> it....rinsing it off under water and drying it, but a poster said that
> she was watching the Dr. Oz show and a doctor there said NOT to. He says
> by washing you are possibly spreading germs and fecal matter through
> your kitchen wherever a stray water droplet carrying the bacteria lands.

We had this discussion on rfc probably 10 years ago, those who tell us
what's good for us have been saying not to wash chicken for years.

I wash my chicken, nothing's changed. I wash my mushrooms too, they get
a quick rinse.

Take that, experts.

nancy

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> Don't want to come over and eat at my house? Fine...I don't want you here
> anyway. More for me!
>
> G.


Yeah, people say they're not coming to your house to eat like that's a bad
thing. LOL

Cheri