On Thu, 2 May 2013 12:06:01 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> I also have anonymous caller block, but I doubt it works.
>
It worked for me... but I haven't had a landline in years, so maybe
it's different now.

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On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:07:56 -0500, jay > wrote:

> Buy a new phone. Many of them have built in call blocker. I use a
> silent ring tone list. If the call is not on my white list the ring
> tone is "silent"... never hear them a-calling. ahahaha

I like that!

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On 5/2/2013 8:41 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 18:00:05 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2013 3:40 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> The first thing you need to do is eliminate giving out your phone
>>> number in your answering machine message, that's very likely how the
>>> cranks got your phone number. What is your reason for including your
>>> phone number in your answering machine message... whoever calls
>>> already knows your phone number. Most private residence answering
>>> machine messages simply say to leave your name, phone number, and
>>> brief message at the beep... many include their last name ("You've
>>> reached the Mc Quown residence") but I don't know of anyone but you
>>> that gives their phone number.
>>
>> That's silly. Auto-dialed recorded calls don't know if I'm saying my
>> name or my phone number or reciting the alphabet. The program isn't
>> listening to my greeting, it's simply determining it has reached a
>> machine before it disconnects.
>
> You're being silly and naive... unscrupulous schemers record answering
> machine messages and later harvest names and/or phone numbers.

Time for me to don my tinfoil hat! Sheldon, companies have programs
that record numbers that answer. They don't need to *hear* my phone
number on a message to know it's not a fax machine or a non-working number.

> is absolutely no good reason to have your phone number in your
> answering machine message, you're offering your phone number to the
> world, including stalkers and ax murderers.
>
That's priceless! I will alert Security... Someone might show up at the
gate. I'm not sure whether he/she will identify themselves as a
"stalker" or an "ax murderer". But please don't let them in!

Jill

On 5/2/2013 9:02 PM, merryb wrote:
> I thought if you told them to take you off of their list, they had to.

Allegedly. But you can't take a pre-recorded auto-dialed call off your
list until you play their game. You have to listen to the entire thing
then press 1 to get to a representative. Said person most likely
doesn't have the authority to remove you from any list. They'll likely
say sure, but by speaking to them you've just validated your number.
Lots of these companies probably originate outside the US and don't care
about the Do Not Call Registry. I'd rather not play that game.

Jill

On 5/2/2013 9:44 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 17:06:15 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>> If someone *really* needed to reach me in an emergency, they know how.
>> But really, nothing short of an evacuation is that much of an emergency.
>>
> That's why I said to screen your calls. Pick it up if you recognize
> the number, let the machine take it if you don't. If you don't feel
> like looking at the answering machine, then you certainly shouldn't
> care if they hang up without leaving a message. I certainly don't.
>
I guess I'm not being clear. I *am* screening my calls. I'm not
answering unidentified calls. At this point I'm not answering *any*
calls.

Jill

On May 2, 7:47*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:29:54 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>
> > *if I happen to be close by the phone and
>
> > don't recognize the number, I just pick the phone up and immediately hang
>
> > up.
>
> WRONG!!!! *This tells them there IS a live body at that number and you're less likely to be deleted from their lists. *Aw, heck, on 2nd thought, *I doubt they have sucker lists. *Their equipt. just dials thru entire exchanges and hope for some schnook to pick up.

I hit the answer/off buttons "click, click," that fast, and apparently
it makes their system think something is wrong with the number,
because so far none of those have called again.

N.

On May 2, 8:02*pm, merryb > wrote:
> On May 2, 2:06*pm, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/2/2013 4:16 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > >> sf wrote:
>
> > >>> Screen your calls with an answering machine.
>
> > >> I do that. *But having the phone ringing many times a day only to hear
> > >> <click> when the machine kicks in is driving me to distraction.
>
> > > An answering machine can't screen calls unless the caller leaves a
> > > message... many people, including me, don't always leave a message
> > > unless they have something important to say because they hate playing
> > > telephone tag... and too many people do not return calls for days only
> > > to assert dominance. *You need to look at your caller ID and if a
> > > number is displayed that you recognize as someone you know then you
> > > would be wise to answer your phone, or they will likely make more
> > > attempts. *If I see a number of someone I know I always answer my
> > > phone... If I can't talk at the moment I simply say I will call back
> > > at a particular time and then I do... I don't play telephone games,
> > > especially pretending I'm not there. *Before I give out my phone
> > > number I decide if it's someone I value enough to answer when they
> > > call and that they will respect me enough to answer when I call. *I
> > > take the telephone seriously, it's an important tool, not a toy for
> > > playing infantile mind games.
>
> > I'm not talking about pretending I'm not home, although it is certainly
> > my right not to answer if I don't feel like it. *I'm not a slave to the
> > telephone.
>
> > I was talking about auto-dialed phone calls. *They don't display a
> > number or name. *The systems disconnect if they get a machine or
> > voicemail. *They'll auto-dial again periodically. *This is particularly
> > true when elections are going on.
>
> > As far as "telephone games", I'll say this. *I'm sure as hell not
> > rushing to check the caller ID if I hear the phone and I'm in the
> > shower. *I don't feel like slipping and breaking my neck because chances
> > are it's not important. *If it is, the person will leave me a message..
> > Many a time I've been unloading bags of groceries and the phone rings.
> > They can wait, I'm busy. *Then again, I also consider myself busy if I'm
> > simply sitting outside enjoying a book. *Or cooking or eating.
>
> > If someone *really* needed to reach me in an emergency, they know how.
> > But really, nothing short of an evacuation is that much of an emergency..
>
> > Jill
>
> I thought if you told them to take you off of their list, they had to.

Yes, that is what the law says. But apparently, nobody is prosecuting
them very fast, or they just keep changing numbers. Some will take
you off, but most don't give a damn. That is why I encourage people
to file the FCC form online.

N.

"dsi1" <> Something must have changed in the regulations that have made
conditions
> so bad. I've had my business number for over 10 years and I'm afraid to
> drop it. My private number is fine cause I can change it if there's a
> problem. Near as I can tell, there's nothing that can be done with these
> telemarketers. We are doomed.
no, No, NOOOO. Let's not be doomed. I'm not much on revenge but it does
help my black little heart to at least be annoying. Sometimes I press '1'
and set the phone down and go on with whatever I was doing. Sometimes I
pretend to be interested and ask lotsa dumb questions. Sometimes I wait for
a real person (as in not a fake person ?) and read them the Attorney
General's statement about Do Not Call. Mississippi isn't so good on much
but our AG did collect $800,000 from a firm that violated caller id. Let's
not be victims. Get creative in persecuting the persecutors. Polly

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:29:54 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>
>
>
> if I happen to be close by the phone and
>
> don't recognize the number, I just pick the phone up and immediately hang
>
> up.
>

WRONG!!!! This tells them there IS a live body at that number and you're
less likely to be deleted from their lists. Aw, heck, on 2nd thought, I
doubt they have sucker lists. Their equipt. just dials thru entire
exchanges and hope for some schnook to pick up.

========

Oh well, I'm not that often by the phone, and if they persist, I put them in
the reject file of my Caller ID that I purchased from Radio Shack years ago
for a hundred dollars, a wonderful invention worth every penny (but no
longer made) that cuts them off at 1 1/2 rings so they don't even reach my
answering machine.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 2 May 2013 17:47:04 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:29:54 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> >
>> > if I happen to be close by the phone and
>> >
>> > don't recognize the number, I just pick the phone up and immediately
>> > hang
>> >
>> > up.
>> >
>>
>> WRONG!!!! This tells them there IS a live body at that number and you're
>> less likely to be deleted from their lists. Aw, heck, on 2nd thought, I
>> doubt they have sucker lists. Their equipt. just dials thru entire
>> exchanges and hope for some schnook to pick up.
>
> Correct. Computers auto-dial all the possible number combinations
> 123-234-4567, 123-234-4568, 123-234-4569 etc.
>
> What I've gotten a couple of times on my cell phone is a machine that
> calls and asks me to wait on the line until a real person can get to
> me. Huh, WHAT? That's what I call chutzpah. It takes brass balls to
> robo-call ME and then tell me to wait when I didn't ask them to call
> in the first place. Click!

I got a call today from a security company and since I know I'm listed as a
contact for my best friend, I answered. They said...don't hang up, this is
not a telemarketing call, and then they proceeded to tell me that someone
had given my name to them and they wanted to sell me a home security, which
is a telemarketing call. Lots of cheek, and I did hang up.

Cheri

On Thu, 02 May 2013 22:45:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/2/2013 9:44 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 May 2013 17:06:15 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >> If someone *really* needed to reach me in an emergency, they know how.
> >> But really, nothing short of an evacuation is that much of an emergency.
> >>
> > That's why I said to screen your calls. Pick it up if you recognize
> > the number, let the machine take it if you don't. If you don't feel
> > like looking at the answering machine, then you certainly shouldn't
> > care if they hang up without leaving a message. I certainly don't.
> >
> I guess I'm not being clear. I *am* screening my calls. I'm not
> answering unidentified calls. At this point I'm not answering *any*
> calls.
>
Then what's the big deal? I had lots of phones all over the house
when I had a landline, but only one of them rang and it was off in a
room where the noise didn't bother me.... but I'm the kind of person
who can sit next to a ringing phone and not feel compelled to answer
it. If a ringing phone bothers you and it's a cell phone, there's a
button to push to send it to the answering machine - if it's a
landline you can always unplug it at the phone. Your answering
machine takes the call in either instance and then it's up to you to
call back or ignore.



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Nancy2 > wrote in
news:f7a8e076-c130-4bcd-9b59-
:


> I do encourage you to record the caller's number, date and time,
and
> then use a reverse lookup service on the Web to find the
marketing
> company's name. In most cases, you will find a company name and
city
> where they are located. Then fill out the complaint form at the
> FCC page.
>
> I think it does work for many of the robo calls.
>
> N.
>

Won't work. In most cases, the number you see on your caller ID
screen is not the telemarketer's real number. The technology
exists, and these slimeballs use it, to make your caller ID
display any number they want it to. There's even a name for it in
telecomm jargon. It's called "spoofing".

Still, it's semi-enjoyable to fantasize about taking "Hi, I'm
<whoever> from Credit Card Services" and staking her out in the
middle of the Sahara Desert. Naked. At high noon. On an ant
hill. And drizzling her with honey.

"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
. 3.30...
> Nancy2 > wrote in
> news:f7a8e076-c130-4bcd-9b59-
> :
>
>
>> I do encourage you to record the caller's number, date and time,
> and
>> then use a reverse lookup service on the Web to find the
> marketing
>> company's name. In most cases, you will find a company name and
> city
>> where they are located. Then fill out the complaint form at the
>> FCC page.
>>
>> I think it does work for many of the robo calls.
>>
>> N.
>>
>
> Won't work. In most cases, the number you see on your caller ID
> screen is not the telemarketer's real number. The technology
> exists, and these slimeballs use it, to make your caller ID
> display any number they want it to. There's even a name for it in
> telecomm jargon. It's called "spoofing".
>
> Still, it's semi-enjoyable to fantasize about taking "Hi, I'm
> <whoever> from Credit Card Services" and staking her out in the
> middle of the Sahara Desert. Naked. At high noon. On an ant
> hill. And drizzling her with honey.

lol When our house phone rings, I always use the hands free. If it is
someone selling something, I just leave them hanging there. They soon get
fed up and ring off Easy to do when you are not holding the handset.
They are paying for the call not me. Pest calls have, over time, reduced to
almost nil.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> Sometimes I indulge them. I will wait for a person and listen to their
> spiel, ask a bunch of stupid questions. I tried to make a game of it,
> trying to see how long I can keep them on the line. The way I figure
> it is that if they are talking to me they aren't hassling someone
> else.

A friend used a variant of your technique: when she gets a spam call she
asks the operator how long does he need the conversation to last in order to
get his bonus (their wage is based on actual sales and valid phone calls,
where valid means "longer than 1 minutes" or alike) and then leaves the
phone as it is for that amount of time. The only time which she'll put the
phone down is when the operator continues trying to sell her something.

Then someone used his brains and came out with the "Opposotions registry",
where everybody can sign his phone numberwhich then gets on a list that
phone-call marketers MUST check every month, and if they call a number which
is there since a month or more they're liable for a penalty fee for every
single call. In a thousand calls a day operation it would cost millions just
for a day of calls to number on that list. I did it for my parents few years
ago, they almost forgot how it was before. Now if they get a spam call it's
always some new operations who still hasn't updated with the list, but this
is a ridiculous amount of calls: they moved from 10-15 a week to less than
one a month.
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

Nancy2 wrote:
>merryb wrote:
>>
>> I thought if you told them to take you off of their list, they had to.
>
>Yes, that is what the law says. But apparently, nobody is prosecuting
>them very fast, or they just keep changing numbers. Some will take
>you off, but most don't give a damn. That is why I encourage people
>to file the FCC form online.

Very easy to fill out the National Do Not Call Registry form... it can
take up to three months to take effect but it does work, it stopped
several marketers from phoning me. And you do not need to know their
name or number, all you need is the time of the call.
https://www.donotcall.gov/

On Thu, 02 May 2013 15:31:43 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 5/2/2013 7:29 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> I don't get calls from *live* telemarketers anymore. But those darned
>> recorded calls haven't stopped. "The F!B!I! reports there is a break-in
>> every 10 minutes" and other such foolishness. Most of the time their
>> names and numbers aren't displayed. So I've got no way to report them.
>>
>> I've given up answering the phone. And no, I'm not going to listen to
>> the recording then press 1 to get a live person on the line to ask them
>> to stop. I seriously doubt they care. And probably don't have any way
>> to control it even if they did care.
>>
>> However, if anyone has any suggestions about how to rid myself of these
>> recorded nuisance calls I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>The last two years have been hell as far as the telephone goes. A lot of
>the calls are from people that collect the numbers to anybody that picks
>up. My guess is that these numbers are collected and sold for cheap.
>These days I don't answer any non-local number unless I know the caller.
>The most annoying is Google web optimization calls. I assume it's a scam.
>
>Something must have changed in the regulations that have made conditions
>so bad. I've had my business number for over 10 years and I'm afraid to
>drop it. My private number is fine cause I can change it if there's a
>problem. Near as I can tell, there's nothing that can be done with these
>telemarketers. We are doomed.

You are so wrong.
https://www.donotcall.gov/

sf
>jay wrote:
>
>> Buy a new phone. Many of them have built in call blocker. I use a
>> silent ring tone list. If the call is not on my white list the ring
>> tone is "silent"... never hear them a-calling. ahahaha
>
>I like that!

Every phone I've ever seen has a switch/menu to shut off the ringer...
even the ancient Ma Bell rotary phones. I have six land line phones
in my house, only two ring. I just bought a new land line phone, it
has three volume switches; voice out, voice in, and a slide switch for
the ringer with an off position. Naturally all cell phones have
several ringer features, yoose frustrated gals can even use vibrate.

Anyone who's annoyed by phone calls it's always their own fault, if
they gave out their number to a private party then they need to expect
them to phone... and telemarketer and other commercial calls are easy
to eliminate with the National Do Not Call Registry.

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:29:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> I don't get calls from *live* telemarketers anymore. But those darned
>
> recorded calls haven't stopped. "The F!B!I! reports there is a break-in
>
> every 10 minutes" and other such foolishness. Most of the time their
>
> names and numbers aren't displayed. So I've got no way to report them.
>
>
>
> I've given up answering the phone. And no, I'm not going to listen to
>
> the recording then press 1 to get a live person on the line to ask them
>
> to stop. I seriously doubt they care. And probably don't have any way
>
> to control it even if they did care.
>
>
>
> However, if anyone has any suggestions about how to rid myself of these
>
> recorded nuisance calls I would greatly appreciate it.
>
I press 1 with a few seconds, and when the person answers, I scream into
the phone, then hang up. The whole thing usually lasts less than 10 seconds.
>
> Jill

--Bryan http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxn...n#.UYOsBbWG1QV

On Fri, 03 May 2013 04:02:30 -0500, Alan Holbrook >
wrote:

>Nancy2 > wrote in
>news:f7a8e076-c130-4bcd-9b59-
:
>
>
>> I do encourage you to record the caller's number, date and time,
>and
>> then use a reverse lookup service on the Web to find the
>marketing
>> company's name. In most cases, you will find a company name and
>city
>> where they are located. Then fill out the complaint form at the
>> FCC page.
>>
>> I think it does work for many of the robo calls.
>>
>> N.
>>
>
>Won't work. In most cases, the number you see on your caller ID
>screen is not the telemarketer's real number.

Doesn't matter... all you need to place the caller into the National
Do Not Call Registry is the date and time of call... you do NOT need
the number or name... the Registry is not instant but it absolutely
works... the fines are way too stiff for the cranks to risk it.
Unfortunately the cranks continue to operate because most folks are
just too darned lazy to spend the few minutes filling out the form.
And if a name/number shows (even though it may be fake) put it into
the form, because you have no way to know whether it's fake. And fill
out a form each time they call. It can take a couple of months for
the calls to cease but the Registry does work.
https://www.donotcall.gov/

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Sometimes I indulge them. I will wait for a person and listen to their
> spiel, ask a bunch of stupid questions. I tried to make a game of it,
> trying to see how long I can keep them on the line. The way I figure
> it is that if they are talking to me they aren't hassling someone
> else.

Most marketing callers are female so occasionally I'd entertain myself
by turning it into a XXX rated conversation... most hang up but
amazingly some of those gals must do XXX rated calls as their primary
job, they are very good at it.

On 5/3/2013 7:47 AM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:23:21 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> having the phone ringing many times a day only to hear
>> <click> when the machine kicks in is driving me to distraction.
>
> So . . . turn the ringer on the telephone off. You'll still be able to
> hear the <click> and your intro message to alert you that someone is
> calling.
>
> Go the extra mile and start off your answering machine intro message
> with the phone company's tone that indicates the phone has been
> disconnected, then dead air for about five seconds before your message
> starts (google for the "phone has been disconnected" tone"). A couple
> of months of that will get you off a lot of call lists, with no effort
> on your part.
>
>
Now that's a good idea!

Jill

On 5/3/2013 1:16 AM, Cheri wrote:
> I got a call today from a security company and since I know I'm listed
> as a contact for my best friend, I answered. They said...don't hang up,
> this is not a telemarketing call, and then they proceeded to tell me
> that someone had given my name to them and they wanted to sell me a home
> security, which is a telemarketing call. Lots of cheek, and I did hang up.
>
> Cheri

Yes, I get similar calls quite frequently. I already have a security
system, it's mandatory where I live. These are the kinds of calls that
are bothering me. The Do Not Call list doesn't stop the automatic
dialers. Those need to be outlawed.

Jill

On 5/3/2013 5:02 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
> Nancy2 > wrote in
> news:f7a8e076-c130-4bcd-9b59-
> :
>
>
>> I do encourage you to record the caller's number, date and time,
> and
>> then use a reverse lookup service on the Web to find the
> marketing
>> company's name. In most cases, you will find a company name and
> city
>> where they are located. Then fill out the complaint form at the
>> FCC page.
>>
>> I think it does work for many of the robo calls.
>>
>> N.
>>
>
> Won't work. In most cases, the number you see on your caller ID
> screen is not the telemarketer's real number. The technology
> exists, and these slimeballs use it, to make your caller ID
> display any number they want it to. There's even a name for it in
> telecomm jargon. It's called "spoofing".
>
I tried calling one of those "credit card services" at the number that
displayed. The person who answered was aware their (legitimate but not
credit card related) business number was being displayed as part of a
marketing scam. One can only hope they're not losing business because
of it.

> Still, it's semi-enjoyable to fantasize about taking "Hi, I'm
> <whoever> from Credit Card Services" and staking her out in the
> middle of the Sahara Desert. Naked. At high noon. On an ant
> hill. And drizzling her with honey.
>
LOL! I wonder if she gets royalties for making that recording?

Jill

Brooklyn1 wrote:

> You are so wrong.
> https://www.donotcall.gov/

The US version of the Oppositions registry
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On May 3, 4:02*am, Alan Holbrook > wrote:
> Nancy2 > wrote in
> news:f7a8e076-c130-4bcd-9b59-
> :
>
>
>
> > I do encourage you to record the caller's number, date and time,
> and
> > then use a reverse lookup service on the Web to find the
> marketing
> > company's name. *In most cases, you will find a company name and
> city
> > where they are located. *Then fill out the complaint form at the
> > FCC page.
>
> > I think it does work for many of the robo calls.
>
> > N.
>
> Won't work. *In most cases, the number you see on your caller ID
> screen is not the telemarketer's real number. *The technology
> exists, and these slimeballs use it, to make your caller ID
> display any number they want it to. *There's even a name for it in
> telecomm jargon. *It's called "spoofing".
>
> Still, it's semi-enjoyable to fantasize about taking "Hi, I'm
> <whoever> from Credit Card Services" and staking her out in the
> middle of the Sahara Desert. *Naked. *At high noon. *On an ant
> hill. *And drizzling her with honey.

I have already said that it has worked for me for many of these
calls. The numbers are real and the companies are real. Believe what
you like but if you do nothing, then your experience will never
change.

N.

On May 3, 5:04*am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > Sometimes I indulge them. I will wait for a person and listen to their
> > spiel, ask a bunch of stupid questions. I tried to make a game of it,
> > trying to see how long I can keep them on the line. The way I figure
> > it is that if they are talking to me they aren't hassling someone
> > else.
>
> A friend used a variant of your technique: when she gets a spam call she
> asks the operator how long does he need the conversation to last in order to
> get his bonus (their wage is based on actual sales and valid phone calls,
> where valid means "longer than 1 minutes" or alike) and then leaves the
> phone as it is for that amount of time. The only time which she'll put the
> phone down is when the operator continues trying to sell her something.
>
> Then someone used his brains and came out with the "Opposotions registry",
> where everybody can sign his phone numberwhich then gets on a list that
> phone-call marketers MUST check every month, and if they call a number which
> is there since a month or more they're liable for a penalty fee for every
> single call. In a thousand calls a day operation it would cost millions just
> for a day of calls to number on that list. I did it for my parents few years
> ago, they almost forgot how it was before. Now if they get a spam call it's
> always some new operations who still hasn't updated with the list, but this
> is a ridiculous amount of calls: they moved from 10-15 a week to less than
> one a month.
> --
> "Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
> Anthelme Brillat Savarin

In the US, we can file small claim lawsuits for each telemarketer who
doesn't behave, but for most of us, it's a lot easier to just
complain. People have collected on their claims, though...I think,the
claim limit in this particular process is somewhere up to $3000, but
I'm not sure.

N.

On May 3, 6:58*am, Brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >merryb wrote:
>
> >> I thought if you told them to take you off of their list, they had to.
>
> >Yes, that is what the law says. *But apparently, nobody is prosecuting
> >them very fast, or they just keep changing numbers. *Some will take
> >you off, but most don't give a damn. *That is why I encourage people
> >to file the FCC form online.
>
> Very easy to fill out the National Do Not Call Registry form... it can
> take up to three months to take effect but it does work, it stopped
> several marketers from phoning me. *And you do not need to know their
> name or number, all you need is the time of the call.https://www.donotcall.gov/

That's right...but I was talking about the complaint form, not the
Registry.

N.

On May 3, 7:41*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:29:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > I don't get calls from *live* telemarketers anymore. *But those darned
>
> > recorded calls haven't stopped. *"The F!B!I! reports there is a break-in
>
> > every 10 minutes" and other such foolishness. *Most of the time their
>
> > names and numbers aren't displayed. *So I've got no way to report them.
>
> > I've given up answering the phone. *And no, I'm not going to listen to
>
> > the recording then press 1 to get a live person on the line to ask them
>
> > to stop. *I seriously doubt they care. *And probably don't have any way
>
> > to control it even if they did care.
>
> > However, if anyone has any suggestions about how to rid myself of these
>
> > recorded nuisance calls I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> I press 1 with a few seconds, and when the person answers, I scream into
> the phone, then hang up. *The whole thing usually lasts less than 10 seconds.
>
>
>
> > Jill
>
> --Bryanhttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnmxz_vatican-femenist-protest_crea...

Blowing a police whistle (single tone) would do the same thing and
save your voice.

N.

On 5/3/2013 7:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Anyone who's annoyed by phone calls it's always their own fault, if
> they gave out their number to a private party then they need to expect
> them to phone... and telemarketer and other commercial calls are easy
> to eliminate with the National Do Not Call Registry.


When we moved here, we got a new number.... and apparently, the former
owner of this number was a dead beat. We have been here over a year and
we still get calls from collection agencies looking for "Jennifer Wright".

They say they will take you off the list, but that list gets sold around
to every collection agency on the planet so it may never really clear.

George L

jmcquown wrote:
>Cheri wrote:
>> I got a call today from a security company and since I know I'm listed
>> as a contact for my best friend, I answered. They said...don't hang up,
>> this is not a telemarketing call, and then they proceeded to tell me
>> that someone had given my name to them and they wanted to sell me a home
>> security, which is a telemarketing call. Lots of cheek, and I did hang up.
>
>The Do Not Call list doesn't stop the automatic
>dialers.
>
>Jill

It certainly does... that's primarilly what the Registry is meant to
do... auto dialers are the easiest to stop. The registry is designed
to stop commercial callers, not so easy to stop a private person from
calling you.

On 5/3/2013 9:43 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Cheri wrote:
>>> I got a call today from a security company and since I know I'm listed
>>> as a contact for my best friend, I answered. They said...don't hang up,
>>> this is not a telemarketing call, and then they proceeded to tell me
>>> that someone had given my name to them and they wanted to sell me a home
>>> security, which is a telemarketing call. Lots of cheek, and I did hang up.
>>
>> The Do Not Call list doesn't stop the automatic
>> dialers.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It certainly does... that's primarilly what the Registry is meant to
> do... auto dialers are the easiest to stop. The registry is designed
> to stop commercial callers, not so easy to stop a private person from
> calling you.
>
It certainly hasn't stopped the auto-dialed calls. I get pre-recorded
messages such as, "There is not a problem with your VISA account,
but..." (I don't have a freakin' VISA account!). The DNC list stopped
*humans* from making marketing calls to this number but not the
auto-dialed ones.

Jill

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/3/2013 7:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Anyone who's annoyed by phone calls it's always their own fault, if
>> they gave out their number to a private party then they need to expect
>> them to phone... and telemarketer and other commercial calls are easy
>> to eliminate with the National Do Not Call Registry.
>
>
> When we moved here, we got a new number.... and apparently, the former
> owner of this number was a dead beat. We have been here over a year and
> we still get calls from collection agencies looking for "Jennifer Wright".

That happened to us once too. In the end they had to change our number.

>
> They say they will take you off the list, but that list gets sold around
> to every collection agency on the planet so it may never really clear.

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On 5/3/2013 10:09 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 3 May 2013, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/3/2013 7:47 AM, heyjoe wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:23:21 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> having the phone ringing many times a day only to hear
>>>> <click> when the machine kicks in is driving me to distraction.
>>>
>>> So . . . turn the ringer on the telephone off. You'll still be able to
>>> hear the <click> and your intro message to alert you that someone is
>>> calling.
>>>
>>> Go the extra mile and start off your answering machine intro message
>>> with the phone company's tone that indicates the phone has been
>>> disconnected, then dead air for about five seconds before your message
>>> starts (google for the "phone has been disconnected" tone"). A couple
>>> of months of that will get you off a lot of call lists, with no effort
>>> on your part.
>>>
>>>
>> Now that's a good idea!
>
> but what about legitimate callers? won't they think your phone is
> disconnected, if they don't listen to the rest of the message?
>
Hmmm, yeah. Cute idea but it could confuse legitimate (business)
callers. Sometimes I do get out of state calls that are related to
banking, etc. and they wouldn't know what to make of it.

Jill

Nancy2 > wrote:
-snip-
>
>Blowing a police whistle (single tone) would do the same thing and
>save your voice.

I do that on occasion. I even got a call back from a supervisor
right after doing it warning me that there would be dire legal
consequences if I hurt one of his people. [I answered it just
because I couldn't believe their cheekiness.] He got a blast, too.
I'm still awaiting the lawsuit.

Jim

On Fri, 3 May 2013 15:09:20 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > When we moved here, we got a new number.... and apparently, the former
> > owner of this number was a dead beat. We have been here over a year and
> > we still get calls from collection agencies looking for "Jennifer Wright".
>
> That happened to us once too. In the end they had to change our number.
>
> >
> > They say they will take you off the list, but that list gets sold around
> > to every collection agency on the planet so it may never really clear.
>
>
Hubby's cell phone number is fine, never had an issue like that with
it. The problem he experiences is with people who misdial a friend or
relative's new telephone number. It's usually old people, probably
with poor eyesight, who do it - it goes on for weeks until they get
the correct number firmly in their head and their fingers know which
buttons to push.

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On Fri, 3 May 2013 06:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On May 3, 6:58*am, Brooklyn1 > wrote:
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>> >merryb wrote:
>>
>> >> I thought if you told them to take you off of their list, they had to.
>>
>> >Yes, that is what the law says. *But apparently, nobody is prosecuting
>> >them very fast, or they just keep changing numbers. *Some will take
>> >you off, but most don't give a damn. *That is why I encourage people
>> >to file the FCC form online.
>>
>> Very easy to fill out the National Do Not Call Registry form... it can
>> take up to three months to take effect but it does work, it stopped
>> several marketers from phoning me. *And you do not need to know their
>> name or number, all you need is the time of the call.
https://www.donotcall.gov/
>
>That's right...but I was talking about the complaint form, not the
>Registry.

You need to make yourself clear... you gave no link to any "the
complaint form"...

On Fri, 3 May 2013 06:40:05 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On May 3, 7:41*am, Bryan > wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:29:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> > I don't get calls from *live* telemarketers anymore. *But those darned
>>
>> > recorded calls haven't stopped. *"The F!B!I! reports there is a break-in
>>
>> > every 10 minutes" and other such foolishness. *Most of the time their
>>
>> > names and numbers aren't displayed. *So I've got no way to report them.
>>
>> > I've given up answering the phone. *And no, I'm not going to listen to
>>
>> > the recording then press 1 to get a live person on the line to ask them
>>
>> > to stop. *I seriously doubt they care. *And probably don't have any way
>>
>> > to control it even if they did care.
>>
>> > However, if anyone has any suggestions about how to rid myself of these
>>
>> > recorded nuisance calls I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> I press 1 with a few seconds, and when the person answers, I scream into
>> the phone, then hang up. *The whole thing usually lasts less than 10 seconds.
>
>Blowing a police whistle (single tone) would do the same thing and
>save your voice.

Blowing a police whistle... so that's what Bwrrryan calls it. hehe

On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:40:05 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 5/3/2013 7:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Anyone who's annoyed by phone calls it's always their own fault, if
>> they gave out their number to a private party then they need to expect
>> them to phone... and telemarketer and other commercial calls are easy
>> to eliminate with the National Do Not Call Registry.
>
>
>When we moved here, we got a new number.... and apparently, the former
>owner of this number was a dead beat. We have been here over a year and
>we still get calls from collection agencies looking for "Jennifer Wright".
>
>They say they will take you off the list, but that list gets sold around
>to every collection agency on the planet so it may never really clear.

The National Do Not Call Registry would have gotten you off that list
in way less than a year.

On 03/05/2013 6:04 AM, ViLco wrote:

> Then someone used his brains and came out with the "Opposotions registry",
> where everybody can sign his phone numberwhich then gets on a list that
> phone-call marketers MUST check every month, and if they call a number which
> is there since a month or more they're liable for a penalty fee for every
> single call. In a thousand calls a day operation it would cost millions just
> for a day of calls to number on that list. I did it for my parents few years
> ago, they almost forgot how it was before. Now if they get a spam call it's
> always some new operations who still hasn't updated with the list, but this
> is a ridiculous amount of calls: they moved from 10-15 a week to less than
> one a month.
>


I don't think it is a matter of them failing to update the list. It is
more like they just didn't bother with the list.

The way I figure it is that anyone in the telephone soliciting business
should be aware of the rules. They should now when calling Canada, for
instance, that there is is a Do No Call registry, and they they are not
allowed to call numbers on that registry unless they are one of the
exemptions. If they call me they are violating the law and thereby
demonstrating that they are not worthy of my business.

On 03/05/2013 9:00 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Sometimes I indulge them. I will wait for a person and listen to their
>> spiel, ask a bunch of stupid questions. I tried to make a game of it,
>> trying to see how long I can keep them on the line. The way I figure
>> it is that if they are talking to me they aren't hassling someone
>> else.
>
> Most marketing callers are female so occasionally I'd entertain myself
> by turning it into a XXX rated conversation... most hang up but
> amazingly some of those gals must do XXX rated calls as their primary
> job, they are very good at it.
>


In your dreams Sheldon.