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On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:24:33 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> >>
> >> We have streaky bacon (looks like yours) and we have back bacon which is
> >> very lean.
> >>
> >> This is what ours looks like:
> >>
> >> http://www.clancysofchester.co.uk/bacon.html

> >
> > Streaky is what ours is. I doubt that you would have Canadian bacon there
> > since they don't have it in Canada!

>
> Well we have what is described as Canadian bacon in the picture, but who
> knows. AH Yes... Sheila! My UK/USA guru)
>

I've often wondered why it's called "Canadian" bacon and came to the
conclusion that It's the old us vs them thing. They call it back or
peameal bacon depending on what they do with it, we call it Canadian
bacon when it's cured (we never coat it with cornmeal) and loin when
it's not. We use streaky bacon for breakfast and eat uncured loin
for dinner. Canadian bacon is a rare (and relatively expensive) treat
that I use instead of tomato for Eggs Benedict.

<shrug> We have regional terminology and foods (like scrapple and
flat "dumplings"), so we don't even have a common language among
ourselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiona...erican_English

There are no "French" windows, "French" doors or "French" fries in
France and no "Dutch" doors in the Netherlands. It probably used to
be a way people proclaimed their heritage, but the terms are just a
reminder of where they were common (at least when the terms
originated) now. This is a big country filled by people with roots
all over the world. If we gave them completely different names,
outsiders would still find a reason to complain. The back & forth
with Canadians is just good natured kidding because both of us are
nations of immigrants - except Canada still isn't fully independent.
What is a "self-governing independent sovereign state"? It's one that
can't cut the old apron strings.





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On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:05 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> Ok thanks. I haven't really had a problem (if I remember it right) with
> them being tough. It was more the overall dish I think. Perhaps I don't
> have a good recipe


I like my beans in bean soup to fall apart and thicken the soup. My
opinion is that no matter if you wanted to keep them whole or not, if
you didn't like them - you probably don't use enough salt. Use a
generous amount of grated (my preference) or diced onion, carrot,
celery. Add tomato in some form (canned, fresh, chopped, pureed or
anything in between) and anything else you like with beans.

Here's one recipe
http://cookeatshare.com/recipes/bean...ge-soup-660270

I try to keep some sort of bean in the freezer, which means I don't
need to start from scratch "every other time" I need beans. My
preferred beans are small white bean or pinto. I have many different
varieties on hand all the time, but those are my favorite - so I
usually have one of them, cooked whole and ready to go. At the
moment, pintos are in the freezer.

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>> Ok thanks. I haven't really had a problem (if I remember it right) with
>> them being tough. It was more the overall dish I think. Perhaps I don't
>> have a good recipe

>
> I like my beans in bean soup to fall apart and thicken the soup. My
> opinion is that no matter if you wanted to keep them whole or not, if
> you didn't like them - you probably don't use enough salt. Use a
> generous amount of grated (my preference) or diced onion, carrot,
> celery. Add tomato in some form (canned, fresh, chopped, pureed or
> anything in between) and anything else you like with beans.
>
> Here's one recipe
> http://cookeatshare.com/recipes/bean...ge-soup-660270



Is that loose sausage not in a casing? Does it not just about dissolve into
the soup? I don't fancy putting leaf greens in it, but apart from that it
does look good. I think I might work with that thanks


> I try to keep some sort of bean in the freezer, which means I don't
> need to start from scratch "every other time" I need beans. My
> preferred beans are small white bean or pinto. I have many different
> varieties on hand all the time, but those are my favorite - so I
> usually have one of them, cooked whole and ready to go. At the
> moment, pintos are in the freezer.


I might try it with canned beans. At least if we don't like it I haven't
spent hours on it)) Anyway, I have saved that, thanks
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On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:16:58 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> Is that loose sausage not in a casing?


I usually use loose sausage if I'm not planning to eat them whole.
The only things I can think of where I don't remove the casings is
cassoulet and Toad in the Hole.

> Does it not just about dissolve into the soup?


Not if you brown it in chunks.

> I don't fancy putting leaf greens in it, but apart from that it


Then don't! It's only a recipe, not the law. I'm just surprised
that you'd choose to eliminate greens and not noodles.

I'd cut back on the amount of water if the greens are eliminated,
mainly because I hate thin soup.

Here are some alternatives - use whatever sausage you like.

Summer Corn and White Bean Soup
http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/summ...0000001072136/

White Bean and Sausage Soup with Peppers
http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1748...246198,00.html

French Lentil Soup with Sausage
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...#ixzz0swpERwRi


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>>> Does it not just about dissolve into the soup?

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> Not if you brown it in chunks.


Ok that is what I was wondering ..


>> I don't fancy putting leaf greens in it, but apart from that it

>
> Then don't! It's only a recipe, not the law. I'm just surprised
> that you'd choose to eliminate greens and not noodles.


Hmm I might eliminate the noodles too ... it's only a recipe not the law
<eg>

> Here are some alternatives - use whatever sausage you like.
>
> Summer Corn and White Bean Soup
> http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/summ...0000001072136/
>
> White Bean and Sausage Soup with Peppers
> http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1748...246198,00.html


These two are saved in my file!!! Thanks)

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On Mon, 13 May 2013 22:11:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> > > Here are some alternatives - use whatever sausage you like.

> >
> > Summer Corn and White Bean Soup
> > http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/summ...0000001072136/
> >
> > White Bean and Sausage Soup with Peppers
> > http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1748...246198,00.html

>
> These two are saved in my file!!! Thanks)


I wondered if your dislike of lentils extended to the French and
Umbrian types too. Now I know. LOL!

I just want to know what those poor, defenseless, little lentils ever
did to offend you?

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I can't say I have ever seen maple smoked, but I'm on the west coast.
It would likely be alder smoked around here! I'm sure anything would
be better than that unnatural maple flavoring- yuk!

We have maple smoked here.


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> On Mon, 13 May 2013 22:11:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>> > > Here are some alternatives - use whatever sausage you like.
>> >
>> > Summer Corn and White Bean Soup
>> > http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/summ...0000001072136/
>> >
>> > White Bean and Sausage Soup with Peppers
>> > http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1748...246198,00.html

>>
>> These two are saved in my file!!! Thanks)

>
> I wondered if your dislike of lentils extended to the French and
> Umbrian types too. Now I know. LOL!
>
> I just want to know what those poor, defenseless, little lentils ever
> did to offend you?


Hmmm better not tell ...

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On 5/13/2013 12:49 PM, merryb wrote:
> On May 13, 7:09 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 5/13/2013 7:19 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> merryb > wrote:

>>
>>> -snip-

>>
>>>> sf mentioned maple flavored- don't use that nasty stuff for beans.
>>>> Just smoked is what you would for this...

>>
>>> I agree that I wouldn't use 'maple *flavored*' --- But if you see some
>>> 'Maple smoked'- [or 'hickory smoked'] - that would be worth the extra
>>> cost.

>>
>>> Both are *old*, not new, 'flavors'.

>>
>>> When I did my own it was a cure with salt, sugar and saltpeter. The
>>> smoke was usually maple- but sometimes hickory. It tasted nothing
>>> like the maple syrup injected stuff that is available in most
>>> groceries.

>>
>>> Jim

>>
>> I agree, Jim. I made the mistake of buying maple bacon once and it
>> wasn't "maple smoked". It tasted like syrup. No thanks to that!
>>
>> Jill

>
> And not good syrup either! I did the exact same thing as you, and was
> not happy when I realized what I had bought.
>

It smelled heavenly when it was cooking, but who wants bacon to taste
sweet? If I want it to taste like maple syrup, I'd drizzle maple syrup
on it after I cooked it!

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On Tue, 14 May 2013 08:53:05 -0400, jmcquown >
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> It smelled heavenly when it was cooking, but who wants bacon to taste
> sweet? If I want it to taste like maple syrup, I'd drizzle maple syrup
> on it after I cooked it!
>

You must have different choices because I always wonder why they
bother to put "maple" on the package. I don't smell or taste it with
the bacon. Like I said before, I get a little bit of the sweet maple
flavor with those sausages, but that brand is well known for adding
forms of sugar to their sausage mix - so them's the breaks. <shrug>
Don't like it? Don't buy it.

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On 5/14/2013 10:29 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 08:53:05 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
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>>>

>> It smelled heavenly when it was cooking, but who wants bacon to taste
>> sweet? If I want it to taste like maple syrup, I'd drizzle maple syrup
>> on it after I cooked it!
>>

> You must have different choices because I always wonder why they
> bother to put "maple" on the package. I don't smell or taste it with
> the bacon. Like I said before, I get a little bit of the sweet maple
> flavor with those sausages, but that brand is well known for adding
> forms of sugar to their sausage mix - so them's the breaks. <shrug>
> Don't like it? Don't buy it.
>

As I mentioned upthread, I thought it was maple *smoked* bacon, not
injected with (?) faux maple syrup.

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On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:09:53 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
>
> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't noticed
>
> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
>
> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I am
>
> eating some now and apparently easily amused!


They're not that nutritous anyway, so who cares?
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> On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:09:53 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
>>
>> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't
>> noticed
>>
>> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
>>
>> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I am
>>
>> eating some now and apparently easily amused!

>
> They're not that nutritous anyway, so who cares?


Why do you say that?


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> On Tue, 7 May 2013 21:09:53 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
>> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't
>> noticed
>> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
>> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I am
>> eating some now and apparently easily amused!

>
> Who would have known that 'Squeaky Green Beans' would get 160
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Green beans rock!


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>> On Tue, 7 May 2013 21:09:53 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
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>>> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
>>> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't
>>> noticed
>>> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
>>> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I
>>> am
>>> eating some now and apparently easily amused!

>>
>> Who would have known that 'Squeaky Green Beans' would get 160
>> followups?
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> Green beans rock!


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On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+12, Julie Bove wrote:
> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't noticed
> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I am
> eating some now and apparently easily amused!


Hi yall,

Longtime bean freak here.
It's been a lifelong struggle really. Absolutely can't stand the squeak!
Its like someones rubbing a balloon inside your mouth.

Quite an odd thing to tell someone too as to why you're not eating their beans.
Happy to know I'm not the only one


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> Perhaps, but the OP is a Google user replying to a three year old post.

Yes.

> Personally I've never had a problem with squeaky green beans.


I have and it's awful. It's worse than someone squeaking a balloon.

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> Janet US


Opposite for me. This is the first time I've ever heard that cottage
cheese can squeak, but I have experienced green bean squeak.

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On 10/2/2016 1:07 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:36:29 -0600, Janet B >
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>> I know about cheese curd squeak but not bean squeak.
>> Janet US

>
> Opposite for me. This is the first time I've ever heard that cottage
> cheese can squeak, but I have experienced green bean squeak.
>

Not cottage cheese but the larger, dryer curds that might go on poutine.
I once tried some low fat cheddar-type cheese and experienced the same
squeekiness.
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On 2016-10-02 7:28 PM, graham wrote:
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>> Opposite for me. This is the first time I've ever heard that cottage
>> cheese can squeak, but I have experienced green bean squeak.
>>

> Not cottage cheese but the larger, dryer curds that might go on poutine.
> I once tried some low fat cheddar-type cheese and experienced the same
> squeekiness.



The fresh cheese curds used in poutine are also called squeaky cheese.
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On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 at 12:09:53 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> Does this bother you? Do you notice it? I had a friend who said he
> couldn't eat them because the squeaking bothered him. And I hadn't noticed
> it until he said it. Of course they won't squeak if they are cooked to
> mush, but fresh or frozen ones often will squeak when you eat them. I am
> eating some now and apparently easily amused!


If you pick the green beans during a full moon they won't squeak.
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>> Perhaps, but the OP is a Google user replying to a three year old post.
>> Personally I've never had a problem with squeaky green beans.

>
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>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:13:59 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
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>>> Perhaps, but the OP is a Google user replying to a three year old post.
>>> Personally I've never had a problem with squeaky green beans.

>>
>> Bove. The gift that keeps on giving long after she's been gone.
>>
>> -sw

>
>I bet you just about wet your pants with joy when you had a reason to
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>F Murtz wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>> >joshmehrten wrote:
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>> >> Longtime bean freak here.
>> >> It's been a lifelong struggle really. Absolutely can't stand the squeak!
>> >> Its like someones rubbing a balloon inside your mouth.
>> >
>> > You say that like it's a bad thing.
>> >
>> >> Quite an odd thing to tell someone too as to why you're not eating
>> >> their beans. Happy to know I'm not the only one
>> >
>> > I love green beans, the squeak doesn't bother me. My mother
>> > used to serve wax beans (canned, naturally) and I feel like
>> > I noticed it more with those. Still didn't care even though
>> > they weren't my favorite.

>>
>> How do you make beans squeak ? mine don't

>
>Undercook them. I like them cooked just past the point of squeaking,
>but if I undershoot the time a little, I just live with it. I can't
>abide fully cooked green beans. They've still got to be bright green.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


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On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 20:44:35 +1000, F Murtz >
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> Nancy Young wrote:
> >
> > I love green beans, the squeak doesn't bother me. My mother
> > used to serve wax beans (canned, naturally) and I feel like
> > I noticed it more with those. Still didn't care even though
> > they weren't my favorite.
> >
> > nancy
> >

>
> How do you make beans squeak ? mine don't


They're not mushy, and usually steamed - so there's no grease to keep
them from squeaking.


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On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:13:25 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 20:44:35 +1000, F Murtz >
>wrote:
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>> Nancy Young wrote:
>> >
>> > I love green beans, the squeak doesn't bother me. My mother
>> > used to serve wax beans (canned, naturally) and I feel like
>> > I noticed it more with those. Still didn't care even though
>> > they weren't my favorite.
>> >
>> > nancy
>> >

>>
>> How do you make beans squeak ? mine don't

>
>They're not mushy, and usually steamed - so there's no grease to keep
>them from squeaking.


No grease on my beans and they don't squeak. I steam or simmer mine
until fork tender. They are still bright green and al dente, not
mushy. I don't like crunchy green beans. Cooking is probably the
difference between squeak and no squeak.
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:13:28 -0600, Janet B >
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> On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:13:25 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 20:44:35 +1000, F Murtz >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Nancy Young wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I love green beans, the squeak doesn't bother me. My mother
> >> > used to serve wax beans (canned, naturally) and I feel like
> >> > I noticed it more with those. Still didn't care even though
> >> > they weren't my favorite.
> >> >
> >> > nancy
> >> >
> >>
> >> How do you make beans squeak ? mine don't

> >
> >They're not mushy, and usually steamed - so there's no grease to keep
> >them from squeaking.

>
> No grease on my beans and they don't squeak. I steam or simmer mine
> until fork tender. They are still bright green and al dente, not
> mushy. I don't like crunchy green beans. Cooking is probably the
> difference between squeak and no squeak.
> Janet US


Yes. I won't eat regular green beans unless they're cooked from
frozen. Haricots verts don't squeak, Blue Lake are pretty good too.
The thinner the better - but over all, I tend to avoid fresh green
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