On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>

I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>> costing as much as that.
>>
>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>
>
> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>
I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone
who says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>
>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>
>>
>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>
> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>
> Jill

being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.

Pico Rico wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>>
>>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>>
>> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
>> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
>> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>>
>> Jill
>
> being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.

Ronald Reagan made ketchup a vegetable

On 5/8/2013 5:13 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>>>
>>>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>>>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>>>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>>>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>>>
>>> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
>>> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
>>> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.
>
> Ronald Reagan made ketchup a vegetable
>
I use a lot of Heinz type ketchup (the Giant brand is indistinguishable)
but even I don't call it a vegetable. I suppose a Korean might eat
enough Kimchi to regard that as a veg :-)

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

jmcquown wrote:
> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit,
> either, even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't
> know anyone who says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"

I had a small salad and some refried legume tacos. They were quite tasty.

On Wed, 08 May 2013 15:28:33 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

>On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>> costing as much as that.
>>
>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>
>
>I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.

I'm a gardener, so beans are vegetables. I'm ok with the part of the
tomato that I eat being a fruit-- but I call the entire plant a
vegetable. I can't decide on rhubarb, though. Seems like it
should be a fruit because I make sweet pies with it--- but now I'm
doing a lot more savory things, so maybe it *is* a vegetable.

Jim