Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
$4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
costing as much as that.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On May 8, 8:51*am, James Silverton >
wrote:
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> costing as much as that.
> --
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
> Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

Did you buy any?

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for $4
> a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so that's
> about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus costing
> as much as that.
> --

Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand. Maybe foie
gras? They seem to grow like weeds in Italy; every otherwise not occupied
nook and cranny has fava growing. But here, they are just so "today".

On 5/8/2013 11:53 AM, merryb wrote:
> On May 8, 8:51 am, James Silverton >
> wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>> --
>> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>>
>> Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
>
> Did you buy any?
>
I quite like most beans but not at that price!

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

Pico Rico wrote:

> Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand.

The common term is "food fad".

> They seem to grow like weeds in Italy; every otherwise not occupied
> nook and cranny has fava growing. But here, they are just so "today".

Before you buy them, look into how much work is involved in preparing them.
That alone turned me away from trying them.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand.
>
> The common term is "food fad".
>
>> They seem to grow like weeds in Italy; every otherwise not occupied
>> nook and cranny has fava growing. But here, they are just so "today".
>
> Before you buy them, look into how much work is involved in preparing
> them.
> That alone turned me away from trying them.
>
>

I have knocked out a case or two at a time, for a dinner seating of a few
hundred. So, for a normal meal or crowd, it would be child's play. Sure, a
bit more work than cutting open a bag of frozen beans of some sort.

On 5/8/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> costing as much as that.

Maybe they're Magic Beans.

Jill

On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:14:08 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Pico Rico wrote:
> >
> >> Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand.
> >
> > The common term is "food fad".
> >
> >> They seem to grow like weeds in Italy; every otherwise not occupied
> >> nook and cranny has fava growing. But here, they are just so "today".
> >
> > Before you buy them, look into how much work is involved in preparing
> > them.
> > That alone turned me away from trying them.
> >
> >
>
> I have knocked out a case or two at a time, for a dinner seating of a few
> hundred. So, for a normal meal or crowd, it would be child's play. Sure, a
> bit more work than cutting open a bag of frozen beans of some sort.
>
You took off two sets of shells for a couple of hundred people and
called it child's play? I did that exactly once just for the two of
us and decided that I would buy packaged/frozen if I ever wanted to
cook fava beans again.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:54:28 AM UTC-4, Pico Rico wrote:
>
> Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand. Maybe foie
>
> gras?

Time was, they were a poor man's meal, like mussels found for free were.

On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:54:28 AM UTC-4, Pico Rico wrote:
> >
> > Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand. Maybe foie
> >
> > gras?
>
> Time was, they were a poor man's meal, like mussels found for free were.

and lobster too

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 08/05/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> costing as much as that.


How are their fiddlehead prices? Those things are usually pretty pricey
here. Luckily there is very little waste to them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:14:08 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Pico Rico wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fava beans are the new ___. I can't think of anything off hand.
>> >
>> > The common term is "food fad".
>> >
>> >> They seem to grow like weeds in Italy; every otherwise not occupied
>> >> nook and cranny has fava growing. But here, they are just so "today".
>> >
>> > Before you buy them, look into how much work is involved in preparing
>> > them.
>> > That alone turned me away from trying them.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I have knocked out a case or two at a time, for a dinner seating of a few
>> hundred. So, for a normal meal or crowd, it would be child's play.
>> Sure, a
>> bit more work than cutting open a bag of frozen beans of some sort.
>>
> You took off two sets of shells for a couple of hundred people and
> called it child's play?

no, I did not say that.

On 5/8/2013 1:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
>
> How are their fiddlehead prices? Those things are usually pretty pricey
> here. Luckily there is very little waste to them.

Love fiddleheads! I've heard of, but have never encountered, *frozen*
fiddleheads. I'd love to find some. (I'm not about to order frozen
food online.)

Jill

On May 8, 1:20*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>
> > Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> > $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> > that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> > costing as much as that.
>
> How are their fiddlehead prices? Those things are usually pretty pricey
> here. *Luckily there is very little waste to them.

I just saw them this morning for $10 a pound (!) at Lull Farm in
Hollis, New Hampshire.

I like 'em. I just don't like 'em *that* much!

They used to grow wild in a shady wet part of my back yard, but I
discovered the "cut off only 3 of the 7 fronds so they'll have enough
left to propagate" directive too late, so now none grow there :-(

--
Silvar Beitel

--
Silvar Beitel

James Silverton wrote:
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> costing as much as that.

this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>

thank you for meeting our obligation, as you correctly noted. I was
beginning to wonder what was going on here!

On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>
ROFL!

Jill

On 5/8/2013 1:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
>
> How are their fiddlehead prices? Those things are usually pretty pricey
> here. Luckily there is very little waste to them.

I've never noticed them but I will look!

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>

I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>> costing as much as that.
>>
>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>
>
> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>
I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone
who says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>
>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>
>>
>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>
> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>
> Jill

being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.

Pico Rico wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>>
>>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>>
>> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
>> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
>> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>>
>> Jill
>
> being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.

Ronald Reagan made ketchup a vegetable

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>> costing as much as that.
>
> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>
and being Usenet you could have used the shorter "obliged" instead of
"obligated" {;-)

On 5/8/2013 5:13 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/8/2013 3:28 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>>>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>>>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>>>>> costing as much as that.
>>>>>
>>>>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>>>> definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>>>> grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>>>> might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.
>>>>
>>> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit, either,
>>> even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't know anyone who
>>> says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> being a legume is not what makes it not a vegetable.
>
> Ronald Reagan made ketchup a vegetable
>
I use a lot of Heinz type ketchup (the Giant brand is indistinguishable)
but even I don't call it a vegetable. I suppose a Korean might eat
enough Kimchi to regard that as a veg :-)

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Wed, 08 May 2013 15:28:33 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

>On 5/8/2013 2:44 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
>>> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
>>> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
>>> costing as much as that.
>>
>> this being Usenet I'm obligated to note that beans are not vegetables
>>
>
>I'm not going to ask your definition but in mine they certainly are! My
>definition depends on their use: fruits, vegetables, meats, fishes and
>grains. To avoid misunderstanding, a tomato is a vegetable to me and I
>might have a subset of vegetables to include salad greens.

I'm a gardener, so beans are vegetables. I'm ok with the part of the
tomato that I eat being a fruit-- but I call the entire plant a
vegetable. I can't decide on rhubarb, though. Seems like it
should be a fruit because I make sweet pies with it--- but now I'm
doing a lot more savory things, so maybe it *is* a vegetable.

Jim

James Silverton wrote:
> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling
> for $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain
> so that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even
> asparagus costing as much as that.

That does seem high! Luckily for me those are one bean I can live without.
I didn't try them until recently. Got a taste of a salad with them in it at
Whole Foods. They were kind of meh.

jmcquown wrote:
> I hear what you're saying. I don't think of tomatoes as fruit,
> either, even if they are. Technically beans are legumes. I don't
> know anyone who says, "We're having legumes with dinner tonight!"

I had a small salad and some refried legume tacos. They were quite tasty.

In article >,
James Silverton > wrote:

> On 5/8/2013 1:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 08/05/2013 11:51 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> >> Admittedly it was in a "gourmet" store but I saw Fava beans selling for
> >> $4 a pound. The pods must weigh as much as the beans they contain so
> >> that's about $8 a pound for a vegetable! I've never seen even asparagus
> >> costing as much as that.
> >
> >
> > How are their fiddlehead prices? Those things are usually pretty pricey
> > here. Luckily there is very little waste to them.
>
> I've never noticed them but I will look!

Fiddleheads were $12.99 at the produce market near me. Can't imagine
they'd be so delicious as to be worth that price. I didn't pay any
attention to the price of fava beans - they are a lot of work to shell
and shell again.

marcella

On May 8, 9:54*pm, Marcella Peek > wrote:

>
> Fiddleheads were $12.99 at the produce market near me. Can't imagine
> they'd be so delicious as to be worth that price. *I didn't pay any
> attention to the price of fava beans - they are a lot of work to shell
> and shell again.
>
> marcella

Favas are nice. But like you, I don't think they are worth the
trouble. I have found that I like the big fat frozen Fordhook lima
beans best of all.
The only place I can find them is at Safeway. They are labeled
Fordhook Lima Beans. They are tender and juicy and not dry or mealy
at all if you don't overcook them. I just lightly cook them in a
little water and then add butter and some seasoning to have them alone
as a side dish and I love them in soups and other dishes.

On 5/9/2013 10:18 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On May 8, 9:54 pm, Marcella Peek > wrote:
>
>>
>> Fiddleheads were $12.99 at the produce market near me. Can't imagine
>> they'd be so delicious as to be worth that price. I didn't pay any
>> attention to the price of fava beans - they are a lot of work to shell
>> and shell again.
>>
>> marcella
>
> Favas are nice. But like you, I don't think they are worth the
> trouble. I have found that I like the big fat frozen Fordhook lima
> beans best of all.

I *love* those frozen Fordhook limas!

> The only place I can find them is at Safeway. They are labeled
> Fordhook Lima Beans. They are tender and juicy and not dry or mealy
> at all if you don't overcook them. I just lightly cook them in a
> little water and then add butter and some seasoning to have them alone
> as a side dish and I love them in soups and other dishes.
>
I buy the Publix brand Fordhook lima beans. I buy a couple of bags at a
time so I'll always have some on hand.

Jill

On 5/9/2013 10:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/9/2013 10:18 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On May 8, 9:54 pm, Marcella Peek > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fiddleheads were $12.99 at the produce market near me. Can't imagine
>>> they'd be so delicious as to be worth that price. I didn't pay any
>>> attention to the price of fava beans - they are a lot of work to shell
>>> and shell again.
>>>
>>> marcella
>>
>> Favas are nice. But like you, I don't think they are worth the
>> trouble. I have found that I like the big fat frozen Fordhook lima
>> beans best of all.
>
> I *love* those frozen Fordhook limas!
>
>> The only place I can find them is at Safeway. They are labeled
>> Fordhook Lima Beans. They are tender and juicy and not dry or mealy
>> at all if you don't overcook them. I just lightly cook them in a
>> little water and then add butter and some seasoning to have them alone
>> as a side dish and I love them in soups and other dishes.
>>
> I buy the Publix brand Fordhook lima beans. I buy a couple of bags at a
> time so I'll always have some on hand.
>
> Jill

I like frozen Lima beans too and, come to think of it, I don't think
I've ever had fresh ones. Even as a child, I regarded shelling peas and
beans to be a real chore and I never cook any but frozen ones. That's
not quite true I guess since I do eat canned beans and cook dried
lentils for Indian food; dals in general.


--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 5/9/2013 10:40 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 5/9/2013 10:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/9/2013 10:18 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> On May 8, 9:54 pm, Marcella Peek > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fiddleheads were $12.99 at the produce market near me. Can't imagine
>>>> they'd be so delicious as to be worth that price. I didn't pay any
>>>> attention to the price of fava beans - they are a lot of work to shell
>>>> and shell again.
>>>>
>>>> marcella
>>>
>>> Favas are nice. But like you, I don't think they are worth the
>>> trouble. I have found that I like the big fat frozen Fordhook lima
>>> beans best of all.
>>
>> I *love* those frozen Fordhook limas!
>>
>>> The only place I can find them is at Safeway. They are labeled
>>> Fordhook Lima Beans. They are tender and juicy and not dry or mealy
>>> at all if you don't overcook them. I just lightly cook them in a
>>> little water and then add butter and some seasoning to have them alone
>>> as a side dish and I love them in soups and other dishes.
>>>
>> I buy the Publix brand Fordhook lima beans. I buy a couple of bags at a
>> time so I'll always have some on hand.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I like frozen Lima beans too and, come to think of it, I don't think
> I've ever had fresh ones. Even as a child, I regarded shelling peas and
> beans to be a real chore and I never cook any but frozen ones. That's
> not quite true I guess since I do eat canned beans and cook dried
> lentils for Indian food; dals in general.
>
>
When I was about eight or 9 I planted a row or two of small lima beans.
It was some sort of school experiment. I remember shelling and then
"dissecting" (bisecting) the mature bean to show it contained a little
plant sprouting inside of it. I guess this was so we'd understand how
plants reproduce from the seeds we call beans.

Jill

On Thu, 09 May 2013 10:22:46 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

snip
>
>I *love* those frozen Fordhook limas!
>
>> The only place I can find them is at Safeway. They are labeled
>> Fordhook Lima Beans. They are tender and juicy and not dry or mealy
>> at all if you don't overcook them. I just lightly cook them in a
>> little water and then add butter and some seasoning to have them alone
>> as a side dish and I love them in soups and other dishes.
>>
>I buy the Publix brand Fordhook lima beans. I buy a couple of bags at a
>time so I'll always have some on hand.
>
>Jill

I do too. Sometimes I will cook them with a pinch of sugar and at the
end add an equal amount of frozen corn and a can of diced chiles. (or
you could go with pimento)
Janet US

On May 9, 12:45*pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:

The think that cracks me up about fava beans is that, in this country,
they were grown as a nitrogen fixing ground cover and cattle feed.

When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".

Thanks but the lowly lima does the same thing for me.

On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On May 9, 12:45 pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
> The think that cracks me up about fava beans is that, in this country,
> they were grown as a nitrogen fixing ground cover and cattle feed.
>
> When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".
>
> Thanks but the lowly lima does the same thing for me.
>


Oh? I have never had them, but thanks for the warning.

On May 9, 1:36*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 12:45 pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
> > The think that cracks me up about fava beans is that, in this country,
> > they were grown as a nitrogen fixing ground cover and cattle feed.
>
> > When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".
>
> > Thanks but the lowly lima does the same thing for me.
>
> Oh? I have never had them, but thanks for the warning.

Not a warning. Those fordhook lima beans are terrific.

On 2013-05-09, ImStillMags > wrote:

> When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".

All because of Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs.

The two expensive veggies that irk me are fennel and Belgian endive.
My late brother's girlfriend was a native Belgian and she was outraged
at the price of B-endive in the US, which typically sells for close to
$5 lb. She said it was about $.45 lb in Belgium. She showed me a
classic Belgian dish of endive wrapped in ham strips and
smothered/cooked in a comté cheese béchemel sauce. Likewise with
fennel. You'd think the damn root was saffron from the price.
grrrrrr.....

Oh, another is rapini, or broccoli rabé, if you can even find it.
You'd think it was white asparagus instead of the weed it actually
is.

nb

On 5/9/2013 7:25 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On May 9, 1:36 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>
>>> On May 9, 12:45 pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>>
>>> The think that cracks me up about fava beans is that, in this country,
>>> they were grown as a nitrogen fixing ground cover and cattle feed.
>>
>>> When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".
>>
>>> Thanks but the lowly lima does the same thing for me.
>>
>> Oh? I have never had them, but thanks for the warning.
>
> Not a warning. Those fordhook lima beans are terrific.
>
Agreed, I love fordhook limas. I've never had fava beans and at this
rate (and price) probably never will. I can't miss what I've never had.
I definitely won't miss shelling them.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/9/2013 7:25 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On May 9, 1:36 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 9, 12:45 pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The think that cracks me up about fava beans is that, in this country,
>>>> they were grown as a nitrogen fixing ground cover and cattle feed.
>>>
>>>> When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".
>>>
>>>> Thanks but the lowly lima does the same thing for me.
>>>
>>> Oh? I have never had them, but thanks for the warning.
>>
>> Not a warning. Those fordhook lima beans are terrific.
>>
> Agreed, I love fordhook limas. I've never had fava beans and at this rate
> (and price) probably never will. I can't miss what I've never had. I
> definitely won't miss shelling them.

You are not alone ... (but then I've never had any (nor even heard of)
fordhook beans either

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On 5/9/2013 7:36 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-05-09, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>> When the high end chefs started using them they became "trendy".
>
> All because of Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs.
>
> The two expensive veggies that irk me are fennel and Belgian endive.
> My late brother's girlfriend was a native Belgian and she was outraged
> at the price of B-endive in the US, which typically sells for close to
> $5 lb. She said it was about $.45 lb in Belgium. She showed me a
> classic Belgian dish of endive wrapped in ham strips and
> smothered/cooked in a comté cheese béchemel sauce. Likewise with
> fennel. You'd think the damn root was saffron from the price.
> grrrrrr.....
>
> Oh, another is rapini, or broccoli rabé, if you can even find it.
> You'd think it was white asparagus instead of the weed it actually
> is.
>

Yes, endive and fennel are expensive but I don't like them enough to be
tempted, nor do I even remember what they cost.


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Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

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