Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
I used to seal jam jars with it.
The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
the same any more.

On May 10, 1:31*am, F Murtz > wrote:
> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> the same any more.

What is "pe?"

Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
it in place.

Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.

N.

On May 10, 9:05*am, Sqwertz >
> Polyethelene, I assume.
>
> > Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? *Cellophane here in the US has
> > been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. *You
> > couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
> > it in place.
>
> Really. *It wouldn't work any better than a lid.
>
> -sw

No. Cellophane is a cellulose product.

On May 10, 8:44*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
>
> What is "pe?"
>
> Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? *Cellophane here in the US has
> been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. *You
> couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
> it in place.
>
> Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
>
> N.


No. Cellophane is a cellulose product.
http://www.richardfisher.com

"F Murtz" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> the same any more.

cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.

On 5/10/2013 9:53 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>> the same any more.
>
> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>
>
You mean Mr. Cellophane?

nancy

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 10 May 2013 06:53:34 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>
> BTW, I think you mean polypropylene, not polyethylene.
>
>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>> the same any more.
>>
>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>
> And it wasn't an Australian word/trademark. It's 100% European.
>


not true. The trademark was used "all over" the world, and remains a
trademark in certain countries.

On May 10, 2:31*am, F Murtz > wrote:
> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> the same any more.

"Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)

I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.

--
Silvar Beitel

On 5/10/2013 10:51 AM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>
> "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
> made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
> Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>
> I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel
>
I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.

Jill

On May 10, 11:00*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 10:51 AM, Silvar Beitel wrote:> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
> >> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> >> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> >> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>
> > "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
> > made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
> > Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>
> > I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>
> > --
> > Silvar Beitel
>
> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>
> Jill

Agree.

I have seen colored cellophane used as decoration under the bands and
over the lids of home-canned stuff for gifts. Or just ribbon-tied
over the lidded jar. Perhaps that's the OP's intention? F Murtz?

--
Silvar Beitel

On Fri, 10 May 2013 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:

>On May 10, 2:31*am, F Murtz > wrote:
>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>> the same any more.
>
>"Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
>made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
>Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...0&t=1368199050

Origin of CELLOPHANE

French, from cellulose + -phane (as in diaphane diaphanous, from
Medieval Latin diaphanus)
First Known Use: 1912

Silvar Beitel wrote:> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz
> wrote:
>> >> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> >> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> >> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>
>> > "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
>> > made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
>> > Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)

Cellophane in many colors is readily available.
http://www.papermart.com/Product%20P...?GroupID=11956
http://inventors.about.com/od/cstart...Cellophane.htm

On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>
>

My mother used to recycle jars for jam. She would seal the jars with
paraffin wax and then put a piece of cellophane over the mouth and screw
the top on. It did a pretty good job of keeping the jars sealed.

Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 9:53 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>> the same any more.
>>
>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>>
>>
> You mean Mr. Cellophane?
>
> nancy


Never even know he's there.

--
Bob

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/10/2013 9:53 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>> the same any more.
>>
>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>>
>>
> You mean Mr. Cellophane?
>
> nancy

no. You are confusing this matter with Mr. Potatohead.

On May 10, 9:26*am, Nancy Young > wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 9:53 AM, Pico Rico wrote:> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> >> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> >> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
> >> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> >> the same any more.
>
> > cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>
> You mean Mr. Cellophane?
>
> nancy

....one of my favorite movies, ever. LOL.

N.

On May 10, 9:51*am, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
> On May 10, 2:31*am, F Murtz > wrote:
>
> > Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> > I used to seal jam jars with it.
> > The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe..
> > I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> > the same any more.
>
> "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
> made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
> Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>
> I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel

One certainly couldn't "seal" jelly or jam with it, though.

N.

On May 10, 10:12*am, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
> On May 10, 11:00*am, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/10/2013 10:51 AM, Silvar Beitel wrote:> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
> > >> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> > >> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> > >> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>
> > > "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
> > > made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
> > > Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>
> > > I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>
> > > --
> > > Silvar Beitel
>
> > I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> > have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>
> > Jill
>
> Agree.
>
> I have seen colored cellophane used as decoration under the bands and
> over the lids of home-canned stuff for gifts. *Or just ribbon-tied
> over the lidded jar. *Perhaps that's the OP's intention? *F Murtz?
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel

It's main use today I think is wrapping big baskets of fruit, like for
Christmas, or gifts like bath or baby products...a wrapping paper.

N.

On May 10, 10:56*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> > have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>
> My mother used to recycle jars for jam. She would seal the jars with
> paraffin wax and then put a piece of cellophane over the mouth and screw
> the top on. It did a pretty good job of keeping the jars sealed.

The paraffin sealed them; the cellophane was just decorative.

N.

On 10/05/2013 4:25 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On May 10, 10:56 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
>>> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>>
>> My mother used to recycle jars for jam. She would seal the jars with
>> paraffin wax and then put a piece of cellophane over the mouth and screw
>> the top on. It did a pretty good job of keeping the jars sealed.
>
> The paraffin sealed them; the cellophane was just decorative.
>

The paraffin was not always a perfect seal. I guess she thought she was
doubling up on the seal.

On 5/10/2013 6:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 10/05/2013 4:25 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> On May 10, 10:56 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>> On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
>>>> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>>> My mother used to recycle jars for jam. She would seal the jars with
>>> paraffin wax and then put a piece of cellophane over the mouth and screw
>>> the top on. It did a pretty good job of keeping the jars sealed.
>>
>> The paraffin sealed them; the cellophane was just decorative.
>>
> The paraffin was not always a perfect seal. I guess she thought she was
> doubling up on the seal.
>
Some people seal the top with waxed-paper disks, then cover with
cellophane - <http://www.lakeland.co.uk/p3830/Jam-Pot-Covers>

On Fri, 10 May 2013 11:20:02 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:



>
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...0&t=1368199050
>
>Origin of CELLOPHANE
>
>French, from cellulose + -phane (as in diaphane diaphanous, from
>Medieval Latin diaphanus)
>First Known Use: 1912
>

It took ten years for Brandenberger to perfect his film, his chief
improvement over earlier work with such films being to add glycerin to
soften the material. By 1912 he had constructed a machine to
manufacture the film, which he had named Cellophane, from the words
cellulose and diaphane ("transparent").

On Fri, 10 May 2013 07:50:15 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>

>>>
>>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>>
>> And it wasn't an Australian word/trademark. It's 100% European.
>>
>
>
>not true. The trademark was used "all over" the world, and remains a
>trademark in certain countries.
>

It started in Europe. Innovia Films in the UK owns the trademark, but
they did not start it, they bought it IIRC.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 10/05/2013 4:25 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > On May 10, 10:56 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >> On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> >>> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
> >>
> >> My mother used to recycle jars for jam. She would seal the jars with
> >> paraffin wax and then put a piece of cellophane over the mouth and screw
> >> the top on. It did a pretty good job of keeping the jars sealed.
> >
> > The paraffin sealed them; the cellophane was just decorative.
> >
>
> The paraffin was not always a perfect seal. I guess she thought she was
> doubling up on the seal.

In my youth, home made jams and marmalade were always covered with
just a wax-paper circle, then a cellophane circle fixed on with a rubber
band. You apply the cellophane while the jam was still hot and as it
cooled it shrank and the cellophane depressed tight with the vacuum. No
other lid. Lots of people here still do it that way.

All my marmalade and curd jars are recycled year after year, and I
recycle/re-use the metal screw tops too.I just use a wax-paper circle
and the screw top, no cellophane. We can buy new, pretty replacement
screw tops but I've never needed to yet :-) I prefer them because once
the jar is open and in use, a screw top is easier than fiddling with
cellophane and rubber bands.

The wax paper discs we buy here are often sold in a set with cellophane
tops and rubber bands.At home-produce shows I often see (and buy) them
sealed that way.

Janet UK

Nancy2 wrote:
> On May 10, 1:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>> the same any more.
>
> What is "pe?"
>
> Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
> been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
> couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
> it in place.
>
> Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
>
> N.
>
Almost all the "cellophane" sold now is not cellophane, it is
Polyethylene, cellophane is made from cellulose
To seal jam I used to wet cellophane with vinegar then place it on the
jar with an elastic band and as it dried it would shrink hollow making a
part vacuum, you can not do this with the plastic stuff.

On May 11, 3:56*am, Janet > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10/05/2013 4:25 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > On May 10, 10:56 am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> > >> On 10/05/2013 11:00 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > >>> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> > >>> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.

Pico Rico wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 10 May 2013 06:53:34 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>
>> BTW, I think you mean polypropylene, not polyethylene.
>>
>>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>>> the same any more.
>>>
>>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>>
>> And it wasn't an Australian word/trademark. It's 100% European.
>>
>
>
> not true. The trademark was used "all over" the world, and remains a
> trademark in certain countries.
>
>
Cellophane is the name given to the original celulose stuff invented by
this bloke.
Cellophane was invented by Swiss chemist Jacques E. Brandenberger while
employed by Blanchisserie et Teinturerie de Thaon.[1] In 1900, inspired
by seeing a wine spill on a restaurant's tablecloth, he decided to
create a cloth that could repel liquids rather than absorb them. His
first step was to spray a waterproof coating on to fabric, and he opted
to try viscose. The resultant coated fabric was far too stiff, but the
clear film easily separated from the backing cloth, and he abandoned his
original idea as the possibilities of the new material became apparent.

It took ten years for Brandenberger to perfect his film, his chief
improvement over earlier work with such films being to add glycerin to
soften the material. By 1912 he had constructed a machine to manufacture
the film, which he had named Cellophane, from the words cellulose and
diaphane ("transparent"). Cellophane was patented that year.[2] The
following year, the company Comptoir des Textiles Artificiels (CTA)
bought the Thaon firm's interest in Cellophane and established
Brandenberger in a new company, La Cellophane SA.[3]

The trademark is now used on non cellulose polyethylene effectively
taking the name from the real stuff and giving it to the plastic stuff.

This is what you can do with the real stuff.
To seal jam I used to wet cellophane with vinegar then place it on the
jar with an elastic band and as it dried it would shrink hollow making a
part vacuum, you can not do this with the plastic stuff.
I would like to know where to get more.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On May 10, 9:51 am, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
>> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>> the same any more.
>>
>> "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
>> made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
>> Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>>
>> I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>>
>> --
>> Silvar Beitel
>
> One certainly couldn't "seal" jelly or jam with it, though.
>
> N.
>
You can, see my recent posts

In article >, says...
>
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > On May 10, 1:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
> >> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
> >> I used to seal jam jars with it.
> >> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
> >> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
> >> the same any more.
> >
> > What is "pe?"
> >
> > Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
> > been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
> > couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
> > it in place.
> >
> > Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
> >
> > N.
> >
> Almost all the "cellophane" sold now is not cellophane, it is
> Polyethylene, cellophane is made from cellulose

Still cellulose cellophane in the UK

http://www.jamjarshop.com/shop/produ...atid=38&pid=64

I've just seen their very cute red and white spotty metal lids, may
be seriously tempted :-)

http://www.jamjarshop.com/buy/jarlid063x120/?catid=3

Janet.

On 5/11/2013 9:42 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>> On May 10, 1:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>>> the same any more.
>>>
>>> What is "pe?"
>>>
>>> Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
>>> been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
>>> couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
>>> it in place.
>>>
>>> Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>> Almost all the "cellophane" sold now is not cellophane, it is
>> Polyethylene, cellophane is made from cellulose
>
> Still cellulose cellophane in the UK
>
> http://www.jamjarshop.com/shop/produ...atid=38&pid=64
>
> I've just seen their very cute red and white spotty metal lids, may
> be seriously tempted :-)
>
> http://www.jamjarshop.com/buy/jarlid063x120/?catid=3
>
> Janet.
>
Those are cute! I like the red & white checkerboard, too.

Jill

In article >,
says...
>
> On 5/11/2013 9:42 AM, Janet wrote:

> > I've just seen their very cute red and white spotty metal lids, may
> > be seriously tempted :-)
> >
> > http://www.jamjarshop.com/buy/jarlid063x120/?catid=3
> >
> > Janet.
> >
> Those are cute! I like the red & white checkerboard, too.

I've already got a load of those :-).. they come on the brand of jam
whose jars I use.

Janet

Nancy2 > wrote:
> On May 10, 1:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>> the same any more.
>
> What is "pe?"
>
> Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
> been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
> couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to hold
> it in place.
>
> Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
>
> N.

Make it easy, use cellophane tape.

Greg

F Murtz wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>> On May 10, 1:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made
>>> from pe. I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which
>>> does not mean the same any more.
>>
>> What is "pe?"
>>
>> Do you mean paraffin, not cellophane? Cellophane here in the US has
>> been the same clear, papery crisp product since at least the 40s. You
>> couldn't seal anything with it without putting tape around it to
>> hold it in place.
>>
>> Paraffin is wax-like; I have used it to seal jellies and jams.
>>
>> N.
>>
> Almost all the "cellophane" sold now is not cellophane, it is
> Polyethylene, cellophane is made from cellulose
> To seal jam I used to wet cellophane with vinegar then place it on the
> jar with an elastic band and as it dried it would shrink hollow
> making a part vacuum, you can not do this with the plastic stuff.

You'd be better off doing it the safe way!

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 10 May 2013 06:53:34 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>
> BTW, I think you mean polypropylene, not polyethylene.
>
>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>> the same any more.
>>
>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>
> And it wasn't an Australian word/trademark. It's 100% European.
>
> -sw
>
Who said it was?

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 10 May 2013 07:50:15 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 10 May 2013 06:53:34 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:
>>>
>>>> "F Murtz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>>
>>> BTW, I think you mean polypropylene, not polyethylene.
>>>
>>>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>>>> the same any more.
>>>>
>>>> cellophane is/was a trademark, stolen from the trademark owner.
>>>
>>> And it wasn't an Australian word/trademark. It's 100% European.
>>>
>>
>> not true. The trademark was used "all over" the world, and remains a
>> trademark in certain countries.
>
> My point that it was not coined in AU. The way the OP phrases it
> implies that it was invented in Australia.

Did not,I said the word cellophane named by the inventor, was stolen
from us (The whole world us) like ***.
It is now used to describe a different substance IE Polyethylene not
celulose based
>
> There really isn't any generic word for cellophane. Not like jello,
> at least, which has "gelatin" (rarely used by consumers).
>
> -sw
>

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 10:51 AM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from pe.
>>
>> "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
>> made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
>> Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>>
>> I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>>
>> --
>> Silvar Beitel
>>
> I'm not someone who makes jam or has a need to seal jars, but as others
> have mentioned, it seems to me this stuff wouldn't seal worth a darn.
>
> Jill
No it does not,but real celulose cellophane does.

On 11/05/2013 14:02, F Murtz wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>> On May 10, 9:51 am, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
>>> On May 10, 2:31 am, F Murtz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know where to get real cellophane, AU pref.
>>>> I used to seal jam jars with it.
>>>> The modern stuff called celophane is not cellophane and is made from
>>>> pe.
>>>> I think it is an other word stolen from us like *** which does not mean
>>>> the same any more.
>>>
>>> "Cellophane" brings up 5200+ items on Amazon, most of which appear to
>>> made of real cellulose rather than LDPE like newer plastic wraps (Glad
>>> Wrap, Saran Wrap, etc.)
>>>
>>> I'm sure you could find rolls of the stuff in craft stores.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Silvar Beitel
>>
>> One certainly couldn't "seal" jelly or jam with it, though.
>>
>> N.
>>
> You can, see my recent posts
It used to be manufactured in a factory in Somerset, England, which has
now closed ( The factory that is, not the county or country) I bet the
locals were delighted, the pong was awful.

On 5/12/2013 5:16 AM, Broadback wrote:

> It used to be manufactured in a factory in Somerset, England, which has
> now closed ( The factory that is, not the county or country)

Heh.

> I bet the
> locals were delighted, the pong was awful.

As bad as paper mills? That's rough.

nancy

On 12/05/2013 12:39, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/12/2013 5:16 AM, Broadback wrote:
>
>> It used to be manufactured in a factory in Somerset, England, which has
>> now closed ( The factory that is, not the county or country)
>
> Heh.
>
> > I bet the
>> locals were delighted, the pong was awful.
>
> As bad as paper mills? That's rough.
>
> nancy
>
Far worse, there are also paper mills ( or were) in Somerset, these were
far less pungent.