On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:31:30 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> sf asks:
>
> > How can they be so crowded if they are really that bad?
>
> Gordon lauds her desserts in the program. Apparently she does one thing well.

I heard that too, but it didn't explain why they were so crowded when
they were supposedly so bad.
>
> A number of the Yelp reviews, pre-Gordon, indicate the place is empty,
> or that they are only one of two couple or some such.

Aha. Okay, that is more realistic.

Thanks!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:23:41 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Tillinghast
> wrote:

> On May 12, 3:29*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > > Watch it. *The lady is a real nut case. *The husband takes the tips
> > > and she fires people every week.
> >
> > > My guess: *Now that this has hit the air, they will have a slight
> > > surge in business from curiosity seekers, then it will shut down.
> >
> > How long is it between filming the show
> > and airing it? *I'd guess they might be
> > closed already.
>
> Still open. Read their facebook page. they are still screaming and
> crying!The comments are hilarious.
> https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco?fref=ts

I read their FB page, but it was dumb... filled with troll posts and
other incomprehensible yelling - nothing seems real. It's more like a
fake FB page with fake posts.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-05-11 20:23:46 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 11/05/2013 2:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> No one is an expert in everything so a consultant can be of help with
>> costing, portion control, bar tending/serving, advertising and
>> promotion. Cleaning the kitchen should be easy enough to figure out.
>
> I hate "reality" shows and IMO shows like this are nothing more than a
> staged "reality".

Technically the news, a cooking show, 60 minutes, a football game,
sitcoms and Broadway musicals: All are "staged realities". I don't care
for them, but I'm human and the lurid has its way of beckoning.
Fortunately it's ability to do this wanes.

I just got through reading "Believing is Seeing" be Errol Morris we
generally deals with realites and their stagings; how we came to
images with our own beliefs and confer them on the images. The most
fascinating read I've had in many years.

On 2013-05-16 04:28:37 +0000, sf said:

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:31:30 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> sf asks:
>>
>>> How can they be so crowded if they are really that bad?
>>
>> Gordon lauds her desserts in the program. Apparently she does one thing well.
>
> I heard that too, but it didn't explain why they were so crowded when
> they were supposedly so bad.

Oh you mean during the taping? Word gets out when Ramsey is in town and
completely dead places come to life very rapidly, if only so they can
participate in the "before" portion of the program.

>> A number of the Yelp reviews, pre-Gordon, indicate the place is empty,
>> or that they are only one of two couple or some such.
>
> Aha. Okay, that is more realistic.
>
> Thanks!

On 2013-05-16 04:30:10 +0000, sf said:

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:23:41 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Tillinghast
> > wrote:
>
>> On May 12, 3:29*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Watch it. *The lady is a real nut case. *The husband takes the tips
>>>> and she fires people every week.
>>>
>>>> My guess: *Now that this has hit the air, they will have a slight
>>>> surge in business from curiosity seekers, then it will shut down.
>>>
>>> How long is it between filming the show
>>> and airing it? *I'd guess they might be
>>> closed already.
>>
>> Still open. Read their facebook page. they are still screaming and
>> crying!The comments are hilarious.
>> https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco?fref=ts
>
> I read their FB page, but it was dumb... filled with troll posts and
> other incomprehensible yelling - nothing seems real. It's more like a
> fake FB page with fake posts.

For fun reading, check he

<http://www.yelp.ca/biz/amys-baking-company-scottsdale#query:amys%20bakery>

On 5/16/2013 12:30 AM, sf wrote:

> I read their FB page, but it was dumb... filled with troll posts and
> other incomprehensible yelling - nothing seems real. It's more like a
> fake FB page with fake posts.

I finally saw some of the footage (on The Chew, maybe). Wow, they
were off the wall, to put it nicely. Afterwards one of them (I can
guess which one) posted a diatribe, then recanted the next day saying
they were hacked.

Whatever the truth, they came across as totally ridiculous on that
show, just from the bit I've seen.

nancy

On 5/16/2013 7:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 12:30 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> I read their FB page, but it was dumb... filled with troll posts and
>> other incomprehensible yelling - nothing seems real. It's more like a
>> fake FB page with fake posts.
>
> I finally saw some of the footage (on The Chew, maybe). Wow, they
> were off the wall, to put it nicely. Afterwards one of them (I can
> guess which one) posted a diatribe, then recanted the next day saying
> they were hacked.
>
> Whatever the truth, they came across as totally ridiculous on that
> show, just from the bit I've seen.
>
> nancy
>
Interesting video portions of the show. These people are ridiculous.

http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/

Jill

On Tripadvisor, it is ranked 628 out of 764 restos in Scottsdale reviewed. The 'terrible' raters are a scream to read. The ones who gave it an 'excellent' are probably relatives : ))

How has the place survived so long? Wish I had seen the show - had to be a riot.

On 5/16/2013 10:52 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> On Tripadvisor, it is ranked 628 out of 764 restos in Scottsdale reviewed. The 'terrible' raters are a scream to read. The ones who gave it an 'excellent' are probably relatives : ))
>
> How has the place survived so long? Wish I had seen the show - had to be a riot.
>
I didn't see the show when it aired but you can see parts of it he

http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/


Even before Chef Ramsay got there, the cameras were in place. They
caught the guy screaming at customers. Both of them were having hissy
fits. The guy says they invited Ramsay there to "tell people" [who had
been posting negative reviews (two years! before Ramsay got there) "how
good the food is". Um, that's not why he went there. He doesn't go to
restaurants like this to sing their praises; it's not what the show is
about. They're obviously delusional. It's pretty funny if you like
watching a train wreck.

BTW, the guy admitted he doesn't give servers their tips (if on a credit
card) saying, "I pay them hourly wage." Yeah, maybe the hourly wage for
employees wherever he's from (sounds like a country in a former Soviet
Union) is sufficient to live on. In Scottsdale, Arizona? Not friggin
likely.

Ramsay made a point of handing his server *cash* right in front of them,
saying, "You deserve this."

Jill

On 5/16/2013 11:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 10:52 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>> On Tripadvisor, it is ranked 628 out of 764 restos in Scottsdale
>> reviewed. The 'terrible' raters are a scream to read. The ones who
>> gave it an 'excellent' are probably relatives : ))
>>
>> How has the place survived so long? Wish I had seen the show - had to
>> be a riot.
>>
> I didn't see the show when it aired but you can see parts of it he
>
> http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/
>
>
> Even before Chef Ramsay got there, the cameras were in place. They
> caught the guy screaming at customers. Both of them were having hissy
> fits. The guy says they invited Ramsay there to "tell people" who had
> been posting negative reviews (two years! before Ramsay got there) "how
> good the food is". Um, that's not why he went there. He doesn't go to
> restaurants like this to sing their praises; it's not what the show is
> about. They're obviously delusional. It's pretty funny if you like
> watching a train wreck.
>
> BTW, the guy admitted he doesn't give servers their tips (if on a credit
> card) saying, "I pay them hourly wage." Yeah, maybe the hourly wage for
> employees wherever he's from (sounds like a country in a former Soviet
> Union) is sufficient to live on. In Scottsdale, Arizona? Not friggin
> likely.
>
> Ramsay made a point of handing his server *cash* right in front of them,
> saying, "You deserve this."
>
> Jill

BTW, these people certainly don't talk or act like they're the
"religious" people they purported to be. Of course were "hacked"...
yeah, right. Got the FBI right on it! LOLOL Watch the video, fools,
then look in the mirror. No one else would have posted those replies.
Makes for interesting reading and viewing.

Jill

Ditto. Not very scintillating comment, but you nailed it ImStillMags.

On 5/16/2013 11:59 AM, Nanzi wrote:
> Ditto. Not very scintillating comment, but you nailed it ImStillMags.
>
Would have been nice if you'd quoted:

"Plus Ramsey is pretty obnoxious ....on purpose for the camera.....and
I find him off putting.

Some find it entertaining....I find it disturbing. So I don't watch."

Well, I'm enjoying watching the train wreck. Ramsay is much more
subdued these days. It was the owners who were nuts even before he got
there.

Watch the video of them ordering customers out of the restaurant if they
didn't like the food. That was before he even arrived. Then look at
the burger he tasted when he arrived to critique the food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LY7...ayer_embedded#!

Ramsay was able to squeeze the hamburger out like a sponge; it was
dripping with grease. Ugh! Yet they insist their food is stellar.

At least the kitchen was clean. Ramsay was amazed by that.

Jill

On 2013-05-16 15:29:36 +0000, jmcquown said:

> BTW, these people certainly don't talk or act like they're the
> "religious" people they purported to be.

Welcome to modern religion.

On 5/16/2013 8:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Interesting video portions of the show. These people are ridiculous.
>
> http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/
>
>
> Jill


They are husband and wife? I saw this on television and I thought she
was his daughter or granddaughter. I do not watch Kitchen Nightmares, so
I missed this.

Becca

On 2013-05-16, jmcquown > wrote:

> At least the kitchen was clean. Ramsay was amazed by that.

One has to wonder about the desserts, too. She sez she make's 'em,
but dense rich desserts like that can be purchased and stored for
quite some time in a cool case and remain excellent. Considering her
monster ego and unrelenting arrogance, I'm doubtful.

The clincher was:

"You no longer work here"

"Don't walk away from me when I speak to you"

I'm amazed this witch has not been laid out cold, before.

nb

On 5/16/2013 11:29 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> BTW, these people certainly don't talk or act like they're the
> "religious" people they purported to be. Of course were "hacked"...
> yeah, right. Got the FBI right on it! LOLOL Watch the video, fools,
> then look in the mirror. No one else would have posted those replies.
> Makes for interesting reading and viewing.

Wishing hurt on someone? Yes, that's WJWD. I checked out that
link you posted. Holy Crow, I don't know who's more off the wall.
The husband who thinks he can use the computer better than the
waitresses (hahahahaha!!!! hunt and peck) or the lady who thinks
waiting an hour for each dish is normal restaurant service.

And the instant someone pops out that word Haters, I am done
with them.

nancy

Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 8:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Interesting video portions of the show. These people are ridiculous.
>>
>> http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/
>>
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> They are husband and wife? I saw this on television and I thought she
> was his daughter or granddaughter. I do not watch Kitchen Nightmares,
> so I missed this.
>
> Becca

Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.

On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:06:05 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-05-16 04:30:10 +0000, sf said:
>
> >>
> >> Still open. Read their facebook page. they are still screaming and
> >> crying!The comments are hilarious.
> >> https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco?fref=ts
> >
> > I read their FB page, but it was dumb... filled with troll posts and
> > other incomprehensible yelling - nothing seems real. It's more like a
> > fake FB page with fake posts.
>
> For fun reading, check he
>
> <http://www.yelp.ca/biz/amys-baking-company-scottsdale#query:amys%20bakery>

Thanks, but I read it before I found their FB page.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.
>
I suspect she's a younger "trophy" wife and the restaurant is kept
afloat by whatever money he has.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 5/16/2013 4:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.
>>
> I suspect she's a younger "trophy" wife and the restaurant is kept
> afloat by whatever money he has.
>
I think so, too. She mentioned he spent over a million bucks to open
her "dream restaurant". There's some mention of him having been a
"playboy" (ha!) in Las Vegas with a string of women before she got ahold
of him.

Jill

On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-05-16, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> At least the kitchen was clean. Ramsay was amazed by that.
>
> One has to wonder about the desserts, too. She sez she make's 'em,
> but dense rich desserts like that can be purchased and stored for
> quite some time in a cool case and remain excellent. Considering her
> monster ego and unrelenting arrogance, I'm doubtful.
>
Good point. I sure didn't see her doing any baking in the videos I
looked at, did you? Well, except for the crappy pizza.

> The clincher was:
>
> "You no longer work here"
>
> "Don't walk away from me when I speak to you"
>
> I'm amazed this witch has not been laid out cold, before.
>
> nb
>
I have no doubt if they remain in business and continue to treat
customers and employees like that, it will happen.

Jill

On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:46:58 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 4:17 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.
> >>
> > I suspect she's a younger "trophy" wife and the restaurant is kept
> > afloat by whatever money he has.
> >
> I think so, too. She mentioned he spent over a million bucks to open
> her "dream restaurant". There's some mention of him having been a
> "playboy" (ha!) in Las Vegas with a string of women before she got ahold
> of him.
>

Money can buy a certain kind of "love".

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.
>>
> I suspect she's a younger "trophy" wife and the restaurant is kept
> afloat by whatever money he has.

Could be. I'm not a good judge of age.

One of my aunts had a store for a while. Didn't make her any money but gave
her something to do. She was wealthy so didn't need any income that it
might have generated.

On 5/16/2013 5:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:

>> One has to wonder about the desserts, too. She sez she make's 'em,
>> but dense rich desserts like that can be purchased and stored for
>> quite some time in a cool case and remain excellent. Considering her
>> monster ego and unrelenting arrogance, I'm doubtful.
>>
> Good point. I sure didn't see her doing any baking in the videos I
> looked at, did you? Well, except for the crappy pizza.

It struck me that it takes her forever to put out a plate of
food, and those pastries all looked very time consuming to make.
Also, her food didn't look attractive like someone accustomed to
making pretty desserts. I would think some sense of aesthetics
would be apparent.

Who knows.

nancy

On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:56:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>
> One of my aunts had a store for a while. Didn't make her any money but gave
> her something to do. She was wealthy so didn't need any income that it
> might have generated.
>
She probably had a reason. In the city, you see lots of stores that
aren't doing much business but manage to stay open way beyond the time
normal people would have thrown in the towel. There are two reasons
for that, either they're a way to launder money or some old goat is
making work for his mistress and he's using it as a write off. Your
aunt's store was probably a way she supported her hobby and she could
travel under the guise of buying for the store. Everything she bought
was for sale so it was legal and she could write off all her expenses,
which included travel and rent.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/16/2013 5:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> One has to wonder about the desserts, too. She sez she make's 'em,
>>> but dense rich desserts like that can be purchased and stored for
>>> quite some time in a cool case and remain excellent. Considering her
>>> monster ego and unrelenting arrogance, I'm doubtful.
>>>
>> Good point. I sure didn't see her doing any baking in the videos I
>> looked at, did you? Well, except for the crappy pizza.
>
> It struck me that it takes her forever to put out a plate of
> food, and those pastries all looked very time consuming to make.
> Also, her food didn't look attractive like someone accustomed to
> making pretty desserts. I would think some sense of aesthetics
> would be apparent.
>
> Who knows.
>
> nancy

I used to bake a lot of stuff and take it to work. Once day someone said to
me, "I know you can bake. But can you cook?" I always assumed that the two
went hand in hand. Apparently not. I have seen countless chefs on TV say
that they didn't bake. And although I don't bake much any more (mainly
because we don't eat much of that stuff), I still can do it.

Of the two, I would have to say that cooking is usually easier. Unless
perhaps it is certain kinds of candies. I have made many kinds of candies
over the years and the one that always stumped me was taffy. Mine always
comes out too hard even though I am careful to do the water test and check
the candy thermometer. I have made it in school and it was fine. Made it
at other people's houses and it was fine. But make it at home? I wind up
with a hard candy and I am talking the break your tooth kind of hard. But I
do think that candy making and baking are more of a science than most
cooking is. Although I guess it all is sort of a science.

I am always astounded when I get truly horrible food at a restaurant.

When we first moved here, there was a Mexican restaurant. It's no longer
there. Was two different Indian places after that and now an Italian place.
I just think that building is doomed. All of those places have gotten
horrible reviews. Even the Italian one! The owner of that has another
location in Everett and it has gotten excellent reviews. But at the Mexican
place, the nice man who seated us pointed out to us many times how we were
getting such a good deal because the portions were huge! And huge is
generally not what I am looking for in restaurant portions.

I started by ordering a dinner salad. He tried to talk me out of it by
saying that it was only a plain salad. And it all went downhill from there.
That salad, pathetic as it was, was the only edible thing on our table. The
chips were greasy, limp and stale. The salsa was like red water. Nothing
else seemed to have any seasonings whatever. My dad, daughter and I had
dined there. My mom was sick or injured or something and my husband was at
work. As soon as we could flag the waiter down, we got the bill, drove
straight to Burger Master for some good food and took it back to my house to
eat it. That place closed soon after. But being new to the area and not
even having my Internet up and running yet, we had no clue which places were
good and which weren't.

It also amazes me when restaurants that I consider to be truly bad are still
in business years later. There is another Mexican place that has locations
in several different cities. I tried two of the locations and each time got
the same bad food. Literally the only thing they serve that has any flavor
at all is the beans. But they have a very bad flavor! Now that I have
tried Epazote, I am wondering if perhaps it is that? Perhaps they put a lot
of that in there? I just don't know. I only used a pinch in my beans both
times that I tried it after reading cautions online not to use too much.

But the food was really, truly bad. Old looking meat with bad texture.
Flavorless sauces. Stale chips. Stale taco shells and yes, they use the
crispy "American" style shells. We all ordered different things and all
disliked the food. My daughter's friend did order a steak and although it
was huge, she said that it wasn't very good. She also had a baked potato
and they had glopped it up so much that she didn't want to eat it. I
personally would not order American food at a Mexican place but this was a
kid. This was several years ago. We tried the newer location by mistake.
I didn't realize that it was in fact the same place until we walked in. I
immediately had a bad feeling about it. Then it was confirmed when our bean
dip was brought to the table. They put diced chicken in it! Who puts
chicken in bean dip? They should have disclosed this on the menu. Totally
ruined it. Nobody would eat the stuff. And when my dad asked for some
hotter salsa, they brought him a bottle of something red and said that they
didn't know what it was. I suspected that it was Sriacchia (sp?). It was
just in a generic, clear squeeze bottle.

All of those locations are still open and all get mostly not only bad
reviews but REALLY bad reviews. But they also get a few rave reviews.
Makes me think those people were shills.

On 5/16/2013 2:16 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 11:29 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> BTW, these people certainly don't talk or act like they're the
>> "religious" people they purported to be. Of course were "hacked"...
>> yeah, right. Got the FBI right on it! LOLOL Watch the video, fools,
>> then look in the mirror. No one else would have posted those replies.
>> Makes for interesting reading and viewing.
>
> Wishing hurt on someone? Yes, that's WJWD.

I'll bet they even have that little fish symbol on the back of their
cars. Speaking of cars, Ramsay spoke to some former employees. One of
the bussers said he had to wash the guy's car for him!

> I checked out that
> link you posted. Holy Crow, I don't know who's more off the wall.
> The husband who thinks he can use the computer better than the
> waitresses (hahahahaha!!!! hunt and peck)

I know, right? Not allowed to touch the computer. Then he gets
flustered when a server needs him to pour another glass of wine while
he's entering an order. Because the servers aren't allowed to pour
wine, either.

> or the lady who thinks
> waiting an hour for each dish is normal restaurant service.
>
She only handles one ticket at a time! That's ridiculous. There are
some jobs where you simply *have* to be able to multi-task. Being a
chef is definitely one of them.

I'd like to see her try to last a single day as a short-order cook.
(I'm thinking Waffle House, around 7:30AM.) Oh, sorry, I can only cook
one order at a time. They'd laugh her right out the door.

> And the instant someone pops out that word Haters, I am done
> with them.
>
> nancy
>
I'm with you there.

Jill

On 5/16/2013 4:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 4:17 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Husband and wife. I suspect that she is older than she looks.
>>>
>> I suspect she's a younger "trophy" wife and the restaurant is kept
>> afloat by whatever money he has.
>>
> I think so, too. She mentioned he spent over a million bucks to open
> her "dream restaurant". There's some mention of him having been a
> "playboy" (ha!) in Las Vegas with a string of women before she got ahold
> of him.
>
> Jill

Sounds like my brother, he has been married 4 times and they were all
young. This one was his secretary, and she is smart enough to never
leave his side. Smart woman.

Becca

On 5/16/2013 6:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 5:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> One has to wonder about the desserts, too. She sez she make's 'em,
>>> but dense rich desserts like that can be purchased and stored for
>>> quite some time in a cool case and remain excellent. Considering her
>>> monster ego and unrelenting arrogance, I'm doubtful.
>>>
>> Good point. I sure didn't see her doing any baking in the videos I
>> looked at, did you? Well, except for the crappy pizza.
>
> It struck me that it takes her forever to put out a plate of
> food, and those pastries all looked very time consuming to make.
> Also, her food didn't look attractive like someone accustomed to
> making pretty desserts. I would think some sense of aesthetics
> would be apparent.
>
> Who knows.
>
> nancy
>
I'll admit I'm not a baker. But that stuff looked like she'd have to be
up and baking at 3AM. Even if she only had to do it a couple of days a
week, she just didn't strike me as the type. Purely a subjective
opinion, of course.

Jill

On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:
>
> The clincher was:
>
> "You no longer work here"
>
> nb
>
No, nb. The *real* clincher was when they said, with all seriously,
"You have to clone us". Please don't!

Jill

On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:23:20 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> > And the instant someone pops out that word Haters, I am done
> > with them.
> >
> > nancy
> >
> I'm with you there.

I kinda like that word. Saw a funny t-shirt. It said "Haters gonna
hate". Yep, that's what they do best.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 11 May 2013 09:11:02 -0700, gtr > wrote:

>Okay, it's a guilty pleasure. And I never see the topic come up here,
>so that says good things about rfc.
>
>Last night the season finale took place at Amy's Baking Company in
>Scottsdal and it was the most astounding thing I've ever seen on one of
>this "restaurant saving" programs. Ramsey actually gave up and left. He
>says it's the first time he has given up in 200 such ventures.
>
>It is absolutely fascinating to see if you get the chance.
>
>One seminal element of the show is Amy & Husband's feuding with Yelpers
>about their reviews. So I wen to Yelp and ran it down. The first
>couple of hundred seem to relate more to the Ramsey show. But the
>first few hundred (from a few years ago), are fascinating.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vsc4v
>
>Apparently if you gave a bad review to what appears to be an INSANELY
>bad restaurant, the paranoid nuts that run the place
>responded--repeatedly--to your review, calling you a liar, demanding to
>see the receipt to prove you were actually there. All kinds of funny
>stuff.
>
>I must say that after seeing the show and going to bed last night I
>felt kind of disturbed by the thing. And when I woke up I was having a
>dream about the place, also rather disturbing. You wouldn't think
>restaurant reviews and restaurateurs would be that scary.
>
>They are!

You can't buy this kind of press. They are getting exactly what they
were after, press and attention. It doesn't matter if it's bad or not,
they will do a great business because some people will want to go
check out the new "soup nazi"

koko
--
Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

www.kokoscornerblog.com

On 5/16/2013 6:56 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 1:53 PM, notbob wrote:
>>
>> The clincher was:
>>
>> "You no longer work here"
>>
>> nb
>>
> No, nb. The *real* clincher was when they said, with all seriously
seriousness!
> "You have to clone us". Please don't!
>
> Jill

On 5/16/2013 7:31 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 09:11:02 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> Okay, it's a guilty pleasure. And I never see the topic come up here,
>> so that says good things about rfc.
>>
>> Last night the season finale took place at Amy's Baking Company in
>> Scottsdal and it was the most astounding thing I've ever seen on one of
>> this "restaurant saving" programs. Ramsey actually gave up and left. He
>> says it's the first time he has given up in 200 such ventures.
>>
(snipped)
>
> You can't buy this kind of press. They are getting exactly what they
> were after, press and attention. It doesn't matter if it's bad or not,
> they will do a great business because some people will want to go
> check out the new "soup nazi"
>
> koko
> --

That may be true for a while. But at least the "soup nazi" allegedly
served good soup.

Jill

On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:11:19 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 10:52 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On Tripadvisor, it is ranked 628 out of 764 restos in Scottsdale reviewed. The 'terrible' raters are a scream to read. The ones who gave it an 'excellent' are probably relatives : ))
>
> >
>
> > How has the place survived so long? Wish I had seen the show - had to be a riot.
>
> >
>
> I didn't see the show when it aired but you can see parts of it he
>
>
>
> http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/
> >


Three minutes told all. What a couple of JERKS.

Kalmia > wrote:
> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:11:19 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 10:52 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Tripadvisor, it is ranked 628 out of 764 restos in Scottsdale
>>> reviewed. The 'terrible' raters are a scream to read. The ones who
>>> gave it an 'excellent' are probably relatives : ))
>>
>>>
>>
>>> How has the place survived so long? Wish I had seen the show - had to be a riot.
>>
>>>
>>
>> I didn't see the show when it aired but you can see parts of it he
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.extratv.com/2013/05/15/ki...ts-on-hackers/
>>
>>>
>
>
> Three minutes told all. What a couple of JERKS.

I just watched the whole thing. Well, they are a failing restaurant. About
it. No one would kick me out of a restaurant without me doing lots of
damage. Was a very nice looking place

Greg

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:56:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> One of my aunts had a store for a while. Didn't make her any money
>> but gave her something to do. She was wealthy so didn't need any
>> income that it might have generated.
>>
> She probably had a reason. In the city, you see lots of stores that
> aren't doing much business but manage to stay open way beyond the time
> normal people would have thrown in the towel. There are two reasons
> for that, either they're a way to launder money or some old goat is
> making work for his mistress and he's using it as a write off. Your
> aunt's store was probably a way she supported her hobby and she could
> travel under the guise of buying for the store. Everything she bought
> was for sale so it was legal and she could write off all her expenses,
> which included travel and rent.

She said it gave her something to do. She made what she called "dinks".
This was just an assortment of artsy craftsy things. It was mostly her
stuff that she was trying to sell. She had a small back room in the shop
and she'd sit back there and make things. Sadly they were the sort of
things that people wanted to buy.

I know that she wouldn't be doing money laundering. She used to have a
cabin and named it PTL. My uncle was in the oil business and did very well
at it. So she never had to work.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 2:16 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 11:29 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, these people certainly don't talk or act like they're the
>>> "religious" people they purported to be. Of course were "hacked"...
>>> yeah, right. Got the FBI right on it! LOLOL Watch the video,
>>> fools, then look in the mirror. No one else would have posted
>>> those replies. Makes for interesting reading and viewing.
>>
>> Wishing hurt on someone? Yes, that's WJWD.
>
> I'll bet they even have that little fish symbol on the back of their
> cars. Speaking of cars, Ramsay spoke to some former employees. One
> of the bussers said he had to wash the guy's car for him!

Where I used to work we had "gofers". No set job for them. Just do what
they were told! But they knew this from the git go. But the rest of us
were also told that we were never to say, "That's not my job!" So some of
us did do an assortment of things like picking up dry cleaning, buying food
for the birthday breakfast, taking money to the bank, going to buy supplies
or checking competitor's prices.
>
>> I checked out that
>> link you posted. Holy Crow, I don't know who's more off the wall.
>> The husband who thinks he can use the computer better than the
>> waitresses (hahahahaha!!!! hunt and peck)
>
> I know, right? Not allowed to touch the computer. Then he gets
> flustered when a server needs him to pour another glass of wine while
> he's entering an order. Because the servers aren't allowed to pour
> wine, either.
>
>> or the lady who thinks
>> waiting an hour for each dish is normal restaurant service.
>>
> She only handles one ticket at a time! That's ridiculous. There are
> some jobs where you simply *have* to be able to multi-task. Being a
> chef is definitely one of them.
>
> I'd like to see her try to last a single day as a short-order cook.
> (I'm thinking Waffle House, around 7:30AM.) Oh, sorry, I can only
> cook one order at a time. They'd laugh her right out the door.

Heck I just made three entirely different meals in my kitchen and I wasn't
frazzled. Granted only one of those meals was cooked. That was Fettucine
Alfredo with chicken. But at the same time I was also washing dishes,
putting away the food that we bought, and prepping some of the veggies for
tomorrow's pot roast!
>
>> And the instant someone pops out that word Haters, I am done
>> with them.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> I'm with you there.

Yep.

sf wrote:
> I kinda like that word. Saw a funny t-shirt. It said "Haters gonna
> hate". Yep, that's what they do best.

It's true that there are some people like that. Sadly, my grandma was one
of them. And for some odd reason, I was one of the few people in the world
that she did not hate. Of course this didn't bode well for me in the eyes
of my cousins. But for the most part that woman hated everyone and
everything!

wrote:
> You can't buy this kind of press. They are getting exactly what they
> were after, press and attention. It doesn't matter if it's bad or not,
> they will do a great business because some people will want to go
> check out the new "soup nazi"

Very true.

I once dined at a place that was featured on the other show with Robert
Irvine. I was astounded that they were on there because the food had been
so very good! Although we dined there many years ago. Apparently the
problem was that somebody died (can't remember who) and the other relatives
were trying to run it but failing. One of the bunch had sort of taken
charge and she came across as very pig headed. Robert did help them but
then the pig headed one just closed the restaurant within weeks after Robert
had been there. So by the time the show aired, people saw it and were
eager to dine there. But no more! There were tons of complains online at
yelp or some place like that from the locals who felt that if the woman had
just given it a chance she would have made money. The place is sort of out
in the middle of nowhere which is what led us to stop there. I was hungry
and there was no place else.