"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/19/2013 4:17 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 5/19/2013 3:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>> That is *not* what I said! I said they only take a low paying job
>>> because
>>> they can get no other. We were not just talking of waiting tables.
>>> We were
>>> talking of waiting tables for a low wage. Here, that would not happen.
>>> Not legally anyway. Wait staff is well paid.
>>>
>>>
>> I can quote it if you don't remember.
>
> In which of the United States are they required to pay wait staff
> minimum wage?
>
> nancy

Washington for one. Not sure about other places. Here there are very few
exceptions to the minimum wage. One is underage farm workers.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:06:41 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/19/2013 4:17 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> > On 5/19/2013 3:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> That is *not* what I said! I said they only take a low paying job
>> >> because
>> >> they can get no other. We were not just talking of waiting tables.
>> >> We were
>> >> talking of waiting tables for a low wage. Here, that would not
>> >> happen.
>> >> Not legally anyway. Wait staff is well paid.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I can quote it if you don't remember.
>>
>> In which of the United States are they required to pay wait staff
>> minimum wage?
>>
>
> http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
>
> Minimum wage by state
> http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm
> http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/...age-chart.aspx
>
> Cities can set their own minimum wage requirements, so San Francisco
> http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=Rest...rancisco%2C+CA
> http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...-S-2435465.php
>
> Some are also entitled to health benefits, but restaurants played fast
> and loose with that, collecting money from customers and then
> pocketing it.
> http://www.sfbg.com/politics/2013/01...ud-restaurants

Wow! We are by far the highest paid state. $9.19 minimum wage and wait
staff has to be paid that. Plus get their tips!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
>> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she likes
>> to
>> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has told
>> me
>> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but
>> something
>> like just over $2 an hour.
>
> Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
> being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
>
>> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
>
> Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
> for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
> less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
> are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
> and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
> there's a problem.

I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding any
good paying jobs.

We have no income tax here in WA either. So?

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
> >> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she likes
> >> to
> >> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has told
> >> me
> >> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but
> >> something
> >> like just over $2 an hour.
> >
> > Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
> > being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
> >
> >> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
> >
> > Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
> > for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
> > less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
> > are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
> > and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
> > there's a problem.
>
> I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding any
> good paying jobs.
>
> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>
The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
>> >> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she
>> >> likes
>> >> to
>> >> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has
>> >> told
>> >> me
>> >> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but
>> >> something
>> >> like just over $2 an hour.
>> >
>> > Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
>> > being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
>> >
>> >> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
>> >
>> > Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
>> > for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
>> > less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
>> > are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
>> > and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
>> > there's a problem.
>>
>> I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding
>> any
>> good paying jobs.
>>
>> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>>
> The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
> the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
> of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
> is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?

No. I don't remember those. Could be that they were out while we didn't
live here. Angela asked me if I had to move from this state, which would be
my second choice? I said Oregon.

I do remember during the 70's and 80's, people here were very resentful of
Californians who moved up here. They felt that they were taking all of our
jobs. That doesn't seem to be the case any more. I think the cost of
living here is pretty much the same as it is in CA.

But I do think we are very lucky here. We have such a mild climate and
there are so many things to do here.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
>>> >> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she
>>> >> likes
>>> >> to
>>> >> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has
>>> >> told
>>> >> me
>>> >> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but
>>> >> something
>>> >> like just over $2 an hour.
>>> >
>>> > Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
>>> > being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
>>> >
>>> >> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
>>> >
>>> > Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
>>> > for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
>>> > less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
>>> > are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
>>> > and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
>>> > there's a problem.
>>>
>>> I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding
>>> any
>>> good paying jobs.
>>>
>>> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>>>
>> The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
>> the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
>> of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
>> is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?
>
> No. I don't remember those. Could be that they were out while we didn't
> live here. Angela asked me if I had to move from this state, which would
> be my second choice? I said Oregon.
>
> I do remember during the 70's and 80's, people here were very resentful of
> Californians who moved up here. They felt that they were taking all of
> our jobs. That doesn't seem to be the case any more. I think the cost of
> living here is pretty much the same as it is in CA.
>
> But I do think we are very lucky here. We have such a mild climate and
> there are so many things to do here.

Yes, there were a few years there when Oregon and Washington were hostile to
Californians. The thing was then that the housing was so much cheaper there,
so Californians started moving there buying up houses lots of them paying
cash from the sale of their homes in Ca, driving up prices for residents,
taking jobs etc. I believe it's evened out a bit now. I did come to CA from
Oregon many years ago, and still want to move back, but the older I get the
less energy I have for it. I always loved Oregon though.


Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, there were a few years there when Oregon and Washington were hostile
> to Californians. The thing was then that the housing was so much cheaper
> there, so Californians started moving there buying up houses lots of them
> paying cash from the sale of their homes in Ca, driving up prices for
> residents, taking jobs etc. I believe it's evened out a bit now. I did
> come to CA from Oregon many years ago, and still want to move back, but
> the older I get the less energy I have for it. I always loved Oregon
> though.

Oregon is beautiful!

On Sun, 19 May 2013 17:28:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
> >>
> > The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
> > the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
> > of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
> > is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?
>
> No. I don't remember those. Could be that they were out while we didn't
> live here. Angela asked me if I had to move from this state, which would be
> my second choice? I said Oregon.
>
> I do remember during the 70's and 80's, people here were very resentful of
> Californians who moved up here. They felt that they were taking all of our
> jobs. That doesn't seem to be the case any more. I think the cost of
> living here is pretty much the same as it is in CA.

Maybe now, but back then - jobs were not the primary focus in Oregon -
or Washington. They often cashed out and gave up lucrative careers to
move up there. The faux pas was that they drove up property prices.
Property up there was cheap compared to ours, so Californians gobbled
it up which annoyed the Natives - but it didn't stop Californians from
moving there anyway.
>
> But I do think we are very lucky here. We have such a mild climate and
> there are so many things to do here.
>
Not as nice or as varied as in California, but you have to give up
something when a less expensive cost of living is the primary focus.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:46:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yes, there were a few years there when Oregon and Washington were hostile
> > to Californians. The thing was then that the housing was so much cheaper
> > there, so Californians started moving there buying up houses lots of them
> > paying cash from the sale of their homes in Ca, driving up prices for
> > residents, taking jobs etc. I believe it's evened out a bit now. I did
> > come to CA from Oregon many years ago, and still want to move back, but
> > the older I get the less energy I have for it. I always loved Oregon
> > though.
>
> Oregon is beautiful!
>
It is. My mother moved to the halfway point between Corvallis and
Newport on Hwy. 20. 50 acres surrounded by forest.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 17:28:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>> >>
>> > The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
>> > the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
>> > of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
>> > is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?
>>
>> No. I don't remember those. Could be that they were out while we didn't
>> live here. Angela asked me if I had to move from this state, which would
>> be
>> my second choice? I said Oregon.
>>
>> I do remember during the 70's and 80's, people here were very resentful
>> of
>> Californians who moved up here. They felt that they were taking all of
>> our
>> jobs. That doesn't seem to be the case any more. I think the cost of
>> living here is pretty much the same as it is in CA.
>
> Maybe now, but back then - jobs were not the primary focus in Oregon -
> or Washington. They often cashed out and gave up lucrative careers to
> move up there. The faux pas was that they drove up property prices.
> Property up there was cheap compared to ours, so Californians gobbled
> it up which annoyed the Natives - but it didn't stop Californians from
> moving there anyway.
>>
>> But I do think we are very lucky here. We have such a mild climate and
>> there are so many things to do here.
>>
> Not as nice or as varied as in California, but you have to give up
> something when a less expensive cost of living is the primary focus.

To each their own. I find WA to be much nicer than CA. I do not like most
of CA at all. Did like Susanville when I was there. Probably wouldn't want
to live there though.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:46:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Yes, there were a few years there when Oregon and Washington were
>> > hostile
>> > to Californians. The thing was then that the housing was so much
>> > cheaper
>> > there, so Californians started moving there buying up houses lots of
>> > them
>> > paying cash from the sale of their homes in Ca, driving up prices for
>> > residents, taking jobs etc. I believe it's evened out a bit now. I did
>> > come to CA from Oregon many years ago, and still want to move back, but
>> > the older I get the less energy I have for it. I always loved Oregon
>> > though.
>>
>> Oregon is beautiful!
>>
> It is. My mother moved to the halfway point between Corvallis and
> Newport on Hwy. 20. 50 acres surrounded by forest.

Love Beaverton, Newport and also Coos Bay. I know I have been through
Corvallis but don't remember much about it.

On Sun, 19 May 2013 23:27:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I know I have been through Corvallis but don't remember much about it.

It's a cute little college town, just a wide spot in the road -
probably best known for daVinci Days http://www.davincidays.org/

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 17:28:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>>> >>
>>> > The cost of living is more (same with Oregon). Why? Because they are
>>> > the preferred states for Californians who are looking for a lower cost
>>> > of living. Don't you remember the bumper stickers that said "Oregon
>>> > is a great place to visit, but DON'T move here"?
>>>
>>> No. I don't remember those. Could be that they were out while we
>>> didn't
>>> live here. Angela asked me if I had to move from this state, which
>>> would be
>>> my second choice? I said Oregon.
>>>
>>> I do remember during the 70's and 80's, people here were very resentful
>>> of
>>> Californians who moved up here. They felt that they were taking all of
>>> our
>>> jobs. That doesn't seem to be the case any more. I think the cost of
>>> living here is pretty much the same as it is in CA.
>>
>> Maybe now, but back then - jobs were not the primary focus in Oregon -
>> or Washington. They often cashed out and gave up lucrative careers to
>> move up there. The faux pas was that they drove up property prices.
>> Property up there was cheap compared to ours, so Californians gobbled
>> it up which annoyed the Natives - but it didn't stop Californians from
>> moving there anyway.
>>>
>>> But I do think we are very lucky here. We have such a mild climate and
>>> there are so many things to do here.
>>>
>> Not as nice or as varied as in California, but you have to give up
>> something when a less expensive cost of living is the primary focus.
>
> To each their own. I find WA to be much nicer than CA. I do not like
> most of CA at all. Did like Susanville when I was there. Probably
> wouldn't want to live there though.

I agree, even though I've lived in CA for a long time, I don't really care
for it. I love the Pacific Northwest. I'm surprised you liked Susanville,
but to each their own.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:46:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Yes, there were a few years there when Oregon and Washington were
>>> > hostile
>>> > to Californians. The thing was then that the housing was so much
>>> > cheaper
>>> > there, so Californians started moving there buying up houses lots of
>>> > them
>>> > paying cash from the sale of their homes in Ca, driving up prices for
>>> > residents, taking jobs etc. I believe it's evened out a bit now. I did
>>> > come to CA from Oregon many years ago, and still want to move back,
>>> > but
>>> > the older I get the less energy I have for it. I always loved Oregon
>>> > though.
>>>
>>> Oregon is beautiful!
>>>
>> It is. My mother moved to the halfway point between Corvallis and
>> Newport on Hwy. 20. 50 acres surrounded by forest.
>
> Love Beaverton, Newport and also Coos Bay. I know I have been through
> Corvallis but don't remember much about it.

I was near Roseburg in Sutherlin, my brother was in Troutdale, what a
beautiful place.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 23:27:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I know I have been through Corvallis but don't remember much about it.
>
> It's a cute little college town, just a wide spot in the road -
> probably best known for daVinci Days http://www.davincidays.org/

I see. Not my idea of a good time.

On 5/19/2013 10:45 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
>> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she likes to
>> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has told me
>> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but something
>> like just over $2 an hour.
>
> Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
> being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
>
>> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
>
> Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
> for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
> less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
> are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
> and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
> there's a problem.

A week or so ago, there were a couple of people from a waiter/waitress
association on television, talking about hourly wages. They say most
waitstaff get $2.30 per hour, with the exception of California, because
that state requires minimum wage.

Another thing I have noticed, in greasy spoons you see women waiting on
tables, but in expensive restaurants, it is mostly, or only men. Where I
live, I see this over and over. She is getting tipped on a $3.99
breakfast, and he is getting tipped on a $75 steak dinner.

Becca

On 5/19/2013 5:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
>> for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
>> less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
>> are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
>> and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
>> there's a problem.
>
> I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding any
> good paying jobs.
>
> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?


Unemployment in Texas is 6.4%, which makes Texas 17th, the state of
Washington is 27th and California is 48th.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm#Texas

Becca

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/19/2013 10:45 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> My friend who waits tables and also helps with the
>>> catering has done it all of her life. Why? Because it is what she
>>> likes to
>>> do. But it is a very low paying job for her. And from what she has
>>> told me
>>> that is the going wage there. I can't remember what she said but
>>> something
>>> like just over $2 an hour.
>>
>> Being a hotel banquet waiter can be quite a lucrative career... as is
>> being a banquet bartender. The name of the game is "tips".
>>
>>> That's in TX. I also think TX is hurting in the job community.
>>
>> Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
>> for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
>> less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
>> are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
>> and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
>> there's a problem.
>
> A week or so ago, there were a couple of people from a waiter/waitress
> association on television, talking about hourly wages. They say most
> waitstaff get $2.30 per hour, with the exception of California, because
> that state requires minimum wage.
>
> Another thing I have noticed, in greasy spoons you see women waiting on
> tables, but in expensive restaurants, it is mostly, or only men. Where I
> live, I see this over and over. She is getting tipped on a $3.99
> breakfast, and he is getting tipped on a $75 steak dinner.

That is common here too. Not sure why. Was watching an old show of Robert
Irvine's last night and the owner lowered his prices. He said he was doing
this to help his staff. Robert pointed out what the tip would be on a meal
for $7.50 and said that wasn't helping his staff. This poor guy had his
cook prepare everything in the morning and then all of it sat on a steam
table all day. The customer's complaints? The food tasted fine at lunch
time. But it wasn't very good at dinner time. Duh! Owner was getting
angry when Robert said they didn't prepared the food from scratch.
Technically they did for most of it. But not all. They used a corn salad
as garnish that they bought. Really? Corn salad is dead easy to make!
Anyway... Once you let something sit on the steam table for 5-7 hours, it
no longer tastes like you made it from scratch.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/19/2013 5:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>> Texas has no income tax and low business taxes, so they're not hurting
>>> for jobs. Manufacturing is moving to the South in general because of
>>> less regulation and lower cost of living aka: wages. The rest of us
>>> are supposed to ignore that those states have the Walmart mentality
>>> and always put their hands out to the Federal government whenever
>>> there's a problem.
>>
>> I know quite a few people in TX and they are having a hard time finding
>> any
>> good paying jobs.
>>
>> We have no income tax here in WA either. So?
>
>
> Unemployment in Texas is 6.4%, which makes Texas 17th, the state of
> Washington is 27th and California is 48th.
>
> http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm#Texas
>
> Becca

The unemployment rate doesn't tell me too much. When I lived in MA, they
used to brag that MA had a very low unemployment rate. I was trying like
mad to get a job and most all were minimum wage, only guarantee of 10 hours
per week. And there were all sorts of hoops to jump through to boot! One
required that I be up and dressed by 8:00 a.m. every morning. I had to stay
home in case they needed to call me in. And if they did, they could call me
to any of their locations up and down the Cape. This was a dry cleaning
place. They also requested that I wear no perfume or smoke on the days that
I might get called in to work. Because any scent of anything on me might be
off-putting to their customers. Uh... No. Don't need a job that badly!

Another was at an office supply store. That job did offer a few more hours
but also required me to make deliveries on my own time. With my own
vehicle. And they would not pay for my car insurance. The state of MA
requires anyone using their vehicle for work to have a million dollar
umbrella policy. I was already told by a taxi driver just how much this
cost. Uh. No.

Another was a full time job and good wages but would only be for 3 months
while the bookkeeper there got the child she was going to adopt adjusted
into her home. And this required me driving off the Cape every few weeks to
take some sales figures (this was a local newspaper) to their headquarters.
Uh... Ever heard of a FAX machine, people? Email? This was in the 90's
but computers were still a fairly new thing on the Cape. I almost got that
job. The woman said it came down to me and one other person out of a stack
of 2,000 resumes. That just goes to show you how scarce jobs were there.

I finally gave up and accepted a job for less than minimum wage at the golf
course on the military base. I wanted the job mainly to give me something
to do. Sure it would have been nice if I could have actually made some
money at it. But I sure didn't make much. And I had to pay MA state tax to
boot, even though I was a WA resident. MA made exceptions for military but
not their wives.

So while MA would brag of their low unemployment rate, almost all of the
people I knew who lived there were not working full time and really
wanted/needed to. But this was the Cape. May well be that people who lived
in Boston or some other area had better hours and wages. And most people
who lived on the Cape were not willing to drive to Boston daily. Some did.
My husband had to drive about 2 hours each way to get to his ship. But he
didn't do this every day because he sometimes stayed on the ship and was out
to sea for 3 month or so stretches at a time.

Looks like WA has the highest minimum wage. Good for us! But I also think
we need that here. Because the cost of living is so very high. Our
relatives in PA think we are wealthy when they heard of our income. And
they also think we are joking when we mention the cost of housing.

My nephew is 24 and he finally got a job. Part time and apprentice but he
is hoping to work full time for that company one day. Sadly, that seems to
be about the going age for the young people to find a job, any job! My
friend's grandson is the same age. He did work at a few restaurants, part
time, then a store part time and finally a good full time job at a warehouse
where they provided a really nice catered lunch daily and unlimited bottled
water. But then sales fell. And he and his friend were laid off. Took him
a very long time to land another job. And it's a retail one so doesn't pay
very well.

On Tue, 21 May 2013 03:30:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:



>
>The unemployment rate doesn't tell me too much. When I lived in MA, they
>used to brag that MA had a very low unemployment rate. I was trying like
>mad to get a job and most all were minimum wage, only guarantee of 10 hours
>per week.

I work in MA and manage a business there. I'm trying to hire three
people, but the pool of applicants is very small. I was afraid to run
an ad in the paper thinking there would be a line of people applying.
Nope, only a handful.

With on exception, all the applicants are 60+ and looking for mostly
big bucks. These are entry level jobs requiring no experience. Either
all the young people have jobs or they don't read the paper.

I'm also hoping to get one of the older guys. We just had someone
retire at the age of 76 so maybe we can get a 60 yo to fill his spot.

On 5/21/2013 2:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I work in MA and manage a business there. I'm trying to hire three
> people, but the pool of applicants is very small. I was afraid to run
> an ad in the paper thinking there would be a line of people applying.
> Nope, only a handful.
>
> With on exception, all the applicants are 60+ and looking for mostly
> big bucks. These are entry level jobs requiring no experience. Either
> all the young people have jobs or they don't read the paper.
>
> I'm also hoping to get one of the older guys. We just had someone
> retire at the age of 76 so maybe we can get a 60 yo to fill his spot.


Advertise on Craig's List, it is free and you will reach younger people.

Becca

On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:07:13 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

>On 5/21/2013 2:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> I work in MA and manage a business there. I'm trying to hire three
>> people, but the pool of applicants is very small. I was afraid to run
>> an ad in the paper thinking there would be a line of people applying.
>> Nope, only a handful.
>>
>> With on exception, all the applicants are 60+ and looking for mostly
>> big bucks. These are entry level jobs requiring no experience. Either
>> all the young people have jobs or they don't read the paper.
>>
>> I'm also hoping to get one of the older guys. We just had someone
>> retire at the age of 76 so maybe we can get a 60 yo to fill his spot.
>
>
>Advertise on Craig's List, it is free and you will reach younger people.
>
>Becca

I think you are right. Younger people don't read the paper any more.
If not on Facebook or Craig's List, it does not exist.

On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:07:13 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

> On 5/21/2013 2:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > I work in MA and manage a business there. I'm trying to hire three
> > people, but the pool of applicants is very small. I was afraid to run
> > an ad in the paper thinking there would be a line of people applying.
> > Nope, only a handful.
> >
> > With on exception, all the applicants are 60+ and looking for mostly
> > big bucks. These are entry level jobs requiring no experience. Either
> > all the young people have jobs or they don't read the paper.
> >
> > I'm also hoping to get one of the older guys. We just had someone
> > retire at the age of 76 so maybe we can get a 60 yo to fill his spot.
>
>
> Advertise on Craig's List, it is free and you will reach younger people.
>
Agreed. http://www.monster.com/ might be another avenue. His company
can write off whatever it is that they charge.

--
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"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/21/2013 2:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> I work in MA and manage a business there. I'm trying to hire three
>> people, but the pool of applicants is very small. I was afraid to run
>> an ad in the paper thinking there would be a line of people applying.
>> Nope, only a handful.
>>
>> With on exception, all the applicants are 60+ and looking for mostly
>> big bucks. These are entry level jobs requiring no experience. Either
>> all the young people have jobs or they don't read the paper.
>>
>> I'm also hoping to get one of the older guys. We just had someone
>> retire at the age of 76 so maybe we can get a 60 yo to fill his spot.
>
>
> Advertise on Craig's List, it is free and you will reach younger people.

Yes. Apparently that is about the only way to get a job now. Either that
or one of the online job search thingies. Young people don't read the paper
any more. Heck, most of the people I know don't read the paper any more.
Everything is online now.

On 2013-05-22, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> I think you are right. Younger people don't read the paper any more.

I have my doubts as to whether or not young ppl can even "read"
anymore.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-05-22, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> I think you are right. Younger people don't read the paper any more.
>
> I have my doubts as to whether or not young ppl can even "read"
> anymore.

If they couldn't read, they couldn't use Facebook!