Aye or nay?

On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:50:40 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Aye or nay?

I don't have hard water, so I've never even considered using anything
to "clean"my dishwasher. As far as a final rinse agent goes, I'm sold
on white vinegar. Everything is squeaky clean now.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Kalmia wrote:
> Aye or nay?

Never even heard of it but probably wouldn't need it here. We have soft
water.

On 5/15/2013 1:24 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:50:40 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> Aye or nay?
>
> I don't have hard water, so I've never even considered using anything
> to "clean"my dishwasher. As far as a final rinse agent goes, I'm sold
> on white vinegar. Everything is squeaky clean now.
>
And thanks for that tip in another thread, sf. White vinegar works
great.

Jill

On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Aye or nay?
>

I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
while to use up all the CTL.

On Wed, 15 May 2013 18:31:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/15/2013 1:24 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:50:40 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Aye or nay?
> >
> > I don't have hard water, so I've never even considered using anything
> > to "clean"my dishwasher. As far as a final rinse agent goes, I'm sold
> > on white vinegar. Everything is squeaky clean now.
> >
> And thanks for that tip in another thread, sf. White vinegar works
> great.
>
It works for you too? Great!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Aye or nay?
>>
>
> I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
> washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
> product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
> up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
> great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
> and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
> the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
> while to use up all the CTL.

Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:

SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
CONTAINS: SOY.

I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. Of
course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you.

Jill

On 5/16/2013 12:24 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 18:31:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/15/2013 1:24 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:50:40 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aye or nay?
>>>
>>> I don't have hard water, so I've never even considered using anything
>>> to "clean"my dishwasher. As far as a final rinse agent goes, I'm sold
>>> on white vinegar. Everything is squeaky clean now.
>>>
>> And thanks for that tip in another thread, sf. White vinegar works
>> great.
>>
> It works for you too? Great!
>
>
Yep, it works. Not only is the dishwasher nice and clean (freshened
might be a better word) the glassware came out sparkling.

Jill

On May 16, 3:15*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> >> * Aye or nay?
>
> > I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
> > washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
> > product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
> > up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
> > great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
> > and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
> > the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
> > while to use up all the CTL.
>
> Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:
>
> SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
> NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
> SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
> ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
> CONTAINS: SOY.
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. *Of
> course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you.
>
> Jill

I have not heard that sugar was harmful to this appliance. Where did
you get this info from? The worst thing for the dishwasher's
electronic controls and pumps is moisture, heat, and food particles.
This doesn't stop most people from running their dishwashers.

On 5/16/2013 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On May 16, 3:15 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>>>> Aye or nay?
>>
>>> I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
>>> washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
>>> product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
>>> up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
>>> great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
>>> and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
>>> the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
>>> while to use up all the CTL.
>>
>> Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:
>>
>> SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
>> NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
>> SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
>> ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
>> CONTAINS: SOY.
>>
>> I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. Of
>> course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I have not heard that sugar was harmful to this appliance. Where did
> you get this info from? The worst thing for the dishwasher's
> electronic controls and pumps is moisture, heat, and food particles.
> This doesn't stop most people from running their dishwashers.
>
Just a natural supposition. I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". Sugar is the
primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. Lemon juice might be a
better choice. But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.

Jill

On May 16, 6:39*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 3:15 am, jmcquown > wrote:
> >> On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> >>>> * *Aye or nay?
>
> >>> I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
> >>> washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
> >>> product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
> >>> up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
> >>> great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
> >>> and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
> >>> the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
> >>> while to use up all the CTL.
>
> >> Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:
>
> >> SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
> >> NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
> >> SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
> >> ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
> >> CONTAINS: SOY.
>
> >> I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. *Of
> >> course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you..
>
> >> Jill
>
> > I have not heard that sugar was harmful to this appliance. Where did
> > you get this info from? The worst thing for the dishwasher's
> > electronic controls and pumps is moisture, heat, and food particles.
> > This doesn't stop most people from running their dishwashers.
>
> Just a natural supposition. *I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
> an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". *Sugar is the
> primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. *Lemon juice might be a
> better choice. *But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.
>
> Jill

It's not good to believe in something just because it seems right. I
agree though - you probably don't know anybody that puts sugar in an
automatic dishwasher. This doesn't change the fact that it works
great. It works because the pH of the citric acid dissolves the
calcium deposits - works exactly the same as vinegar.

On 5/16/2013 12:39 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Just a natural supposition. I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
> an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". Sugar is the
> primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. Lemon juice might be a
> better choice. But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.

Nothing melts faster in hot water than sugar, it just washes away.

What I've read (here, I believe) is that putting jars with labels
is bad for your machine, which makes a lot of sense to me. Plumbers
find all that paper clogging up the works.

nancy

Kalmia wrote:
> Aye or nay?
>
This is rec.food.cooking.
Not ****ing.usa.kichen-dildos.
So please maek that as OT next time.
Thank you.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On 5/16/2013 8:35 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 12:39 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Just a natural supposition. I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
>> an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". Sugar is the
>> primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. Lemon juice might be a
>> better choice. But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.
>
> Nothing melts faster in hot water than sugar, it just washes away.
>
> What I've read (here, I believe) is that putting jars with labels
> is bad for your machine, which makes a lot of sense to me. Plumbers
> find all that paper clogging up the works.
>
> nancy
>


I got to hand it to the Country Time Lemonade folks - their product
dissolves fast in water. The main problem for me is that it's a waste of
sugar. Unfortunately, I can't drink the stuff. It's harmless for
dishwashers but it would mess up my blood sugar. Looks like I'm stuck
with it. If I had known about the vinegar, I would have gone that route
but nobody told me about that.

You're probably right about the labels clogging up the filters. That's
probably the most common problem with dishwashers - filters that haven't
been cleaned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUZPNlYCMqc

On 5/16/2013 1:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On May 16, 6:39 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 5/16/2013 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 16, 3:15 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>> Aye or nay?
>>
>>>>> I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
>>>>> washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
>>>>> product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
>>>>> up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
>>>>> great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
>>>>> and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
>>>>> the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
>>>>> while to use up all the CTL.
>>
>>>> Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:
>>
>>>> SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
>>>> NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
>>>> SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
>>>> ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
>>>> CONTAINS: SOY.
>>
>>>> I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. Of
>>>> course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you.
>>
>>>> Jill
>>
>>> I have not heard that sugar was harmful to this appliance. Where did
>>> you get this info from? The worst thing for the dishwasher's
>>> electronic controls and pumps is moisture, heat, and food particles.
>>> This doesn't stop most people from running their dishwashers.
>>
>> Just a natural supposition. I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
>> an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". Sugar is the
>> primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. Lemon juice might be a
>> better choice. But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It's not good to believe in something just because it seems right. I
> agree though - you probably don't know anybody that puts sugar in an
> automatic dishwasher. This doesn't change the fact that it works
> great. It works because the pH of the citric acid dissolves the
> calcium deposits - works exactly the same as vinegar.
>
The pH of the citric acid... what does that have to do with sugar? It
doesn't matter, I don't really care. You're the one who mentioned, "it
might be corroding and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of
the washer." The first thing I thought of was all that sugar. Not
citric acid.

Jill

My BFF works for a consortium that buys appliances in large quantities
for smaller, local stores. She told me about the Country Time Lemonade
for the dishwasher years ago. According to her, the manufacturers
recommend it.

I've used it and it worked well without causing any problems to the
dishwasher.

If folks are really worried about the sugar, you can always spend the $$
on Lemi Shine which is basically citric acid, same as the lemonade mix.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 5/16/2013 9:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> My BFF works for a consortium that buys appliances in large quantities
> for smaller, local stores. She told me about the Country Time Lemonade
> for the dishwasher years ago. According to her, the manufacturers
> recommend it.
>
> I've used it and it worked well without causing any problems to the
> dishwasher.
>
> If folks are really worried about the sugar, you can always spend the $$
> on Lemi Shine which is basically citric acid, same as the lemonade mix.
>
I guess I stand corrected by everyone. <shrug> I just use white
vinegar. Then again, mine doesn't have a stainless steel interior. I
dislike stainless because that is the last thing it is - stainless.

Jill

On 5/16/2013 3:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> My BFF works for a consortium that buys appliances in large quantities
> for smaller, local stores. She told me about the Country Time Lemonade
> for the dishwasher years ago. According to her, the manufacturers
> recommend it.
>
> I've used it and it worked well without causing any problems to the
> dishwasher.
>
> If folks are really worried about the sugar, you can always spend the $$
> on Lemi Shine which is basically citric acid, same as the lemonade mix.
>

I have never heard of this but I have heard of Tang being used. That
must have started in the 60s. Boy, I used to like that stuff. It's good
and the color is mesmerizing. It almost glows. CTL is pretty boring,
color-wise.

On 5/16/2013 3:18 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> Kalmia wrote:
>> Aye or nay?
>>
> This is rec.food.cooking.
> Not
(snip)
> So please maek that as OT next time.
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
What's your problem? Some of us have automatic dishwashers. We
occasionally discuss things related to kitchens and cleaning them as
well as cooking.

Jill

On Thu, 16 May 2013 20:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

> If folks are really worried about the sugar, you can always spend the $$
> on Lemi Shine which is basically citric acid, same as the lemonade mix.

I need to interject that I've tried Lemishine and it's just like any
other so-so rinse agent IMO. Vinegar works better.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 21:05:23 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 9:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > My BFF works for a consortium that buys appliances in large quantities
> > for smaller, local stores. She told me about the Country Time Lemonade
> > for the dishwasher years ago. According to her, the manufacturers
> > recommend it.
> >
> > I've used it and it worked well without causing any problems to the
> > dishwasher.
> >
> > If folks are really worried about the sugar, you can always spend the $$
> > on Lemi Shine which is basically citric acid, same as the lemonade mix.
> >
> I guess I stand corrected by everyone. <shrug> I just use white
> vinegar. Then again, mine doesn't have a stainless steel interior. I
> dislike stainless because that is the last thing it is - stainless.
>
In my world, stainless steel is shiny... I really did like JetDry, but
it can't do what it's supposed to do in this phosphorous free world...
then vinegar rode to the rescue for me. Glad to hear it's working for
you too!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:50:06 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> I have never heard of this but I have heard of Tang being used. That
> must have started in the 60s. Boy, I used to like that stuff. It's good
> and the color is mesmerizing. It almost glows. CTL is pretty boring,
> color-wise.

I've heard that both work, but I'm still skeptical.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:37:58 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 3:18 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> > Kalmia wrote:
> >> Aye or nay?
> >>
> > This is rec.food.cooking.
> > Not
> (snip)
> > So please maek that as OT next time.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michael Kuettner
> >
> What's your problem? Some of us have automatic dishwashers. We
> occasionally discuss things related to kitchens and cleaning them as
> well as cooking.
>

It's his way or the highway.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 16 May 2013 23:26:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
> I need to interject that I've tried Lemishine and it's just like any
> other so-so rinse agent IMO. Vinegar works better.

I'm curious about this since I have extremely hard water. Do you fill
the jet dry dispenser up with vinegar or are you adding it per wash?

Thanks!
Jinx

On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:14:58 -0500, Jinx the Minx >
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 May 2013 23:26:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
> > I need to interject that I've tried Lemishine and it's just like any
> > other so-so rinse agent IMO. Vinegar works better.
>
> I'm curious about this since I have extremely hard water. Do you fill
> the jet dry dispenser up with vinegar or are you adding it per wash?
>

I filled the rinse agent dispenser with vinegar for no other reason
than the timing was good. I'd just read about the vinegar trick and
needed to refill the dispenser - so I went for it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:14:58 -0500, Jinx the Minx >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 23:26:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>> I need to interject that I've tried Lemishine and it's just like any
>>> other so-so rinse agent IMO. Vinegar works better.
>>
>> I'm curious about this since I have extremely hard water. Do you fill
>> the jet dry dispenser up with vinegar or are you adding it per wash?
>>
>
> I filled the rinse agent dispenser with vinegar for no other reason
> than the timing was good. I'd just read about the vinegar trick and
> needed to refill the dispenser - so I went for it.
>
That's what I did, too. I don't have really hard water so I hadn't
bought anything to put in the dispenser since I've lived here. However,
it did "freshen" the dishwasher and make the glassware come out nice and
sparkly.

Jill

On Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:05:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On May 16, 6:39*am, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > On 5/16/2013 12:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > On May 16, 3:15 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > >> On 5/15/2013 8:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >>> On 5/15/2013 6:50 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> > >>>> * *Aye or nay?
>
> >
>
> > >>> I needed something like that because the stainless steel interior in my
>
> > >>> washer was streaked something awful. I was going to pick it up this
>
> > >>> product but the $6 price for one use was way too much. I instead picked
>
> > >>> up a giant container of Country Time Lemonade for 10 bucks. It works
>
> > >>> great and my dishwasher is shiny once again. OTOH, it might be corroding
>
> > >>> and clogging up the aluminum filter on the floor of the washer. That's
>
> > >>> the breaks. I assume vinegar would work too but it's going to take me a
>
> > >>> while to use up all the CTL.
>
> >
>
> > >> Ingredients in Country Time Lemonade:
>
> >
>
> > >> SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MALTODEXTRIN,
>
> > >> NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE,
>
> > >> SODIUM CITRATE, MAGNESIUM OXIDE, CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN,
>
> > >> ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
>
> > >> CONTAINS: SOY.
>
> >
>
> > >> I don't think it's a good idea to put sugar in your dishwasher. *Of
>
> > >> course if you don't mind paying to repair/replace it, that's up to you.
>
> >
>
> > >> Jill
>
> >
>
> > > I have not heard that sugar was harmful to this appliance. Where did
>
> > > you get this info from? The worst thing for the dishwasher's
>
> > > electronic controls and pumps is moisture, heat, and food particles.
>
> > > This doesn't stop most people from running their dishwashers.
>
> >
>
> > Just a natural supposition. *I don't know anyone who would put sugar in
>
> > an automatic dishwasher in an attempt to "clean it". *Sugar is the
>
> > primary ingredient in Country Time Lemonade. *Lemon juice might be a
>
> > better choice. *But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.
>
> >
>
> > Jill
>
>
>
> It's not good to believe in something just because it seems right. I
>
> agree though - you probably don't know anybody that puts sugar in an
>
> automatic dishwasher. This doesn't change the fact that it works
>
> great. It works because the pH of the citric acid dissolves the
>
> calcium deposits - works exactly the same as vinegar.

She just blows out her ass. You can buy a container of citric acid pretty cheaply, but never put acid in with the detergent. In the rinse is OK, but never in the wash cycle. It reduces the alkalinity and makes the detergent less effective.

--Bryan

On Sun, 19 May 2013 17:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:05:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On May 16, 6:39*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> > > But hey, it's your dishwasher, not mine.
> >
> > > Jill
> >
> >
> >
> > It's not good to believe in something just because it seems right. I
> >
> > agree though - you probably don't know anybody that puts sugar in an
> >
> > automatic dishwasher. This doesn't change the fact that it works
> >
> > great. It works because the pH of the citric acid dissolves the
> >
> > calcium deposits - works exactly the same as vinegar.
>
> She just blows out her ass. You can buy a container of citric acid pretty cheaply, but never put acid in with the detergent. In the rinse is OK, but never in the wash cycle. It reduces the alkalinity and makes the detergent less effective.
>
*She* put vinegar in the rinse dispenser. It gets no easier than
that... and it's cheaper than buying powdered lemonade or citric acid.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> *She* put vinegar in the rinse dispenser. It gets no easier than
> that... and it's cheaper than buying powdered lemonade or citric acid.

Since I retired I use my dishwasher less and less. I think I might give it
a new home with someone who appreciates it. I tend to wash up as I go along
so that after we have eaten there is very little to do.

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On Mon, 20 May 2013 10:54:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> "sf" > wrote in message
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> > *She* put vinegar in the rinse dispenser. It gets no easier than
> > that... and it's cheaper than buying powdered lemonade or citric acid.
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> Since I retired I use my dishwasher less and less. I think I might give it
> a new home with someone who appreciates it. I tend to wash up as I go along
> so that after we have eaten there is very little to do.
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My dishwasher is more of a final degreaser. I've never liked washing
dishes, but they go into the dishwasher a lot cleaner than some people
here claim is their routine. If I put mine in that dirty, it would be
like chipping at cement after all the crud has dried on for a day or
two while I'm building up enough volume to run the machine.

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