Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.

http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
>
>
> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

Got an error report. Is this the right link?

On May 28, 2:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
>
> Got an error report. *Is this the right link?

hmmmm....... it worked before.

I got an error report when I clicked on the one in the post as well.

Went to the website and copied the address.

http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:09:37 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On May 28, 2:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
>> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
>>
>> Got an error report. *Is this the right link?
>
>hmmmm....... it worked before.

It still does...

Looks like I'm safe as I either don't buy any of those brands or
they're not available here anyway.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:24:38 -0700, The Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:
>
>>Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>>http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
>
>So, basically, don't buy ANYTHING marketed by a major brand.
>
>Gonna make life hard, and food boring.

Its not hard and it makes food *less* boring, actually.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

Thanks!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
> Got an error report. Is this the right link?

Yes. Try it again.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:31:20 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:24:38 -0700, The Other Guy
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> >>
>
> >>http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >So, basically, don't buy ANYTHING marketed by a major brand.
>
> >
>
> >Gonna make life hard, and food boring.
>
>
>
> Its not hard and it makes food *less* boring, actually.

The rest of us aren't filthy farmers in a third-world sewer, so for us it IS hard.

On May 28, 2:24*pm, The Other Guy > wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
> >Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
>
> So, basically, don't buy ANYTHING marketed by a major brand.
>
> Gonna make life hard, and food boring.
>
> To reply by email, lose the Ks...

Not really.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/


FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
companies
http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:24:38 -0700, The Other Guy
> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> >Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
> >
> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
>
> So, basically, don't buy ANYTHING marketed by a major brand.
>
> Gonna make life hard, and food boring.
>
>
If you're interested in eating GMO free, then I guess you'll need to
learn how to cook.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:26:52 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:09:37 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> >On May 28, 2:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> >> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
> >>
> >> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
> >>
> >> Got an error report. *Is this the right link?
> >
> >hmmmm....... it worked before.
>
> It still does...
>
> Looks like I'm safe as I either don't buy any of those brands or
> they're not available here anyway.

Australia probably has their own lists for you, or maybe Monsanto
hasn't gotten a stranglehold on agriculture down under yet - so you're
relatively GMO free for the time being.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:37:35 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:26:52 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:09:37 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On May 28, 2:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
>> >> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>> >>
>> >> >http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
>> >>
>> >> Got an error report. *Is this the right link?
>> >
>> >hmmmm....... it worked before.
>>
>> It still does...
>>
>> Looks like I'm safe as I either don't buy any of those brands or
>> they're not available here anyway.
>
>Australia probably has their own lists for you, or maybe Monsanto
>hasn't gotten a stranglehold on agriculture down under yet - so you're
>relatively GMO free for the time being.

Yes, no question we also have some here in Aus. As you say though its
not quite as prevalent. Tasmania is GMO free (for now..), aside from
possibly the poppys grown here for alkaloids.

I don't buy a lot of food from retail stores as such, mostly tea,
coffee, spices, cheese, pasta sometimes, things like that, and they
are bought from locally owned specialty stores.
I make most things from scratch, or close to it, so it's easy for me
to avoid.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
>http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
I see there are big name brands.
Janet US

On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:37:35 -0700, sf > wrote:

>Australia probably has their own lists

Here we go:

http://www.ogtr.gov.au/internet/ogtr...mfoodprod4-htm

http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/cons...s/default.aspx

Seems like poppies are still GMO free here (although there have been
trials)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-09-0...gmo-ban/496856

On Wed, 29 May 2013 08:50:07 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

> I make most things from scratch, or close to it, so it's easy for me
> to avoid.

I hear you. I probably buy fewer processed foods than most people do,
but there's always something.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 5/28/2013 6:51 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
> That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
> I see there are big name brands.
> Janet US
>
Aren't most store brands made by big name manufacturers then packaged
under a different label?

I see a big problem on this list for vegans: Morningstar. As in
Morningstar Farms frozen food. They make fau "burgers", "chik'n" or
"breakfast patties". Of course I already knew from reading the
ingredients lists the stuff is nothing but crap.

Jill

On 5/28/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
>
> FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
> companies
> http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
>
Interesting short list. I've never heard of *any* of those brands
except for Bob's Red Mill. Can't say I've ever bought anything made by
Bob's Red Mill, either.

Jill

On Tue, 28 May 2013 19:32:38 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/28/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
> >>
> >> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
> >
> >
> > FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
> > companies
> > http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
> >
> Interesting short list. I've never heard of *any* of those brands
> except for Bob's Red Mill. Can't say I've ever bought anything made by
> Bob's Red Mill, either.
>

I'm not conversant in gluten free, non GMO product brands, but I
recognized a few brands on the other list. They have quite a few
Bob's Red Mill products in the bulk containers, so I buy it when the
occasion arises.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 28 May 2013 17:21:21 -0700, The Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:51:23 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:
>>
>>>Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>
>>>http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>
>>That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
>>I see there are big name brands.
>
>Most store-brands are major brands without the name.
>
>
>
>To reply by email, lose the Ks...

Exactly. That makes the list incomplete.
Janet US

On Wed, 29 May 2013 03:19:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
>I think it's kinda ironic that there's 69 items on the list.
>
>And most of them are not even COMPANIES,m and none of them are owned
>by Monsanto - contrary to the headline. And at least one
>product/coimpany doesn't even exist - WTF is Sweppes? Obviously
>somebody took great care compiling this list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweppes
No need to be intentionally obtuse.

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

Thanks!

ImStillMags wrote:
> On May 28, 2:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...o-a-simple-lis...
>>
>> Got an error report. Is this the right link?
>
> hmmmm....... it worked before.
>
> I got an error report when I clicked on the one in the post as well.
>
> Went to the website and copied the address.
>
> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

It's working now.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
>
> FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
> companies
> http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html

I think most organic foods are GMO free too. Of course you'll pay more for
them.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/28/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>
>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>
>>
>> FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
>> companies
>> http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
>>
> Interesting short list. I've never heard of *any* of those brands
> except for Bob's Red Mill. Can't say I've ever bought anything made
> by Bob's Red Mill, either.

I've bought from 15 of those companies. We didn't like all of the things
that we bought. 365 is the Whole Foods brand. Have bought tons of Bob's
Red Mill. Angela won a tote bag full of about $200 worth of their products.
That was quite nice! But we couldn't use all of them so we gave some away.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>
> That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
> I see there are big name brands.
> Janet US

I've been told that any corn product that you buy or anything that contains
a corn product will be GMO unless it is organic.

I no longer totally buy organic. Just can't afford to do so and there have
been so many reports stating that not everything you buy that is not organic
is necessarily bad for you. But I do still try to buy organic when I can.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/28/2013 6:51 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>
>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>
>> That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
>> I see there are big name brands.
>> Janet US
>>
> Aren't most store brands made by big name manufacturers then packaged
> under a different label?

Not necessarily. I have seen several websites online for companies who will
put up their product with your label on it. Water for instance. And if you
look at the store brand of say...condensed soups, the indgedients will be
slightly different. But my BIL used to work for a bakery in PA and he said
they put the very same bread with the brand name on it and then the store
name. And of course the store bread was much cheaper.
>
> I see a big problem on this list for vegans: Morningstar. As in
> Morningstar Farms frozen food. They make fau "burgers", "chik'n" or
> "breakfast patties". Of course I already knew from reading the
> ingredients lists the stuff is nothing but crap.

Perhaps. I don't know if those things are organic or not. We don't eat
them. I used to purchase Sunshine Burgers. I still like them but it's just
cheaper and easier for me to open a can of beans or cook from dried than to
eat those. They are patties made mostly of beans and other veggies. Not
soybeans. We did not eat them as sandwiches. Would just heat one up as a
snack.

The thing that really gets me is Seitan! I didn't know what it was, having
only heard of it referred to on some Asian cooking show. So I read the
ingredients. Wheat! They take the wheat and do all sorts of stuff to it to
make faux meat. I think if it's going to be a faux meat product it should
at least have a similar protein count to the real thing. But I don't think
Seitan does. And oh the carbs!

I just purchased the cookbooks Knives Over Forks or maybe it is Forks Over
Knives, based in the high reviews that it got online. It is what is called
a plant based diet. I didn't know what this meant. Why didn't they just
say vegan? Because it is pretty much vegan except perhaps for the few
recipes that call for a sweetener and then they tell you to use a granulated
sweetener of your choice. So I guess you might use sugar that was non
vegan. But the rest of it is vegan!

I had foolishly assumed that it would be a book that had recipes that were
mostly vegetables, fruit, grains, and stuff like that. With a little
protein like meat, cheese or eggs. But no! It's all vegan and the recipes
are hideous! They use a lot of beans but...IMO they use the wrong type of
beans for the recipe. And a lot of the recipes require you to make some
sort of other recipe and use a portion of it. I hate doing stuff like that
because there is always waste. The macaroni and cheese recipe calls for you
to make a batch of cashew cheeze. I am well familiar with making that stuff
after doing the raw vegan diet. But do I want to make it to cook with?
Nope. I think out of the whole book there is only one recipe I would use.
The others seem to be cobbled together with the emphasis being on nutriton
and not taste. The seasonings are often odd too.

I did noticed that most of the reviewers who gave it bad reviews said that
they actually tried some of the recipes and they tasted horrible. I don't
need to try them to see that. They just look off. Some of the others that
don't look bad are things that I have already been making for years. So the
book is useless to me.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 02:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>I had foolishly assumed that it would be a book that had recipes that were
>mostly vegetables, fruit, grains, and stuff like that. With a little
>protein like meat, cheese or eggs.

snip

go to Amazon.com, then Books, then " Gardening and Cooking" Also
"Cooking for Gardeners". Both sections have a selection of books that
are 'grow it and cook it.' The Sunset one is good.
Janet US

On 2013-05-28, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
> That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
> I see there are big name brands.

I can claim to buy nothing off that list, with one exception, mayo!

Yikes! What will I do for my coleslaw and salmon salad sammies?
Guess I'll jes hafta be happy to eschew all the others. 8|

nb

On Wed, 29 May 2013 02:23:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
> >>
> >> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
> >
> >
> > FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
> > companies
> > http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
>
> I think most organic foods are GMO free too. Of course you'll pay more for
> them.
>
I think organic food is automatically GMO free.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 14:02:56 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 May 2013 18:29:12 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 May 2013 03:19:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>>
>>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>>
>>>I think it's kinda ironic that there's 69 items on the list.
>>>
>>>And most of them are not even COMPANIES,m and none of them are owned
>>>by Monsanto - contrary to the headline. And at least one
>>>product/company doesn't even exist - WTF is Sweppes? Obviously
>>>somebody took great care compiling this list.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweppes
>> No need to be intentionally obtuse.
>
>My point was that the list was compiled by a bunch or morons. If they
>want to slander a company, product, or brand, they should at least get
>the name right.

Fair enough, but at least you understood what they meant.
That's the main thing Shirley.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 08:49:56 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 29 May 2013 02:23:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>> >>
>> >> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>> >
>> >
>> > FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
>> > companies
>> > http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
>>
>> I think most organic foods are GMO free too. Of course you'll pay more for
>> them.
>>
>I think organic food is automatically GMO free.

I should hope so...

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>
>http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/

Here's a view from another direction. I haven't laughed so hard for a
long time.

http://www.nwedible.com/2012/08/trag...thy-eater.html

Ross.
Southern Ontario, Canada

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 02:23:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>> >>
>> >> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>> >
>> >
>> > FYI: I just found a counter list of Non-GMO and Non-GMO, gluten free
>> > companies
>> > http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.c...companies.html
>>
>> I think most organic foods are GMO free too. Of course you'll pay more
>> for
>> them.
>>
> I think organic food is automatically GMO free.

It should but then I read some link claiming that if the farmer bought seeds
at a nursery or plants at a nursery, the end results might not be GMO and I
was like... Uh... Duh! I am no expert on this but... I thought in order
for the end result to be called organic, you had to use organic soil, and
organic seeds and plants. Because they do come labeled as such.

On May 29, 2:44*pm, Ross@home wrote:

>
> Here's a view from another direction. I haven't laughed so hard for a
> long time.
>
> http://www.nwedible.com/2012/08/trag...thy-eater.html
>
> Ross.
> Southern Ontario, Canada

That's priceless. Thanks for the morning laugh !!

On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:20:35 -0700, Feranija
> wrote:

>On 05/28/13 13:58, ImStillMags wrote:
>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>
>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>
>
>
>Philip Morris is on the list. So f...g what ? I don't think it matters
>when it comes to tobacco.
>- Marlboro, please.
>- Organic or regular?

Ignoring the negative aspects of tobacco for a moment, there is one
hell of a difference between plain, unadulterated tobacco and the
additives added by the big brands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes

And I can tell you from past experience that one is *way* more
addictive compared to the other. The last few years when I smoked, I
used 'black market' tobacco - cheap by the kilo, looked and smoked the
same, but no additives... I found it easy to quit when I tried (13
years ago now). No way could I quit with 'real' cigarettes.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:20:35 -0700, Feranija
> > wrote:
>
>>On 05/28/13 13:58, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>
>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>>
>>
>>
>>Philip Morris is on the list. So f...g what ? I don't think it matters
>>when it comes to tobacco.
>>- Marlboro, please.
>>- Organic or regular?
>
> Ignoring the negative aspects of tobacco for a moment, there is one
> hell of a difference between plain, unadulterated tobacco and the
> additives added by the big brands:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes
>
> And I can tell you from past experience that one is *way* more
> addictive compared to the other. The last few years when I smoked, I
> used 'black market' tobacco - cheap by the kilo, looked and smoked the
> same, but no additives... I found it easy to quit when I tried (13
> years ago now). No way could I quit with 'real' cigarettes.

Agreed.

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:20:35 PM UTC-4, Feranija wrote:
> On 05/28/13 13:58, ImStillMags wrote:
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> > Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
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> > http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
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> Philip Morris is on the list. So f...g what ? I don't think it matters
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> when it comes to tobacco.
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> - Marlboro, please.
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> - Organic or regular?

You don't know too ****ing much about Philip Morris, do ya, Bunky?

On Fri, 31 May 2013 07:18:14 +0000 (UTC), Feranija
> wrote:

>On 2013-05-31, Jeßus > wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:20:35 -0700, Feranija
>> > wrote:
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>>>On 05/28/13 13:58, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>>
>>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
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>>>Philip Morris is on the list. So f...g what ? I don't think it matters
>>>when it comes to tobacco.
>>>- Marlboro, please.
>>>- Organic or regular?
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>> Ignoring the negative aspects of tobacco for a moment, there is one
>> hell of a difference between plain, unadulterated tobacco and the
>> additives added by the big brands:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_cigarettes
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>It's absurd and foolish to ignore negative aspects of tobacco, as
>people smoke it not to quit as you write in your second paragraph,
>but to enjoy its smell and flavor, or to feed their addiction.

I said ignore it "for a moment".

>Both unadulterated and additionally poisoned leaves work their way to
>emphysema, oral or lung cancer.
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>Ignoring negative aspects of tobacco is like telling "I prefer to kill
>myself with a naturally occurring deadly bacteria rather than with
>synthetic mustard gas".

Yeah. I said ignore it "for a moment" and again you're intentionally
taking my comment out of context. Are you looking for an argument for
the sake of it?