Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.
--
Mr.E

On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:51:15 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.

They own everything else, so this little turn of events is inevitable.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-05-29, Mr.E > wrote:
> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.

Pshaw!

There are so many companies claiming to be "smithfield", it's a joke.
It's like hatch chiles and kona coffee. Anyone with a pig and a knife
in VA --and probably in neighboring states, too-- is calling
themselves Smithfield. I don't know why the Chinese bother. Besides,
I'd rather have their Char Siu, anyway.

nb

On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:

> Hopefully they put Paula Dean on the ship with the next outbound herd.

Is she desicated enough, now?

Pretty funny. China won't buy our poisoned pork, but has no problem
selling us tainted toothpaste and dubious dogfood.

nb

On 5/29/2013 5:51 AM, Mr.E wrote:
> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.
>

It used to be the Japanese were going to own everything. Looks like it's
China's turn. It's a crazy mixed-up world and if Ford can own Jaguar and
Fiat can own Chrysler, it means that these old, prestigious names are
just another commodity and available to anybody with the cash and interest.

My guess is that the Chinese can make a better product anyway - they
really know their way around a pig.

On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:

> The company that's trying to buy Smithfield was caught in a scandal
> last year butchering and selling diseased pork that were quarantined
> by the agriculture ministry and were supposed to be trashed.

I'm shocked! (not)

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:51:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. E wrote:
> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
>
> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.
>
> --
>
> Mr.E

As an Employee of Smithfield Foods, I worry about long term effects on the workforce. My plant is already a grueling place to work and The Chinese have a poor track record of employee rights, conditions and relations.

On 5/29/2013 10:41 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:51:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. E wrote:
>> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
>>
>> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mr.E
>
> As an Employee of Smithfield Foods, I worry about long term effects on the workforce. My plant is already a grueling place to work and The Chinese have a poor track record of employee rights, conditions and relations.
>

I feel your pain - it's scary to have your workplace taken over by
alien, unknown, bosses. OTOH, lots of American companies don't abide by
their workers either.

On 5/29/2013 3:41 PM, wrote:

> As an Employee of Smithfield Foods, I worry about long term effects
> on the workforce. My plant is already a grueling place to work and
> The Chinese have a poor track record of employee rights, conditions
> and relations.

Many workers here in America are concerned about their jobs, for various
reasons, this is a sign of the times. I wish you the best of luck with
yours.

Becca

On 5/29/2013 11:46 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 5/29/2013 3:41 PM, wrote:
>
>> As an Employee of Smithfield Foods, I worry about long term effects
>> on the workforce. My plant is already a grueling place to work and
>> The Chinese have a poor track record of employee rights, conditions
>> and relations.
>
> Many workers here in America are concerned about their jobs, for various
> reasons, this is a sign of the times. I wish you the best of luck with
> yours.
>
> Becca

My sister-in-law used to work for Sony but they closed their offices in
the US. She had to train the personal in India that would replace the
workers in America - including her. She said it was an awful job.

She then took a job at Costco which she said was great. Unfortunately,
she couldn't work with the computer system and quit. The good news is
that Sony wanted her back. Unfortunately, she's retired. My guess is
that she won't be retired for long. She's a workaholic, like her dad.
It's the worst case I've seen!

On 29/05/2013 3:50 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> The company that's trying to buy Smithfield was caught in a scandal
>> last year butchering and selling diseased pork that were quarantined
>> by the agriculture ministry and were supposed to be trashed.
>
> I'm shocked! (not)
>



I wonder if the alleged Chinese investors have considered that if they
buy Smithfield most normal, informed Americans simply won't buy it. I
don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
from China.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> I wonder if the alleged Chinese investors have considered that if they buy
> Smithfield most normal, informed Americans simply won't buy it. I don't
> know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy goods
> produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products from China.

I am very careful as to what I will buy from China. Something that is cheap
and decorative would be okay. But no food or cosmetics.

On 5/29/2013 4:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 29/05/2013 3:50 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> The company that's trying to buy Smithfield was caught in a scandal
>>> last year butchering and selling diseased pork that were quarantined
>>> by the agriculture ministry and were supposed to be trashed.
>>
>> I'm shocked! (not)
>>
>
>
>
> I wonder if the alleged Chinese investors have considered that if they
> buy Smithfield most normal, informed Americans simply won't buy it. I
> don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
> goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
> from China.
>



I agree with Dave. I don't shop Walmart or buy Chinese.

gloria p

On May 29, 2:46*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On 29 May 2013 18:43:00 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
> > On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> >> Hopefully they put Paula Dean on the ship with the next outbound herd.
>
> > Is she desicated enough, now? *
>
> > Pretty funny. *China won't buy our poisoned pork, but has no problem
> > selling us tainted toothpaste and dubious dogfood.
>
> The company that's trying to buy Smithfield was caught in a scandal
> last year butchering and selling diseased pork that were quarantined
> by the agriculture ministry and were supposed to be trashed.


Damn, the Chinese are learning the nuts and bolts of capitalism in a
hurry, aren't they?

On Wed, 29 May 2013 18:07:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I
> don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
> goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
> from China.

It's kind of hard to avoid goods produced in China, easier to avoid
food produced there. What about goods produced here and owned by a
Chinese company?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:48:25 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

> I don't shop Walmart or buy Chinese.

Shopping at Walmart is avoidable, but I bet you have lots of Chinese
made products or at least products with Chinese produced parts in your
house. They are impossible to avoid completely.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:02:54 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms
> wrote:

> On May 29, 2:46*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> > On 29 May 2013 18:43:00 GMT, notbob wrote:
> >
> > > On 2013-05-29, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> > >> Hopefully they put Paula Dean on the ship with the next outbound herd.
> >
> > > Is she desicated enough, now? *
> >
> > > Pretty funny. *China won't buy our poisoned pork, but has no problem
> > > selling us tainted toothpaste and dubious dogfood.
> >
> > The company that's trying to buy Smithfield was caught in a scandal
> > last year butchering and selling diseased pork that were quarantined
> > by the agriculture ministry and were supposed to be trashed.
>
>
> Damn, the Chinese are learning the nuts and bolts of capitalism in a
> hurry, aren't they?

No. They emulate, but they don't innovate.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-05-29, gloria p > wrote:

> I agree with Dave. I don't shop Walmart or buy Chinese.

WW carries a lotta good US made products.

nb

On 5/29/2013 1:48 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 18:07:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I
>> don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
>> goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
>> from China.
>
> It's kind of hard to avoid goods produced in China, easier to avoid
> food produced there. What about goods produced here and owned by a
> Chinese company?
>

I've been going to the funky Chinese store down the street to get some
hard candies that I can't find anywhere else. The guava candy has a
unique intense flavor and I've also been getting the coconut and ginger
flavor candies too. The candy is used to fill a bowl in the waiting area
of my office. As far as I know, it ain't killed anybody yet but I will
be on the lookout for anything of that nature happening.

http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Guava-.../dp/B000J0N1CK

On Wed, 29 May 2013 18:07:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:



>
>
>I wonder if the alleged Chinese investors have considered that if they
>buy Smithfield most normal, informed Americans simply won't buy it. I
>don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
>goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
>from China.

China is a very large pork consumer. Maybe they will be shipping from
US to China.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:48:25 -0600, gloria p >
> wrote:
>
>> I don't shop Walmart or buy Chinese.
>
> Shopping at Walmart is avoidable, but I bet you have lots of Chinese
> made products or at least products with Chinese produced parts in your
> house. They are impossible to avoid completely.

That's very true.

On Wed, 29 May 2013 22:08:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Wed, 29 May 2013 18:07:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>I wonder if the alleged Chinese investors have considered that if they
>>buy Smithfield most normal, informed Americans simply won't buy it. I
>>don't know about the rest of the people here, but I am reluctant to buy
>>goods produced in China and I absolutely refuse to buy food products
>>from China.
>
>China is a very large pork consumer. Maybe they will be shipping from
>US to China.

It has already occurred. My state governor has been wooing China for
years.
Janet US

Sqwertz wrote:

> I got my Chinese meat scandals mixed up. The company was caught
> doping their animals. Nobody was executed like the good 'ol days
> (last year) but they had to apologize and make a promise to increase
> the pork supply by 50% this year. Hence, they're buying Smithfield
> and turning it into an export company while they pollute our
> landscapes and give us nothing in return.

That started almost 20 years ago in East Africa, the chinese buying/renting
land to produce crops for China. I didn't think it would have got so far
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On 5/29/2013 1:02 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
>
> Damn, the Chinese are learning the nuts and bolts of capitalism in a
> hurry, aren't they?
>

The Chinese know their way around a buck although I suppose that it's
more comforting for us to believe that they are merely some goofy
looking people that talk funny.

The Chinese came to Hawaii during the late 1800s to work in the sugar
cane plantations. Most of them were single men and most of them would
take on Hawaiian women as wives. It was a case of the lowest class
joining the lowest class and yet today, the Chinese-Hawaiians are the
richest social class in Hawaii. I rent my office space a Chinese guy
that owns most of our little town.

My first job was working for a Chinese family that had a print shop.
They also owned the most famous Chinese restaurant in this state. They
dressed like poor folk and drove early 70s Subarus. It was not a pretty
sight. You might believe that these people are unsophisticated hicks all
right - my guess is that would suit them just fine. I prefer not to though.

dsi1 wrote:

> The Chinese came to Hawaii during the late 1800s to work in the sugar
> cane plantations. Most of them were single men and most of them would
> take on Hawaiian women as wives. It was a case of the lowest class
> joining the lowest class and yet today, the Chinese-Hawaiians are the
> richest social class in Hawaii. I rent my office space a Chinese guy
> that owns most of our little town.

That also happened in other areas in the Pacific, Indian Ocean and
south-east Asia in general, with the chinese quickly becoming the richest
among the population and thus getting hated by many. Some years ago I read
about a violent anti-chinese upholding in a city in Thailand, it said it
also happened in a long list of other places. Sorry for them
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> But don't blame the Chinese. Most times it is an American company that
> specifies crap to be made at a low price.

Replace "american" with "italian" and that's exactly what happens here,
also.
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On 2013-05-30, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> You want to buy crap, we will get crap made cheap and sell it to you.
> You want to buy quality? Sorry, we don't make enough profit on that.
> Would you like some of our crap? Others buy it so why not lower your
> standards and buy some too?

Sad, but true. Even more tragically, many of the consumer goods made
in the US are total crap, too. In fact, I've purchased some Chinese
made things that were not only cheaper (4X!) than US made equivalents,
but were of better quality. An old girlfriend refused to buy US union
made clothing, preferring better made garments from SEA.

nb

On 5/29/2013 11:39 PM, ViLco wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> The Chinese came to Hawaii during the late 1800s to work in the sugar
>> cane plantations. Most of them were single men and most of them would
>> take on Hawaiian women as wives. It was a case of the lowest class
>> joining the lowest class and yet today, the Chinese-Hawaiians are the
>> richest social class in Hawaii. I rent my office space a Chinese guy
>> that owns most of our little town.
>
> That also happened in other areas in the Pacific, Indian Ocean and
> south-east Asia in general, with the chinese quickly becoming the richest
> among the population and thus getting hated by many. Some years ago I read
> about a violent anti-chinese upholding in a city in Thailand, it said it
> also happened in a long list of other places. Sorry for them
>

You're right about that. I wonder why the Chinese like to emigrate so
much. Maybe there's so many of them that even a small percentage of
their population is a huge number. There were laws in place to stem the
flow of Chinese in Hawaii - my guess is that this was/is the case in
many countries.

sqwishy malapropped:

> You're just as disillusioned about the meat situation in China as you
> are about Google products.

A human would say "deluded". Disillusionment is a good thing, hardly an
insult.

wrote:

> As an Employee of Smithfield Foods, I worry about long term effects on the
> workforce. My plant is already a grueling place to work and The Chinese have a
> poor track record of employee rights, conditions and relations.

[sniff, sniff, sniff....]


Something definitely smells rotten about this troll.

ViLco wrote:

> > But don't blame the Chinese. Most times it is an American company that
> > specifies crap to be made at a low price.
>
> Replace "american" with "italian" and that's exactly what happens here,
> also.

Even reputable companies get sucked in to the price-point-design scam. In the
USA, Target and Walmart have perfected the art of cheapening a brand name by
sticking it on bottom-drawer crap.

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> The Chinese came to Hawaii during the late 1800s to work in the sugar
>> cane plantations. Most of them were single men and most of them would
>> take on Hawaiian women as wives. It was a case of the lowest class
>> joining the lowest class and yet today, the Chinese-Hawaiians are the
>> richest social class in Hawaii. I rent my office space a Chinese guy
>> that owns most of our little town.
>
> That also happened in other areas in the Pacific, Indian Ocean and
> south-east Asia in general, with the chinese quickly becoming the richest
> among the population and thus getting hated by many. Some years ago I read
> about a violent anti-chinese upholding in a city in Thailand, it said it
> also happened in a long list of other places. Sorry for them
> --

the politically correct version, today, is to envy (and worse) the
successful, regardless of their race or ethnicity.

On May 29, 10:51*am, Mr.E > wrote:
> Just was on CNBC cable channel that Smithfield has a buyout offer from
> a Chinese company . Assuming of course the gratuities are suitable.
> --
> Mr.E

They will do far worse damage to a fine product than any genetic
engineering, adding of toxic plastic, etc., could ever do. What a
disaster. Remind me not to buy any Smithfield if the buyout goes
through. It could be likened to putting the fox in charge of the hen
house, or the Chinese in charge of world human rights.

N.

Ema Nymton wrote:
>
> China is not exporting U.S. pork to China

Yes, actually they are. This has been going on for some time and US pork
has been prized in China for it's higher quality than the local stuff.

On Thu, 30 May 2013 22:07:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> We have to purge Congress, pass some sensible laws and have a simple,
> fair tax code. Doubt we will ever see it.

I will fall over in a dead faint if anything simple and
straight-forward ever comes out of congress, especially a reasonable
and fair tax code.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Pico Rico wrote:

>> That also happened in other areas in the Pacific, Indian Ocean and
>> south-east Asia in general, with the chinese quickly becoming the
>> richest among the population and thus getting hated by many. Some
>> years ago I read about a violent anti-chinese upholding in a city in
>> Thailand, it said it also happened in a long list of other places.
>> Sorry for them --

> the politically correct version, today, is to envy (and worse) the
> successful, regardless of their race or ethnicity.

True, sadly true
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On 5/30/2013 7:46 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> Ema Nymton wrote:
>>
>> China is not exporting U.S. pork to China
>
> Yes, actually they are. This has been going on for some time and US pork
> has been prized in China for it's higher quality than the local stuff.

Compared to China, products, good and services are expensive in America.
We have a global pork trade of about 7 million tons, and China imports
400,00 tons of pork from other countries, not just the USA, so I do not
think we will have a pork shortage.

Becca