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Someone here (I forget who, sorry) has asked several times if people
have forgotten about "Pure Olive Oil" whenever EVOO is mentioned... I
never forgot about it because I didn't know about it existed. I knew
about regular, refined OO, but not anything called "pure". Well, I
happened to go to Costco two days in a row this week and looked at
oils each time. Yep, they sell "Pure Olive Oil". I looked it up and
apparently it's a mixture of refined olive oil and EVOO... if there's
a specific percentage of each, I missed that part. In any case, I
worked the math and buying Kirkland brand EVOO or Kirkland brand Pure
Olive Oil works out to be ± $6 for either one. A deciding factor, for
me, is the amount I can buy it in. Kirkland brand EVOO comes in one 2
liter jug, but I have to buy two 2 liter jugs of Kirkland's Pure OO
and I prefer buying one at a time because I do not want to store that
amount of oil.

So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
switch?

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sf wrote:
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> Someone here (I forget who, sorry) has asked several times if people
> have forgotten about "Pure Olive Oil" whenever EVOO is mentioned... I
> never forgot about it because I didn't know about it existed. I knew
> about regular, refined OO, but not anything called "pure". Well, I
> happened to go to Costco two days in a row this week and looked at
> oils each time. Yep, they sell "Pure Olive Oil". I looked it up and
> apparently it's a mixture of refined olive oil and EVOO... if there's
> a specific percentage of each, I missed that part. In any case, I
> worked the math and buying Kirkland brand EVOO or Kirkland brand Pure
> Olive Oil works out to be ± $6 for either one. A deciding factor, for
> me, is the amount I can buy it in. Kirkland brand EVOO comes in one 2
> liter jug, but I have to buy two 2 liter jugs of Kirkland's Pure OO
> and I prefer buying one at a time because I do not want to store that
> amount of oil.
>
> So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
> oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
> not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
> switch?


With cost not being a factor, the only reason I can think of to use the
pure/refined is for baking where you might otherwise use a different
flavorless oil like Canola.
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> With cost not being a factor, the only reason I can think of
> to use the pure/refined is for baking where you might
> otherwise use a different flavorless oil like Canola.


I would prefer to use either safflower or sunflower to Canola.

Also I would NOT use EVOO as a cooking oil; the taste is too
strong. I use it for salads only. I buy Greek pure olive oil for
cooking in the 3 litre containers. I find it does a great job. I
use safflower oil for baking.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> Someone here (I forget who, sorry) has asked several times if people
> have forgotten about "Pure Olive Oil" whenever EVOO is mentioned... I
> never forgot about it because I didn't know about it existed. I knew
> about regular, refined OO, but not anything called "pure". Well, I
> happened to go to Costco two days in a row this week and looked at
> oils each time. Yep, they sell "Pure Olive Oil". I looked it up and
> apparently it's a mixture of refined olive oil and EVOO... if there's
> a specific percentage of each, I missed that part. In any case, I
> worked the math and buying Kirkland brand EVOO or Kirkland brand Pure
> Olive Oil works out to be ± $6 for either one. A deciding factor, for
> me, is the amount I can buy it in. Kirkland brand EVOO comes in one 2
> liter jug, but I have to buy two 2 liter jugs of Kirkland's Pure OO
> and I prefer buying one at a time because I do not want to store that
> amount of oil.
>
> So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
> oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
> not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
> switch?
>



hey, that was me! I wonder if anyone reads my posts.

If the cost is the same, the EVOO is not very good stuff.

Theoretically, there is more "bad chemistry" formed when EVOO heats up, so
it should not be used for high temp cooking. But who knows with the EVOO
you are buying at that price.


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Dittos. The XXX Virgin stuff is not made for cooking. It can make your whole house smell like burned olives. We use a 50/50 mix of Kroger light and coconut oil. for high temp frying and save the good Greek Olive Oil for salads and vinaigrette's etc. Remember the only olives which come from Italy are the ones the Greeks won't eat. Canola (aka rapeseed oil) is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature. Regular coconut oil alone is for baking.


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On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
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> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
> > switch?

>
> Taste?
> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
> much/overpowering.
>
> Horses for courses and all that.


Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
not an issue either. Thanks.

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> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
>> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
>> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
>> > switch?

>>
>> Taste?
>> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
>> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
>> much/overpowering.
>>
>> Horses for courses and all that.

>
> Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
> had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
> used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
> anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
> not an issue either. Thanks.
>


as I said, if you are paying so little for EVOO, it is not the good stuff.
The good stuff has a much stronger flavor, costs more, and should not be
used for cooking - bad chemistry when heated, expensive, and looses some or
much of its flavor when heated, making it a waste.


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> Canola (aka rapeseed oil)
> > is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature.

>
> rubbish. Canola oil is not rapeseed oil, and is quite healthy.


Canola is most certainly rapeseed oil, it's a trademark brand name for
it. As for it being poison, that is certainly BS. Wikipedia seems to
have a decent article on it, including the differences between the wild
rapeseed and the commercial variety used.
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:55:04 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
> >>
> >> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
> >> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
> >> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
> >> > switch?
> >>
> >> Taste?
> >> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
> >> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
> >> much/overpowering.
> >>
> >> Horses for courses and all that.

> >
> > Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
> > had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
> > used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
> > anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
> > not an issue either. Thanks.
> >

>
> as I said, if you are paying so little for EVOO, it is not the good stuff.
> The good stuff has a much stronger flavor, costs more, and should not be
> used for cooking - bad chemistry when heated, expensive, and looses some or
> much of its flavor when heated, making it a waste.
>

If you think you're shaming me, you're not. My EVOO is certified by
UC Davis and is the real thing.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
>> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
>> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
>> > switch?

>>
>> Taste?
>> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
>> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
>> much/overpowering.
>>
>> Horses for courses and all that.

>
> Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
> had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
> used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
> anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
> not an issue either. Thanks.


I use it for cooking too, even though I know that I shouldn't.


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On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 22:47:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
> >>
> >> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
> >> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
> >> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
> >> > switch?
> >>
> >> Taste?
> >> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
> >> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
> >> much/overpowering.
> >>
> >> Horses for courses and all that.

> >
> > Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
> > had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
> > used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
> > anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
> > not an issue either. Thanks.

>
> I use it for cooking too, even though I know that I shouldn't.
>

Shouldn't? It's not expensive, do it with a clear conscience.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 22:47:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
>> >> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
>> >> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
>> >> > switch?
>> >>
>> >> Taste?
>> >> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
>> >> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
>> >> much/overpowering.
>> >>
>> >> Horses for courses and all that.
>> >
>> > Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
>> > had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
>> > used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
>> > anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
>> > not an issue either. Thanks.

>>
>> I use it for cooking too, even though I know that I shouldn't.
>>

> Shouldn't? It's not expensive, do it with a clear conscience.


They say that it is better to cook with the regular stuff and I used to do
that, saving the EVOO for salads and stuff but... My cupboard is too small
to have all that oil in it. I used to use the light stuff too. Now I just
use the EVOO for everything.


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:55:04 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:42:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > So, I have this question for you: I use EVOO as my everyday cooking
>> >> > oil. I use it for salad dressing and I saute with it. Since cost is
>> >> > not a factor, can you think of any compelling reason why I should
>> >> > switch?
>> >>
>> >> Taste?
>> >> There are uses where EVOO is desirable for its stronger flavor/taste.
>> >> Likewise there are uses where the flavor/taste of EVOO is too
>> >> much/overpowering.
>> >>
>> >> Horses for courses and all that.
>> >
>> > Taste isn't a factor either. I used to think it was too strong and
>> > had to cut it with a neutral oil when I made salad dressing, but I've
>> > used it at full strength for so many years that I don't even notice it
>> > anymore. No one I serve it to has ever complained, so that part is
>> > not an issue either. Thanks.
>> >

>>
>> as I said, if you are paying so little for EVOO, it is not the good
>> stuff.
>> The good stuff has a much stronger flavor, costs more, and should not be
>> used for cooking - bad chemistry when heated, expensive, and looses some
>> or
>> much of its flavor when heated, making it a waste.
>>

> If you think you're shaming me, you're not. My EVOO is certified by
> UC Davis and is the real thing.
>


no, I am not trying to shame you. Maybe I'll try it. some EVOO is priced
like gold.


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"Pete C." > wrote in message
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>
> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>> Canola (aka rapeseed oil)
>> > is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature.

>>
>> rubbish. Canola oil is not rapeseed oil, and is quite healthy.

>
> Canola is most certainly rapeseed oil, it's a trademark brand name for
> it.


Canola was originally a trademark, but it is now a generic term.

Canola was developed through conventional plant breeding from rapeseed, an
oilseed plant already used in ancient civilization as a fuel. The word
"rape" in rapeseed comes from the Latin word rapum meaning turnip. Turnip,
rutabaga, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, mustard, and many other vegetables are
related to the two natural canola varieties commonly grown, which are
cultivars of Brassica napus and Brassica rapa. The change in name serves to
distinguish it from natural rapeseed oil, which has much higher erucic acid
content.


it is not accurate to simply call Canola oil "rapeseed oil".



As for it being poison, that is certainly BS. Wikipedia seems to
> have a decent article on it, including the differences between the wild
> rapeseed and the commercial variety used.





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Pico Rico wrote:
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> "sf" > wrote:
> > If you think you're shaming me, you're not. My EVOO is certified by
> > UC Davis and is the real thing.
> >

>
> no, I am not trying to shame you. Maybe I'll try it. some EVOO is priced
> like gold.


If you personally like some food product, it doesn't matter what others
think or approve.

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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 04:19:07 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
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> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:55:04 -0700, "Pico Rico" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:40:27 -0500, heyjoe >
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> as I said, if you are paying so little for EVOO, it is not the good
> >> stuff.
> >> The good stuff has a much stronger flavor, costs more, and should not be
> >> used for cooking - bad chemistry when heated, expensive, and looses some
> >> or
> >> much of its flavor when heated, making it a waste.
> >>

> > If you think you're shaming me, you're not. My EVOO is certified by
> > UC Davis and is the real thing.
> >

>
> no, I am not trying to shame you. Maybe I'll try it. some EVOO is priced
> like gold.
>


I'm starting to pay more attention to information about smoke points.
I know I don't push my EVOO too far and have grape seed/avocado oil to
use if I think I'm going to be using higher heat than EVOO can
tolerate; but I have my eye on a new kitchen toy anyway - for
curiosity's sake more than any other reason.

http://www.amazon.com/SainSonic-Non-...ref=pd_cp_hi_3

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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 02:40:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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> Now I just use the EVOO for everything.


I have several oils and many different EVOOs, but the less expensive
stuff is what I use to cook with. I haven't compared costs recently
because I don't care, but I'm pretty sure it's close enough to the
cost of the "less desirable" (aka: crap) oils, like vegetable and
canola, that my accountant (if I had one) wouldn't have a heart attack
and according to what I googled, it is cost effective compared to the
price of peanut oil, which I don't need to use as an everyday cooking
oil anyway.

2 liters Kirkland Signature EVOO (UC Davis approved) = $13.13
2 liters Lion & Globe Peanut Oil = $16.79
24oz Planters Peanut Oil = $8.19
so 1 liter is approx $11.60 x 2 = $23.20
or 2.5 x $8.19 = approx. $20.50

Any way you want to work the numbers, Kirkland's Signature EVOO wins.

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Canola (aka rapeseed oil)
is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature.


rubbish. Canola oil is not rapeseed oil, and is quite healthy.


Canola is most certainly rapeseed oil, it's a trademark brand name for
it. As for it being poison, that is certainly BS. Wikipedia seems to
have a decent article on it, including the differences between the wild
rapeseed and the commercial variety used.
Ok..one sorta rational head in the house..lol Wikki is full of sheet on many topics.

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On Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:48:12 PM UTC-5, Pico Rico wrote:
> "bigwheel" > wrote in message
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> ...
>
> >

>
> > 'Michel Boucher[_3_ Wrote:

>
> >> ;1837880']"Pete C." wrote in

>
> >> .com:

>
> >> -

>
> >> With cost not being a factor, the only reason I can think of

>
> >> to use the pure/refined is for baking where you might

>
> >> otherwise use a different flavorless oil like Canola.-

>
> >>

>
> >> I would prefer to use either safflower or sunflower to Canola.

>
> >>

>
> >> Also I would NOT use EVOO as a cooking oil; the taste is too

>
> >> strong. I use it for salads only. I buy Greek pure olive oil for

>
> >> cooking in the 3 litre containers. I find it does a great job. I

>
> >> use safflower oil for baking.

>
> >>

>
> >> --

>
> >>

>
> >> Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected

>
> >> from happening.

>
> >>

>
> >> -- Barbara Tober

>
> >

>
> > Dittos. The XXX Virgin stuff is not made for cooking. It can make your

>
> > whole house smell like burned olives. We use a 50/50 mix of Kroger light

>
> > and coconut oil. for high temp frying and save the good Greek Olive Oil

>
> > for salads and vinaigrette's etc.

>
>
>
> Remember the only olives which come
>
> > from Italy are the ones the Greeks won't eat. ??? WTF?

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Canola (aka rapeseed oil)
>
> > is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature.

>
>
>
> rubbish. Canola oil is not rapeseed oil, and is quite healthy.


Canola is rapeseed oil from plants that have been bred to be almost devoid of erucic acid, which tastes nasty. Conventional Canola is NOT healthful, but the new high oleic Canola IS. It was similarly developed through conventional, non-GMO, breeding. I prefer high oleic sunflower to high oleic Canola or High oleic soy because of the flavor.

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Bryan > wrote in
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> Canola is rapeseed oil from plants that have been bred to be
> almost devoid of erucic acid, which tastes nasty.
> Conventional Canola is NOT healthful, but the new high oleic
> Canola IS. It was similarly developed through conventional,
> non-GMO, breeding. I prefer high oleic sunflower to high
> oleic Canola or High oleic soy because of the flavor.


Rapeseed oil was used for over a century to lubricate steam
engines.

There was a to-do many many years ago back when John George
Diefenbaker was still alive over the welcome sign to the town of
Tisdale, SK, which read "Tisdale the land of rape and honey."
Feminists objected to the glorification of rape on a town sign,
obviously unaware (or perhaps aware and ignoring it) that the
rape referred to here was a plant whose name came from the latin
for turnip, "rapa". Ignoring etymology will, as I've said
elsewhere, get you into all sorts of trouble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisdale,_Saskatchewan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed

"The Land of Rape and Honey is the third studio album by
industrial metal band Ministry, released in 1988 on Sire Records.
The image on the cover appears to be an electronically processed
version of a photo of a burned corpse in the Leipzig-Thekla sub-
camp of Buchenwald. This album is the band's first attempt at
industrial metal, as opposed to their previous albums which were
more electronically influenced."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_of_Rape_and_Honey

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> Ignoring etymology will, as I've said
> elsewhere, get you into all sorts of trouble.


God, what a pompous ass... as was dearly departed JGD.

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> There was a to-do many many years ago back when John George
> Diefenbaker was still alive over the welcome sign to the town of
> Tisdale, SK, which read "Tisdale the land of rape and honey."
> Feminists objected to the glorification of rape on a town sign,
> obviously unaware (or perhaps aware and ignoring it) that the
> rape referred to here was a plant whose name came from the latin
> for turnip, "rapa". Ignoring etymology will, as I've said
> elsewhere, get you into all sorts of trouble.


Reminds me of an article I read in the late 1990s (when the Internet
had only recently become known to the masses). The idiot author
denounced the male denizens of the Internet for objectifying women by
referring to photos they'd share of women as 'gifts'. The author took
that to mean that they were 'giving' each other symbolic 'ownership'
of the women in the photos.
The _idiot_ author reached this conclusion by assuming that the file
extension .gif stood for 'gift'.

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On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:15:24 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
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> On 6/5/2013 9:09 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
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> > There was a to-do many many years ago back when John George
> > Diefenbaker was still alive over the welcome sign to the town of
> > Tisdale, SK, which read "Tisdale the land of rape and honey."
> > Feminists objected to the glorification of rape on a town sign,
> > obviously unaware (or perhaps aware and ignoring it) that the
> > rape referred to here was a plant whose name came from the latin
> > for turnip, "rapa". Ignoring etymology will, as I've said
> > elsewhere, get you into all sorts of trouble.

>
> Reminds me of an article I read in the late 1990s (when the Internet
> had only recently become known to the masses). The idiot author
> denounced the male denizens of the Internet for objectifying women by
> referring to photos they'd share of women as 'gifts'. The author took
> that to mean that they were 'giving' each other symbolic 'ownership'
> of the women in the photos.
> The _idiot_ author reached this conclusion by assuming that the file
> extension .gif stood for 'gift'.


That's ignorant, not idiot.

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On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:55:50 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:15:24 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
>
> wrote:
>
>
> > The _idiot_ author reached this conclusion by assuming that the file

>
> > extension .gif stood for 'gift'.

>
>
>
> That's ignorant, not idiot.
>

It can't be both?


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On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:07:46 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust
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>On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:55:50 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:15:24 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > The _idiot_ author reached this conclusion by assuming that the file

>>
>> > extension .gif stood for 'gift'.

>>
>>
>>
>> That's ignorant, not idiot.
>>

>It can't be both?
>

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On Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:48:12 PM UTC-5, Pico Rico wrote:
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'Michel Boucher[_3_ Wrote:


;1837880']"Pete C."
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With cost not being a factor, the only reason I can think of


to use the pure/refined is for baking where you might


otherwise use a different flavorless oil like Canola.-




I would prefer to use either safflower or sunflower to Canola.




Also I would NOT use EVOO as a cooking oil; the taste is too


strong. I use it for salads only. I buy Greek pure olive oil for


cooking in the 3 litre containers. I find it does a great job. I


use safflower oil for baking.




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Dittos. The XXX Virgin stuff is not made for cooking. It can make your


whole house smell like burned olives. We use a 50/50 mix of Kroger light


and coconut oil. for high temp frying and save the good Greek Olive Oil


for salads and vinaigrette's etc.




Remember the only olives which come

from Italy are the ones the Greeks won't eat. ??? WTF?










Canola (aka rapeseed oil)

is a poison. I would not not feed it to any living creature.




rubbish. Canola oil is not rapeseed oil, and is quite healthy.


Canola is rapeseed oil from plants that have been bred to be almost devoid of erucic acid, which tastes nasty. Conventional Canola is NOT healthful, but the new high oleic Canola IS. It was similarly developed through conventional, non-GMO, breeding. I prefer high oleic sunflower to high oleic Canola or High oleic soy because of the flavor.

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The designer rapeseed oil would still seem to qualify as poly unsaturated which as we all know by now it not useful for good health. That is why the high saturated fats are now the rage...Lard..Coconut and Palm oils and or the mono unsaturates like olive and flax oil. Avocado oil maybe? They do not do the free radical production as per the polys.
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