On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
snip

>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>both work for the same team IMO.

Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
(Sermon over)
Janet US

On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>snip
>
>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>>both work for the same team IMO.
>
>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
>(Sermon over)
>Janet US

With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.

On Monday, June 3, 2013 5:58:13 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>
> >snip
>
> >
>
> >>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>
> >>both work for the same team IMO.
>
> >
>
> >Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
>
> >we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
>
> >involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
>
> >(Sermon over)
>
> >Janet US
>
>
>
> With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.

With all due respect (i.e. none), as soon as anybody gives two squirts about what your backward hick ass thinks about our country, I'll let you know. ****.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:58:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>snip
>>
>>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>>>both work for the same team IMO.
>>
>>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
>>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
>>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
>>(Sermon over)
>>Janet US
>
>With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.

Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that attitude
because if frees them up from reading, listening, and following what
is actually going on and most importantly it frees them from having to
get out and make a decision and vote. Just sayin'
Janet US

John J > wrote in
:

>>Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that
>>attitude because if frees them up from reading, listening, and
>>following what is actually going on and most importantly it
>>frees them from having to get out and make a decision and
>>vote. Just sayin' Janet US
>
> Don't you have a Green party or something else half decent?

They have many parties but unlike other industrialized nations,
they don't elect any of them. Canada has five parties sitting in
the House: Conservatives, Liberals, New Democrats, Bloc québécois
and Green. True the Green party member is the leader and sits
essentially as an independent (because you need so many members to
get party status) be she was elected and is doing a great job
compared to some of the other numbskulls.

--

Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected
from happening.

-- Barbara Tober

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:23:33 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:13:34 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:58:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>snip
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
> >>>>both work for the same team IMO.
> >>>
> >>>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
> >>>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
> >>>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
> >>>(Sermon over)
> >>>Janet US
> >>
> >>With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.
> >
> >Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that attitude
> >because if frees them up from reading, listening, and following what
> >is actually going on and most importantly it frees them from having to
> >get out and make a decision and vote. Just sayin'
> >Janet US
>
> Don't you have a Green party or something else half decent?

They don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and drain votes
away from the candidate that should win - the result of a split vote
puts the other party in office which is even worse for the country.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:18:57 PM UTC-4, John J wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:50:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:23:33 +1000, John J > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:13:34 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:58:13 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> >>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>
> >> >>>snip
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>
> >> >>>>both work for the same team IMO.
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
>
> >> >>>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
>
> >> >>>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
>
> >> >>>(Sermon over)
>
> >> >>>Janet US
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.
>
> >> >
>
> >> >Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that attitude
>
> >> >because if frees them up from reading, listening, and following what
>
> >> >is actually going on and most importantly it frees them from having to
>
> >> >get out and make a decision and vote. Just sayin'
>
> >> >Janet US
>
> >>
>
> >> Don't you have a Green party or something else half decent?
>
> >
>
> >They don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and drain votes
>
> >away from the candidate that should win - the result of a split vote
>
> >puts the other party in office which is even worse for the country.
>
>
>
> Maybe it will lead to change, because your 2 party system doesn't seem
>
> to be working.
>
>
>
> --
>
> John

Hey, ****boy, why don't you worry about your own pathetic ****ry?

On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:18:57 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:50:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:23:33 +1000, John J > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:13:34 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:58:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >> >>>snip
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
> >> >>>>both work for the same team IMO.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
> >> >>>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
> >> >>>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
> >> >>>(Sermon over)
> >> >>>Janet US
> >> >>
> >> >>With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.
> >> >
> >> >Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that attitude
> >> >because if frees them up from reading, listening, and following what
> >> >is actually going on and most importantly it frees them from having to
> >> >get out and make a decision and vote. Just sayin'
> >> >Janet US
> >>
> >> Don't you have a Green party or something else half decent?
> >
> >They don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and drain votes
> >away from the candidate that should win - the result of a split vote
> >puts the other party in office which is even worse for the country.
>
> Maybe it will lead to change, because your 2 party system doesn't seem
> to be working.

That was the general idea and look at what happened. The party that
won started two unfunded wars, created a situation where a petroleum
company thought it could wreck the environment of the Gulf (and
elsewhere) with impunity and they're still pushing the Keystone
Pipeline. Rational people in the other party have learned their
lesson and will work within the system we have now, not go off and
form splinter parties the way people who live in other countries
*think* we should.

Why do you think the Tea Party still hasn't split from the Republican
party? I'll tell you why: there's strength in numbers.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 21:05:41 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:43:53 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>
> You can't blame Nader for the fact that half your people voted for
> George Bush. A man who, in any other "civilized" country, would be the
> assistant manager of a McDonald's license in a small rural town.

Half MY people? You're not an American?

I can explain how GWB stole the first election, the second was because
Kerry didn't turn out the vote. Minnesota even gave one electoral
vote to Edwards! As far as the red states go, sheeple can be
manipulated into voting against their own best interests. When you
only hear the Faux news talking heads slant on current events,
eventually you're going to believe it's the God's honest truth. Look
where the Keystone pipeline is going. Right through Bush/Cheney-land
and over a very sensitive aquifer. A rupture in that pipeline will
pollute the aquifer and they will squawk to high heaven about poor
little them, mark my words. Oil companies (+ the Koch Bros) don't
care a whit about people or the environment, they only care about
corporate profit and how to manipulate sheeple into letting them do
whatever they want.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:18:57 +1000, John J > wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:50:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:23:33 +1000, John J > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:13:34 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:58:13 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:50:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:53:21 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>> >>>snip
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Thanks SF. I don't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats, they
>>> >>>>both work for the same team IMO.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Such a stance isn't helpful to our country. Two party is the system
>>> >>>we've got. Shaking your head and saying there's no point in
>>> >>>involvement is the short road to our country's downfall.
>>> >>>(Sermon over)
>>> >>>Janet US
>>> >>
>>> >>With all due respect, it is just sad to hear an attitude like that.
>>> >
>>> >Most often people who have your take on politics adopt that attitude
>>> >because if frees them up from reading, listening, and following what
>>> >is actually going on and most importantly it frees them from having to
>>> >get out and make a decision and vote. Just sayin'
>>> >Janet US
>>>
>>> Don't you have a Green party or something else half decent?
>>
>>They don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and drain votes
>>away from the candidate that should win - the result of a split vote
>>puts the other party in office which is even worse for the country.
>
>Maybe it will lead to change, because your 2 party system doesn't seem
>to be working.

It doesn't, but then ours isn't a whole lot better either, despite
having a third 'option' which is basically the same as the other two.

On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 21:05:41 +1000, John J > wrote:

>You can't blame Nader for the fact that half your people voted for
>George Bush. A man who, in any other "civilized" country, would be the
>assistant manager of a McDonald's license in a small rural town.

*Tony Abbott* ahem...

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:57:33 +1000, John J > wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 05:45:56 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 21:05:41 +1000, John J > wrote:
>>
>>>You can't blame Nader for the fact that half your people voted for
>>>George Bush. A man who, in any other "civilized" country, would be the
>>>assistant manager of a McDonald's license in a small rural town.
>>
>>*Tony Abbott* ahem...
>
>Yes, but he hasn't won an election yet. Not yet...

Yeah well, unless there's a miracle... and a bloody big one at that...

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:31:01 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:30:58 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 21:05:41 +1000, John J > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:43:53 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> You can't blame Nader for the fact that half your people voted for
> >> George Bush. A man who, in any other "civilized" country, would be the
> >> assistant manager of a McDonald's license in a small rural town.
> >
> >Half MY people? You're not an American?
> >
> >I can explain how GWB stole the first election, the second was because
> >Kerry didn't turn out the vote. Minnesota even gave one electoral
> >vote to Edwards! As far as the red states go, sheeple can be
> >manipulated into voting against their own best interests. When you
> >only hear the Faux news talking heads slant on current events,
> >eventually you're going to believe it's the God's honest truth. Look
> >where the Keystone pipeline is going. Right through Bush/Cheney-land
> >and over a very sensitive aquifer. A rupture in that pipeline will
> >pollute the aquifer and they will squawk to high heaven about poor
> >little them, mark my words. Oil companies (+ the Koch Bros) don't
> >care a whit about people or the environment, they only care about
> >corporate profit and how to manipulate sheeple into letting them do
> >whatever they want.
>
> But it's their choice to only watch Fox News.

I don't live in that part of the country, so I don't know what choices
they have. I do know that Fox is preached from the pulpit and I know
that if that slant is all you hear, you tend to believe it's the
truth. I do know that some teenage whiz that was the darling of the
conservative party when he was in high school, but changed his mind
after he went to college because he had more information to draw from.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:58:45 +1000, John J > wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 05:43:10 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >
> >It doesn't, but then ours isn't a whole lot better either, despite
> >having a third 'option' which is basically the same as the other two.
>
> Maybe I should have written "_the_ 2 party system" doesn't work.

Why would you say that?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.