sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I think Chevy's salsa is weird tasting
>
> I know Chevy's had a "chipotle" salsa at one point years ago. I can't
> stand chipotle, so I didn't like it - but I'd just ask for their
> "green" sauce instead. It wasn't that big of a big deal for me. I
> think they put pico de gallo on the table now.
>
>> and I've no clue what that bad tasting corn lump is that they put on
>> the plates.
>
> Not sure what they call it, probably corn pudding, and I LOVE it.

Really? To me it is just a soggy mess.

On 6/20/2013 10:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/20/2013 9:45 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:03:13 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/2013 3:49 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chipotle's GMO ingredients:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The popular burrito chain Chipotle Mexican Grill is widely
>>>>>>> considered a healthy place to eat, and is known for promoting
>>>>>>> local produce and offering calorie counts on its menus. But
>>>>>>> Chipotle has revealed that genetically modified organisms (GMOs)
>>>>>>> are present in 12 of the 24 ingredients it lists on the
>>>>>>> company's website. According to The Huffington Post, GMOs can be
>>>>>>> found in all tortillas, rice and all of the varieties of meat,
>>>>>>> except pork carnitas. To its credit, Chipotle is the only
>>>>>>> fast-food chain that's identifying GMOs (though it's only on
>>>>>>> their website, not on store menus).
>>>>>
>>>>> Chipotle is a boring brand created and run by someone with no
>>>>> culinary credentials that targets PYVs who are afraid to eat at a
>>>>> real taqueria where they speak little english and don't have
>>>>> trendy hipster friendly decor. They have over expanded and will
>>>>> implode soon.
>>>>
>>>> Chipotle's shops average 2.1 million$/year in revenues.
>>>>
>>>> Qdoba's make 1/2 that and they are closing some restaurants.
>>>>
>>>> Chipotle has nothing but increasing market share ahead. They have
>>>> 1,447 units to Qdoba's 647.
>>>>
>>>> Implode soon?
>>>>
>>>> I very seriously doubt it.
>>>
>>> He has managed to turn the topic away from the honesty of a
>>> restaurant informing their customers about which menu items contain
>>> GMOs and the fact that Chipotle says they are going to try to change
>>> it.
>>
>> Sound observation.
>>
>>> Nobody cares how he thinks the stock market will react. He's not Ben
>>> Bernanke; he's just a red neck with a Teaparty POV.
>>
>> Lol.
>>
>> I think Chipotle has a bright future even if they don't make it to
>> 25,000 shops like Subway has.
>>
>> These are the kind of places I'll choose for a low fat road meal when
>> I'm traveling, and I appreciate the fact I have something other than
>> grease pits out there to frequent.
>
> Not me. Can't remember the last time I ate in a Subway. Would not try
> Chipotle and made the mistake of trying Qdoba. Never again! I don't make
> it a point to eat low fat but my diet overall, is. So much so that
> dieticians used to tell me that I had to add fat to it. I don't necessarily
> think that low fat is the way to go unless you have some specific medical
> condition that warrants it. I just happen to prefer the more plain, whole
> foods. Like vegetables. And those have little to no fat. When we travel,
> I always have cans of beans with me. I'd sooner open a can of green beans,
> a can of kidney beans and to round out the meal, maybe a little applesauce
> or canned pears before I'd eat that stuff. Of course I would rather find a
> farm stand or grocery and get some nice raw veggies but that's not always an
> option.
>
>
Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm
glad it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design
is perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and
sour cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.

On 6/20/2013 10:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:53:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> GMO ingredients aside, the nearest Chipotle Mexican Grill is in north
>>> Charleston. I'll sure as heck never have a reason to find out if
>>> it's good, bad or indifferent.
>>
>> Chipotle is as "Mexican" as Chevy's. Their customers know that and
>> don't care. Only a few idiots on rfc (who have absolutely nothing of
>> value to contribute to any conversation) make it an issue.
>
> Ugh, Chevy's! Can not stand that place. My husband loves it but...he also
> doesn't like most Mexican food. He does like the taqueria stuff but doesn't
> usually like the other places that I like. I think Chevy's salsa is weird
> tasting and I've no clue what that bad tasting corn lump is that they put on
> the plates. The one hear went out of business years ago.
>
>
Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.

On 6/21/2013 4:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/20/2013 10:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> casa bona wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/2013 3:49 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chipotle's GMO ingredients:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The popular burrito chain Chipotle Mexican Grill is widely
>>>>>>> considered a healthy place to eat, and is known for promoting
>>>>>>> local produce and offering calorie counts on its menus. But
>>>>>>> Chipotle has revealed that genetically modified organisms (GMOs)
>>>>>>> are present in 12 of the 24 ingredients it lists on the company's
>>>>>>> website. According to The Huffington Post, GMOs can be found in
>>>>>>> all tortillas, rice and all of the varieties of meat, except pork
>>>>>>> carnitas. To its credit, Chipotle is the only fast-food chain
>>>>>>> that's identifying GMOs (though it's only on their website, not
>>>>>>> on store menus).
>>>>>
>>>>> Chipotle is a boring brand created and run by someone with no
>>>>> culinary credentials that targets PYVs who are afraid to eat at a
>>>>> real taqueria where they speak little english and don't have trendy
>>>>> hipster friendly decor. They have over expanded and will implode
>>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>> Chipotle's shops average 2.1 million$/year in revenues.
>>>>
>>>> Qdoba's make 1/2 that and they are closing some restaurants.
>>>>
>>>> Chipotle has nothing but increasing market share ahead. They have
>>>> 1,447 units to Qdoba's 647.
>>>>
>>>> Implode soon?
>>>>
>>>> I very seriously doubt it.
>>>>
>>>> Subway has 25,000 US shops and opened 1,200 in 2012 alone.
>>>>
>>>> Lots of room for growth yet.
>>>
>>> They put in a new Subway near the Whole Foods in Lynnwood. I
>>> commented once again to daughter that nobody was in there. She
>>> said, yeah and she had never seen an employee in there either. Not
>>> sure where the employee is. Surely there is only one and he/she
>>> probably fell asleep out of boredom! We have gone by there many
>>> times around dinner and lunch time and...nobody!
>>
>> How bizarre!
>>
>>> There is another one near her dance studio and although we do see
>>> people in there sometimes, they are not very busy. Often I see the
>>> employees standing by the front glass windows, looking out as if
>>> they are searching for customers. I have heard that there are
>>> issues with at least one of the employees in there and for that
>>> reason, most of the people from the dance studio won't eat there. But
>>> their sandwiches are not appealing to me. If we want a
>>> purchased sandwich, we go next door to Albertsons. They have one
>>> kind that they sell on really good whole wheat bread and it has
>>> quality ingredients. I don't think they make it there. But it's
>>> $4.99 and contains a lot more meat, better meat and cheese and it's
>>> organic.
>>
>> I like the Subway breads, they're always fresh and well-baked and tend
>> to be pretty tasty.
>
> Really? I don't like them at *all*! Although they smell good when baking,
> they just don't appeal to me. But then I am not a fan of bread in general
> and especially not sub sandwiches.

Odd that you'd like the smell, but not the bread itself.

Some folks are like that with coffee, but I've never heard of it with bread.


>> I guess it's fair to ding them a bit on the quality of the cold cuts,
>> but overall I get a pretty good value for what I pay.
>
> I must disagree. I picked up two sandwiches for my parents and hated
> watching them put the measly amount of toppings on there. I thought about
> how many sandwiches I could make for the same amount of money if I had
> bought the ingredients at the grocery store.
>
>
But they have to make a profit, so it's not good equivalency.

On 6/21/2013 4:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:43:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Would not try Chipotle
>>
>> Again, that's not the point of the OP. It's your choice not to eat
>> there and it's not based on the presence or not of GMOs. The rest of
>> us, some of whom might even LIKE Chipotle, now have more information
>> to base our choices on.
>
> I'm sure *you* might like them because you like to eat burrtios out of hand.
> I don't.
>
>
It's a versatile wrap, but done enchilada style with green chile and
melted cheddar is the best!

On 6/21/2013 7:41 AM, Mirror of TRVTH wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Chipotle's GMO ingredients:
>>>
>>> The popular burrito chain Chipotle Mexican Grill is widely considered a healthy place to eat, and is known for promoting local produce and offering calorie counts on its menus. But Chipotle has revealed that genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are present in 12 of the 24 ingredients it lists on the company's website. According to The Huffington Post, GMOs can be found in all tortillas, rice and all of the varieties of meat, except pork carnitas. To its credit, Chipotle is the only fast-food chain that's identifying GMOs (though it's only on their website, not on store menus).
>>>
>>>
>>> Just so's you knows.
>>
>> Thank you. I wish more restaurants would fess up like that. Maybe a
>> chink could be kicked into Monsanto's armor if enough restaurants did
>> that and the general public started requesting organic ingredients.
>
> Who the hell cares. All the GMO hysteria from the usual
> suspects is just that -- hysteria, piggybacking on the
> scientific illiteracy of the mobs. Perception is reality.
>
> After 2 or 3 decades, the best they come up with is "Oh,
> but.. but.. we just don't know!"
>

Honestly is that why they have that international seed bank up in Svaalberg?

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:10:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:43:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Would not try Chipotle
> >
> > Again, that's not the point of the OP. It's your choice not to eat
> > there and it's not based on the presence or not of GMOs. The rest of
> > us, some of whom might even LIKE Chipotle, now have more information
> > to base our choices on.
>
> I'm sure *you* might like them because you like to eat burrtios out of hand.

I don't recall saying *I* liked Chipotle. Unlike you, I'm perfectly
capable of not making a thread all about me.

> I don't.
>
You are free to use a knife and fork - they are provided by the
establishment. They even have a table & chair option.

Everyone else, now has more information to base their choice on and it
has absolutely NOTHING to do with your problem.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:11:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I think Chevy's salsa is weird tasting
> >
> > I know Chevy's had a "chipotle" salsa at one point years ago. I can't
> > stand chipotle, so I didn't like it - but I'd just ask for their
> > "green" sauce instead. It wasn't that big of a big deal for me. I
> > think they put pico de gallo on the table now.
> >
> >> and I've no clue what that bad tasting corn lump is that they put on
> >> the plates.
> >
> > Not sure what they call it, probably corn pudding, and I LOVE it.
>
> Really? To me it is just a soggy mess.
>

That's not surprising at all because you don't like most things.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I must disagree. I picked up two sandwiches for my parents and hated
> watching them put the measly amount of toppings on there. I thought about
> how many sandwiches I could make for the same amount of money if I had
> bought the ingredients at the grocery store.

I've only eaten at Subway a few times but I thought they gave you a decent
deal. choice of 3-4 diffent breads and choice of toppings and only for $5.
It worked for me.

G.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.

I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I just can't see any reason for me to go in there at all.

I don't either, so exactly why are you participating in this thread?

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 6/21/2013 11:01 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.
>
> I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
> years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
> absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
> can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
> and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
> split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
> like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
> weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
> tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
> in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.
>
Hmmm, perhaps they're improved. I may swing by one some day to see.

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Pete C. wrote:

gh it's only on their website, not on store menus).
>
> > >
>
>
>
> Chipotle is a boring brand created and run by someone with no culinary
>
> credentials that targets PYVs

PYV = ?

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:20:47 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/21/2013 11:01 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.
> >
> > I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
> > years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
> > absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
> > can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
> > and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
> > split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
> > like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
> > weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
> > tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
> > in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.
> >
> Hmmm, perhaps they're improved. I may swing by one some day to see.

I can't vouch for your area, but I think they should be able to turn
out decent chain Mexicanish food in NM.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 6/21/2013 11:44 AM, Mirror of TRVTH wrote:
> casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2013 7:41 AM, Mirror of TRVTH wrote:
>>> sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chipotle's GMO ingredients:
>>>>>
>>>>> The popular burrito chain Chipotle Mexican Grill is widely considered a healthy place to eat, and is known for promoting local produce and offering calorie counts on its menus. But Chipotle has revealed that genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are present in 12 of the 24 ingredients it lists on the company's website. According to The Huffington Post, GMOs can be found in all tortillas, rice and all of the varieties of meat, except pork carnitas. To its credit, Chipotle is the only fast-food chain that's identifying GMOs (though it's only on their website, not on store menus).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so's you knows.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. I wish more restaurants would fess up like that. Maybe a
>>>> chink could be kicked into Monsanto's armor if enough restaurants did
>>>> that and the general public started requesting organic ingredients.
>>>
>>> Who the hell cares. All the GMO hysteria from the usual
>>> suspects is just that -- hysteria, piggybacking on the
>>> scientific illiteracy of the mobs. Perception is reality.
>>>
>>> After 2 or 3 decades, the best they come up with is "Oh,
>>> but.. but.. we just don't know!"
>>>
>>
>> Honestly is that why they have that international seed bank up in Svaalberg?
>
> Yes, in the hope that splicing some petunia genes into you
> might make you smarter.
>

Or at least hardier, they're quite hardy where frost is concerned ;-)

On 6/21/2013 1:54 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:20:47 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2013 11:01 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.
>>>
>>> I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
>>> years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
>>> absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
>>> can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
>>> and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
>>> split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
>>> like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
>>> weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
>>> tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
>>> in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.
>>>
>> Hmmm, perhaps they're improved. I may swing by one some day to see.
>
> I can't vouch for your area, but I think they should be able to turn
> out decent chain Mexicanish food in NM.
>

That's the thing, we have _so many_ alternatives.

It'll be somewhere I hit when traveling most likely, perhaps Vegas.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:23:10 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>
> >> Hmmm, perhaps they're improved. I may swing by one some day to see.
> >
> > I can't vouch for your area, but I think they should be able to turn
> > out decent chain Mexicanish food in NM.
> >
>
> That's the thing, we have _so many_ alternatives.
>
> It'll be somewhere I hit when traveling most likely, perhaps Vegas.

Not coming close to suggesting you *should* eat there, just saying
it's not as bad as people here love to make you think. What baffles
me is these are the same people who think nothing about shopping at
places like Walmart, so it's not like they care one way or the other.
They are just trying to sound superior.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 6/21/2013 3:38 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:23:10 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, perhaps they're improved. I may swing by one some day to see.
>>>
>>> I can't vouch for your area, but I think they should be able to turn
>>> out decent chain Mexicanish food in NM.
>>>
>>
>> That's the thing, we have _so many_ alternatives.
>>
>> It'll be somewhere I hit when traveling most likely, perhaps Vegas.
>
> Not coming close to suggesting you *should* eat there, just saying
> it's not as bad as people here love to make you think. What baffles
> me is these are the same people who think nothing about shopping at
> places like Walmart, so it's not like they care one way or the other.
> They are just trying to sound superior.
>

That's a fact, last Chevy's I was in was down in Tucson, years ago.

The menu looks a bit more interesting now.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> Odd that you'd like the smell, but not the bread itself.
>
> Some folks are like that with coffee, but I've never heard of it with
> bread.

I actually like coffee but not the smell of it.
>
>
>>> I guess it's fair to ding them a bit on the quality of the cold cuts,
>>> but overall I get a pretty good value for what I pay.
>>
>> I must disagree. I picked up two sandwiches for my parents and hated
>> watching them put the measly amount of toppings on there. I thought
>> about
>> how many sandwiches I could make for the same amount of money if I had
>> bought the ingredients at the grocery store.
>>
>>
> But they have to make a profit, so it's not good equivalency.

True. I just couldn't believe that my parent would send me out to get the
sandwiches to take back to their house to eat.

On 6/21/2013 4:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Odd that you'd like the smell, but not the bread itself.
>>
>> Some folks are like that with coffee, but I've never heard of it with
>> bread.
>
> I actually like coffee but not the smell of it.

Ok, now that is truly unique!

>>
>>
>>>> I guess it's fair to ding them a bit on the quality of the cold cuts,
>>>> but overall I get a pretty good value for what I pay.
>>>
>>> I must disagree. I picked up two sandwiches for my parents and hated
>>> watching them put the measly amount of toppings on there. I thought
>>> about
>>> how many sandwiches I could make for the same amount of money if I had
>>> bought the ingredients at the grocery store.
>>>
>>>
>> But they have to make a profit, so it's not good equivalency.
>
> True. I just couldn't believe that my parent would send me out to get the
> sandwiches to take back to their house to eat.

Older folks like things to be easy.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:10:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:43:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Would not try Chipotle
>> >
>> > Again, that's not the point of the OP. It's your choice not to eat
>> > there and it's not based on the presence or not of GMOs. The rest of
>> > us, some of whom might even LIKE Chipotle, now have more information
>> > to base our choices on.
>>
>> I'm sure *you* might like them because you like to eat burrtios out of
>> hand.
>
> I don't recall saying *I* liked Chipotle. Unlike you, I'm perfectly
> capable of not making a thread all about me.
>
>> I don't.
>>
> You are free to use a knife and fork - they are provided by the
> establishment. They even have a table & chair option.

But I do not *like* that kind of burrito! I prefer a small, wet one. A big
bloated rice filled burrito is not tasty to me. And it's waaay too many
carbs.
>
> Everyone else, now has more information to base their choice on and it
> has absolutely NOTHING to do with your problem.

My problem? What problem is that?

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm glad
> it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design is
> perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and sour
> cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.

Physicians do not normally give out dietary advice and if they are giving it
to you, you might want to ask about their credentials for doing so. I've
been told that there is no requirement for them to study nutrition. I can
not eat any dairy at all. Makes me quite sick. So I never eat it.

As for the fresh, I guess that's a matter of opinion. I got a salad at
Subway once and it was so "not" fresh that threw it away.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.
>
> I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
> years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
> absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
> can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
> and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
> split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
> like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
> weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
> tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
> in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.

The last one we ate at was in Alameda. Husband loved it but finally gave up
on going there because Angela and I would not eat the food there. We found
it all to be horrible tasting.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I just can't see any reason for me to go in there at all.
>
> I don't either, so exactly why are you participating in this thread?

I can participate wherever I want!

On 6/21/2013 5:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm glad
>> it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design is
>> perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and sour
>> cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.
>
> Physicians do not normally give out dietary advice and if they are giving it
> to you, you might want to ask about their credentials for doing so. I've
> been told that there is no requirement for them to study nutrition. I can
> not eat any dairy at all. Makes me quite sick. So I never eat it.

There are nutritional physicians of course, and they publish.

> As for the fresh, I guess that's a matter of opinion. I got a salad at
> Subway once and it was so "not" fresh that threw it away.

I didn't know Subway did salads.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/21/2013 4:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "casa bona" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Odd that you'd like the smell, but not the bread itself.
>>>
>>> Some folks are like that with coffee, but I've never heard of it with
>>> bread.
>>
>> I actually like coffee but not the smell of it.
>
> Ok, now that is truly unique!

Oh the way home tonight, daughter commented that she smelled pizza and how
it always smelled so good but doesn't taste good. I agree with that too!
Actually it wasn't pizza that she smelled but the Taco bell burrito that I
had gotten. Yes, that one is eaten out of hand but it is small and it only
had beans and sauce in it. And yes, I could easily make that at home on one
of the whole wheat tortillas that I had. But we got out of the recital
around 8:30, were hungry and I didn't want to make food at home. Luckily we
found another place nearby to eat at tomorrow to save us from going back
there again. Once a year is about my limit for them! But our whole meal
was about $6.00 so no complaints on the money front there.

>>>>> I guess it's fair to ding them a bit on the quality of the cold cuts,
>>>>> but overall I get a pretty good value for what I pay.
>>>>
>>>> I must disagree. I picked up two sandwiches for my parents and hated
>>>> watching them put the measly amount of toppings on there. I thought
>>>> about
>>>> how many sandwiches I could make for the same amount of money if I had
>>>> bought the ingredients at the grocery store.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> But they have to make a profit, so it's not good equivalency.
>>
>> True. I just couldn't believe that my parent would send me out to get
>> the
>> sandwiches to take back to their house to eat.
>
> Older folks like things to be easy.
>

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/21/2013 5:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "casa bona" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm
>>> glad
>>> it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design is
>>> perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and sour
>>> cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.
>>
>> Physicians do not normally give out dietary advice and if they are giving
>> it
>> to you, you might want to ask about their credentials for doing so. I've
>> been told that there is no requirement for them to study nutrition. I
>> can
>> not eat any dairy at all. Makes me quite sick. So I never eat it.
>
> There are nutritional physicians of course, and they publish.
>
I have never heard of them.

>> As for the fresh, I guess that's a matter of opinion. I got a salad at
>> Subway once and it was so "not" fresh that threw it away.
>
> I didn't know Subway did salads.

They do. In those days they did not have set salads. They were basically
the sandwich minus the bun, put in a bowl. Tons of shredded lettuce and
whatever other toppings you wanted. But they did have ads on TV and they
advertised some kind of salad that actually had a name to it. Guy behind
the counter had never heard of it. And this might not have been a full
service Subway because it was in a military commissary. The McDonalds next
door had a limited menu.

Their website now boasts many salads. Here is one.

http://www.subway.com/Menu/Product.a...Id=1&MenuId=36

But ours in no way resembled that. We just got wilted lettuce with some
toppings that had sat out for far too long.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:19:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:10:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:43:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Would not try Chipotle
> >> >
> >> > Again, that's not the point of the OP. It's your choice not to eat
> >> > there and it's not based on the presence or not of GMOs. The rest of
> >> > us, some of whom might even LIKE Chipotle, now have more information
> >> > to base our choices on.
> >>
> >> I'm sure *you* might like them because you like to eat burrtios out of
> >> hand.
> >
> > I don't recall saying *I* liked Chipotle. Unlike you, I'm perfectly
> > capable of not making a thread all about me.
> >
> >> I don't.
> >>
> > You are free to use a knife and fork - they are provided by the
> > establishment. They even have a table & chair option.
>
> But I do not *like* that kind of burrito! I prefer a small, wet one. A big
> bloated rice filled burrito is not tasty to me. And it's waaay too many
> carbs.

WTF are you talking about? I think you're delusional.

I don't want rice in my burrito and IMO - if you want your burrito
wet, you are better off ordering an enchilada.
> >
> > Everyone else, now has more information to base their choice on and it
> > has absolutely NOTHING to do with your problem.
>
> My problem? What problem is that?
>
You're incapable of picking up and eating a burrito with your hands
even if it's wrapped in foil and contains no rice.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:00:48 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/21/2013 5:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "casa bona" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm glad
> >> it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design is
> >> perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and sour
> >> cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.
> >
> > Physicians do not normally give out dietary advice and if they are giving it
> > to you, you might want to ask about their credentials for doing so. I've
> > been told that there is no requirement for them to study nutrition. I can
> > not eat any dairy at all. Makes me quite sick. So I never eat it.
>
> There are nutritional physicians of course, and they publish.
>
> > As for the fresh, I guess that's a matter of opinion. I got a salad at
> > Subway once and it was so "not" fresh that threw it away.
>
> I didn't know Subway did salads.

They probably do it in deference to big eaters (or their not so big
eating friends) in their lives that also want healthier choices.
Leave it to Julie to cherry pick something weird about it.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:23:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is, imo.
> >
> > I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
> > years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
> > absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
> > can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
> > and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
> > split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
> > like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
> > weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
> > tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
> > in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.
>
> The last one we ate at was in Alameda. Husband loved it but finally gave up
> on going there because Angela and I would not eat the food there. We found
> it all to be horrible tasting.
>

Considering it's only your opinion, I don't value it - because you
don't like anything more than a very limited number of items.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:25:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I just can't see any reason for me to go in there at all.
> >
> > I don't either, so exactly why are you participating in this thread?
>
> I can participate wherever I want!
>

The question was "why", it did not ask if you had the ability.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:19:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:10:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:43:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Would not try Chipotle
>> >> >
>> >> > Again, that's not the point of the OP. It's your choice not to eat
>> >> > there and it's not based on the presence or not of GMOs. The rest
>> >> > of
>> >> > us, some of whom might even LIKE Chipotle, now have more information
>> >> > to base our choices on.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure *you* might like them because you like to eat burrtios out of
>> >> hand.
>> >
>> > I don't recall saying *I* liked Chipotle. Unlike you, I'm perfectly
>> > capable of not making a thread all about me.
>> >
>> >> I don't.
>> >>
>> > You are free to use a knife and fork - they are provided by the
>> > establishment. They even have a table & chair option.
>>
>> But I do not *like* that kind of burrito! I prefer a small, wet one. A
>> big
>> bloated rice filled burrito is not tasty to me. And it's waaay too many
>> carbs.
>
> WTF are you talking about? I think you're delusional.
>
> I don't want rice in my burrito and IMO - if you want your burrito
> wet, you are better off ordering an enchilada.
>> >
>> > Everyone else, now has more information to base their choice on and it
>> > has absolutely NOTHING to do with your problem.
>>
>> My problem? What problem is that?
>>
> You're incapable of picking up and eating a burrito with your hands
> even if it's wrapped in foil and contains no rice.

What? No. I'm not incapable. As I said in another post, I ate one
earlier. From Taco Bell. I just happen to prefer wet burritos. And there
is a big difference between an enchilada and a burrito. The tortilla for
one thing. Enchiladas use corn tortillas. Plus they are baked in the oven
or at least nuked. Burritos are not. Burritos can also include things that
enchiladas don't. Like lettuce.

Let's see... I like something that you don't! And that makes it a problem?
For whom?

Oh wait! You don't even know what a golliwog is!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:00:48 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2013 5:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > "casa bona" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Ia haven't traveled with canned food since I used to go camping, I'm
>> >> glad
>> >> it works for you, but a nice fresh sub or burrito of my own design is
>> >> perfect, and cutting down on superfluous sat. fats like cheese and
>> >> sour
>> >> cream is a very sensible regimen according to most physicians.
>> >
>> > Physicians do not normally give out dietary advice and if they are
>> > giving it
>> > to you, you might want to ask about their credentials for doing so.
>> > I've
>> > been told that there is no requirement for them to study nutrition. I
>> > can
>> > not eat any dairy at all. Makes me quite sick. So I never eat it.
>>
>> There are nutritional physicians of course, and they publish.
>>
>> > As for the fresh, I guess that's a matter of opinion. I got a salad at
>> > Subway once and it was so "not" fresh that threw it away.
>>
>> I didn't know Subway did salads.
>
> They probably do it in deference to big eaters (or their not so big
> eating friends) in their lives that also want healthier choices.
> Leave it to Julie to cherry pick something weird about it.

I didn't cherry pick anything. They have offered salads for a VERY long
time! I can't help it if people here don't know this!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:23:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:39 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Agreeing with you on Chevy's - a bit of a glop house that place is,
>> >> imo.
>> >
>> > I've only eaten at a Chevy's outside of San Francisco once, which was
>> > years ago in the Georgetown area of Washington DC. That one was
>> > absolutely horrible; they couldn't even make decent guacamole. How
>> > can you mess that up? The San Francisco outlets are fine. Every now
>> > and then they have a miss, but we usually order their mixed fajita and
>> > split it... so if the cooks know how long to grill each component, I
>> > like it. I just ate in the one by the Moscone Center a couple of
>> > weeks ago, so my information is current. We even like their appetizer
>> > tamales, which isn't usual for us. Most places (which includes hole
>> > in the wall places that I think should) don't make tamales we like.
>>
>> The last one we ate at was in Alameda. Husband loved it but finally gave
>> up
>> on going there because Angela and I would not eat the food there. We
>> found
>> it all to be horrible tasting.
>>
>
> Considering it's only your opinion, I don't value it - because you
> don't like anything more than a very limited number of items.

It's not just *my* opinion. None of my family liked it and that includes my
parents, bro and SIL and their son. We did have one here in Lynnwood. It
was never very busy and couldn't stay in business. We just have too many
other good Mexican places around.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:25:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just can't see any reason for me to go in there at all.
>> >
>> > I don't either, so exactly why are you participating in this thread?
>>
>> I can participate wherever I want!
>>
>
> The question was "why", it did not ask if you had the ability.

The "why" was because as you can see in the subject, was GMO. And then it
veered. And I replied.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Oh wait! You don't even know what a golliwog is!

huh. I was born in 1953 and I've never ever heard of a golliwog. I had to
google it today. I must have read the wrong childrens tales or whatever,.
Never heard of it until this morning.

G/

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Oh wait! You don't even know what a golliwog is!
>
That's right. I never saw one until I looked it up. Maybe I wasn't
brought up in a racist part of the country.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 09:48:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Oh wait! You don't even know what a golliwog is!
>
> huh. I was born in 1953 and I've never ever heard of a golliwog. I had to
> google it today. I must have read the wrong childrens tales or whatever,.
> Never heard of it until this morning.
>
Thanks.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:03:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I didn't cherry pick anything. They have offered salads for a VERY long
> time! I can't help it if people here don't know this!
>

You have a lot of experience with it for someone who claims not to
like so much about it.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:03:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I didn't cherry pick anything. They have offered salads for a VERY long
>> time! I can't help it if people here don't know this!
>>
>
> You have a lot of experience with it for someone who claims not to
> like so much about it.

No. I'm just not unobservant. Plus I used to know someone who worked
there!