Here's some interesting information I read in the May 2013 Good
Housekeeping magazine about eating - or rather best not to eat!! -
grapefruit with more than 80+ prescription (Rx) medications that some
folks here in RFC might find interesting and useful.

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...g-combinations

or

http://tinyurl.com/curut4b

------
"Talk about a sour mix: One report lists more than 85 drugs that
interact badly with the breakfast favorite, 43 of them dangerously so.
(The same problem can arise with limes, Seville oranges, and pomelos.)
And it’s a myth that you’ll be OK if you eat only a small amount or wait
to take your pills. The list includes cholesterol drugs, sedatives,
antibiotics, and more, as well as safe alternatives. It’s quite
technical, so you may want to show it to your M.D."
------

AND, for the list of the many specific Rx medications:

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/suppl/201...ailey-1-at.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/cu9yk3z

Folks might want to learn and share this information with their loved
ones and friends. HTH.

Sky

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

True but it's very old information.
"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> Here's some interesting information I read in the May 2013 Good
> Housekeeping magazine about eating - or rather best not to eat!! -
> grapefruit with more than 80+ prescription (Rx) medications that some
> folks here in RFC might find interesting and useful.
>
> http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...g-combinations
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/curut4b
>
> ------
> "Talk about a sour mix: One report lists more than 85 drugs that interact
> badly with the breakfast favorite, 43 of them dangerously so. (The same
> problem can arise with limes, Seville oranges, and pomelos.) And it’s a
> myth that you’ll be OK if you eat only a small amount or wait to take your
> pills. The list includes cholesterol drugs, sedatives, antibiotics, and
> more, as well as safe alternatives. It’s quite technical, so you may want
> to show it to your M.D."
> ------
>
> AND, for the list of the many specific Rx medications:
>
> http://www.cmaj.ca/content/suppl/201...ailey-1-at.pdf
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cu9yk3z
>
> Folks might want to learn and share this information with their loved ones
> and friends. HTH.
>
> Sky
>
> --
>
> Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
> Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do, though.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
>This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do, though.

My pharmacist explained to me that the offending part of the
grapefruit is in the rind. Grapefruit juice is made by squeezing the
rind so the juice is problematic but it's perfectly fine to eat fresh
grapefruit pulp, just don't eat the rind.

Nancy2 > wrote:
> This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like
> this years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who
> prescribe any drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many
> pharmacists do, though.
>
> N.

My prescriptions come with detailed information, which I usually toss.

Greg

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this
>>years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any
>>drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do,
>>though.
>
> My pharmacist explained to me that the offending part of the
> grapefruit is in the rind. Grapefruit juice is made by squeezing the
> rind so the juice is problematic but it's perfectly fine to eat fresh
> grapefruit pulp, just don't eat the rind.

Shelly, I would drop your pharmacist and consult some reputable
medical people. Your pharmacist is dead wrong. DEAD wrong.

http://www.drugs.com/slideshow/grape...s-1028#slide-1

Love Grapefruit Juice? Drug Interactions Are Numerous.

Grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) is nutritious fruit full of vitamin C,
antioxidants, and a tangy-sweet flavor. However, research points
to over 85 drug interactions - 43 of which may be serious -
with grapefruit.

Medications can interact with all forms of grapefruit -
the fresh fruit, juice or even the frozen concentrate can result
in problems. Interactions may occur with commonly used drugs -
such as those that lower cholesterol, treat high blood
pressure, or fight cancer.

pavane

"gregz" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy2 > wrote:
>> This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like
>> this years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who
>> prescribe any drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many
>> pharmacists do, though.
>>
>> N.
>
> My prescriptions come with detailed information, which I usually toss.

So, whoopee?

pavane

"pavane" <> Shelly, I would drop your pharmacist and consult some reputable
> medical people. Your pharmacist is dead wrong. DEAD wrong.
>
> http://www.drugs.com/slideshow/grape...s-1028#slide-1
>
> Love Grapefruit Juice? Drug Interactions Are Numerous.
>
> Grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) is nutritious fruit full of vitamin C,
> antioxidants, and a tangy-sweet flavor. However, research points
> to over 85 drug interactions - 43 of which may be serious -
> with grapefruit.
>
> Medications can interact with all forms of grapefruit -
> the fresh fruit, juice or even the frozen concentrate can result
> in problems. Interactions may occur with commonly used drugs -
> such as those that lower cholesterol, treat high blood
> pressure, or fight cancer.
>
> pavane
You bet your boots. We had some terrible reactions from DH's love of
grapefruit juice after his by-pass and subsequent prescriptions. Our
pharmacist (who is precious and appears to be about 15 years old) explained
the grapefruit juice deal. Might as well have tossed the pills and taken a
dose of napalm. Wondering why the dr hadn't mentioned the problem, the young
fellow said, "Well, some doctors don't study this much." Great.

Susan wrote:
>
> It's not just grapefruit juice; many OTC and rx drugs, including NSAIDs,
> aspirin, Tylenol, antibiotics and other foods are either inducers or
> inhibitors of the CYP450 enzyme pathway. About 50% of all drugs do.

St. John's Wort is particularly powerful.
It's caused failure of the anti-rejection
drug cyclosporine and failure of birth
control medication. If you are taking
a prescription drug, do not take SJW.

Don't assume herbal supplements are safe!
Many have life-threatening side effects.
Licorice root causes high blood pressure,
ginkgo biloba causes hemorrhage, etc.
You can't trust the guy at the health food
store or paperback books written by quacks
to warn you about the hazards.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this
> years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any
> drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do,
> though.

I can't remember when I heard of the grapefruit thing but I think I might
have been in high school and I'll be 54 is less than 3 hours so very old
news. And you are right. Most Drs. are clueless when it comes to meds.
Can't tell you how many times I have been prescribed meds that were
contraindicated for one of my medical conditions. The Dr. didn't know, I
would look it up and ask the pharmacist, they would tell me that it might be
okay for me and then I got very sick because of it. I did ask about the
grapefruit when I was put on a statin which thankfully I no longer take.
Dr. said it would be fine because I was on such a low dose. No matter the
dose, that stuff really did a number on me! In some cases, grapefruit makes
the med less effective so... Not dangerous but could be that it won't help
you. But... In other cases, it makes the med too effective and that's when
it can be dangerous!

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this
>>years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any
>>drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do,
>>though.
>
> My pharmacist explained to me that the offending part of the
> grapefruit is in the rind. Grapefruit juice is made by squeezing the
> rind so the juice is problematic but it's perfectly fine to eat fresh
> grapefruit pulp, just don't eat the rind.

My all time favorite candy is candied grapefruit rinds! Even better when
covered in chocolate but those things are super hard to find. I did try to
make them myself but epic fail.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Susan wrote:
>>
>> It's not just grapefruit juice; many OTC and rx drugs, including NSAIDs,
>> aspirin, Tylenol, antibiotics and other foods are either inducers or
>> inhibitors of the CYP450 enzyme pathway. About 50% of all drugs do.
>
> St. John's Wort is particularly powerful.
> It's caused failure of the anti-rejection
> drug cyclosporine and failure of birth
> control medication. If you are taking
> a prescription drug, do not take SJW.
>
> Don't assume herbal supplements are safe!
> Many have life-threatening side effects.
> Licorice root causes high blood pressure,
> ginkgo biloba causes hemorrhage, etc.
> You can't trust the guy at the health food
> store or paperback books written by quacks
> to warn you about the hazards.

I do take a lot of herbs but have read many books on them over the years and
now you can find all of that stuff on the Internet. I did buy Butterbur for
allergies but then was frightened to take it. Can't remember what I read
about it now though and don't want to be bothered to look it up.

On 26/06/2013 05:09, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>> This certainly isn't new news....I read articles on interactions like this
>> years ago. I guess people need to be reminded. Doctors who prescribe any
>> drugs should talk about interactions...many don't. Many pharmacists do,
>> though.
>
> I can't remember when I heard of the grapefruit thing but I think I might
> have been in high school and I'll be 54 is less than 3 hours so very old
> news. And you are right. Most Drs. are clueless when it comes to meds.
> Can't tell you how many times I have been prescribed meds that were
> contraindicated for one of my medical conditions. The Dr. didn't know, I
> would look it up and ask the pharmacist, they would tell me that it might be
> okay for me and then I got very sick because of it. I did ask about the
> grapefruit when I was put on a statin which thankfully I no longer take.
> Dr. said it would be fine because I was on such a low dose. No matter the
> dose, that stuff really did a number on me! In some cases, grapefruit makes
> the med less effective so... Not dangerous but could be that it won't help
> you. But... In other cases, it makes the med too effective and that's when
> it can be dangerous!
>
>
Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As
I am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA.
Though I understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:34:59 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:



>>
>Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
>given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As
>I am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA.
>Though I understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.

I bet the folks at my wife's Coumadin Clinic would be surprised to
hear that. It is still a very common drug here.

There are some new drugs on the market that are better to control the
blood, but they are not applicable in every case. With Lupus
Anticoagulant Anti Cardiolipin Antibodies they still prescribe
warfarin.

"Broadback" > wrote in message
...
> Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
> given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As I
> am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA. Though I
> understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.

I not only read them but I go to this website to see what reactions others
have had to the meds. I often have problems that are not listed in the
prescribing information. But this website has let me know that I am not
alone. I had problems with the statin that my Dr. hadn't heard of and he
reported them to the rep.

http://www.askapatient.com/rateyourmedicine.asp

On 6/26/2013 4:34 AM, Broadback wrote:

> Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
> given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As
> I am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA.
> Though I understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.
>
Where did you get the idea that warfarin isn't used in the US?

On 26/06/2013 11:43, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 6/26/2013 4:34 AM, Broadback wrote:
>
>> Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
>> given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As
>> I am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA.
>> Though I understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.
>>
> Where did you get the idea that warfarin isn't used in the US?
OK, hands up, I read it on the net and believed it!

On 6/26/2013 9:48 AM, Broadback wrote:
> On 26/06/2013 11:43, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 6/26/2013 4:34 AM, Broadback wrote:
>>
>>> Judging from these posts it seems lots of you do not read the leaflet
>>> given with all medicines. At least in the UK, and I assume elsewhere. As
>>> I am on warfarin I am precluded most medications, which is a PITA.
>>> Though I understand that warfarin is no longer used in the USA.
>>>
>> Where did you get the idea that warfarin isn't used in the US?
> OK, hands up, I read it on the net and believed it!

There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
extensively prescribed.

On 6/25/2013 11:59 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> Don't assume herbal supplements are safe!
> Many have life-threatening side effects.
> Licorice root causes high blood pressure,
> ginkgo biloba causes hemorrhage, etc.
> You can't trust the guy at the health food
> store or paperback books written by quacks
> to warn you about the hazards.
>
I agree with you, Mark. Ginkgo biloba, in particular, is a blood
thinner. Many people take it for alleged properties for improved memory
and brain function. But if you're already on prescription blood
thinners (or a prescribed aspirin regimen) beware!

My SO, John, knows a lot of people I call "helpful hippies". If, for
example, he casually mentions he has a sore back, someone will recommend
blah blah berbal whatever. This is a man who takes multiple Rx
medications daily. If he listened to them, the "helpful hippies" could
very well kill him. They don't have a clue about how these things might
interact with his prescriptions. Every time he tells me so-and-so
recommended he try [herbal supplement] I say, "Ask your doctor!"

Jill

On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
> extensively prescribed.


And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.

On 26/06/2013 15:38, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>> extensively prescribed.
>
>
> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.
I must say that in the UK, at least here, they have the checking down to
a fine art. I go to a clinic periodically, the (nurse) pricks my thumb,
take as little blood puts it into a machine which does a count down. The
associated computer prints out the new dosage and next appointment, that
is then stuck in my little book. Job done 4 minutes.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:38:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>> extensively prescribed.
>
>
>And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
>surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
>prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
>times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
>a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
>me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
>and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.

That's SOP for anyone with any history of heart problems. Every time
you have a surgery, you will be required to take the shots to limit
the possibility of clot formation and migration. The warfarin does
approximately the same for longer term during observation.
Janet US

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:31:16 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:

>On 26/06/2013 15:38, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>>> extensively prescribed.
>>
>>
>> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
>> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
>> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
>> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
>> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
>> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
>> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.
>I must say that in the UK, at least here, they have the checking down to
>a fine art. I go to a clinic periodically, the (nurse) pricks my thumb,
>take as little blood puts it into a machine which does a count down. The
>associated computer prints out the new dosage and next appointment, that
>is then stuck in my little book. Job done 4 minutes.

Same here. Perhaps not all facilities in the US have that handy
machine.
Janet US

On 6/26/2013 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>> extensively prescribed.
>
>
> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.

Injectable heparin, until the warfarin took effect?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:51:17 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 6/26/2013 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>>> extensively prescribed.
>>
>>
>> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
>> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
>> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
>> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
>> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
>> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
>> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.
>
>Injectable heparin, until the warfarin took effect?
Yes, probably Lovenox.
Janet US

I took Coumadin for a month after hip replacement surgery, but there weren't any needles! Just pills. Blood was checked and postage adjusted twice a week for four weeks. Like someone said, a four-minute deal with a little machine and a laptop.

N.

The grapefruit and drug interaction is well known as many have pointed
out.

However I got caught out with Tangelos, those delicious hybrids from
Minneola Fla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangelo

When they were in season and plentiful a few years back I started on
them with a flourish only to find they enhanced my blood pressure
medication (by interfering with the metabolism of its removal my
pharmacist informs me) effectively increasing the dose and sending my
BP plummeting.

So watch out for them too if you are effected by grapefruit.

Cheerz Mark.





On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:55:03 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

>Here's some interesting information I read in the May 2013 Good
>Housekeeping magazine about eating - or rather best not to eat!! -
>grapefruit with more than 80+ prescription (Rx) medications that some
>folks here in RFC might find interesting and useful.
>
>http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...g-combinations
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/curut4b
>
>------
>"Talk about a sour mix: One report lists more than 85 drugs that
>interact badly with the breakfast favorite, 43 of them dangerously so.
>(The same problem can arise with limes, Seville oranges, and pomelos.)
>And it’s a myth that you’ll be OK if you eat only a small amount or wait
>to take your pills. The list includes cholesterol drugs, sedatives,
>antibiotics, and more, as well as safe alternatives. It’s quite
>technical, so you may want to show it to your M.D."
>------
>
>AND, for the list of the many specific Rx medications:
>
>http://www.cmaj.ca/content/suppl/201...ailey-1-at.pdf
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/cu9yk3z
>
>Folks might want to learn and share this information with their loved
>ones and friends. HTH.
>
>Sky
Remove the remove to email me.

On 26/06/2013 5:07 PM, Mark Herron wrote:
> The grapefruit and drug interaction is well known as many have pointed
> out.
>
> However I got caught out with Tangelos, those delicious hybrids from
> Minneola Fla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangelo
>
> When they were in season and plentiful a few years back I started on
> them with a flourish only to find they enhanced my blood pressure
> medication (by interfering with the metabolism of its removal my
> pharmacist informs me) effectively increasing the dose and sending my
> BP plummeting.
>
> So watch out for them too if you are effected by grapefruit.
>

I was aware of a problem with grapefruit and some heart medications. In
fact, one of the medications I was taking after heart surgery had a
warning about grapefruit. I have to confess I don't remember now which
it was. What I do know is that between that horrible experience and a
lot of pain medication, I was pretty much in a fog. My wife picked up
all my prescriptions at the drug store and then we sat down and tried to
figure out which was which to take when. The generic names were all
different and... I was confused.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:31:16 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:



>I must say that in the UK, at least here, they have the checking down to
>a fine art. I go to a clinic periodically, the (nurse) pricks my thumb,
>take as little blood puts it into a machine which does a count down. The
>associated computer prints out the new dosage and next appointment, that
>is then stuck in my little book. Job done 4 minutes.

Some people even have the meter at home and call in the result. They
are good for most patients, but not everyone. They will not give a
reading for my wife, for instance, because of her particular
condition. .

On 6/25/2013 4:55 PM, Sky wrote:

> Here's some interesting information I read in the May 2013 Good
> Housekeeping magazine about eating - or rather best not to eat!! -
> grapefruit with more than 80+ prescription (Rx) medications that some
> folks here in RFC might find interesting and useful.
>
> http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...g-combinations

>
Thanks for the info. One of the meds I'm on is on the list. Good to know.


--
CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980.

On 26/06/2013 11:51 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 6/26/2013 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>>> extensively prescribed.
>>
>>
>> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
>> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
>> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
>> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
>> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
>> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
>> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.
>
> Injectable heparin, until the warfarin took effect?


Yes. They were giving it to me in the hospital in addition to pills.
There us supposed to be a certain level and the injections helped to
reach it ???? It was a PITA.

Mine? It turned out fine...but it was the least of my orthopedic problems. The others I am just ignoring for now. ;-)

N.

On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:55:03 PM UTC-5, Sky wrote:
> Here's some interesting information I read in the May 2013 Good
>
> Housekeeping magazine about eating - or rather best not to eat!! -
>
> grapefruit with more than 80+ prescription (Rx) medications that some
>
> folks here in RFC might find interesting and useful.
>
>
>
> http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...g-combinations
>
>
Here's a link to an article.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/589497

Interestingly, the "42-year-old female" happens to be my wife.

There is one thing about the article that is incorrect. The actual
reason she'd been drinking so much grapefruit juice was because we were
on vacation, and we were staying at a Best Western that that a free
breakfast buffet that had grapefruit juice.
>
> Sky
>
--Bryan

> wrote:
>
>I must say that in the UK, at least here, they have the checking down to
>a fine art, the nurse pricks my thumb.

If you weren't a UK faggot you'd prick the nurse's bum.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >I must say that in the UK, at least here, they have the checking down to
> >a fine art, the nurse pricks my thumb.
>
> If you weren't a UK faggot you'd prick the nurse's bum.

Here's a website made just for Sheldon. heheheh
http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Main_Page

On 6/25/2013 11:46 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
>
> "pavane" <> Shelly, I would drop your pharmacist and consult some reputable
>> medical people. Your pharmacist is dead wrong. DEAD wrong.
>>
>> http://www.drugs.com/slideshow/grape...s-1028#slide-1
>>
>> Love Grapefruit Juice? Drug Interactions Are Numerous.
>>
>> Grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) is nutritious fruit full of vitamin C,
>> antioxidants, and a tangy-sweet flavor. However, research points
>> to over 85 drug interactions - 43 of which may be serious -
>> with grapefruit.
>>
>> Medications can interact with all forms of grapefruit -
>> the fresh fruit, juice or even the frozen concentrate can result
>> in problems. Interactions may occur with commonly used drugs -
>> such as those that lower cholesterol, treat high blood
>> pressure, or fight cancer.
>>
>> pavane
> You bet your boots. We had some terrible reactions from DH's love of
> grapefruit juice after his by-pass and subsequent prescriptions. Our
> pharmacist (who is precious and appears to be about 15 years old)
> explained the grapefruit juice deal. Might as well have tossed the
> pills and taken a dose of napalm. Wondering why the dr hadn't mentioned
> the problem, the young fellow said, "Well, some doctors don't study this
> much." Great.

Neither my doctor nor the pharmacist mentioned that interaction with the
blood pressure med I just started taking. The pharmacy inserts a drug
interaction pamphlet I guess assuming we read it all. So I'm especially
glad to have read this. I don't eat much grapefruit but if I do, it's
good to know.

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:37:58 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/25/2013 11:46 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
>>
>> "pavane" <> Shelly, I would drop your pharmacist and consult some reputable
>>> medical people. Your pharmacist is dead wrong. DEAD wrong.
>>>
>>> http://www.drugs.com/slideshow/grape...s-1028#slide-1
>>>
>>> Love Grapefruit Juice? Drug Interactions Are Numerous.
>>>
>>> Grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) is nutritious fruit full of vitamin C,
>>> antioxidants, and a tangy-sweet flavor. However, research points
>>> to over 85 drug interactions - 43 of which may be serious -
>>> with grapefruit.
>>>
>>> Medications can interact with all forms of grapefruit -
>>> the fresh fruit, juice or even the frozen concentrate can result
>>> in problems. Interactions may occur with commonly used drugs -
>>> such as those that lower cholesterol, treat high blood
>>> pressure, or fight cancer.
>>>
>>> pavane
>> You bet your boots. We had some terrible reactions from DH's love of
>> grapefruit juice after his by-pass and subsequent prescriptions. Our
>> pharmacist (who is precious and appears to be about 15 years old)
>> explained the grapefruit juice deal. Might as well have tossed the
>> pills and taken a dose of napalm. Wondering why the dr hadn't mentioned
>> the problem, the young fellow said, "Well, some doctors don't study this
>> much." Great.
>
>Neither my doctor nor the pharmacist mentioned that interaction with the
>blood pressure med I just started taking. The pharmacy inserts a drug
>interaction pamphlet I guess assuming we read it all. So I'm especially
>glad to have read this. I don't eat much grapefruit but if I do, it's
>good to know.

You don't read it? Shame. Take responsibility for yourself.
There's lots of good info in those pamphlets. Like don't take within
6 hours of taking calcium, or take at night etc. You're paying for
the med, get the best of it. (end of scold) ;o)
Janet US

On 6/26/2013 10:38 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/06/2013 9:54 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> There are some interesting new anti-coagulants now, but they're very
>> expensive, and not recommended for older patients - so warfarin is still
>> extensively prescribed.
>
>
> And it can be a PITA. I was taking it for a while after my heart
> surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital I was given a
> prescription for the pills and needles. I had to inject myself a couple
> times a day. I had to go to a lab every Monday morning before 9 am for
> a blood test. The results were forwarded to the hospital who got back to
> me about changing my dosage. I had to do the needles for a bout a week
> and was able to stop the Warfarin after a month.

Those tests are extremely important. The wife of a co-worker had
complications from a surgery and developed blood clots and was put on
warfarin. The follow ups weren't frequent enough and she went from
bloodclots to blood so thin she could have died from internal bleeding.

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On 6/28/2013 9:22 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> You don't read it? Shame. Take responsibility for yourself.
> There's lots of good info in those pamphlets. Like don't take within
> 6 hours of taking calcium, or take at night etc. You're paying for
> the med, get the best of it. (end of scold) ;o)
> Janet US

Color me shamed and I'll read them. i save them all to scan into my
paper-reduction share.

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On 6/28/2013 9:53 AM, Susan wrote:
>
> Foods that affect drug metabolism: >
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15663291
>
> A wise person could google up drug interaction with CYP450 before taking
> anything new, and also note that any such interaction also lowers the
> steroids (stress hormone, sex hormones, electrolyte balance hormones,
> etc.) your body makes, too.
>
> Another very useful tool for stuff most doctors fail to note:
>
>> http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html
>
> Also, askapatient.com is a very valuable source of info that drug trials
> often don't report, but patients experince.
>
> Most docs believe that Singulair, for instance, is completely safe and
> inoccuous, but it raised my bp severely and made me feel irritable and
> agitated. Turns out that was common in patient reports, but none of my
> doctors would believe it was the drug when I reported it.
>
> My mother died of similar skepticism about the effects of the statin
> drugs she took (despite her endocrine doc and I both telling her she
> didnt' need them and they were inappropriatly rx'ed). She liked to be a
> good patient.


Thanks for the links, Susan. I'll check them. It must hurt to know
about why your mom died. I'm on a statin, too. I guess I need to
take these drugs I'm on now more seriously.

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