I had to hear about this from a real live person!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html

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On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>
> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>

Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in? Like the
saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I can't
imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.

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In article >,
says...
>
> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html

What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
claim thrown out of court in 2007?

Janet

" Plaintiff: Martin R. Hyde
Defendant: Gordon Ramsay, Upper Ground Enterprises, Inc., Granada
American, Granada Entertainment, A. Smith & Co. and Seven Network
Limited

Case Number: 1:2007cv05796
Filed: June 19, 2007

Court: New York Southern District Court
Office: Foley Square Office [ Court Info ]
County: NewYork
Presiding Judge: Judge Shira A. Scheindlin

Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00

STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
(Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
8, 2007) "

On 7/1/2013 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
> What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
> claim thrown out of court in 2007?
>
> Janet
>
> " Plaintiff: Martin R. Hyde
> Defendant: Gordon Ramsay, Upper Ground Enterprises, Inc., Granada
> American, Granada Entertainment, A. Smith & Co. and Seven Network
> Limited
>
> Case Number: 1:2007cv05796
> Filed: June 19, 2007
>
> Court: New York Southern District Court
> Office: Foley Square Office [ Court Info ]
> County: NewYork
> Presiding Judge: Judge Shira A. Scheindlin
>
> Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
> Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
> Jurisdiction: Diversity
> Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
> Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00
>
> STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
> action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
> (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
> 8, 2007) "
>
>
>
LOL! You can tell I didn't read it.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.


Or Alec Baldwin. Is anyone pulling his endorsements? I doubt it.

Cheri

On 7/1/2013 10:51 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>
>>
>
> Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in?

Yep. It's not like Gordon Ramsay just shows up in restaurants with a
film crew. He's been invited.

> Like the saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I can't
> imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.
>
I doubt Gordon Ramsay is sweating it.

Jill

On 7/1/2013 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
> Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
> Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
> Jurisdiction: Diversity
> Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
> Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00
>
> STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
> action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
> (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
> 8, 2007) "

I didn't notice the date on the lawsuit, sorry. Hmmmm, is Judge Shira
A. Scheindlin related to Judge Judith A. Scheindlin? aka Judge Judy?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2013 10:51 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in?
>
> Yep. It's not like Gordon Ramsay just shows up in restaurants with a film
> crew. He's been invited.
>
>> Like the saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I
>> can't
>> imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.
>>
> I doubt Gordon Ramsay is sweating it.

lol true. He was spectacularly taken aback though when fronted with Amy <g>
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/1/2013 10:51 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in?
>>
>> Yep. It's not like Gordon Ramsay just shows up in restaurants with a
>> film crew. He's been invited.
>>
>>> Like the saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I
>>> can't
>>> imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.
>>>
>> I doubt Gordon Ramsay is sweating it.
>
> lol true. He was spectacularly taken aback though when fronted with Amy
> <g>

Sorry I meant to add, has anyone heard any updates on that front?
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On 01/07/2013 10:51 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>
>>
>
> Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in? Like the
> saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I can't
> imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.
>


Hopefully the judge and/or jury will pay more attention to the case than
you did to the article. It wasn't that long. He was not responsible for
the kitchen. He was told to lie down and rest for a while and then
filmed like that and describes as lazy. The crowd of happy customers at
the re-opening were paid extras.

On 01/07/2013 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
> What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
> claim thrown out of court in 2007?
>
> Janet
>
> " Plaintiff: Martin R. Hyde
> Defendant: Gordon Ramsay, Upper Ground Enterprises, Inc., Granada
> American, Granada Entertainment, A. Smith & Co. and Seven Network
> Limited
>
> Case Number: 1:2007cv05796
> Filed: June 19, 2007
>
> Court: New York Southern District Court
> Office: Foley Square Office [ Court Info ]
> County: NewYork
> Presiding Judge: Judge Shira A. Scheindlin
>
> Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
> Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
> Jurisdiction: Diversity
> Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
> Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00
>
> STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
> action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
> (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
> 8, 2007) "
>
>
>

The suit was dismissed because the parties agreed to have the case go to
arbitration.

It sounds a little ironic to me to hear insinuations about the
credibility of a tabloid.

On 7/1/2013 12:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 01/07/2013 10:51 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 7/1/2013 10:35 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ridiculous! Isn't it the restaurant owners who call him in? Like the
>> saying, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I can't
>> imagine that lawsuit going very far, but I've been surprised before.
>>
>
>
> Hopefully the judge and/or jury will pay more attention to the case than
> you did to the article. It wasn't that long. He was not responsible for
> the kitchen. He was told to lie down and rest for a while and then
> filmed like that and describes as lazy. The crowd of happy customers at
> the re-opening were paid extras.

I guess you missed the date of it, too. Actually I skimmed it and
knowing the show and how some of the restaurant owners seem to feel
insulted by him, I surmised the rest.

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In article >, ost
says...
>
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>
> -sw

tosser.

Janet UK

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:10:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
> What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
> claim thrown out of court in 2007?
>
The article I posted was dated July of '13 and I saw the show in
question just in the past year.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >, ost
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>
>>> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>>
>> tosser.
>
> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
> place the word. Thanks :-)
>
> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?

Not to me!
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On 7/1/2013 11:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, ost
> says...
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>
>> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>>
>> -sw
>
> tosser.
>
> Janet UK
>
Seasonally exhibited in the winter vomiting disease in the UK.

On 01/07/2013 1:44 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:10:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>
>> What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
>> claim thrown out of court in 2007?
>>
> The article I posted was dated July of '13 and I saw the show in
> question just in the past year.
>


It's curious. The date in the upper right corner is July 2013, but the
date under the byline is April 2008. I didn't have much luck finding
out what happened. The case was dismissed. It was dropped when the
parties agreed to go to arbitration.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:10:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
> >
> > What did you want to talk about; a tabloid report dated 2008, about a
> > claim thrown out of court in 2007?
> >
> The article I posted was dated July of '13 and I saw the show in
> question just in the past year.

Read the byline of the reporter, it says

By BETH HALE

Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008

Then read the article, which says, quote

"Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn.".

Date confirmed at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_...al_proceedings

"In June 2007, Ramsay's show was sued by the terminated general
manager (Martin Hyde) of the New York restaurant Purnima (Dillon's), who
also alleged fakery. Hyde had quit his position at the restaurant during
the show, when Ramsay suggested that the owner hire top Indian Chef
Vikas Khanna as the Consultant Chef for Purnima. The lawsuit alleged
that "unknown to the viewing audience, some or all of Kitchen Nightmares
are fake and the so-called 'problems uncovered and solved' by Ramsay
are, for the most part, created by Ramsay and his staff for the purpose
of making it appear that Ramsay is improving the restaurant".[59]
However, in August 2007, the case was dismissed voluntarily and ordered
into arbitration as stipulated in their contract.".

IOW the "viewing audience" had seen the show in question broadcast
before the court case date, June 2007.

Janet




Janet UK

In article >, ost
says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>
> > In article >, ost
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
> >>
> >>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
> >>
> >> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
> >
> > tosser.
>
> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
> place the word. Thanks :-)
>
> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?

I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
either.

Janet UK

"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html

Hmmm... This is the first I'd heard of it!

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:17:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, ost
>says...
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > In article >, ost
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>> >>
>> >> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>> >
>> > tosser.
>>
>> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
>> place the word. Thanks :-)
>>
>> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?
>
> I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
>American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
>either.
>
> Janet UK

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:17:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, ost
>says...
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > In article >, ost
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>> >>
>> >> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>> >
>> > tosser.
>>
>> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
>> place the word. Thanks :-)
>>
>> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?
>
> I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
>American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
>either.

Tosser actually means ******, whether that needs censoring with
asterisks I'm not so sure.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:17:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, ost
> >says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article >, ost
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
> >> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
> >> >>
> >> >> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
> >> >
> >> > tosser.
> >>
> >> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
> >> place the word. Thanks :-)
> >>
> >> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?
> >
> > I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
> >American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
> >either.
>
> Tosser actually means ******, whether that needs censoring with
> asterisks I'm not so sure.

Although the definition of the two terms is the same the colloquial
impact isn't; in UK tosser is regarded as a milder slang than ******.
Jerk means the same, of course.

Janet UK

On 01/07/2013 5:54 PM, Janet wrote:

>> Tosser actually means ******, whether that needs censoring with
>> asterisks I'm not so sure.
>
> Although the definition of the two terms is the same the colloquial
> impact isn't; in UK tosser is regarded as a milder slang than ******.
> Jerk means the same, of course.
>

You gotta love the idiomatic expressions and euphamisms of the language.
I know a couple who both use the term "frig" instead of **** and I guess
they figure that since they say frig instead of **** they can through it
in everywhere and in any company. IMO, they are equal.

On 7/1/2013 5:41 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:17:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, ost
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >, ost
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>>>>
>>>> tosser.
>>>
>>> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
>>> place the word. Thanks :-)
>>>
>>> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?
>>
>> I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
>> American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
>> either.
>
> Tosser actually means ******, whether that needs censoring with
> asterisks I'm not so sure.
>
I was wondering about ******. Does that need asterisks?


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On 7/1/2013 4:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:17:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >, ost
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:23 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >, ost
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:35:03 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I give up. What is a lazy "t*****"?
>>>>
>>>> tosser.
>>>
>>> Ugh. I knew it had to be a UK'ism of some sort but I just couldn't
>>> place the word. Thanks :-)
>>>
>>> Is it that derogatory that it needs to be asterisked?
>>
>> I'm surprised it was. Calling someone a tosser is the equivalent of an
>> American calling someone a jerk and I've never seen jerk asterisked
>> either.
>
> I didn't think it was that derogatory the way I've heard it used
> casually in context, but just thought I'd confirm. Maybe it's a just
> a legal precaution that they chose to publish it that way.
>
> -sw


Looks like it's Brit slang for what you do in these groups, spin...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tosser
tosser [ˈtɒsə]
n
Brit slang a stupid or despicable person
[probably from toss off (to masturbate)]

Collins English Dictionary €“ Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins
Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/1/2013 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
>> Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
>> Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
>> Jurisdiction: Diversity
>> Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
>> Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00
>>
>> STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
>> action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
>> (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
>> 8, 2007) "
>
> I didn't notice the date on the lawsuit, sorry. Hmmmm, is Judge Shira A.
> Scheindlin related to Judge Judith A. Scheindlin? aka Judge Judy?
>
> Jill

Her husband is also a judge but I don't know his name.

On Monday, July 1, 2013 6:25:27 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 7/1/2013 11:10 AM, Janet wrote:
>
> >> Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Assault, Libel, and Slander
>
> >> Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
>
> >> Jurisdiction: Diversity
>
> >> Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
>
> >> Amount Demanded: $3,000,000.00
>
> >>
>
> >> STIPULATION OF DISMISSAL; pursuant to Rule 41 of the F.R.C.P., this
>
> >> action is dismissed without prejudice and without costs to any party.
>
> >> (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/7/07) (kco) (Entered: August
>
> >> 8, 2007) "
>
> >
>
> > I didn't notice the date on the lawsuit, sorry. Hmmmm, is Judge Shira A.
>
> > Scheindlin related to Judge Judith A. Scheindlin? aka Judge Judy?
>
> >
>
> > Jill
>
>
>
> Her husband is also a judge but I don't know his name.

Jerry Scheindlin- he was the judge on "The People's Court a number of years ago.

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:54:10 +0100, Janet > wrote:



>>
>> Tosser actually means ******, whether that needs censoring with
>> asterisks I'm not so sure.
>
> Although the definition of the two terms is the same the colloquial
>impact isn't; in UK tosser is regarded as a milder slang than ******.
> Jerk means the same, of course.
>
> Janet UK

Not quite, in the US. A jerk is a rude person. A jerk off is a
tosser.

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>
> Read the byline of the reporter, it says
>
> By BETH HALE
>
> Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
>
> Then read the article, which says, quote
>
> "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
> when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."

Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
recent one.

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On 7/1/2013 11:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:14:20 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Read the byline of the reporter, it says
>>>
>>> By BETH HALE
>>>
>>> Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
>>>
>>> Then read the article, which says, quote
>>>
>>> "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
>>> when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."
>>
>> Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
>> just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
>> recent one.
>
> Are you suggesting that they predicted the news 5 years early using a
> crystal ball or something?
>
> I think you're confused.
>
> -sw
>
I think you're a long time troll, and the google archive confirms it:


Steve Wertz
5/21/04

On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:05:00 -0400, Kathy >
wrote:

>I am sick and tired of being called a plagerist and spammer when I
>don't even own a website. The Restaurant Terms And Meanings I posted
>were received from a friend with no link so how the hell am I
>supposed to have "plagerized" them. I would like to block SW but
>don't know how to. All I can do is download Agent and the alt.cooking
>chat which I subscribe to and his crappy attacks are there, so how do
>I block him? I wish the hell I knew what flea he has up is ASS that
>makes him so argumentative and disgruntled and disruptive.

Right-click on the body of the message, select filters -> Add Kill
Filter. You can figure out the rest, You're not as stupid as you
portray yourself (otherwise you'd be using Outlook).

Unfortunately this won't stop you posting these god-awful recipes
of yours.

-sw

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:20 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/1/2013 11:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:14:20 -0700, sf wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Read the byline of the reporter, it says
> >>>
> >>> By BETH HALE
> >>>
> >>> Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
> >>>
> >>> Then read the article, which says, quote
> >>>
> >>> "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
> >>> when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."
> >>
> >> Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
> >> just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
> >> recent one.
> >
> > Are you suggesting that they predicted the news 5 years early using a
> > crystal ball or something?
> >
> > I think you're confused.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> I think you're a long time troll
>
>
That is not news here. Those who think he stinks worse than a fresh
turd in the noonday sun, killed him a long time ago and those who
giggle at his "antics" haven't - and he plays to that crowd.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 7/1/2013 11:50 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:20 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2013 11:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:14:20 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the byline of the reporter, it says
>>>>>
>>>>> By BETH HALE
>>>>>
>>>>> Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
>>>>>
>>>>> Then read the article, which says, quote
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
>>>>> when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
>>>> just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
>>>> recent one.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that they predicted the news 5 years early using a
>>> crystal ball or something?
>>>
>>> I think you're confused.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> I think you're a long time troll
>>
>>
> That is not news here. Those who think he stinks worse than a fresh
> turd in the noonday sun, killed him a long time ago and those who
> giggle at his "antics" haven't - and he plays to that crowd.


Thank you once more for your perspective.

Truly in this forum I am a classic "newbie".

I owe you one, of whatever you think that might be.

Spin and Marty are not good people, and I see now that evidencing that
publicly has largely doomed me here.

So be it.

Truth does matter, and so too does proof of those who dislike it.

Things and people are what they are.

It's what we choose to do with them that defines us.

And so it goes...

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:02:49 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/1/2013 11:50 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:20 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >> I think you're a long time troll
> >>
> >>
> > That is not news here. Those who think he stinks worse than a fresh
> > turd in the noonday sun, killed him a long time ago and those who
> > giggle at his "antics" haven't - he plays to that crowd.
>
>
> Thank you once more for your perspective.
>
> Truly in this forum I am a classic "newbie".
>
> I owe you one, of whatever you think that might be.
>
> Spin and Marty are not good people, and I see now that evidencing that
> publicly has largely doomed me here.
>
> So be it.

If you're interested in cooking, kill file them and any others of
their ilk as they pop up and stay. Spin will do whatever he can to
get your attention (nym shift, morph, frog) after you kill him, but it
only proves he's an attention whore.
>
> Truth does matter, and so too does proof of those who dislike it.
>
> Things and people are what they are.
>
> It's what we choose to do with them that defines us.
>
> And so it goes...

Correct.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >
> > Read the byline of the reporter, it says
> >
> > By BETH HALE
> >
> > Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
> >
> > Then read the article, which says, quote
> >
> > "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST YEAR
> > when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."
>
> Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
> just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
> recent one.

This story was reported in the UK, and the USA, in 2006 and 2007.
The TV program it refers to was broadcast in 2006.
The court dismissal referred to, was in 2007.

It's old news. Not recent.

Janet UK

On 02/07/2013 8:36 AM, Janet wrote:
wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was a
>> recent one.
>
> This story was reported in the UK, and the USA, in 2006 and 2007.
> The TV program it refers to was broadcast in 2006.
> The court dismissal referred to, was in 2007.
>
> It's old news. Not recent.
>
>



And that might go a long way in explaining the mystery about why no one
is talking about it. It happened 6 years ago.

On 7/2/2013 2:05 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:02:49 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2013 11:50 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:13:20 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I think you're a long time troll
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That is not news here. Those who think he stinks worse than a fresh
>>> turd in the noonday sun, killed him a long time ago and those who
>>> giggle at his "antics" haven't - he plays to that crowd.
>>
>>
>> Thank you once more for your perspective.
>>
>> Truly in this forum I am a classic "newbie".
>>
>> I owe you one, of whatever you think that might be.
>>
>> Spin and Marty are not good people, and I see now that evidencing that
>> publicly has largely doomed me here.
>>
>> So be it.
>
> If you're interested in cooking, kill file them and any others of
> their ilk as they pop up and stay. Spin will do whatever he can to
> get your attention (nym shift, morph, frog) after you kill him, but it
> only proves he's an attention whore.

You make a sound point, and the farther back through his archive I wade
the more I realize the man is damaged goods times ten.

>> Truth does matter, and so too does proof of those who dislike it.
>>
>> Things and people are what they are.
>>
>> It's what we choose to do with them that defines us.
>>
>> And so it goes...
>
> Correct.
>
And some here, including the erstwhile ViLco enable them.

How sad.

On 02/07/2013 1:29 PM, Cheri wrote:
equal.
>>
>> I used to work for a guy who liked to use the word "futz". "Let's quit
>> futzing around and make that deal." It was obvious what word was being
>> replaced but instead of taking people aback, they found it amusing,
>> while the emphasis he wanted remained. I'm somewhat partial to
>> futhermucker and fustercluck myself.
>>
>> MartyB
>
>
>
> In the old days, "futzing around" was equivalent to "farting around"
> with the wasting of time.
>

Close, but try it with the "fu..." theme.

On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:35:03 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> I had to hear about this from a real live person!
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-U-S-show.html
>
DAMN! I was hoping he was dead too. How disappointing.

--Bryan

Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:04:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Read the byline of the reporter, it says
>>>
>>> By BETH HALE
>>>
>>> Last updated at 22:03 21 April 2008
>>>
>>> Then read the article, which says, quote
>>>
>>> "Mr Hyde's lawyer Carl Person said a lawsuit was dismissed LAST
>>> YEAR when the claim was voluntarily withdrawn."
>>
>> Maybe it was another case of mainstream news reporting inaccurate or
>> just plain wrong old news because the (over the air) news report was
>> a recent one.
>
> This story was reported in the UK, and the USA, in 2006 and 2007.
> The TV program it refers to was broadcast in 2006.
> The court dismissal referred to, was in 2007.
>
> It's old news. Not recent.

Ah. I think I did hear of it then. Just not recently.