I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.

So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.

On 7/1/2013 6:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>
> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book
> marks.

Flash has been acting up.

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On 01/07/2013 6:27 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/1/2013 6:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
>> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
>> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
>> For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
>> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
>> just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>>
>> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
>> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
>> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book
>> marks.
>
> Flash has been acting up.
>

That's true. It was happening with Flash as well.
But.... uninstalling and then downloading and installing seems to have
fixed the problem.... for now.

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:13:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
>been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
>Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
>For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
>periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
>just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>
>So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
>rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
>installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.

I have a love-hate relationship with Firefox. When it first came out,
it was great. I think the problem with it these days is that it tries
to do too many things and please everyone, which has made it quite
bloated and less stable than it once was.

Dave Smith > wrote:
> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons. For
> the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was just
> crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>
> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.

Mine seems fine on the main machine, but might have been updated a couple
years ago. Last time I updated XP was, maybe last year.

Greg

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:13:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>
> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.

One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:27:31 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 7/1/2013 6:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> > been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> > Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> > For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> > periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> > just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> >
> > So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> > rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> > installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book
> > marks.
>
> Flash has been acting up.

I have to close "Runtime error 217 at 00B900B" every morning or else
Chrome won't boot up. The message just says Error, not what is
causing it. Firefox occasionally gives me the Flash error message,
but it's not as regular as the Chrome error message... whatever that
one is all about.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:03:10 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
wrote:

> Dave Smith > wrote:
> > I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> > been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> > Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons. For
> > the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> > periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was just
> > crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> >
> > So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> > rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> > installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
>
> Mine seems fine on the main machine, but might have been updated a couple
> years ago. Last time I updated XP was, maybe last year.
>

I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
machine with Win7.


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On 7/1/2013 9:28 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:03:10 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith > wrote:
>>> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
>>> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
>>> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons. For
>>> the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
>>> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was just
>>> crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>>>
>>> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
>>> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
>>> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
>>
>> Mine seems fine on the main machine, but might have been updated a couple
>> years ago. Last time I updated XP was, maybe last year.
>>
>
> I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
> machine with Win7.
>
>
Have you updated each to the latest release?

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:57:55 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/1/2013 9:28 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:03:10 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Smith > wrote:
> >>> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> >>> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> >>> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons. For
> >>> the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> >>> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was just
> >>> crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> >>>
> >>> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> >>> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> >>> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
> >>
> >> Mine seems fine on the main machine, but might have been updated a couple
> >> years ago. Last time I updated XP was, maybe last year.
> >>
> >
> > I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
> > machine with Win7.
> >
> >
> Have you updated each to the latest release?

I don't do it manually. They are set to update automatically and
constantly. Chrome is v28.0.1500.63 and FF is v22. Neither problem
is new. I reformatted my computer after a year in an attempt to get
rid of the problems, but they came back as soon as I reinstalled FF
and Chrome. It's not me, it's them.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 7/1/2013 11:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:57:55 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2013 9:28 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:03:10 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Smith > wrote:
>>>>> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
>>>>> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
>>>>> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons. For
>>>>> the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
>>>>> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was just
>>>>> crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>>>>>
>>>>> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
>>>>> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
>>>>> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
>>>>
>>>> Mine seems fine on the main machine, but might have been updated a couple
>>>> years ago. Last time I updated XP was, maybe last year.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
>>> machine with Win7.
>>>
>>>
>> Have you updated each to the latest release?
>
> I don't do it manually. They are set to update automatically and
> constantly. Chrome is v28.0.1500.63 and FF is v22. Neither problem
> is new. I reformatted my computer after a year in an attempt to get
> rid of the problems, but they came back as soon as I reinstalled FF
> and Chrome. It's not me, it's them.
>

I get that.

In some ways we all seem to be drawn back to Microsoft's IE.

I wonder who made that the default browser curve...

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:05:07 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/1/2013 11:59 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:57:55 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/1/2013 9:28 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
> >>> machine with Win7.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Have you updated each to the latest release?
> >
> > I don't do it manually. They are set to update automatically and
> > constantly. Chrome is v28.0.1500.63 and FF is v22. Neither problem
> > is new. I reformatted my computer after a year in an attempt to get
> > rid of the problems, but they came back as soon as I reinstalled FF
> > and Chrome. It's not me, it's them.
> >
>
> I get that.
>
> In some ways we all seem to be drawn back to Microsoft's IE.
>
> I wonder who made that the default browser curve...

I'm not drawn to IE and don't use it. However, IE is a Microsoft
product. It's their OS, their browser and they get to set the
rules... but it's possible to make another browser the default and
that's what I do.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 7/2/2013 2:12 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:05:07 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2013 11:59 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:57:55 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/2013 9:28 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I never had problems with either Firefox or Chrome until I got a new
>>>>> machine with Win7.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Have you updated each to the latest release?
>>>
>>> I don't do it manually. They are set to update automatically and
>>> constantly. Chrome is v28.0.1500.63 and FF is v22. Neither problem
>>> is new. I reformatted my computer after a year in an attempt to get
>>> rid of the problems, but they came back as soon as I reinstalled FF
>>> and Chrome. It's not me, it's them.
>>>
>>
>> I get that.
>>
>> In some ways we all seem to be drawn back to Microsoft's IE.
>>
>> I wonder who made that the default browser curve...
>
> I'm not drawn to IE and don't use it. However, IE is a Microsoft
> product. It's their OS, their browser and they get to set the
> rules... but it's possible to make another browser the default and
> that's what I do.
>

For a time I was rather taken with Opera, but it began experiencing more
errors on certain web sites and I moved on.

Firefox is enjoyable, but not for .pdf files.

And so it goes. Wish I'd taken the Apple plunge.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
> problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
> Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.

sf is Pinterest connected to facebook or Chrome or any other thing?

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On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:01:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> Firefox is enjoyable, but not for .pdf files.

I have zero problems opening a .pdf from the internet because I
installed Adobe Reader - and that was that. If you don't want to
install a free Adobe product, you could try this (which I haven't
used) http://www.foxitsoftware.com/Secure_PDF_Reader/

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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:59:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
> > problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
> > Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.
>
> sf is Pinterest connected to facebook or Chrome or any other thing?
>

When you sign up, you are required to use either a Twitter or Facebook
account to do it. I didn't want to link it to FB, so I created a
Twitter account for the explicit purpose of joining Pinterest. To my
great relief, I was able to delink them immediately. I delinked them
through "settings" as soon as I opened the Pinterest account and have
experienced no problems in the two years since. I use Pinterest for
my own personal interests and am not trying to be "social" with it. I
Pin a lot - god forbid I should be posting every single pin to my FB
timeline/news feed or tweet them automatically. Gaaak!

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:59:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
>> > problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
>> > Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.
>>
>> sf is Pinterest connected to facebook or Chrome or any other thing?
>>
>
> When you sign up, you are required to use either a Twitter or Facebook
> account to do it. I didn't want to link it to FB, so I created a
> Twitter account for the explicit purpose of joining Pinterest. To my
> great relief, I was able to delink them immediately. I delinked them
> through "settings" as soon as I opened the Pinterest account and have
> experienced no problems in the two years since. I use Pinterest for
> my own personal interests and am not trying to be "social" with it. I
> Pin a lot - god forbid I should be posting every single pin to my FB
> timeline/news feed or tweet them automatically. Gaaak!

Thanks I will look into it

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On 7/2/2013 12:06 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:01:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> Firefox is enjoyable, but not for .pdf files.
>
> I have zero problems opening a .pdf from the internet because I
> installed Adobe Reader - and that was that. If you don't want to
> install a free Adobe product, you could try this (which I haven't
> used) http://www.foxitsoftware.com/Secure_PDF_Reader/
>
I've alternated with both plugins, still getting odd results.

I may need to reinstall cleanly.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:50:58 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:59:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
> >> > problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
> >> > Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.
> >>
> >> sf is Pinterest connected to facebook or Chrome or any other thing?
> >>
> >
> > When you sign up, you are required to use either a Twitter or Facebook
> > account to do it. I didn't want to link it to FB, so I created a
> > Twitter account for the explicit purpose of joining Pinterest. To my
> > great relief, I was able to delink them immediately. I delinked them
> > through "settings" as soon as I opened the Pinterest account and have
> > experienced no problems in the two years since. I use Pinterest for
> > my own personal interests and am not trying to be "social" with it. I
> > Pin a lot - god forbid I should be posting every single pin to my FB
> > timeline/news feed or tweet them automatically. Gaaak!
>
> Thanks I will look into it
>

Let me know if you decide to do it, so I can follow your recipe
boards!


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In article >, says...
>
> I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>
> So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.

Firefox upgraded to 22 on my machine. I see 23 is coming soon but 22
broke Sage 1.4.15. So I updated to Sage 1.5 - an the thing is it will
only update the feeds if I restart the browser. You can click the
refresh button forever and it won't update.

Only reason I stay with Firefox is because of Sage. I haven't yet found
a good RSS reader that works with Chrome or Safari.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:27:31 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
> > On 7/1/2013 6:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> > > been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> > > Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> > > For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> > > periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> > > just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> > >
> > > So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> > > rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> > > installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book
> > > marks.
> >
> > Flash has been acting up.
>
> I have to close "Runtime error 217 at 00B900B" every morning or else
> Chrome won't boot up. The message just says Error, not what is
> causing it. Firefox occasionally gives me the Flash error message,
> but it's not as regular as the Chrome error message... whatever that
> one is all about.

Best thing you can do is go search for prior versions of Flash and
download it.

Then remove Flash from the browser add-on's. Install the older version
and voila, Flash issue solved.

The new updates of Flash are MAJOR CPU pigs.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:13:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> >been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> >Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> >For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> >periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> >just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> >
> >So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> >rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> >installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
>
> I have a love-hate relationship with Firefox. When it first came out,
> it was great. I think the problem with it these days is that it tries
> to do too many things and please everyone, which has made it quite
> bloated and less stable than it once was.

Agreed - I think this frequent upgrade thing is killing their market.

I met the development team right around the time Mozilla 2 came about.
Good guys but it's gotten WAY out of hand.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:29:34 -0400, T >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:27:31 -0400, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/1/2013 6:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
> > > > been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
> > > > Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
> > > > For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
> > > > periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
> > > > just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
> > > >
> > > > So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
> > > > rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
> > > > installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book
> > > > marks.
> > >
> > > Flash has been acting up.
> >
> > I have to close "Runtime error 217 at 00B900B" every morning or else
> > Chrome won't boot up. The message just says Error, not what is
> > causing it. Firefox occasionally gives me the Flash error message,
> > but it's not as regular as the Chrome error message... whatever that
> > one is all about.
>
> Best thing you can do is go search for prior versions of Flash and
> download it.
>
> Then remove Flash from the browser add-on's. Install the older version
> and voila, Flash issue solved.


Thank you, T. I know I didn't have any problem with it until I
switched to Win7 two years ago, so I know there's a conflict. What
would switching to an older version do for me? It seems like I'd have
more trouble accessing web sites using an older version of Flash would
be far worse than the annoyance of saying okay to an error message on
start up once a day.

>
> The new updates of Flash are MAJOR CPU pigs.

Maybe, but I have a huge hard drive and lots of memory - so I don't
see it very often. I mainly hear my hard drive kick into gear, but I
don't get a notification from windows explorer telling me which
program is hogging and my computer doesn't slow down.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:50:58 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:59:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> > One of my FB friends has been having a similar problem with. My
>> >> > problem was too many open tabs (which was remedied when I joined
>> >> > Pinterest). I'll let her know what you did, thanks.
>> >>
>> >> sf is Pinterest connected to facebook or Chrome or any other thing?
>> >>
>> >
>> > When you sign up, you are required to use either a Twitter or Facebook
>> > account to do it. I didn't want to link it to FB, so I created a
>> > Twitter account for the explicit purpose of joining Pinterest. To my
>> > great relief, I was able to delink them immediately. I delinked them
>> > through "settings" as soon as I opened the Pinterest account and have
>> > experienced no problems in the two years since. I use Pinterest for
>> > my own personal interests and am not trying to be "social" with it. I
>> > Pin a lot - god forbid I should be posting every single pin to my FB
>> > timeline/news feed or tweet them automatically. Gaaak!
>>
>> Thanks I will look into it
>>
>
> Let me know if you decide to do it, so I can follow your recipe
> boards!

I will but it won't be for a wee while. I am still trying to get to grips
with my new phone)
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On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:

> I will but it won't be for a wee while. I am still trying to get to grips
> with my new phone)

Aren't the new phones the pits?

I got a new Panasonic. It's a freakin' career field. The manual is
96 pages long. I does everything but what I'd like it to do, which is
record the call and provide a headset jack. So, I jes bought another
phone, a Plantronics cordless headphone phone ....bone! For when I'm
on the phone with some online support or another, I can touch type
hands free. I think I got more investing phone than my actual
computer.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>> I will but it won't be for a wee while. I am still trying to get to
>> grips
>> with my new phone)
>
> Aren't the new phones the pits?

Nodnodnod!!! We were quite happy with our old phones until the kids decided
we needed to get up to date with smart phones I am starting to get used
to it now ... for the first couple of weeks I was ready to sling it in the
bin ... but now I am seeing it does have its charms, not least the shopping
list thingy (thank you Sheila) and the to do list

> I got a new Panasonic. It's a freakin' career field. The manual is
> 96 pages long. I does everything but what I'd like it to do, which is
> record the call and provide a headset jack. So, I jes bought another
> phone, a Plantronics cordless headphone phone ....bone! For when I'm
> on the phone with some online support or another, I can touch type
> hands free. I think I got more investing phone than my actual
> computer.

Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
though?

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On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:



> Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
> though?

Oh yes. It's a little pod about the size of a beeper and it's a
cordless phone, so you can walk anywhere within range of the base,
even outdoors. The pod goes to a headset so one is hands free. I can
even cook or wash dishes while chatting on phone. It's not new. I
had a couple models jes like this new one for several years. I wore
'em out.

http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/ct14

You can get 'em as cheap as $70USD for refurbs.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>
>
>> Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
>> though?
>
> Oh yes. It's a little pod about the size of a beeper and it's a
> cordless phone, so you can walk anywhere within range of the base,
> even outdoors. The pod goes to a headset so one is hands free. I can
> even cook or wash dishes while chatting on phone. It's not new. I
> had a couple models jes like this new one for several years. I wore
> 'em out.
>
> http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/ct14
>
> You can get 'em as cheap as $70USD for refurbs.

It looks cool
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On 7/3/2013 9:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
>>> though?
>>
>> Oh yes. It's a little pod about the size of a beeper and it's a
>> cordless phone, so you can walk anywhere within range of the base,
>> even outdoors. The pod goes to a headset so one is hands free. I can
>> even cook or wash dishes while chatting on phone. It's not new. I
>> had a couple models jes like this new one for several years. I wore
>> 'em out.
>>
>> http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/ct14
>>
>> You can get 'em as cheap as $70USD for refurbs.
>
> It looks cool

Yes, it does. I don't care for something over the top of my head with
like a headband.

We used something similar to this at work (this is the "home version",
ha!) for many years:

http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/mx500i

It was handy at the office walking from one department to another. I
don't really need something like this at home. I simply walk into the
next room and pick up the phone. Or not.

Jill

On 3 Jul 2013 10:26:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>> I will but it won't be for a wee while. I am still trying to get to grips
>> with my new phone)
>
>Aren't the new phones the pits?
>
>I got a new Panasonic. It's a freakin' career field. The manual is
>96 pages long.

Gadgets are getting too small and complicated/fiddly to use for me...

I must be getting old - even though I used to work in IT, I can't be
bothered using the Interweb on anything other than a full sized PC and
as for anything portable, I only want a phone I can make calls on,
send a text and maybe take a photo occasionally.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:30:15 -0400, T >
wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:13:17 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I have been using Firefox as my default browser for years. Lately it has
>> >been acting up. I don't know if anyone else is having similar problems.
>> >Maybe it is because I have had dozens of updates and updates add-ons.
>> >For the last few weeks it started freezing up if unattended for extended
>> >periods. The it started freezing up more frequently. By today it was
>> >just crapping out completely every time I tried to do something.
>> >
>> >So... I uninstalled it.. after importing the bookmarks to IE. Then I
>> >rebooted and used IE to find and download and install Firefox. Once
>> >installed I tried it out. It works great. It even has all my old book marks.
>>
>> I have a love-hate relationship with Firefox. When it first came out,
>> it was great. I think the problem with it these days is that it tries
>> to do too many things and please everyone, which has made it quite
>> bloated and less stable than it once was.
>
>Agreed - I think this frequent upgrade thing is killing their market.
>
>I met the development team right around the time Mozilla 2 came about.
>Good guys but it's gotten WAY out of hand.

It would be nice if they developed a more stripped down, faster,
leaner, meaner, alternative version of FF.

"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> I must be getting old - even though I used to work in IT, I can't be
> bothered using the Interweb on anything other than a full sized PC and
> as for anything portable, I only want a phone I can make calls on,
> send a text and maybe take a photo occasionally.

heh.... my phone does calls only. And that's all I need. Talk about getting
old!@


g.

On 7/3/2013 8:34 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
>
>
>
>> Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
>> though?
>
> Oh yes. It's a little pod about the size of a beeper and it's a
> cordless phone, so you can walk anywhere within range of the base,
> even outdoors. The pod goes to a headset so one is hands free. I can
> even cook or wash dishes while chatting on phone. It's not new. I
> had a couple models jes like this new one for several years. I wore
> 'em out.
>
> http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/ct14
>
> You can get 'em as cheap as $70USD for refurbs.
>
> nb
>

I have something like that for my cordless landline phone but it also
does bluetooth. I can walk outside over to my neighbors house and still
get a connection. The problem is that some people I've been talking to,
mainly at work, complain that they can't hear me. I can hear them fine
so I'm not sure what that's about. I'm starting to have the same
problem with my home cordless phone on speakerphone when on conference
calls. I sort of think it's the phone that initiated the call on the
other end that has the problem, the one in a conference room where
people are listening on its speaker. If everyone is on individual phones
no one complains they can't hear me.

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On 7/3/2013 2:43 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Gadgets are getting too small and complicated/fiddly to use for me...
>
> I must be getting old - even though I used to work in IT, I can't be
> bothered using the Interweb on anything other than a full sized PC and
> as for anything portable, I only want a phone I can make calls on,
> send a text and maybe take a photo occasionally.

I work in IT and I'm starting to feel the same way. I don't even want to
fix someone elses computer anymore. I think it's called "burn out".

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On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:37:31 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 7/3/2013 2:43 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> Gadgets are getting too small and complicated/fiddly to use for me...
>>
>> I must be getting old - even though I used to work in IT, I can't be
>> bothered using the Interweb on anything other than a full sized PC and
>> as for anything portable, I only want a phone I can make calls on,
>> send a text and maybe take a photo occasionally.
>
>I work in IT and I'm starting to feel the same way. I don't even want to
>fix someone elses computer anymore. I think it's called "burn out".

Yep, I'm so over the whole industry... I have better things to do
these days.

In article om>,
says...
>
> On 7/3/2013 8:34 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2013-07-03, Ophelia > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Wow that sounds like some deal! Can you use it away from your computer
> >> though?
> >
> > Oh yes. It's a little pod about the size of a beeper and it's a
> > cordless phone, so you can walk anywhere within range of the base,
> > even outdoors. The pod goes to a headset so one is hands free. I can
> > even cook or wash dishes while chatting on phone. It's not new. I
> > had a couple models jes like this new one for several years. I wore
> > 'em out.
> >
> > http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/ct14
> >
> > You can get 'em as cheap as $70USD for refurbs.
> >
> > nb
> >
>
> I have something like that for my cordless landline phone but it also
> does bluetooth. I can walk outside over to my neighbors house and still
> get a connection. The problem is that some people I've been talking to,
> mainly at work, complain that they can't hear me. I can hear them fine
> so I'm not sure what that's about. I'm starting to have the same
> problem with my home cordless phone on speakerphone when on conference
> calls. I sort of think it's the phone that initiated the call on the
> other end that has the problem, the one in a conference room where
> people are listening on its speaker. If everyone is on individual phones
> no one complains they can't hear me.

Where I live those devices aren't the greatest. Lots of radio sources to
screw with things like that. And if you're using bluetooth you need to
have the source very close to the device you're using else no dice. It
changes if you're indoors to almost 30 feet though.

In article om>,
says...
>
> On 7/3/2013 2:43 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> > Gadgets are getting too small and complicated/fiddly to use for me...
> >
> > I must be getting old - even though I used to work in IT, I can't be
> > bothered using the Interweb on anything other than a full sized PC and
> > as for anything portable, I only want a phone I can make calls on,
> > send a text and maybe take a photo occasionally.
>
> I work in IT and I'm starting to feel the same way. I don't even want to
> fix someone elses computer anymore. I think it's called "burn out".

I'm not completely burned out on I.T. yet. There's still too much cool
stuff to do. And plus I'm finding that skills I've had for some time are
in high demand now.

I love that I can browse the web on my phone, hit facebook, attach to
amateur radio repeaters around the world via Echolink, etc. I rarely use
my phone for voice stuff other than radio.