On 7/9/2013 3:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Mine are chipped. Pet detective said they are finding that the chips don't
> always work.

That's a very good point, Julie. You have to find out what chip
scanners the majority of the shelters and vets use and get that brand.
I wish there was a single technology but so far there isn't. *sigh*

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On 7/9/2013 7:12 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 1:11 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Pets that are allowed to roam free often times come to a bad end,
>> especially in cities. In the country you have to worry about other
>> predators. Sometimes an animal gets away and is frightened so badly by
>> the experience that you do have to coax them even if they know you. If
>> you love your pets, you always bother!!!!
>
> I live on a busy road and one of my cats got out one time. I was having
> some minor work done at my house and the guy didn't latch the storm door
> and Shamrock pushed it open. I didn't even know he was gone and then the
> guy asked me if I had a black and white cat because he saw one out back
> who wanted in. I said it can't be mine because mine don't go outside.
> Then I realized I hadn't seen him in a while which wasn't unusual
> because he always supervised workers in the house and never left their
> side. Well long story short, I decided to go out and check and sure
> enough it was him and he was frantic. Ran toward the road, I screamed
> for him and he quickly changed direction and ran into the backyard. I
> ran after him and he was HOWLING in fear and let me walk up to him, pick
> him up and take him back in the house. After that, all cats are shut in
> my bedroom when anyone is in the house doing some work.
>
Yep, when people are going to be going in and out of my house (plumbers,
repairmen, etc.) I make sure Persia is shut in the bedroom. She's an
indoor cat. She usually hides when there are strangers in the house.
But that open door can be a bit of a temptation...

Jill

On 7/9/2013 3:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I can not snatch her up because she runs when I get near her. On a good day
> she does not like to get picked up at all. Neither cat does. She loves to
> be petted but prefers to lay down and roll around when I pet her.

There is a dog rescuer that I follow on Facebook, mostly because he is
so brilliant and videotapes his rescues. He often finds the most
ingenious way to catch a scared dog and usually without being bitten.

In one case he took a large net on a pole and laid it flat on the ground
and it took him hours to coax a dog (with food) onto the net. While
distracting him with a cheeseburger piece, he *quickly* lifted the net
in one smooth motion and got the dog. Of course it was scared to death
and fighting, but in a short time he had that dog calmed down so much it
was licking his face. I was crying by the end of that video.

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On 7/9/2013 7:21 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Yep, when people are going to be going in and out of my house (plumbers,
> repairmen, etc.) I make sure Persia is shut in the bedroom. She's an
> indoor cat. She usually hides when there are strangers in the house.
> But that open door can be a bit of a temptation...

Shamrock won't hide, and he's the only one because he acts more like a
dog than a cat. He's the one I have to worry the most about. I didn't
have Bonnie or the littermates at that time, just Shadow and Shamrock,
and Shadow was sick so not likely to move much. Now, I keep workers
outside until I can get all of the cats in my room, which can be
difficult at times. The workers are always so patient about it, too.

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On 7/9/2013 7:30 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 7:21 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Yep, when people are going to be going in and out of my house (plumbers,
>> repairmen, etc.) I make sure Persia is shut in the bedroom. She's an
>> indoor cat. She usually hides when there are strangers in the house.
>> But that open door can be a bit of a temptation...
>
> Shamrock won't hide, and he's the only one because he acts more like a
> dog than a cat. He's the one I have to worry the most about. I didn't
> have Bonnie or the littermates at that time, just Shadow and Shamrock,
> and Shadow was sick so not likely to move much. Now, I keep workers
> outside until I can get all of the cats in my room, which can be
> difficult at times. The workers are always so patient about it, too.
>

Oh, and shout out to the Jam Lady! I guess we should have changed the
subject line to include cats in this thread since I know you don't want
to read about them. Sorry!

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On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there.

OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string. Gee, do
you have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus.
Predict if it's going to be a boy or a girl. You have a 50/50 chance of
being right. I guess you don't realize how ridiculous you sound.

>> FWIW,
>> using that method has never worked for me

DOH!

but at this point I will try
>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>> I want to find her!
>
> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
> thing with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
> suggestions to save a living being.
>
> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
> just sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad
> happened to her. SMH
>
I'm sorry too, if she's truly lost her cats. But perhaps they'd be
better off in a house that isn't so wacky. I don't know what she feeds
her cats. Maybe they ran away on purpose. (sorry, that was mean)

Jill

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2013 2:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Husband said he saw Jazzy this morning but he got all excited and
>>>> yelled
>>>> and
>>>> she ran off.
>>>
>>> I'm losing track here. Is Jazzy the long missing one?
>>
>> They've both been gone for the same length of time. But we keep spotting
>> Jazzy. Bali is the one we have not seen since right after they got out.
>
> Thinking out of the box for a moment, have you given any thought to
> camping out overnight near the area you think that may have run off to?

No! There are waaaay too many wild animals out there.

> Perhaps take a folding chair and warm clothes, flashlight, etc.

Wouldn't need warm clothes in this weather. I have sat out there till 5:00
a.m. off and on. Didn't help.
>
> Is there a possibility that they'd respond to your presence and make
> themselves known again?

Nope.
>
> I don't know if a camp-out would be safe where you live, but you might
> tell a few neighbors so they're not alarmed and thus could keep an eye on
> you.

Would not be safe at all and my neighbors wouldn't keep an eye on me.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:43:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "MaryL" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> I, for one, am not trying to be unkind. But the story makes no sense.
>>>> If she saw Jazzy, she should have snatched her up and taken her inside.
>>>> Then gone looking for Bali. If he's "stuck in the bushes" (which I
>>>> doubt) she would have found him by now.
>>>>
>>>> How the heck does a cat get stuck in the bushes, anyway?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~
>>>> I can't think of any way a cat would get stuck in bushes unless she
>>>> were
>>>> wearing a collar and got caught by the collar. Cats are remarkably
>>>> resilient and agile little critters. A cat might come out of brambles
>>>> with all sorts of debris stuck to its fur, but it should be able to
>>>> make
>>>> its way out of that type of situation. Incidentally, I do oppose
>>>> having
>>>> a collar on a cat because they can become caught on twigs or bushes.
>>>> If
>>>> a collar is used, it certainly should be the break-away type.
>>>
>>> I have gotten stuck in these blackberries countless times. The only way
>>> to
>>> get out is to use my hand to pull the branch away. A cat couldn't do
>>> that!
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~
>>> You are not a cat. Cats are much smaller and more agile than humans. I
>>> can't claim that it is impossible for a cat without a collar to become
>>> "stuck" in blackberries, but it would be so unusual that I have never
>>> heard of it. Moreover, when I was young I used to go horseback riding
>>> beside the type of area you described. I would pick blackberries from
>>> horseback while riding at the very edge of those brambles. I would
>>> often
>>> see rabbits, birds and even cats come running out.
>>
>>Could be. Not sure what brambles are though.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bramble
>
> "...any rough, (usually wild) tangled prickly shrub, specifically the
> blackberry bush (Rubus fruticosa), or any hybrid of similar
> appearance, with thorny stems."
>
> Doris

Okay. Thanks!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/9/2013 1:11 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Pets that are allowed to roam free often times come to a bad end,
>> especially in cities. In the country you have to worry about other
>> predators. Sometimes an animal gets away and is frightened so badly by
>> the experience that you do have to coax them even if they know you. If
>> you love your pets, you always bother!!!!
>
> I live on a busy road and one of my cats got out one time. I was having
> some minor work done at my house and the guy didn't latch the storm door
> and Shamrock pushed it open. I didn't even know he was gone and then the
> guy asked me if I had a black and white cat because he saw one out back
> who wanted in. I said it can't be mine because mine don't go outside.
> Then I realized I hadn't seen him in a while which wasn't unusual because
> he always supervised workers in the house and never left their side. Well
> long story short, I decided to go out and check and sure enough it was him
> and he was frantic. Ran toward the road, I screamed for him and he
> quickly changed direction and ran into the backyard. I ran after him and
> he was HOWLING in fear and let me walk up to him, pick him up and take him
> back in the house. After that, all cats are shut in my bedroom when
> anyone is in the house doing some work.

Yes, cats are masters of the quick escape.

Cheri

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 7/9/2013 4:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I have been told to check there. I don't think she is there seeing as
>> how
>> they neighbors are all looking for it but I've been told I must do it.
>
> I'm so glad the neighbors are helping! Good luck Julie! Purrayers that
> you find them!

No luck at the shelters.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 7/9/2013 1:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm also an advocate of micro-chipping pets. If there's even a chance
>> an pet (even an indoor-only pet) might escape, have them microchipped.
>> The first thing vets and shelters do if someone brings in a "found" pet,
>> they scan them for a chip.
>
> All of mine are chipped, even my former feral. I chipped my sister's cat
> when I took her in thinking I was keeping her. But she was miserable here
> with my 4 and could never calm down so my sister took her back after her
> move, about 3 months later. She immediately calmed down and has been
> happy ever since. But if she gets lost the chip still says she is my cat.

Well, as long as she's with your sis, not much problem with the chip, but if
you didn't know the person you would need to file a change of ownership with
the chip company and pay a fee. It's well worth it.

Cheri

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime. Tried
>> it
>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular part
>> of
>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance, I
>> want
>> to find her!
>
> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one thing
> with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
> suggestions to save a living being.
>
Actually I *am* trying everything. As I said... I have been working with
not one but three pet detectives. Plus my vet. Plus Washington Wildlife.
I did *everything* they told me to and not to do. I didn't refuse any
suggestions. The only reason I didn't go to the shelters until today was
that we *have* seen Jazzy. And they are chipped! We did go today. Bali is
not there.

> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but just
> sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad happened to
> her. SMH

Only one of the pet detectives is long distance. The other two are in this
area. I don't know what SMH means.

On 7/9/2013 8:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime. Tried
>>> it
>>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular part
>>> of
>>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance, I
>>> want
>>> to find her!
>>
>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one thing
>> with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>
> Actually I *am* trying everything. As I said... I have been working with
> not one but three pet detectives. Plus my vet. Plus Washington Wildlife.
> I did *everything* they told me to and not to do. I didn't refuse any
> suggestions. The only reason I didn't go to the shelters until today was
> that we *have* seen Jazzy. And they are chipped! We did go today. Bali is
> not there.
>
>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but just
>> sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad happened to
>> her. SMH
>
> Only one of the pet detectives is long distance. The other two are in this
> area. I don't know what SMH means.
>
>
I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to be difficult, I just get passionate
about finding lost pets because I can only imagine how I'd feel. I just
really feel bad for you, and for Bali and Jazzy.

I really hope all of the effort brings results!

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On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:11:58 PM UTC-7, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 8:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>
> > eb.com...
>
> >> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime. Tried
>
> >>> it
>
> >>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular part
>
> >>> of
>
> >>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>
> >>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>
> >>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance, I
>
> >>> want
>
> >>> to find her!
>
> >>
>
> >> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>
> >> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>
> >> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one thing
>
> >> with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>
> >> suggestions to save a living being.
>
> >>
>
> > Actually I *am* trying everything. As I said... I have been working with
>
> > not one but three pet detectives. Plus my vet. Plus Washington Wildlife.
>
> > I did *everything* they told me to and not to do. I didn't refuse any
>
> > suggestions. The only reason I didn't go to the shelters until today was
>
> > that we *have* seen Jazzy. And they are chipped! We did go today. Bali is
>
> > not there.
>
> >
>
> >> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>
> >> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but just
>
> >> sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad happened to
>
> >> her. SMH
>
> >
>
> > Only one of the pet detectives is long distance. The other two are in this
>
> > area. I don't know what SMH means.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to be difficult, I just get passionate
>
> about finding lost pets because I can only imagine how I'd feel. I just
>
> really feel bad for you, and for Bali and Jazzy.
>
>
>
> I really hope all of the effort brings results!
>
>
>
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I totally agree...
I have a kitty who loves the sound of paper tearing and then the wads tossed on the ground. I hear that cigarette cellophane has the same effect...

On 09/07/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>> Tried it
>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>> part of
>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>> I want
>> to find her!
>
> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse.


Don't worry about dumping on her. She lives for the attention.


She was given good advice and refused it? LOL.... that is what she does
best. That's why so many people just skip the advice and go right for
the dumping.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a
>>> particular
>>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't
>>> there.
>
> OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string. Gee, do you
> have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus. Predict if
> it's going to be a boy or a girl. You have a 50/50 chance of being right.
> I guess you don't realize how ridiculous you sound.
>
>>> FWIW,
>>> using that method has never worked for me
>
> DOH!
>
> but at this point I will try
>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>> I want to find her!
>>
>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
>> thing with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>
>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
>> just sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad
>> happened to her. SMH
>>
> I'm sorry too, if she's truly lost her cats. But perhaps they'd be better
> off in a house that isn't so wacky. I don't know what she feeds her cats.
> Maybe they ran away on purpose. (sorry, that was mean)

As I said. I have tried all the standard stuff and we still can't find
Bali. At this point I will try pretty much anything!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2013 10:57 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 03:17:14 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> t...
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>>> Other neighbors are very unobservant. As I said... Jazzy walked
>>>>> around
>>>>> V_____'s legs twice then about two minutes later she turned around and
>>>>> said
>>>>> there had been no cats in her yard.
>>>>
>>>> How do you know what Jazzy did? Is that information from the pet
>>>> psychic?
>>>
>>> OMFG! I will say it again. Angela and I were sitting in the yard next
>>> door
>>> as several people told us to do. It was dusk. V_____'s yard is next to
>>> the
>>> one we were sitting in and there is no fence separating them. We saw
>>> Jazzy
>>> walking around her legs. Now where Jazzy was before that, I don't know.
>>> I
>>> just happened to look over and see her. Then maybe 2 minutes later she
>>> turned around and said that she was sorry but she hadn't seen any cats
>>> in
>>> her yard.
>>
>> Why didn't you go overt and get your cat if you saw it over there?
>>
> Or yell over to V____ "hey, that's my cat! Please keep her there."
> Sheesh. Suddenly the neighbor never saw the cat? They must be as nutty
> as she is. Now you see a cat, now you don't.
>
Seriously? Do you know what a scared cat does when soome yells? Or a
stranger tries to pick them up? Jazzy hates being picked up! Try to do it
and she'll bolt! She has been around since then.

>> I don't think I'm the only one having trouble understanding.
>>
> No, you're not the only one.
>
>> I also thought you didn't have access to that yard (why didn't you ask
>> the owner if he was there yesterday?!?). In any event, I would hop
>> the fence knowing that I would not be bothering anyone (you said the
>> house was empty). Or in your case, have your husband hop the fence.
>> At least that way you can clear your mind of the mystic berry bushes.

So... You'd hop about a 6 foot tall fence right into the blackberries? Oh
that would be smart. And my husband can't do it. He is on call 24/7 for
two weeks and they are not leaving him alone. He is lucky to get 8 hours of
sleep.
>>

>>
>> -sw> Mystic Berry... sounds like good name for a band from the 1960's.

I see a car in front of that house. Going to go see if they're home. I
still think not. Don't think it's their car but don't really know. Don't
know those people.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/9/2013 1:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm also an advocate of micro-chipping pets. If there's even a chance
>> an pet (even an indoor-only pet) might escape, have them microchipped.
>> The first thing vets and shelters do if someone brings in a "found" pet,
>> they scan them for a chip.
>
> All of mine are chipped, even my former feral. I chipped my sister's cat
> when I took her in thinking I was keeping her. But she was miserable here
> with my 4 and could never calm down so my sister took her back after her
> move, about 3 months later. She immediately calmed down and has been
> happy ever since. But if she gets lost the chip still says she is my cat.

Mine are chipped but the shelters are telling me that the chips aren't
always effective.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/9/2013 3:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Mine are chipped. Pet detective said they are finding that the chips
>> don't
>> always work.
>
> That's a very good point, Julie. You have to find out what chip scanners
> the majority of the shelters and vets use and get that brand. I wish there
> was a single technology but so far there isn't. *sigh*
>

That's not the problem. The problem is that they won't always scan.

On 7/9/2013 8:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 7/9/2013 3:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Mine are chipped. Pet detective said they are finding that the chips
>>> don't
>>> always work.
>>
>> That's a very good point, Julie. You have to find out what chip scanners
>> the majority of the shelters and vets use and get that brand. I wish there
>> was a single technology but so far there isn't. *sigh*
>>
>
> That's not the problem. The problem is that they won't always scan.
>
>
Understood. I always have my vet scan them when they're in for their
yearly to make sure they are still scan-able.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/9/2013 8:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>> Tried
>>>> it
>>>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>>>> part
>>>> of
>>>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there.
>>>> FWIW,
>>>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance, I
>>>> want
>>>> to find her!
>>>
>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
>>> thing
>>> with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>>
>> Actually I *am* trying everything. As I said... I have been working
>> with
>> not one but three pet detectives. Plus my vet. Plus Washington
>> Wildlife.
>> I did *everything* they told me to and not to do. I didn't refuse any
>> suggestions. The only reason I didn't go to the shelters until today was
>> that we *have* seen Jazzy. And they are chipped! We did go today. Bali
>> is
>> not there.
>>
>>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
>>> just
>>> sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad happened
>>> to
>>> her. SMH
>>
>> Only one of the pet detectives is long distance. The other two are in
>> this
>> area. I don't know what SMH means.
>>
>>
> I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to be difficult, I just get passionate
> about finding lost pets because I can only imagine how I'd feel. I just
> really feel bad for you, and for Bali and Jazzy.
>
> I really hope all of the effort brings results!

The people who were not home finally are! And they do have a lot of
blackberries but if she is stuck in there, there would be no way I could get
to her. It's an interesting yard. There's like the regular grassy part.
Then a huge, wide, deep ditch that goes around from the back to the other
side. The stream cuts across that. There is a piece of wood across the
stream. But the blackberries are very thick and the ditch areas are all
full of tall weeds. I did see Jazzy jump from V's fence down into there
but... I don't see how she did. She would have landed smack into the
blackberries.

Those people have seen the big black cat that V's dad referred to and also a
big white cat. They said they are in their yard a lot and will look for
them. They seem like very nice people. I had just never met them before.
They are newlyweds.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
news
> On 09/07/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>> Tried it
>>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>>> part of
>>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>> I want
>>> to find her!
>>
>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse.
>
>
> Don't worry about dumping on her. She lives for the attention.
>
>
> She was given good advice and refused it? LOL.... that is what she does
> best. That's why so many people just skip the advice and go right for

What exactly was this advice that I refused? I drove today almost to
Marysville to a shelter and then to another one near my bro's house.
Someone could possibly have taken Bali to the one but Marysville? It's on
some isolated road too. Very doubtful that anyone would go all the way out
there. They had very few found cats and also very few listed as lost. So
big waste of time. That was the only thing I had not done because I figured
they were chipped and I do know that Jazzy is here.

Other than that, I have done every single thing that the professionals have
done including getting the wildlife cam. And not only did I get one, I got
two!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/9/2013 8:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 7/9/2013 3:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mine are chipped. Pet detective said they are finding that the chips
>>>> don't
>>>> always work.
>>>
>>> That's a very good point, Julie. You have to find out what chip
>>> scanners
>>> the majority of the shelters and vets use and get that brand. I wish
>>> there
>>> was a single technology but so far there isn't. *sigh*
>>>
>>
>> That's not the problem. The problem is that they won't always scan.
>>
>>
> Understood. I always have my vet scan them when they're in for their
> yearly to make sure they are still scan-able.

Oh! I never thought to do that.

On 7/9/2013 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a
>>>> particular
>>>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't
>>>> there.
>>
>> OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string. Gee, do you
>> have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus. Predict if
>> it's going to be a boy or a girl. You have a 50/50 chance of being right.
>> I guess you don't realize how ridiculous you sound.
>>
>>>> FWIW,
>>>> using that method has never worked for me
>>
>> DOH!
>>
>> but at this point I will try
>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>>> I want to find her!
>>>
>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
>>> thing with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>>
>>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
>>> just sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad
>>> happened to her. SMH
>>>
>> I'm sorry too, if she's truly lost her cats. But perhaps they'd be better
>> off in a house that isn't so wacky. I don't know what she feeds her cats.
>> Maybe they ran away on purpose. (sorry, that was mean)
>
> As I said. I have tried all the standard stuff and we still can't find
> Bali. At this point I will try pretty much anything!
>
>
For goodness sakes, camp out at night then!

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2013 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a
>>>>> particular
>>>>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't
>>>>> there.
>>>
>>> OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string. Gee, do
>>> you
>>> have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus. Predict if
>>> it's going to be a boy or a girl. You have a 50/50 chance of being
>>> right.
>>> I guess you don't realize how ridiculous you sound.
>>>
>>>>> FWIW,
>>>>> using that method has never worked for me
>>>
>>> DOH!
>>>
>>> but at this point I will try
>>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>>>> I want to find her!
>>>>
>>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was
>>>> going
>>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
>>>> thing with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>>>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>>>
>>>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>>>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
>>>> just sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad
>>>> happened to her. SMH
>>>>
>>> I'm sorry too, if she's truly lost her cats. But perhaps they'd be
>>> better
>>> off in a house that isn't so wacky. I don't know what she feeds her
>>> cats.
>>> Maybe they ran away on purpose. (sorry, that was mean)
>>
>> As I said. I have tried all the standard stuff and we still can't find
>> Bali. At this point I will try pretty much anything!
>>
>>
> For goodness sakes, camp out at night then!

The guy didn't give me permission to camp in his yard. Plus it is all bumpy
with now about 2 ft. tall weeds. He doesn't bother to keep it up at all.
All kinds of bugs on the ground and wild animals. Probably more than one
raccoon. No way would I do that. Plus, I only saw Jazzy in that yard the
first night. I know the psychic led me to believe that is where she is.
But the pet detective I spoke to last night said that by about day 7 if she
really were stuck and injured, she would be calling for help. While she
does have a very tiny voice, there was no noise coming from there. And as I
said, I beat down and poked through most all of it. If she is in there at
all it would have to be so deep in there I couldn't get to her.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:13:48 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Why didn't you go overt and get your cat if you saw it over there?
>>>>
>>>> For one thing I am disabled. By the time I would have walked over
>>>> there
>>>> she
>>>> would have been gone.
>>>
>>> Now you're making excuses for not going and recovering your cat. You
>>> also said Angela was with you. Is she disabled, too?
>>>
>> The cat was clear in another yard. Do you think cats just stand still
>> and
>> wait for people to go pick them up? Angela didn't see her.
>
> Two posts ago you said:
>
> "I will say it again. Angela and I were sitting in the yard next door
> as several people told us to do. It was dusk. V_____'s yard is next
> to the one we were sitting in and there is no fence separating them.
> We saw Jazzy walking around her legs."
>
> Repeat: WE saw jazzy walking around her legs (and then you
> contradicted by saying the cat was in back of her so maybe she didn't
> see)
>
> Something is obviously not right here.

*sigh* She walked from one side to the other of her twice in a semi circle.
She went to either side and behind. Do all of these minute details really
matter to you? Or anyone else here? Mostly all I am getting is smart
remarks and then people telling me that I won't do what I am supposed to do.
Or something like that.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:22:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 09/07/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>> Tried it
>>>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>>>> part of
>>>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there. FWIW,
>>>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>>> I want
>>>> to find her!
>>>
>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was going
>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse.
>>
>>
>> Don't worry about dumping on her. She lives for the attention.
>>
>>
>> She was given good advice and refused it? LOL.... that is what she does
>> best. That's why so many people just skip the advice and go right for
>
>What exactly was this advice that I refused? I drove today almost to
>Marysville to a shelter and then to another one near my bro's house.

Why did you drive to the shelters? Couldn't you have just phoned them
and given them a descripton of the cats?

>Other than that, I have done every single thing that the professionals have
>done including getting the wildlife cam. And not only did I get one, I got
>two!

We've had a bear coming around our yard the past year or so. (And this
isn't bear country.) The critter cam finally gave us a positive ID.

Doris

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:35:35 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a
>>>> particular
>>>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't
>>>> there.
>>
>> OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string.
>
> I started reading that post before I looked at the author and I
> thought at first it was somebody mocking/spoofing her. Then I looked
> at the author and lo and behold...
>
>> Gee, do
>> you have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus.
>> Predict if it's going to be a boy or a girl.
>
> I swear that one works! It works if you just dangle a penny on a
> string over a person's palm, too. I've gotten 6 out of 6 pregnancies
> right that way.
>
> It works! Cross my heart I'm going to die!
>
> Anyway, I hope your cats finally get the great outdoors out of their
> system and come home. They ARE fixed, right?

Of course they are fixed. And chipped. And although I don't want them out
there and would prefer them to be home, Jazzy is very responsible and I
don't really worry so much about her. Bali is...well...stupid! Just flat
out stupid! Which is perhaps why Jazzy didn't want to let her go. I don't
know if cats can have mental deficiencies like people can, but she sure does
rather seem to be that way. Has already done more dumb things in her life
than I care to remember. Then again, she had two kinds of worms in her when
we got her. So perhaps as a kitten she was not so healthy and that affected
something. Dunno. Haven't even had the chance to check my wildlife cams
since I got back due to freezer problems.

On 7/9/2013 11:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Of course they are fixed. And chipped. And although I don't want them out
> there and would prefer them to be home, Jazzy is very responsible and I
> don't really worry so much about her. Bali is...well...stupid! Just flat
> out stupid! Which is perhaps why Jazzy didn't want to let her go. I don't
> know if cats can have mental deficiencies like people can, but she sure does
> rather seem to be that way. Has already done more dumb things in her life
> than I care to remember. Then again, she had two kinds of worms in her when
> we got her. So perhaps as a kitten she was not so healthy and that affected
> something. Dunno. Haven't even had the chance to check my wildlife cams
> since I got back due to freezer problems.

I wouldn't write her off as stupid. This has nothing to do with the
problem at hand but one of my cats seems like she isn't all there, sort
of like she's "stupid" but she just lives in her own world. If she
didn't have it all going on up there she wouldn't have survived as a
feral before I accidentally trapped her. I was really after some stray
stinky males that were peeing all over the place and un-neutered male
pee stinks to high heaven. I wasn't able to keep them but I had the
means to have them neutered, so I was trying to do my part and have them
neutered and then release them. One of them was friendly and was
adopted by a friend. One of them trapped turned out to be a small
female which I thought was a kitten (she was just a runt because she
hasn't grown in size since 2004 except her belly) so I kept her. She is
a true feral. Or was, now even after all of this time she's a
semi-feral and I still can't pick her up unless I trick her, which I
have to do to get her to the vet. If she doesn't have to go to the vet
I don't force her. She's a wild thing.

Anyway, stupid doesn't mean the same with them. They just live in their
own little world sometimes.

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On 7/9/2013 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/9/2013 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/9/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>>>> Tried it yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a
>>>>>> particular
>>>>>> part of the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't
>>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> OMG. First a psychic, then a stone. Now a ring on a string. Gee, do
>>>> you
>>>> have a pregnant friend? You could dangle it over her uterus. Predict if
>>>> it's going to be a boy or a girl. You have a 50/50 chance of being
>>>> right.
>>>> I guess you don't realize how ridiculous you sound.
>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW,
>>>>>> using that method has never worked for me
>>>>
>>>> DOH!
>>>>
>>>> but at this point I will try
>>>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>>>>> I want to find her!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was
>>>>> going
>>>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse. It's one
>>>>> thing with food, but it's completely different when you refuse to try
>>>>> suggestions to save a living being.
>>>>>
>>>>> The psychic and the long distance pet detective are *not* going to find
>>>>> Bali. The real methods of finding a lost pet will usually work, but
>>>>> just sometimes not overnight, and of course never if something bad
>>>>> happened to her. SMH
>>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry too, if she's truly lost her cats. But perhaps they'd be
>>>> better
>>>> off in a house that isn't so wacky. I don't know what she feeds her
>>>> cats.
>>>> Maybe they ran away on purpose. (sorry, that was mean)
>>>
>>> As I said. I have tried all the standard stuff and we still can't find
>>> Bali. At this point I will try pretty much anything!
>>>
>>>
>> For goodness sakes, camp out at night then!
>
> The guy didn't give me permission to camp in his yard. Plus it is all bumpy
> with now about 2 ft. tall weeds. He doesn't bother to keep it up at all.
> All kinds of bugs on the ground and wild animals. Probably more than one
> raccoon. No way would I do that. Plus, I only saw Jazzy in that yard the
> first night. I know the psychic led me to believe that is where she is.
> But the pet detective I spoke to last night said that by about day 7 if she
> really were stuck and injured, she would be calling for help. While she
> does have a very tiny voice, there was no noise coming from there. And as I
> said, I beat down and poked through most all of it. If she is in there at
> all it would have to be so deep in there I couldn't get to her.

Could you not camp out nearby, perhaps even in your own yard, anything
to get your scent and aura out there for her to sense?

It's a long shot, but what if?

Maybe Jazzy will sense you, come in, even lead you in the direction Bali is.

It's nerve wracking when cats do this.

On 7/9/2013 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:13:48 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why didn't you go overt and get your cat if you saw it over there?
>>>>>
>>>>> For one thing I am disabled. By the time I would have walked over
>>>>> there
>>>>> she
>>>>> would have been gone.
>>>>
>>>> Now you're making excuses for not going and recovering your cat. You
>>>> also said Angela was with you. Is she disabled, too?
>>>>
>>> The cat was clear in another yard. Do you think cats just stand still
>>> and
>>> wait for people to go pick them up? Angela didn't see her.
>>
>> Two posts ago you said:
>>
>> "I will say it again. Angela and I were sitting in the yard next door
>> as several people told us to do. It was dusk. V_____'s yard is next
>> to the one we were sitting in and there is no fence separating them.
>> We saw Jazzy walking around her legs."
>>
>> Repeat: WE saw jazzy walking around her legs (and then you
>> contradicted by saying the cat was in back of her so maybe she didn't
>> see)
>>
>> Something is obviously not right here.
>
> *sigh* She walked from one side to the other of her twice in a semi circle.
> She went to either side and behind. Do all of these minute details really
> matter to you? Or anyone else here? Mostly all I am getting is smart
> remarks and then people telling me that I won't do what I am supposed to do.
> Or something like that.
>
>
I hate to mention this...but...does your neighbor dislike cats, or more
to the point your cats?

Something here just doesn't feel right.

On 7/9/2013 9:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:55:54 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:13:48 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn't you go overt and get your cat if you saw it over there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing I am disabled. By the time I would have walked over
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> would have been gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you're making excuses for not going and recovering your cat. You
>>>>> also said Angela was with you. Is she disabled, too?
>>>>>
>>>> The cat was clear in another yard. Do you think cats just stand still
>>>> and
>>>> wait for people to go pick them up? Angela didn't see her.
>>>
>>> Two posts ago you said:
>>>
>>> "I will say it again. Angela and I were sitting in the yard next door
>>> as several people told us to do. It was dusk. V_____'s yard is next
>>> to the one we were sitting in and there is no fence separating them.
>>> We saw Jazzy walking around her legs."
>>>
>>> Repeat: WE saw jazzy walking around her legs (and then you
>>> contradicted by saying the cat was in back of her so maybe she didn't
>>> see)
>>>
>>> Something is obviously not right here.
>>
>> *sigh* She walked from one side to the other of her twice in a semi circle.
>> She went to either side and behind. Do all of these minute details really
>> matter to you? Or anyone else here? Mostly all I am getting is smart
>> remarks and then people telling me that I won't do what I am supposed to do.
>> Or something like that.
>
> I'm just trying to figure out if your cat ever existed in the first
> place. You ARE inconsistent about who saw what. You ever see the
> movie, "Flightplan" with Jodie Foster?
>
> -sw
>

Why don't you knock it off with the hurtful sniping.

On 7/9/2013 11:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> You ever see the
> movie, "Flightplan" with Jodie Foster?


Strange movie! How freaked out was she??

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> *sigh* She walked from one side to the other of her twice in a semi
> circle. She went to either side and behind. Do all of these minute
> details really matter to you? Or anyone else here? Mostly all I am
> getting is smart remarks and then people telling me that I won't do what I
> am supposed to do. Or something like that.

Julie, I sincerely hope you get your cats back however you manage to do it.

Cheri

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> Could you not camp out nearby, perhaps even in your own yard, anything to
> get your scent and aura out there for her to sense?
>
> It's a long shot, but what if?
>
> Maybe Jazzy will sense you, come in, even lead you in the direction Bali
> is.
>
> It's nerve wracking when cats do this.

Here's the weird thing! Were going to go to my mom's house to take the
remainder of the frozen food because my garage freezer quit working. Did
not go because of a tire issue. *sigh* When it rains it pours here! Did
toss out some food. Yes, I know somebody here will complain about that.
But it amounted to about $6 worth of food. Not a biggie. Cooked a big
dinner tonight and managed to get the rest in either the fridge or freezer.

Anyway... Had called my mom to explain why we did not come over and as I
was hanging up the phone, there was Jazzy on the deck. This time she
sauntered around and let us get close. Did not appear to be upset and did
not call out to us. Let Angela follow her next door. And where did she go?

Yep! To that exact spot in the blackberries where the psychic said that
Bali was and to where my pendulum told me on the map where she was. Angela
was convinced that she was in there.

It was getting dark. We got the best pole we have (actually a light bulb
remover) and three flashlights. I ripped out all of the old dead branches
and we cleared it out as best we could. I looked twice and Angela looked
once. Did not see or hear a thing. So all the more frustrating. But
perhaps if she still is in there somewhere, we loosened up enough stuff to
where she can get out.

Not sure where Jazzy went. Angela said it appeared that she went around the
front of the house. Must go now and put the wildlife cams back out.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:22:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 09/07/2013 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/9/2013 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know how to do that. Have tried it many times over my lifetime.
>>>>> Tried it
>>>>> yesterday with a ring on a string. Kept leading me to a particular
>>>>> part of
>>>>> the bushes where the psychic said she was. But she wasn't there.
>>>>> FWIW,
>>>>> using that method has never worked for me but at this point I will try
>>>>> anything. If she is truly stuck somewhere and in need of assistance,
>>>>> I want
>>>>> to find her!
>>>>
>>>> I'm really sorry Julie, but you're *not* trying everything. I was
>>>> going
>>>> to avoid this thread because I don't want to jump on you along with
>>>> others, but you've been given good advice and you refuse.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't worry about dumping on her. She lives for the attention.
>>>
>>>
>>> She was given good advice and refused it? LOL.... that is what she does
>>> best. That's why so many people just skip the advice and go right for
>>
>>What exactly was this advice that I refused? I drove today almost to
>>Marysville to a shelter and then to another one near my bro's house.
>
> Why did you drive to the shelters? Couldn't you have just phoned them
> and given them a descripton of the cats?

No I could not and it says it right on their website. They are staffed with
all volunteers and can not give that information over the phone.
>
>>Other than that, I have done every single thing that the professionals
>>have
>>done including getting the wildlife cam. And not only did I get one, I
>>got
>>two!
>
> We've had a bear coming around our yard the past year or so. (And this
> isn't bear country.) The critter cam finally gave us a positive ID.

We have deer and coyote here too. Although not in our yard AFAIK. Got a
lot of raccoon pics though.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2013 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:16:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:13:48 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn't you go overt and get your cat if you saw it over there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing I am disabled. By the time I would have walked over
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> would have been gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you're making excuses for not going and recovering your cat. You
>>>>> also said Angela was with you. Is she disabled, too?
>>>>>
>>>> The cat was clear in another yard. Do you think cats just stand still
>>>> and
>>>> wait for people to go pick them up? Angela didn't see her.
>>>
>>> Two posts ago you said:
>>>
>>> "I will say it again. Angela and I were sitting in the yard next door
>>> as several people told us to do. It was dusk. V_____'s yard is next
>>> to the one we were sitting in and there is no fence separating them.
>>> We saw Jazzy walking around her legs."
>>>
>>> Repeat: WE saw jazzy walking around her legs (and then you
>>> contradicted by saying the cat was in back of her so maybe she didn't
>>> see)
>>>
>>> Something is obviously not right here.
>>
>> *sigh* She walked from one side to the other of her twice in a semi
>> circle.
>> She went to either side and behind. Do all of these minute details
>> really
>> matter to you? Or anyone else here? Mostly all I am getting is smart
>> remarks and then people telling me that I won't do what I am supposed to
>> do.
>> Or something like that.
>>
>>
> I hate to mention this...but...does your neighbor dislike cats, or more to
> the point your cats?
>
> Something here just doesn't feel right.

Not that I know of but I don't think she's an animal lover. I do think that
most people are pretty unobservant though. I tend to notice things that
others don't.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:48:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:24:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I think it's ridiculous that some folks believe people can communicate
>>> with cats on anything but the most primitive level. Not only "in
>>> person", but most of all psychically and telepathically.
>>>
>> I could communicate with a cat once.
>
>I'll let somebody else field that one.
>
>> Alas, I do not have the same abilities with my cats.
>>
>>> What's not hard to believe is that there are people out there who will
>>> gladly relieve you of your money for giving false hope of having a
>>> loved one returned to you.
>>
>> Yes. I am thinking this lady is wrong despite what the news show said.
>
>Oh, she was recently on the news <sigh>. Then business for her must
>be booming. What is happening all too often nowadays is that
>advertisers are paying media outlets to feature them in a "news
>story". This is how media, especially TV, can make more advertising
>money while still abiding by content rules set forth by the FCC
>(namely, they dictate a maximum amount of air-time you may devote to
>advertising).
>
>> She's an elderly lady. I'll give you her link.
>>
>> http://www.annettebetcher.com/index.shtml
>
>You can Betcher ass her abilities are all fictitious.
>
>-sw

She works primarily with horses. There is a reason for that. You can
tell an awful lot about a horse by its body language and inter-action
with other horses and people, allowing you to make educated guesses
about its previous treatment, neuroses and fears. Pain and unseen
injuries are also easy enough to diagnose with an educated set of
hands.

I could do this and be right about 70% of the time, but I know people
that would *connect* with the horse about 90-95% of the time. Nothing
psychic about it though, just good rapport, good touch and lots of
experience.

JB

On 7/9/2013 7:19 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/9/2013 1:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm also an advocate of micro-chipping pets. If there's even a chance
>> an pet (even an indoor-only pet) might escape, have them microchipped.
>> The first thing vets and shelters do if someone brings in a "found" pet,
>> they scan them for a chip.
>
> All of mine are chipped, even my former feral. I chipped my sister's
> cat when I took her in thinking I was keeping her. But she was
> miserable here with my 4 and could never calm down so my sister took her
> back after her move, about 3 months later. She immediately calmed down
> and has been happy ever since. But if she gets lost the chip still says
> she is my cat.
>
I'm glad your sister's cat is happy. Some cats are "only" cats.

Another point about microchips: if you move or change phone numbers call
the company and give them your new info. When I had Persia chipped I
was given a tag with an ID number and their phone number. When we
moved, I called and had them update their database.

Many lost pets have been reunited with their owners (some *many* years
later) due to microchip technology. But having a chip is only useful if
the information is kept current.

Jill

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:48:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:24:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I think it's ridiculous that some folks believe people can communicate
>>>> with cats on anything but the most primitive level. Not only "in
>>>> person", but most of all psychically and telepathically.
>>>>
>>> I could communicate with a cat once.
>>
>>I'll let somebody else field that one.
>>
>>> Alas, I do not have the same abilities with my cats.
>>>
>>>> What's not hard to believe is that there are people out there who will
>>>> gladly relieve you of your money for giving false hope of having a
>>>> loved one returned to you.
>>>
>>> Yes. I am thinking this lady is wrong despite what the news show said.
>>
>>Oh, she was recently on the news <sigh>. Then business for her must
>>be booming. What is happening all too often nowadays is that
>>advertisers are paying media outlets to feature them in a "news
>>story". This is how media, especially TV, can make more advertising
>>money while still abiding by content rules set forth by the FCC
>>(namely, they dictate a maximum amount of air-time you may devote to
>>advertising).
>>
>>> She's an elderly lady. I'll give you her link.
>>>
>>> http://www.annettebetcher.com/index.shtml
>>
>>You can Betcher ass her abilities are all fictitious.
>>
>>-sw
>
> She works primarily with horses. There is a reason for that. You can
> tell an awful lot about a horse by its body language and inter-action
> with other horses and people, allowing you to make educated guesses
> about its previous treatment, neuroses and fears. Pain and unseen
> injuries are also easy enough to diagnose with an educated set of
> hands.
>
> I could do this and be right about 70% of the time, but I know people
> that would *connect* with the horse about 90-95% of the time. Nothing
> psychic about it though, just good rapport, good touch and lots of
> experience.

That could be. I do love animals and while I don't necessarily dislike
horses, they are for sure not my favorite animal. So I don't know too much
about me. Had two friends as a kid who were horse crazy. I never
understood that. But apparently it is some sort of almost sexual thing
where they substitute the horse for a male.