We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
£61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
to dinner it will be lamb!

"Broadback" > wrote in message
...
> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb, cutup
> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what each
> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to dinner
> it will be lamb!

Enjoy I've never had the pleasure

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On Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:47:53 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
> cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
> what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
> could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
> chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
> £61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
> to dinner it will be lamb!

My favorite meat, and you can't get better than Welsh lamb.
Did the butcher talk about aging?

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:47:53 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
> cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
> what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
> could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
> chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
> £61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
> to dinner it will be lamb!

My favorite meat, and you can't get better than Welsh lamb.
---------------------------
Welsh lamb, English lamb and Pré de salé lamb are all excellent.
Graham

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:47:53 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:

> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
>what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
>could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
>chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
>£61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
>to dinner it will be lamb!

£61.73, OMG... that's over AUD$100 for a side of lamb.
A side of lamb retails in Oz for roughly £20-£30, or in my back
paddock for free (aside from the dressing and butchering). Food is
expensive in some countries. Did you get the lambs fry etc. with it?

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Broadback" > wrote in message
...
>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb, cutup
>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what each
>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to dinner
>> it will be lamb!
>
>Enjoy I've never had the pleasure

Really? Aren't you in the U.K?

On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb, cutup
>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what each
>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to dinner
>>> it will be lamb!
>>
>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>
> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>
Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
for that matter.

Jill

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb, cutup
>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what each
>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to dinner
>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>
>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>
>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>
>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>for that matter.

No, but I thought it was common over there?

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Broadback" > wrote in message
...
>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>> cutup
>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what each
>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to dinner
>>> it will be lamb!
>>
>>Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>
> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?

Yes I'm in Scotland. But, what I meant was I have never bought lamb in
Wales

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>> cutup
>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>> each
>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>> dinner
>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>
>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>
>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>
> Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis, for
> that matter.

No, not the haggis but we do eat lamb and this thread just reminded me to go
down to the freezer and haul a lump out for Sunday dinner)))))

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>> cutup
>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>> each
>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>> chops,
>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>> dinner
>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>
>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>
>>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>for that matter.
>
> No, but I thought it was common over there?

Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)

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On 7/19/2013 3:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> Yes I'm in Scotland. But, what I meant was I have never bought lamb in
> Wales
>
And Scottish hill-raised lamb is delicious.

On 18/07/2013 22:26, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:47:53 +0100, Broadback
> > wrote:
>
>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>> cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
>> what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
>> could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
>> chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
>> £61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
>> to dinner it will be lamb!
>
> £61.73, OMG... that's over AUD$100 for a side of lamb.
> A side of lamb retails in Oz for roughly £20-£30, or in my back
> paddock for free (aside from the dressing and butchering). Food is
> expensive in some countries. Did you get the lambs fry etc. with it?
>
If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there is no comparison
to Welsh lamb.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/19/2013 3:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Yes I'm in Scotland. But, what I meant was I have never bought lamb in
>> Wales
>>
> And Scottish hill-raised lamb is delicious.

It is indeed)

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On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:37:22 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
>
> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there
> is no comparison to Welsh lamb.

I've only had frozen New Zealand lamb. How does it compare fresh?

http://www.richardfisher.com

In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:37:22 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
> >
> > If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there
> > is no comparison to Welsh lamb.
>
> I've only had frozen New Zealand lamb. How does it compare fresh?

Horrible. Even in NZ :-)

Janet UK

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:05:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/19/2013 3:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I'm in Scotland. But, what I meant was I have never bought lamb in
>>>> Wales
>>>>
>>> And Scottish hill-raised lamb is delicious.
>>
>>It is indeed)
>>
>>--
> From time to time when I visit the UK a nutty cousin who lives in
> Llanidloes brings lamb to my aunts and I have to say, Welsh lamb is
> very moreish

But, but, but ... not all Welsh lamb lovers are nutty ... well not 'all' of
us ...

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On 19/07/2013 13:29, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:37:22 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
>>>
>>> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there
>>> is no comparison to Welsh lamb.
>>
>> I've only had frozen New Zealand lamb. How does it compare fresh?
>
> Horrible. Even in NZ :-)
>
> Janet UK
>
Do you mean that it tastes horrible fresh, or frozen, or both? It
certainly is not a patch on Welsh lamb!

In article >,
says...
>
> On 19/07/2013 13:29, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:37:22 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there
> >>> is no comparison to Welsh lamb.
> >>
> >> I've only had frozen New Zealand lamb. How does it compare fresh?
> >
> > Horrible. Even in NZ :-)
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> Do you mean that it tastes horrible fresh, or frozen, or both? It
> certainly is not a patch on Welsh lamb!

I mean fresh NZ lamb, in NZ :-(

I was really looking forward to it until a Kiwi warned me the NZ lamb
sold in the UK is much better than the NZ lamb available in NZ. She
maintains what they export is their best meat.

I didn't believe that could possibly be right; until I
ate/bought/cooked NZ lamb in NZ :-(

Janet UK.

On 19/07/2013 12:53 PM, Janet wrote:

>
> I mean fresh NZ lamb, in NZ :-(
>
> I was really looking forward to it until a Kiwi warned me the NZ lamb
> sold in the UK is much better than the NZ lamb available in NZ. She
> maintains what they export is their best meat.


Does she think that 9/11 was an inside job too?

> I didn't believe that could possibly be right; until I
> ate/bought/cooked NZ lamb in NZ :-(


Some people around here think that NZ lamb is an inferior meat to the
local stuff. They are comparing a frozen product to fresh, so that
might account for some differences. I have to say that NZ lamb is a lot
more affordable.


My wife has a thing about American chicken and back in the days when I
used to occasionally cross border shop. I used to buy chicken and she as
convinced it was full of chemicals and hormones and all sorts of crap.
I tried to convince her that living around here we have no guarantee of
the source of our chicken. The way chicken farming and processing works
is that farmers buy a certain number of hatchlings in anticipation of
market prices by the time they are ready for market. When the time
comes they find a buyer, hire the chicken catchers and send them to the
processing plant. On day I would see loads of chickens headed for the
border to the US. A day or two later I would see loads of chickens
coming into Canada. Americans were getting Canadian chickens and
Canadians were getting American chickens, pretty much depending on the
day of the week.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:53:18 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 19/07/2013 13:29, Janet wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > >>
> > >> On Friday, July 19, 2013 7:37:22 AM UTC-4, Broadback wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there
> > >>> is no comparison to Welsh lamb.
> > >>
> > >> I've only had frozen New Zealand lamb. How does it compare fresh?
> > >
> > > Horrible. Even in NZ :-)
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> > >
> > Do you mean that it tastes horrible fresh, or frozen, or both? It
> > certainly is not a patch on Welsh lamb!
>
> I mean fresh NZ lamb, in NZ :-(
>
> I was really looking forward to it until a Kiwi warned me the NZ lamb
> sold in the UK is much better than the NZ lamb available in NZ. She
> maintains what they export is their best meat.
>
> I didn't believe that could possibly be right; until I
> ate/bought/cooked NZ lamb in NZ :-(
>

That's too bad. I hate the muttony flavor of Australian lamb and love
the mild, lamby flavor of American. NZ, IMO, is between them: not as
muttony as Australian, but not as mild as American. Can't say I've
eaten Welsh lamb, so no grounds for comparison there.

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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:44:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>>> cutup
>>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>>> each
>>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>>> chops,
>>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>>> dinner
>>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>>
>>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>>
>>>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>>for that matter.
>>
>> No, but I thought it was common over there?
>
>Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)

Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:42:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>> cutup
>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>> each
>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>> dinner
>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>
>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>
>> Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis, for
>> that matter.

See, Ophelia can speak for herself...

>No, not the haggis but we do eat lamb and this thread just reminded me to go
>down to the freezer and haul a lump out for Sunday dinner)))))

Had a nice slow cooked leg earlier in the week and lamb pie yesterday!

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:22 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:

>On 18/07/2013 22:26, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:47:53 +0100, Broadback
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>> cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
>>> what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
>>> could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
>>> chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
>>> £61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
>>> to dinner it will be lamb!
>>
>> £61.73, OMG... that's over AUD$100 for a side of lamb.
>> A side of lamb retails in Oz for roughly £20-£30, or in my back
>> paddock for free (aside from the dressing and butchering). Food is
>> expensive in some countries. Did you get the lambs fry etc. with it?
>>
>If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there is no comparison
>to Welsh lamb.

Australia is a big country, with a wide range of environments. What
lamb gets exported overseas, I don't know, other than most likely from
inland areas.

I've always wanted to try salt marsh lamb like that raised in the UK
and Europe.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:44:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>>>> cutup
>>>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>>>> chops,
>>>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>>>> dinner
>>>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>>>
>>>>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>>>for that matter.
>>>
>>> No, but I thought it was common over there?
>>
>>Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)
>
> Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!

lol noooooo)) I have piece of leg just now which I have sliced and atm it
is marinating in garlic, mint and rosemary)

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:42:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>>> cutup
>>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>>> each
>>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>>> chops,
>>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>>> dinner
>>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>>
>>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>>
>>> Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>> for
>>> that matter.
>
> See, Ophelia can speak for herself...
>
>>No, not the haggis but we do eat lamb and this thread just reminded me to
>>go
>>down to the freezer and haul a lump out for Sunday dinner)))))
>
> Had a nice slow cooked leg earlier in the week and lamb pie yesterday!

yummmm

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> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:24:58 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:05:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On 7/19/2013 3:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I'm in Scotland. But, what I meant was I have never bought lamb
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Wales
>>>>>>
>>>>> And Scottish hill-raised lamb is delicious.
>>>>
>>>>It is indeed)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>> From time to time when I visit the UK a nutty cousin who lives in
>>> Llanidloes brings lamb to my aunts and I have to say, Welsh lamb is
>>> very moreish
>>
>>But, but, but ... not all Welsh lamb lovers are nutty ... well not 'all'
>>of
>>us ...
>>
>>--
> Maybe not, but she definitely is
>
lol

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On Friday, July 19, 2013 3:42:51 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>
> >>> ...
>
> >>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>
> >>>> cutup
>
> >>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>
> >>>> each
>
> >>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>
> >>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump chops,
>
> >>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>
> >>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>
> >>>> dinner
>
> >>>> it will be lamb!
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>
> >>
>
> >> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>
> >>
>
> > Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis, for
>
> > that matter.
>
>
>
> No, not the haggis but we do eat lamb and this thread just reminded me to go
>
> down to the freezer and haul a lump out for Sunday dinner)))))
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Actually, lamb in Britain is notorious for actually being mutton.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 19/07/2013 12:53 PM, Janet wrote:
>
> >
> > I mean fresh NZ lamb, in NZ :-(
> >
> > I was really looking forward to it until a Kiwi warned me the NZ lamb
> > sold in the UK is much better than the NZ lamb available in NZ. She
> > maintains what they export is their best meat.
>
>
> Does she think that 9/11 was an inside job too?
>
> > I didn't believe that could possibly be right; until I
> > ate/bought/cooked NZ lamb in NZ :-(
>
>
> Some people around here think that NZ lamb is an inferior meat to the
> local stuff. They are comparing a frozen product to fresh,

In the UK it's often imported chilled, never been frozen. It still
doesn't taste as good as British hill lamb.

Janet

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:24:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:44:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>>>>>> cutup
>>>>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained what
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could not
>>>>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>>>>> chops,
>>>>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>>>>> dinner
>>>>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>>>>for that matter.
>>>>
>>>> No, but I thought it was common over there?
>>>
>>>Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)
>>
>> Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!
>
>lol noooooo)) I have piece of leg just now which I have sliced and atm it
>is marinating in garlic, mint and rosemary)

Yum yum...

On 7/19/13 7:37 AM, Broadback wrote:

> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there is no comparison
> to Welsh lamb.

I would agree that there's no *point* to this comparison, unless you
travel to both places and eat the best on offer there.

We enjoy New Zealand lamb, Colorado lamb (in Colorado), and Welsh lamb
(in Wales, at sunset, with other lambs gamboling in the pasture about 20
feet away). They can all be great, and they can all be sub-standard.

But I would agree that Welsh lamb has the best batting average, with
Colorado lamb second. Of course, that may well be because we don't get
the best NZ lamb in the US -- only mass production export meat. I'd bet
heavily on that.

-- Larry

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:24:23 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:44:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:43:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 7/18/2013 5:27 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:09:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Broadback" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a
>>>>>>>>> lamb,
>>>>>>>>> cutup
>>>>>>>>> before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>> cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we could
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg, chump
>>>>>>>>> chops,
>>>>>>>>> chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at £61.73,
>>>>>>>>> including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come to
>>>>>>>>> dinner
>>>>>>>>> it will be lamb!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy I've never had the pleasure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? Aren't you in the U.K?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just because she's in the U.K. doesn't mean she eats lamb. Or Haggis,
>>>>>>for that matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but I thought it was common over there?
>>>>
>>>>Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)
>>>
>>> Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!
>>
>>lol noooooo)) I have piece of leg just now which I have sliced and atm
>>it
>>is marinating in garlic, mint and rosemary)
>
> Yum yum...

I will send out vibes to you tomorrow when I am enjoying it <g>

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On 20/07/2013 04:14, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 7/19/13 7:37 AM, Broadback wrote:
>
>> If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there is no comparison
>> to Welsh lamb.
>
> I would agree that there's no *point* to this comparison, unless you
> travel to both places and eat the best on offer there.
>
> We enjoy New Zealand lamb, Colorado lamb (in Colorado), and Welsh lamb
> (in Wales, at sunset, with other lambs gamboling in the pasture about 20
> feet away). They can all be great, and they can all be sub-standard.
>
> But I would agree that Welsh lamb has the best batting average, with
> Colorado lamb second. Of course, that may well be because we don't get
> the best NZ lamb in the US -- only mass production export meat. I'd bet
> heavily on that.
>
> -- Larry
>
When I go walking, if bothered by sheep I simply Shout "Mint sauce!" and
off they go!

On 20/07/2013 4:11 AM, Broadback wrote:
>
>> But I would agree that Welsh lamb has the best batting average, with
>> Colorado lamb second. Of course, that may well be because we don't get
>> the best NZ lamb in the US -- only mass production export meat. I'd bet
>> heavily on that.
>>
>> -- Larry
>>
> When I go walking, if bothered by sheep I simply Shout "Mint sauce!" and
> off they go!


Is that because they are offended by sauce and prefer jelly?

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:22:49 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:22 +0100, Broadback
> wrote:
>
>>On 18/07/2013 22:26, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:47:53 +0100, Broadback
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have just been into Welsh Wales a bought ourselves half a lamb,
>>>> cutup before our very eyes by the butcher. As he cut it he explained
>>>> what each cut was. However, when we got home, surprise, surprise, we
>>>> could not remember which was which. Well some were obvious, EG, leg,
>>>> chump chops, chops and shoulder, some however remain a mystery, but at
>>>> £61.73, including 6 sausages, it was a bargain. so if you wish to come
>>>> to dinner it will be lamb!
>>>
>>> £61.73, OMG... that's over AUD$100 for a side of lamb.
>>> A side of lamb retails in Oz for roughly £20-£30, or in my back
>>> paddock for free (aside from the dressing and butchering). Food is
>>> expensive in some countries. Did you get the lambs fry etc. with it?
>>>
>>If Australian lamb is like New Zealand lamb then there is no comparison
>>to Welsh lamb.
>
>Australia is a big country, with a wide range of environments. What
>lamb gets exported overseas, I don't know, other than most likely from
>inland areas.
>
>I've always wanted to try salt marsh lamb like that raised in the UK
>and Europe.

You can get salt bush lamb widely in mainland Oz, and even coastal
lamb that grazes for the large part on seaweed (harder to get).

Comparing lamb by country is a bit silly IMO. Often they are different
breeds and, within Australia at least, have vastly different grazing
environments. Lamb from the wetter parts of SW WA is going to be very
different than lamb raised on the drier inland areas, both in taste
and texture.

I think people often mostly like what they are used to. I prefer
hogget (1 - 2 years old, 2 or 4 tooth) rather than lamb, and even a
slow roasted leg of mutton now and again.

I have had lamb from the US a few times and to my taste it was, well
tasteless, reason being is that it is mostly grain finished. Had some
great lamb from NZ and all sorts of vastly different lamb from all
over Australia.

JB

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:34:51 +0800, JBurns >
wrote:

> I think people often mostly like what they are used to.

I can agree with that.

> I prefer
> hogget (1 - 2 years old, 2 or 4 tooth) rather than lamb, and even a
> slow roasted leg of mutton now and again.

I'm pretty sure old "lamb" is part of the problem. I know regulations
changed here to call any aged sheep "lamb"; probably so Australian
imports would pass muster.
>
> I have had lamb from the US a few times and to my taste it was, well
> tasteless, reason being is that it is mostly grain finished. Had some
> great lamb from NZ and all sorts of vastly different lamb from all
> over Australia.

I'm curious now about the salt bush lamb and coastal
lamb (that grazes partly on seaweed). Are they just local and super
hard to find or are they served in Australian restaurants?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 07:10:41 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:34:51 +0800, JBurns >
>wrote:
>
>> I think people often mostly like what they are used to.
>
>I can agree with that.
>
>> I prefer
>> hogget (1 - 2 years old, 2 or 4 tooth) rather than lamb, and even a
>> slow roasted leg of mutton now and again.
>
>I'm pretty sure old "lamb" is part of the problem. I know regulations
>changed here to call any aged sheep "lamb"; probably so Australian
>imports would pass muster.

Australian lamb is strictly toothless (less than a year old) and
cannot be marketed as lamb otherwise. However, that probably does not
stop unscrupulous importers as marketing older sheep as lamb,
especially if the laws do not prohibit that. Never buy Oz
lamb/hogget/mutton that has been exported live though, farmers always
send their oldest skankiest sheep to that trade (probably not
available in the US though).

>>
>> I have had lamb from the US a few times and to my taste it was, well
>> tasteless, reason being is that it is mostly grain finished. Had some
>> great lamb from NZ and all sorts of vastly different lamb from all
>> over Australia.
>
>I'm curious now about the salt bush lamb and coastal
>lamb (that grazes partly on seaweed). Are they just local and super
>hard to find or are they served in Australian restaurants?

Salt bush lamb has become more available. At first it was only
restaurants.

A google search shows some producers.

http://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=cr#... 591572811c6f7

or

http://tinyurl.com/mlomy9d

It is not available in the supermarkets or even most butchers (here),
however it can be found at one or two butchers in my city. It is not a
local product here.

The kelp grazed lamb I have only had at a friend's farm, his sheep
started grazing the kelp when drought decimated their normal pasture,
and now seem to prefer it. He is a small producer with plenty of
coastal land though, I cannot imagine that you could run large numbers
of sheep without running out of kelp. I know he is not (yet) marketing
it as such and I cannot see that anyone else in Australia is either.

It can be sourced in the UK though.

http://www.atasteoforkney.co.uk/results.php?category=4

http://www.tasteshetland.com/faq

Hmm, seems to be a very expensive specialised product.

It was good, but not at those prices!

JB

On 19/07/2013 3:15 PM, Jeßus wrote:

>>
>> Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)
>
> Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!
>


My father was British. While Canadian born, it was at a time when
Canadians were British. His parents were both born in England. He was in
the air force during the war and spent more than three years over there.
He hated lamb. We only had it in the house once when I was a kid and
that was while my father was away on business. He could not even stand
the small of it.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:47:53 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 19/07/2013 3:15 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lamb is I meant going to Wales to buy some)
> >
> > Ohhh... I was going to say, a Brit who never tried lamb???!
> >
>
>
> My father was British. While Canadian born, it was at a time when
> Canadians were British. His parents were both born in England. He was in
> the air force during the war and spent more than three years over there.
> He hated lamb. We only had it in the house once when I was a kid and
> that was while my father was away on business. He could not even stand
> the small of it.

Weird, isn't it? Many North Americans don't seem to like lamb (not
sure if they've actually tasted it). My mother explained it away by
saying they're still fighting the range wars. It was only a guess,
but it worked for me.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:22:49 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> Comparing lamb by country is a bit silly IMO.

More than a bit!
I used to buy a side of lamb every few weeks when I lived in WA and it was
really good. We nearly always had English lamb at home, including a quarter
of the first spring lamb to be slaughtered by the local butcher.
I doubt that anyone here could tell the difference between Welsh, #1 grade
NZ*, English or Alberta. They can all be superb.

*There were 2 butchers in the village. One sold a cheaper grade of NZ lamb
than the other.

Graham