http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
or
http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg

On 7/24/13 9:57 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>

"....Historically we sold our shoppers merchandise to fill their
pantries. They are now asking us for help in understanding how to live
better lives.”"

Oh, bullshit.

-- Larry

On 7/24/2013 10:20 AM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 7/24/13 9:57 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>>
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>>
>
> "....Historically we sold our shoppers merchandise to fill their
> pantries. They are now asking us for help in understanding how to live
> better lives.”"
>
> Oh, bullshit.
>
> -- Larry
>
I have to agree that sentence sounds like bullshit. But since Publix is
where I shop (due to being closest to me) I must agree it is a clean
store. And the employees are always friendly and helpful.

Jill

On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>
> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
> would be borderline as well.
>
> -sw
>
I agree. I haven't got a TJ's in the vicinity. Nor a Costco. (I don't
think of "wholesale clubs" such as Sam's or Costco as supermarkets,
although they do sell food.) Whole Foods, I already said I'm not
driving to Savannah, GA to check it out. Sounds like a waste of time
unless I have other things to do in Savannah.

There are very few grocery stores near me. And yes, they're regional.
Things change too fast for supermarket rankings to make much sense.
Don't blink! They'll reorganize. I seem to recall the Publix where I
shop now was once upon a time (some 20 years ago?) a Winn-Dixie supermarket.

Jill

Sqwertz wrote:
> And CostCo
> would be borderline as well.
>
> -sw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIN8MmMloZE

"You know I been smokin' all a my life and I ain't dead yet"


http://www.yelp.com/user_details?use...qvcdFuU1dR8bgA

Steve "Rockin the Boat" W.'s Profile

Location
Austin, TX

Most Recent Discovery
I'm getting older

I went in to buy cigarettes as I do twice a week for the last 6 months
and was given "short" cigarettes instead of the longer 100's style. I
was halfway out the door when I realized the mistake. The door hadn't
even had time to close behind me when I went back in to get the right
cigarettes. Had to wait behind a few other people at the cash
register but when I got there he said they have a policy that once you
leave the store you cannot return or exchange anything. I told him
the door never even closed behind me so technically I never left the
store. And more importantly you gave me the wrong cigarettes. It was
a simple exchange.

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:57:24 AM UTC-4, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg

Shoot - I go for convenience. That is, I go to the one closest to the house for a bog shopping, unless I'm passing by another on the way to somewhere and just need a thing or two which don't need refrigeration. There IS another market on the way home from one of my haunts where the parking is easier than my regular market, plus they are usually less crowded with customers.


Price and cleanliness are sort of less important than the proximity to home.. I like to devote as little time to groc. shopping as possible.

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:04:57 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>
> > or
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
>
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>
> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>
> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>
> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>
> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>
>
>
> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>
> would be borderline as well.
>
>
>
> -sw

I agree. I'm in the South, but there is NO Kroger anywhere near me, and what is that H-E-B? They really should have cut their samplings ever smaller, like by COUNTY, man.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
>
> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg

I am very surprised that TJ's got such a high rating. And quick checkout?
Not at my store. There are always at least 20 customers in all the lines.
You wind up waiting a long time. They also have bad produce.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>
> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
> would be borderline as well.

Agree with you there. TJ's is a market but by no means a supermarket. And
Coctco has a limited amount of things. I can not do a full on grocery shop
there because there are just too many things they don't carry.

My favorite stores are not on that list. Those would be Central Market and
Winco, both of which are local chains. PCC Natural Market would be at the
top of my list too.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:33 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> >> or
> >> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
> >
> > I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
> > completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
> > at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
> > at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
> > nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
> >
> > And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
> > would be borderline as well.
> >
> > -sw

Much agreement on those points! Safeway is the most numerous where I
live (12 within a 5 mile radius). Is it the most numerous because
people love it or has the chain decided we have money and they want
it? I dunno. I can only say that their multi-level pricing practices
suck. I have absolutely no idea what I thought I was going to pay and
what I ended up paying unless I go back and recheck all the individual
shelf prices and all I want to do is get out of the store.

Safeway was last to the gas discount game and I still haven't figured
out how to use those gas points. I use my club card, but I'd like to
be able to use "numbers" in case I don't have the card on me. What
numbers do I use: the club card number or my telephone number? Hubby
tried numbers once and whatever it was he tried was rejected. He
didn't want to spend any time fiddling around for only 20¢ a gallon,
so he brings my club card with him now when he intends to fill up.



--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Price and cleanliness are sort of less important than the proximity to home. I like to devote as little time to groc. shopping as possible.

I love to grocery shop, but I look for value and cleanliness is always
a plus. Variety is probably my main focus though. If I know exactly
what I want, I go to the specific store that sells it. If it's just
generalized grocery shopping, then I go to a big supermarket.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:43:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> > or
> > http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
> I am very surprised that TJ's got such a high rating. And quick checkout?
> Not at my store. There are always at least 20 customers in all the lines.
> You wind up waiting a long time. They also have bad produce.
>
My stores are very busy, but move the lines quickly. I've only seen
lines of 20 at certain times of the day on weekends. If I see a long
line, I go and get one more thing. 5 minutes later the line has
disappeared and it's back to the usual 3 or 4 (if that many). Produce
at my TJ's is just as fresh as anywhere else.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:33 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>> >> or
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>> >
>> > I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>> > completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>> > at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>> > at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>> > nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>> >
>> > And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>> > would be borderline as well.
>> >
>> > -sw
>
> Much agreement on those points! Safeway is the most numerous where I
> live (12 within a 5 mile radius). Is it the most numerous because
> people love it or has the chain decided we have money and they want
> it? I dunno. I can only say that their multi-level pricing practices
> suck. I have absolutely no idea what I thought I was going to pay and
> what I ended up paying unless I go back and recheck all the individual
> shelf prices and all I want to do is get out of the store.
>
> Safeway was last to the gas discount game and I still haven't figured
> out how to use those gas points. I use my club card, but I'd like to
> be able to use "numbers" in case I don't have the card on me. What
> numbers do I use: the club card number or my telephone number? Hubby
> tried numbers once and whatever it was he tried was rejected. He
> didn't want to spend any time fiddling around for only 20¢ a gallon,
> so he brings my club card with him now when he intends to fill up.

I do not care for Safeway. I keep getting the gas points too and now see
that some stations are Safeway even though they are not near one. I
generally shop Safeway only for ad items. Overall, they don't sell the
brands that we buy and I think they have high prices.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:48:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> Agree with you there. TJ's is a market but by no means a supermarket. And
> Coctco has a limited amount of things. I can not do a full on grocery shop
> there because there are just too many things they don't carry.

I don't know why anyone would consider them full service grocery
stores. TJ's is being ruined by that attitude. I liked their
quirkiness and one time only products of the past. I used to go to
TJ's first, impulse shop to my heart's content and then go to the
supermarket and buy everything else that I needed on my list. Costco
is the same way. I don't want a restaurant sized package of
everything on my list, so I buy certain things that I hate buying very
often (like toilet paper, kleenex and toothpaste) or something I'll
use quickly, like meat that's a notch in quality above what the
grocery store sells at the same price per pound.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:30:40 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

> I prefer to buy ingredients, prepare a dish, then cook it. The few
> things I buy there are things not easily found or pricier elsewhere;
> examples are blistered peanuts, pepitas, Uncle Sam cereal and Laughing
> Cow cheese. The latter two are significantly cheaper than at other
> stores in the area.

I make a point of buying my eggs at TJ's. Their price for extra large
is significantly less than anywhere but Costco. I like all their
dairy products too, love their cheeses and their cheese prices. Now I
know who buys Laughing Cow! I've never seen anyone with that stuff in
their cart at TJ's or anywhere else for that matter.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
> I am very surprised that TJ's got such a high rating. And quick checkout?
> Not at my store. There are always at least 20 customers in all the lines.
> You wind up waiting a long time. They also have bad produce.

Not at all true where I live.

Cheri

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:04:57 AM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>
> > or
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
>
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>
> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>
> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>
> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>
> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>
>
>
> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>
> would be borderline as well.

I can't picture anyone shopping at Costco twice a week. And their produce is really hit or miss. As for meat: what does one do with a machine gun belt of chicken breast halves?

Safeway sucks, and Kroger doesn't exist in much of the West, other than Food 4 Less and Quik Stop, neither of which can be anyone's favorite. Of the ones listed that I've been to, Hy-Vee would be my favorite.

Here, I like Nob Hill (owned by Raley's)for meat, and Lunardi for produce and bread. (Lunardi's meat prices are for the carriage trade, without being any better -- not dry aged, for example.) Trader Joe's is good for dairy products and arugula -- no telling how fresh the plastic wrapped produce is.

On 7/24/2013 2:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:33 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>>>> or
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>>>
>>> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>>> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>>> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>>> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>>> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>>>
>>> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>>> would be borderline as well.
>>>
>>> -sw
>
> Much agreement on those points! Safeway is the most numerous where I
> live (12 within a 5 mile radius). Is it the most numerous because
> people love it or has the chain decided we have money and they want
> it? I dunno. I can only say that their multi-level pricing practices
> suck. I have absolutely no idea what I thought I was going to pay and
> what I ended up paying unless I go back and recheck all the individual
> shelf prices and all I want to do is get out of the store.
>
> Safeway was last to the gas discount game and I still haven't figured
> out how to use those gas points. I use my club card, but I'd like to
> be able to use "numbers" in case I don't have the card on me. What
> numbers do I use: the club card number or my telephone number? Hubby
> tried numbers once and whatever it was he tried was rejected. He
> didn't want to spend any time fiddling around for only 20¢ a gallon,
> so he brings my club card with him now when he intends to fill up.
>
>
>
They'd love you to give them your tele. number and/or link with a smart
phone.

It gets tiresome, imo.

On 7/24/2013 5:02 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote

>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote..
>>>
>>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>>>
>>> or
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>>
>> I am very surprised that TJ's got such a high rating. And quick
>> checkout? Not at my store. There are always at least 20 customers in
>> all the lines. You wind up waiting a long time. They also have bad
>> produce.
>
> Not at all true where I live.

Ditto. Not that I have visited many of them, but the produce is
nice and the clerks are friendly and the lines short.

nancy

On 7/24/2013 2:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:48:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Agree with you there. TJ's is a market but by no means a supermarket. And
>> Coctco has a limited amount of things. I can not do a full on grocery shop
>> there because there are just too many things they don't carry.
>
> I don't know why anyone would consider them full service grocery
> stores. TJ's is being ruined by that attitude. I liked their
> quirkiness and one time only products of the past. I used to go to
> TJ's first, impulse shop to my heart's content and then go to the
> supermarket and buy everything else that I needed on my list. Costco
> is the same way. I don't want a restaurant sized package of
> everything on my list, so I buy certain things that I hate buying very
> often (like toilet paper, kleenex and toothpaste) or something I'll
> use quickly, like meat that's a notch in quality above what the
> grocery store sells at the same price per pound.
>

Do yours have remarkably tight aisles?

You can never turn back in a TJs...

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:25:54 PM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Ditto. Not that I have visited many of them, but the produce is
> nice and the clerks are friendly and the lines short.
>

I agree lines move fast -- only the Items or Less line ever gets more than 3 deep.

But what do you like in the produce department? Leeks I bought there once(to avoid making another stop) came from Quebec, a 3000 mile trip.

On 7/24/2013 3:24 PM, wrote:

> Safeway sucks, and Kroger doesn't exist in much of the West, other than Food 4 Less and Quik Stop, neither of which can be anyone's favorite.

You're wrong there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger

Baker's Supermarkets (Omaha, Nebraska)
City Market (Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico)
Dillons Food Stores (Kansas, Missouri)
Fry's Food & Drug (Arizona)
King Soopers (Colorado, Wyoming)
Kroger Texas
Ralphs (Southern California)
Smith's (Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming)
Fred Meyer (Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington)
Food 4 Less (Southern California; Las Vegas, Nevada;
Foods Co. (Northern California)
Kwik Shop (Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Tennessee, Mississippi)
Loaf 'N Jug (Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wyoming)
Quik Stop (California, Nevada)
Smith's Express (Utah)

> wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:04:57 AM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>
> > or
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>
>
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>
> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>
> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>
> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>
> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>
>
>
> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>
> would be borderline as well.

I can't picture anyone shopping at Costco twice a week. And their produce is
really hit or miss. As for meat: what does one do with a machine gun belt of
chicken breast halves?

Safeway sucks, and Kroger doesn't exist in much of the West, other than Food
4 Less and Quik Stop, neither of which can be anyone's favorite. Of the ones
listed that I've been to, Hy-Vee would be my favorite.

Here, I like Nob Hill (owned by Raley's)for meat, and Lunardi for produce
and bread. (Lunardi's meat prices are for the carriage trade, without being
any better -- not dry aged, for example.) Trader Joe's is good for dairy
products and arugula -- no telling how fresh the plastic wrapped produce is.

==========

Safeway is nice where I live, as is Raleys. My favorite store used to be
Apple Market, but they went out of business due to the owners retiring after
50+ years in the grocery business. Now an In-Shape Gym is going in there.
:-(

Cheri

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:24:22 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> I can't picture anyone shopping at Costco twice a week. And their
>> produce is really hit or miss. As for meat: what does one do with a
>> machine gun belt of chicken breast halves?
>
> (There, I properly reformatted your paragraph for you)
>
> I find Costco's produce to be top notch stuff. I regularly buy their
> avocados (the most consistent on the market), romaine hearts, and
> campari tomatoes. Occasionally brussles sprouts, Persian cukes,
> haricot wertz, and roma tomatoes.
>
> -sw


I wonder if different stores have different things? I think the produce at
the Costco where I live is really nice.

Cheri

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:24:47 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/24/2013 2:03 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:33 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> >>>> or
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
> >>>
> >>> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
> >>> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
> >>> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
> >>> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
> >>> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
> >>>
> >>> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
> >>> would be borderline as well.
> >>>
> >>> -sw
> >
> > Much agreement on those points! Safeway is the most numerous where I
> > live (12 within a 5 mile radius). Is it the most numerous because
> > people love it or has the chain decided we have money and they want
> > it? I dunno. I can only say that their multi-level pricing practices
> > suck. I have absolutely no idea what I thought I was going to pay and
> > what I ended up paying unless I go back and recheck all the individual
> > shelf prices and all I want to do is get out of the store.
> >
> > Safeway was last to the gas discount game and I still haven't figured
> > out how to use those gas points. I use my club card, but I'd like to
> > be able to use "numbers" in case I don't have the card on me. What
> > numbers do I use: the club card number or my telephone number? Hubby
> > tried numbers once and whatever it was he tried was rejected. He
> > didn't want to spend any time fiddling around for only 20¢ a gallon,
> > so he brings my club card with him now when he intends to fill up.
> >
> >
> >
> They'd love you to give them your tele. number and/or link with a smart
> phone.
>
If they'd volunteer to pay for the data plan, I'd take care of the
rest. As it is, I'm not switching cell phone providers and I'm not
upgrading to a smartphone anytime in the near future.

> It gets tiresome, imo.

I could feed parking meters with a smart phone too.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:26:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/24/2013 2:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:48:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Agree with you there. TJ's is a market but by no means a supermarket. And
> >> Coctco has a limited amount of things. I can not do a full on grocery shop
> >> there because there are just too many things they don't carry.
> >
> > I don't know why anyone would consider them full service grocery
> > stores. TJ's is being ruined by that attitude. I liked their
> > quirkiness and one time only products of the past. I used to go to
> > TJ's first, impulse shop to my heart's content and then go to the
> > supermarket and buy everything else that I needed on my list. Costco
> > is the same way. I don't want a restaurant sized package of
> > everything on my list, so I buy certain things that I hate buying very
> > often (like toilet paper, kleenex and toothpaste) or something I'll
> > use quickly, like meat that's a notch in quality above what the
> > grocery store sells at the same price per pound.
> >
>
> Do yours have remarkably tight aisles?
>
> You can never turn back in a TJs...

It depends on which store it is. The one nearest to my house, fits
your description - others have more space.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:24:22 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> Trader Joe's is good for dairy products and arugula -- no telling how fresh the plastic wrapped produce is.

I haven't had trouble with produce in the refrigerated section - but
I'd rather not buy vegetables that have been shrink wrapped, so I
don't buy much from them. I do like their bagged salad mixes though.
They are less expensive than Safeway and I like their choices.
Nothing that goes by the name of Kroger or Raley's on this side of the
Bay, just subsidiaries. Lunardies isn't convenient enough to get to
know well. I go maybe twice a year, just to look around and see if
they have anything I want but can't find elsewhere. So far, I can
find everything I want that's Italian between Zanatto's in San Jose
and Lucca in San Francisco. One is close to home and the other is
close to a kid's house.

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On 7/24/2013 5:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:24:47 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2013 2:03 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:33 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/24/2013 11:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:57:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg
>>>>>
>>>>> I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supermarket rankings are
>>>>> completely useless unless each survey participant has a chance to shop
>>>>> at each store being ranked. Since each participant has only shopped
>>>>> at an average of 15-20% of the stores on the list due to the regional
>>>>> nature of most supermarkets, the results are useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'd argue that Trader Joes is not even a supermarket. And CostCo
>>>>> would be borderline as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Much agreement on those points! Safeway is the most numerous where I
>>> live (12 within a 5 mile radius). Is it the most numerous because
>>> people love it or has the chain decided we have money and they want
>>> it? I dunno. I can only say that their multi-level pricing practices
>>> suck. I have absolutely no idea what I thought I was going to pay and
>>> what I ended up paying unless I go back and recheck all the individual
>>> shelf prices and all I want to do is get out of the store.
>>>
>>> Safeway was last to the gas discount game and I still haven't figured
>>> out how to use those gas points. I use my club card, but I'd like to
>>> be able to use "numbers" in case I don't have the card on me. What
>>> numbers do I use: the club card number or my telephone number? Hubby
>>> tried numbers once and whatever it was he tried was rejected. He
>>> didn't want to spend any time fiddling around for only 20¢ a gallon,
>>> so he brings my club card with him now when he intends to fill up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> They'd love you to give them your tele. number and/or link with a smart
>> phone.
>>
> If they'd volunteer to pay for the data plan, I'd take care of the
> rest. As it is, I'm not switching cell phone providers and I'm not
> upgrading to a smartphone anytime in the near future.

Good for you, darned things are a bother.

>
>> It gets tiresome, imo.
>
> I could feed parking meters with a smart phone too.
>

I've seen that, what next?

On 7/24/2013 5:05 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:26:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2013 2:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:48:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree with you there. TJ's is a market but by no means a supermarket. And
>>>> Coctco has a limited amount of things. I can not do a full on grocery shop
>>>> there because there are just too many things they don't carry.
>>>
>>> I don't know why anyone would consider them full service grocery
>>> stores. TJ's is being ruined by that attitude. I liked their
>>> quirkiness and one time only products of the past. I used to go to
>>> TJ's first, impulse shop to my heart's content and then go to the
>>> supermarket and buy everything else that I needed on my list. Costco
>>> is the same way. I don't want a restaurant sized package of
>>> everything on my list, so I buy certain things that I hate buying very
>>> often (like toilet paper, kleenex and toothpaste) or something I'll
>>> use quickly, like meat that's a notch in quality above what the
>>> grocery store sells at the same price per pound.
>>>
>>
>> Do yours have remarkably tight aisles?
>>
>> You can never turn back in a TJs...
>
> It depends on which store it is. The one nearest to my house, fits
> your description - others have more space.
>

Always an experience. I have learned to go slowly, stop, grab, scan,
proceed.

Still, a fun place regardless.

"Laughing Cow" is a loss leader at one of the big 3 chains around here, and on sale 2 for 5 sometimes. At my usual market tho, it's 3.99 a pack, so I wait til they have the sale at the other and then load up. It takes up little space and lasts forever.

My market FINALLY discovered, I think, that they had the di Cecco priced way too high. They dropped it a buck a package and it's moving at last. Wish they'd do likewise with LC.

They have great closeout tables - I picked up almond extract for 50% off. Love it when they discontinue a high priced line or item. They marked all their Alba Botanica line 50% off and it flew out the door.

On 7/24/2013 5:24 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> "Laughing Cow" is a loss leader at one of the big 3 chains around here, and on sale 2 for 5 sometimes. At my usual market tho, it's 3.99 a pack, so I wait til they have the sale at the other and then load up. It takes up little space and lasts forever.
>
> My market FINALLY discovered, I think, that they had the di Cecco priced way too high. They dropped it a buck a package and it's moving at last. Wish they'd do likewise with LC.
>
> They have great closeout tables - I picked up almond extract for 50% off. Love it when they discontinue a high priced line or item. They marked all their Alba Botanica line 50% off and it flew out the door.
>

Love Di Cecco, especially their orichetti.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:35:59 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/24/2013 3:24 PM, wrote:
>
> > Safeway sucks, and Kroger doesn't exist in much of the West, other than Food 4 Less and Quik Stop, neither of which can be anyone's favorite.
>
> You're wrong there.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger
>
He probably should have said "West Coast" because most of the places
named above are East to us. In any case, when we say Kroger, we're
talking about KROGER - not some cheap subsidiary. I, personally,
won't step foot in Food 4 Less or Foods Co... and from what I've read
here - I wouldn't like Fred Meyer either. Quick Stop is a 7-11 type
convenience store. Are you kidding??? If I had to judge real Kroger
grocery stores by all the cheap sh*t stores listed under the Kroger
corporate umbrella in that wiki article, I'd gag and run to throw up.

> Baker's Supermarkets (Omaha, Nebraska)
> City Market (Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico)
> Dillons Food Stores (Kansas, Missouri)
> Fry's Food & Drug (Arizona)
> King Soopers (Colorado, Wyoming)
> Kroger Texas
> Ralphs (Southern California)
> Smith's (Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming)
> Fred Meyer (Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington)
> Food 4 Less (Southern California; Las Vegas, Nevada;
> Foods Co. (Northern California)
> Kwik Shop (Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Tennessee, Mississippi)
> Loaf 'N Jug (Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wyoming)
> Quik Stop (California, Nevada)
> Smith's Express (Utah)


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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:53:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> I think the produce at the Costco where I live is really nice.

I like the produce at mine too... but it's packaged in such large
amounts, there's no way I can use it all before it rots so it's not
cost effective AFAIC.

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On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:20:21 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 7/24/2013 5:02 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > I could feed parking meters with a smart phone too.
> >
>
> I've seen that, what next?

I've seen a few things that look interesting, like the web site that
tells you, based on user input, where the least expensive gas is in
your area. I also liked the idea of the app (which was discussed in
your absence) that can give you nutritional values and better
alternatives, if necessary, just by scanning in the bar code. It all
seems fun, but after the fun wears off - how much would I really use
them?

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spamtrap wrote:
>
> Trader Joe's is good for dairy products and arugula --

WTF does breast milk have to do with bitter herbs... mayhaps Trader
Joe is a sour faggot.

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:28:16 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:

> Love Di Cecco, especially their orichetti.

Yeah - those little ears hold the sauce nicely, yet are more easily handled by fork, as pasta types go. Right now, tho, I just keep linguine, vermicelli, ziti and penne on hand. Not crazy about the twists or angel hair.

Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> http://www.today.com/money/americas-...ate-6C10726884
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/mjcwlmg


As a kid, my parents would shop at their favorite private grocery. I swear,
some parts of the store had a dirt floor.

Then growing up, there was Kroger next to A&P. Kroger left town.

Now I heard there is a TJ in town, but too far away.

I mostly go to Giant Eagle, which has great check outs in my store, never
have to wait. Then I got, Shop n Save, Foodland, Bottom Dollar, Aldi,
Sav-a-lot, and a small IGA.

Greg

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:43:23 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:28:16 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>
> > Love Di Cecco, especially their orichetti.
>
> Yeah - those little ears hold the sauce nicely, yet are more easily handled by fork, as pasta types go.
> Right now, tho, I just keep linguine, vermicelli, ziti and penne on hand.

I haven't found a good use for orecchiette yet. When it comes to
handling sauce with a fork, I prefer the various forms of penne.
>
> Not crazy about the twists or angel hair.

I bought a twistie noodle (Barilla brand) called cellantini that I
plan to use in macaroni and cheese sometime in the future.
<http://www.homemademacaroni.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cellantini.jpgthat>

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:20:01 +0000 (UTC), gregz >
wrote:

> Now I heard there is a TJ in town, but too far away.

I can relate! Lucky me has several Tj's in town (only 49 square
miles) and one is within walking distance. The other side of town
doesn't exist for me. There's another TJ near me which is just
outside city limits (I'm near the boarder) and that's the other one
I'm most likely to shop in.

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sf wrote:

> I bought a twistie noodle (Barilla brand) called cellantini that I
> plan to use in macaroni and cheese sometime in the future.
> http://www.homemademacaroni.com/wp-c...antini.jpgthat

Looks like they mispelled cellentani
http://it-pic2.ciao.com/it/27779939.jpg
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