In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
> Subject: granite experiment
> From: Brooklyn1 >
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:39:23 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, gravesend10
> says...
> >> in rural areas many still maintain a family
> >> plot on their own property... most folks here bury their pets in a
> >> marked grave on their property, or some farmer will, been doing that
> >> for hundreds of years. I have several marked graves for pets on my
> >> property, three I buried myself for neighbors, I'm sure there are many
> >> I haven't discovered yet.
> >
> > When we sold our last place we inserted an abiding instruction into
> >the legal missives, marking our dogs graveyard so that subsequent owners
> >could leave it undisturbed. And, we buried the dogs deep.
> >
> > In the 20 years we lived there, when planting trees I had twice dug up
> >dog skeletons buried close to the surface. One turned out to be only
> >about 10 years old ( neighbours pet buried when the land belonged to
> >him) but the other was something huge like a Great Dane; it had not
> >belonged to the previous two occupants before us; so it must have been
> >there at least 50 years.
> >
> > All our dead cats have been buried with a rose planted on top.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
>
> Digging up a large skeleton is probably wild life,

Nope; it was the skull I dug up and undeniably canine. No wild dogs or
wolves here.

the skeleton you found could have been a goat, sheep
> or pig, could even be a fawn.

All skulls I'm familiar with; their jaws and teeth are nothing like a
dog jaw and teeth.

Janet UK

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
My impression of granite is that it's cold, dark, and somber looking and
usually not colors I like in a kitchen. I know it's the 'thing' to have now
and all the trend followers want it, regardless of price. I guess it's akin
to designer bags. I understand that it takes a special cleaner or polisher
or sumthin.

Granite is fine - in the cemetery. Sour grapes, if you like, but gimme my
Formica which I can't seem to damage nohow. There IS one lighter streak on
the counter - some food item must have bleaching capabilities but I can't
determine what food that might be.

=========

Me too, I love Formica counters.

Cheri

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:54:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote:
> > > It's such a beautiful clearing in the forest. I'd love to be buried
> > > there too, right next to my girls. :-D
> >
> > After you are gone could you not be cremated and have your ashes scattered
> > in that spot?
>
> That is my wish and daughter knows it. She also knows how to find the
> place. She went with me the first time. :-D
>
Best to refresh her memory, but of course you won't know if she goes
to the wrong place or not after you're dead.


--
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On 8/17/2013 2:48 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:54:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> It's such a beautiful clearing in the forest. I'd love to be buried
>>>> there too, right next to my girls. :-D
>>>
>>> After you are gone could you not be cremated and have your ashes scattered
>>> in that spot?
>>
>> That is my wish and daughter knows it. She also knows how to find the
>> place. She went with me the first time. :-D
>>
> Best to refresh her memory, but of course you won't know if she goes
> to the wrong place or not after you're dead.
>
>
Put it in writing! In this case, with a map.

Jill

In article <2013081616440689907-xxx@yyyzzz>, says...
>
> On 2013-08-16 22:59:15 +0000, T said:
>
> > Here's how I look at it. First of all there's the real estate issue.
> > Then I think about the stone and I remember that since the late 1960's
> > EVERY single death in at least the United States is recorded and in a
> > database for perpetuity.
>
> Not that I care either way, but don't you think a block of grante might
> last longer than a "perpetual database". Having been a database jockey
> for 20+ years, I can assure you that they don't last forever, even if
> they are federal.
>
> > So if they want to grieve they can simply look it up online.
>
> Online might not last even as long as that.
>
> I saw a movie the other day, Wim Wenders, Room 666. It's interviews
> with filmmakers in the early 80's. They are talking about the future,
> and they assume that film will one day die and be replaced by
> video-tape, magnetic media, to store the archives of man's brief spate
> with silver nitrate and it's cousins.
>
> One guy mentioned how he had recorded 300+ movies, eternal filmic
> artifacts, for his library. VHS. This, so it would last till the end of
> time, or at least 12-15 years, whichever comes first.
>
>

Having worked in state government I can tell you we did transition our
databases to newer hardware, software all the time. So don't count on
that.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:12:42 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article <2013081616440689907-xxx@yyyzzz>, says...
> >>
> >> On 2013-08-16 22:59:15 +0000, T said:
> >>
> >> > Here's how I look at it. First of all there's the real estate issue.
> >> > Then I think about the stone and I remember that since the late 1960's
> >> > EVERY single death in at least the United States is recorded and in a
> >> > database for perpetuity.
> >>
> >> Not that I care either way, but don't you think a block of grante might
> >> last longer than a "perpetual database". Having been a database jockey
> >> for 20+ years, I can assure you that they don't last forever, even if
> >> they are federal.
> >
> > Neither do blocks of granite. In a wet windy climate, engraved
> >memorial identifications erode faster than you might think. There are
> >graveyards locally with granite headstones hundreds of years old, but
> >after the first century the older names get very hard to read and
> >eventually it's just a chunk of stone marking the spot. Wealthier
> >families sometimes get the earlier, near illegible names on their
> >family stones re-engraved when the new ones are added.
> >
> > Some time in the overcrowded-planet's future I reckon most records
> >and graves will just be a hologram. You'll be able to summon up the
> >hologram records and a hologram of your family gravestone.. before it
> >was recycled to build the underground shelters.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> That was long ago. Nowadays grave markers are engraved far deeper so
> will be legible for many hundreds of years. But it matters not, after
> a few hundred years no one will be around who cares about ordinary
> folks. Marked graves are really for those who are young enough to
> remember the departed.

Of course they are. But birth and death records are still useful to some
for genealogic research.

In article > ,
Janet > wrote:
>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> In article >,
>> sf > wrote:
>> >On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:52:10 GMT, (Cindy Hamilton)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> My grandparents are in cardboard boxes in my mother's linen closet.
>> >> Once Mom is gone, my grandparents are going in the dumpster.
>> >
>> >That's harsh! Why not just plant everyone in the garden? My
>> >grandmother was under a rose bush.
>>
>> I don't get it. It's a box full of phosphorus and calcium. Why
>> not dumpster it?
>
> Because it's really good fertiliser, don't waste it! Scatter it
>round a tree or rose or clematis so their last remains return to the
>earth, life and beauty.

Fair enough. My tomatoes sometimes have trouble with blossom-end
rot. They could use the calcium.

Cindy Hamilton
--

On 8/16/2013 8:42 PM, George Leppla wrote:

>> Why the biodegradable container. Do they just throw the urn overboard?
>
>
> Yes. Usually done while the ship is in international waters, from the
> stern on one of the lowest decks that has an open access to the sea. The
> container (and usually some flowers) are thrown into the sea.
>
> There are companies that make urns specifically for burial at sea:
>
> http://www.seaurn.com/
>
> http://www.passagesinternational.com...rns/water-urns
>
> George L

Save your money, I will be happy in a paper bag or a cardboard box from
Whataburger. They are biodegradable.

Becca

On 8/19/2013 3:20 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

> Save your money, I will be happy in a paper bag or a cardboard box from
> Whataburger. They are biodegradable.
>
> Becca
>


You want fries with that?

George L