"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/13/2013 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> This might be of interest. I just got the Coopers catalogue in and they
>> have an 'induction hob converter' which, apparently, allows you to use
>> any pan on your hob!
>>
>> http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...find=Induction hob
>> converter
>>
> It _sounds_ like a good idea, but I've heard a few bad reports on those -
> overheating of the glass/ceramic surface, and poor heat transfer to the
> pan.

ahh. Has any tried this one? Cooper's stuff i usually very good.

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On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:27:55 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 8/12/2013 4:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > I don't mind ordering from US. That is where my herb ball and last
> > probe thermo came from Could you give me a US link, please?
>
> You'll need a decent transformer - the voltage is different.
>
> <http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=41482537>
>
> (I paid 20% less than that.)

If you sign up for coupons via email, sometimes they send a 20% off
coupon to use for online shopping. Then, if you shop online at BB&B
through
https://www.discover.com/credit-card...pdiscover.html
you can get an additional 5% cash back (it also applies to sale
items).

I've been looking at what they say about induction burners online and
one made the claim "boils water in 90 seconds" but neglected to say
how much water they were talking about. So, to me, it's a misleading
ad if they are only talking about one cup of water.


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On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:

> I've been looking at what they say about induction burners online and
> one made the claim "boils water in 90 seconds" but neglected to say
> how much water they were talking about. So, to me, it's a misleading
> ad if they are only talking about one cup of water.
>
Not only do they not say how much water, they don't mention the starting
temperature.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:42:54 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/12/2013 8:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2013 2:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> >>> On 8/12/2013 7:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>> You could try Amazon. There's no pan included though. I don't know if
> >>>> it
> >>>> would work with your 220V electricity. The US uses 120V and the maximum
> >>>> power you can get is 1800 watts. Does this mean that you can get 3600
> >>>> watts with plugin hotplates in the UK? I don't know but that would be
> >>>> cool.
> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/1800-Watt-Port...dp/B0045QEPYM/
> >>>>
> >>> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
> >>> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.

I can't imagine wanting or needing heat any lower than 150°F. Not
sure how hot 450° is (I don't have an infrared thermometer to check
surface temperatures on my stove).
> >>
> >> You're the expert on this thing. The included pan is a bonus and I like
> >> the round design better than the square one.
> >
> > I like the round design too. I didn't expect the 'bonus' pan to be much
> > good, but was very pleasantly surprised! I don't know how well the hob and
> > pan will last, but so far, I'm pleased with my purchase.
> >
> > The highest wattage I've seen for a single induction hob in the UK, is
> > 2000. I noticed a double at 2800w on Amazon.co.uk.

I wonder why induction units in the USA don't get that hot? I found a
double burner unit that claimed to be 2800w, but in reality - it
wasn't. Given a quick search, 1800 watts was the best I could find.
According to another thread - our electric tea kettles don't have much
power either, which is probably a large part of the reason why they
aren't very popular over here.

When the induction unit manufacturer make the claim "boils water in 90
seconds"... how much water are they talking about - 8oz?
>
> This might be of interest. I just got the Coopers catalogue in and they
> have an 'induction hob converter' which, apparently, allows you to use any
> pan on your hob!
>
> http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...find=Induction hob converter
>
> -
What will they think of next? I had no idea anything like that
converter existed. Not that I have an induction hot plate (or even a
hot plate), but it's nice to know about these things "just in case".
I see BB&B has a single induction hot plate + the converter for
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...p?SKU=18089718

I was looking at the internet and saw some very weird marketing. A
double burner unit is more expensive than buying two singles (same
brand) and buying a single unit and a converter in a set is more
expensive than buying them individually (same brand again). What's up
with that?

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On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:28:00 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > I've been looking at what they say about induction burners online and
> > one made the claim "boils water in 90 seconds" but neglected to say
> > how much water they were talking about. So, to me, it's a misleading
> > ad if they are only talking about one cup of water.
> >
> Not only do they not say how much water, they don't mention the starting
> temperature.
>
As an American, I assume they crank it up all the way and let'er
rip... because we're a zero to 60 kind of culture.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...

> What will they think of next? I had no idea anything like that
> converter existed. Not that I have an induction hot plate (or even a
> hot plate), but it's nice to know about these things "just in case".
> I see BB&B has a single induction hot plate + the converter for
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...p?SKU=18089718

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy"


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On 8/12/13 8:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/12/2013 7:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/1800-Watt-Port...dp/B0045QEPYM/
>>
>>
> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.


Why would you need to go below 140 or above 460 F?

BTW, you can buy 220v induction hobs in the US.

-- Larry

On 8/10/13 3:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I guess you don't watch those home buying shows. They sure do buy or not
> buy based on the stove!

Absolutely true.

We're selling our VA home this month, and had a prospective buyer who
loved the house, but decided against buying it specifically because we
didn't have gas -- he's a chef, and that's what he's used to.

OTOH, when we bought our new home in Florida a few months ago, we turned
down a house we loved because it's in a "green" subdivision that
requires all homes to have natural gas major appliances. Even as a
semi-custom home, they could not allow us to specify an induction
cooktop and electric oven, or even to leave out those items altogether,
and we'd install them ourselves later.

We bought in another subdivision three miles away...

-- Larry

On 8/13/13 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> This might be of interest. I just got the Coopers catalogue in and they
> have an 'induction hob converter' which, apparently, allows you to use
> any pan on your hob!
>
> http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...find=Induction hob converter

Those things are good only for very, very low heat tasks. They basically
"convert" your induction hob into an ordinary electric element.

They defeat the entire purpose of induction cooking, and are extremely
inefficient.

I had one once, that came with a Wolfgang Puck hob I bought -- the hob
was fine, but the "adapter" was worthless, unless you wanted to use your
induction hob as a warming plate for non-induction cookware.

-- Larry

On 8/13/2013 1:32 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 8/12/13 8:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
>> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.
>
>
> Why would you need to go below 140 or above 460 F?
>
Making yoghurt. Quick searing.

> BTW, you can buy 220v induction hobs in the US.
>
> -- Larry
>

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:39:50 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

> On 8/13/13 9:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > This might be of interest. I just got the Coopers catalogue in and they
> > have an 'induction hob converter' which, apparently, allows you to use
> > any pan on your hob!
> >
> > http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...find=Induction hob converter
>
> Those things are good only for very, very low heat tasks. They basically
> "convert" your induction hob into an ordinary electric element.
>
> They defeat the entire purpose of induction cooking, and are extremely
> inefficient.
>
> I had one once, that came with a Wolfgang Puck hob I bought -- the hob
> was fine, but the "adapter" was worthless, unless you wanted to use your
> induction hob as a warming plate for non-induction cookware.
>
So what works on an induction unit? Would stainless steel work or do
I use my cast iron? I have enough of both. How about glass? I even
have a glass double boiler stored somewhere in the basement.

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On 8/13/2013 3:44 PM, sf wrote:

> So what works on an induction unit? Would stainless steel work or do
> I use my cast iron? I have enough of both. How about glass? I even
> have a glass double boiler stored somewhere in the basement.
>
If a magnet won't stick to it, it won't work. Only one of my stainless
pans works. My Fagor pressure cooker works, as does my emergency
stovetop kettle. Enameled steel and cast iron will work, glass will not.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:02:35 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 8/13/2013 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > So what works on an induction unit? Would stainless steel work or do
> > I use my cast iron? I have enough of both. How about glass? I even
> > have a glass double boiler stored somewhere in the basement.
> >
> If a magnet won't stick to it, it won't work. Only one of my stainless
> pans works. My Fagor pressure cooker works, as does my emergency
> stovetop kettle. Enameled steel and cast iron will work, glass will not.

Thanks.

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On 8/13/2013 3:17 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/12/2013 8:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/12/2013 2:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2013 7:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> You could try Amazon. There's no pan included though. I don't know
>>>> if it
>>>> would work with your 220V electricity. The US uses 120V and the maximum
>>>> power you can get is 1800 watts. Does this mean that you can get 3600
>>>> watts with plugin hotplates in the UK? I don't know but that would be
>>>> cool.
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/1800-Watt-Port...dp/B0045QEPYM/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
>>> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.
>>
>> You're the expert on this thing. The included pan is a bonus and I like
>> the round design better than the square one.
>
> I like the round design too. I didn't expect the 'bonus' pan to be much
> good, but was very pleasantly surprised! I don't know how well the hob
> and pan will last, but so far, I'm pleased with my purchase.
>
> The highest wattage I've seen for a single induction hob in the UK, is
> 2000. I noticed a double at 2800w on Amazon.co.uk.
>

Thanks for the info. What is the wiring for the modern kitchen rated at
amperage-wise? Thanks.

The 2800W burner sounds like it might be two 1400W units.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:29:04 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> The 2800W burner sounds like it might be two 1400W units.

That's what I'd like to know also.

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In article >, lid
says...
>
> On 8/13/2013 3:17 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 8/12/2013 8:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2013 2:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> >>> On 8/12/2013 7:53 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>> You could try Amazon. There's no pan included though. I don't know
> >>>> if it
> >>>> would work with your 220V electricity. The US uses 120V and the maximum
> >>>> power you can get is 1800 watts. Does this mean that you can get 3600
> >>>> watts with plugin hotplates in the UK? I don't know but that would be
> >>>> cool.
> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/1800-Watt-Port...dp/B0045QEPYM/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
> >>> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.
> >>
> >> You're the expert on this thing. The included pan is a bonus and I like
> >> the round design better than the square one.
> >
> > I like the round design too. I didn't expect the 'bonus' pan to be much
> > good, but was very pleasantly surprised! I don't know how well the hob
> > and pan will last, but so far, I'm pleased with my purchase.
> >
> > The highest wattage I've seen for a single induction hob in the UK, is
> > 2000. I noticed a double at 2800w on Amazon.co.uk.
> >
>
> Thanks for the info. What is the wiring for the modern kitchen rated at
> amperage-wise? Thanks.

In the UK an electric stove always has a separate feed rated at 45
amps.
The rest of the kitchen is usually on a ringmain rated at 32 amps.

Janet UK

On 8/13/13 5:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Thanks for the info. What is the wiring for the modern kitchen rated at
> amperage-wise? Thanks.

Most US kitchens have 15 ampere circuits. Local voltages vary, from
roughly 115 vac to as high as 130. If your house offers the nominal 120
vac, at 15 amps, that's the rated 1800 watts.

-- Larry

On 8/13/13 2:17 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>>> That one has only 10 temperature settings, and a narrower range - it
>>> doesn't go down as low, or up as high as the one I bought.
>>
>>
>> Why would you need to go below 140 or above 460 F?
>>
> Making yoghurt. Quick searing.

There's nothing that says you have to use the temperature settings on
your hob. You can simply set it on the highest power setting, and it
will [eventually] heat an empty pan to near red hot; certainly higher
than 460 deg F, just as almost any electric smoothtop would.

-- Larry

On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:

> If you sign up for coupons via email, sometimes they send a 20% off
> coupon to use for online shopping. Then, if you shop online at BB&B
> through
> https://www.discover.com/credit-card...pdiscover.html
> you can get an additional 5% cash back (it also applies to sale
> items).

That's how I buy everything from BBB. I put most of my purchases, and
there are a LOT of dental ones, on my discover card. I end up with
hundreds of dollars worth of cash back bonuses and usually only use BBB
because I can cash in $20 for $25 gift card. It adds up. This time I
also got a few $25 gift cards from discover for The Container Store. My
order came today and I haven't opened it yet. I got some china storage
containers for my grandmother's china which is very very old. I'm
almost afraid to use it, but I needed storage.

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On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:48:41 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > If you sign up for coupons via email, sometimes they send a 20% off
> > coupon to use for online shopping. Then, if you shop online at BB&B
> > through
> > https://www.discover.com/credit-card...pdiscover.html
> > you can get an additional 5% cash back (it also applies to sale
> > items).
>
> That's how I buy everything from BBB. I put most of my purchases, and
> there are a LOT of dental ones, on my discover card. I end up with
> hundreds of dollars worth of cash back bonuses and usually only use BBB
> because I can cash in $20 for $25 gift card. It adds up. This time I
> also got a few $25 gift cards from discover for The Container Store. My
> order came today and I haven't opened it yet. I got some china storage
> containers for my grandmother's china which is very very old. I'm
> almost afraid to use it, but I needed storage.

You turn your points into gift cards? Why? I'd rather have the cash.

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On 8/13/2013 11:42 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:48:41 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> If you sign up for coupons via email, sometimes they send a 20% off
>>> coupon to use for online shopping. Then, if you shop online at BB&B
>>> through
>>> https://www.discover.com/credit-card...pdiscover.html
>>> you can get an additional 5% cash back (it also applies to sale
>>> items).
>>
>> That's how I buy everything from BBB. I put most of my purchases, and
>> there are a LOT of dental ones, on my discover card. I end up with
>> hundreds of dollars worth of cash back bonuses and usually only use BBB
>> because I can cash in $20 for $25 gift card. It adds up. This time I
>> also got a few $25 gift cards from discover for The Container Store. My
>> order came today and I haven't opened it yet. I got some china storage
>> containers for my grandmother's china which is very very old. I'm
>> almost afraid to use it, but I needed storage.
>
> You turn your points into gift cards? Why? I'd rather have the cash.
>
I can turn $20 worth of points into a $25 gift card, so it's worth more
to me than simply getting the cash.

On 8/14/2013 9:11 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> I can turn $20 worth of points into a $25 gift card, so it's worth more
> to me than simply getting the cash.

Hey, thanks for reminding me to sign up, I forget to do it every
quarter.

nancy

On 8/14/2013 9:11 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> On 8/13/2013 11:42 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:48:41 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/13/2013 11:36 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>
>> You turn your points into gift cards? Why? I'd rather have the cash.
>>
> I can turn $20 worth of points into a $25 gift card, so it's worth more
> to me than simply getting the cash.

Exactly. That's why I do it that way.

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On 8/11/2013 1:55 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:21:39 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/10/2013 10:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>> I don't see a major difference in the time it takes electric stove
>>> burners to heat up. We used to have an electric stove with solid
>>> burners. They took a long time to heat up, and they took a long time to
>>> cool off, so they were hard to control. They also didn't get really hot,
>>> so heating up a large pot of water took a long time, and jam making was
>>> a little tougher.
>>
>> Cooling off is a whole other story. Like Jill said, we just get
>> used to it.
>
> I certainly don't care how long it takes electric to cool off. If I
> want it to stop cooking immediately, I move it to another burner.
> It's not like gas is instant off either, because the grates are still
> hot after the flame is turned off the flame and it continues to bubble
> unless you move the pan.
>
A few days late I agree with this. I also have some very thick hot
pads and also a trivet I could set the pan on to remove it from the
heat. I'll have to take a picture of one of those hot pads. They were
a bridal shower gift to my mother in 1951. They're handmade and really
wonderful.

Jill

On 8/15/2013 8:31 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 1:55 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:21:39 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/10/2013 10:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I don't see a major difference in the time it takes electric stove
>>>> burners to heat up. We used to have an electric stove with solid
>>>> burners. They took a long time to heat up, and they took a long time to
>>>> cool off, so they were hard to control. They also didn't get really
>>>> hot,
>>>> so heating up a large pot of water took a long time, and jam making was
>>>> a little tougher.
>>>
>>> Cooling off is a whole other story. Like Jill said, we just get
>>> used to it.
>>
>> I certainly don't care how long it takes electric to cool off. If I
>> want it to stop cooking immediately, I move it to another burner.
>> It's not like gas is instant off either, because the grates are still
>> hot after the flame is turned off the flame and it continues to bubble
>> unless you move the pan.
>>
> A few days late I agree with this. I also have some very thick hot
> pads and also a trivet I could set the pan on to remove it from the
> heat. I'll have to take a picture of one of those hot pads. They were
> a bridal shower gift to my mother in 1951. They're handmade and really
> wonderful.
>
> Jill

That's what I mean by learning to adapt. I have a silicone trivet that
I put hot pans on when I want to move them off of the heat.

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