Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
coffee a while ago.

It's this model:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&

I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
customer reviews, but I took a chance.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water so
> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> coffee a while ago.
>
> It's this model:
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>
> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one and
> I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without customer
> reviews, but I took a chance.

Just like mine

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water so
> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> coffee a while ago.
>
> It's this model:
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>
> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one and
> I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without customer
> reviews, but I took a chance.

I love mine! I got it online at the military store some years ago. It was
on clearance.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water so
>> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> coffee a while ago.
>>
>> It's this model:
>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>
>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>
> I love mine! I got it online at the military store some years ago. It
> was on clearance.

It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something happens
to the electricity

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On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
> happens to the electricity

How does a gas kettle work?

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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:05:10 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
>> happens to the electricity
>
>How does a gas kettle work?

Directly on the gas stove cooktop, obviously.

On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
> happens to the electricity
>
Out power was out for nearly a week last year, so I dug out my ancient
non-electric kettle. It hadn't been used in years - what I didn't know,
was that it had been oxidising, and when I put it on the hob, a teensy
pinhole leak put out the gas...fortunately I noticed before anything
dreadful could happen.

We now have a new kettle for emergency use.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
>> happens to the electricity
>>
> Out power was out for nearly a week last year, so I dug out my ancient
> non-electric kettle. It hadn't been used in years - what I didn't know,
> was that it had been oxidising, and when I put it on the hob, a teensy
> pinhole leak put out the gas...fortunately I noticed before anything
> dreadful could happen.

Oh((( Dangerous!

> We now have a new kettle for emergency use.

Hmm I will get Himself to check ours out! Thanks!

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> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:02:11 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>>On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>>> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>>> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
>>> happens to the electricity
>>>
>>Out power was out for nearly a week last year, so I dug out my ancient
>>non-electric kettle. It hadn't been used in years - what I didn't know,
>>was that it had been oxidising, and when I put it on the hob, a teensy
>>pinhole leak put out the gas...fortunately I noticed before anything
>>dreadful could happen.
>>
>>We now have a new kettle for emergency use.
>
> I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
> Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
> days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
> infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
> breast feeding but I held my tongue

I never needed to hear a case! To me it was the natural, most nourishing
and safest way

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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:24:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:



>>
>> I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
>> Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
>> days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
>> infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
>> breast feeding but I held my tongue
>
> I never needed to hear a case! To me it was the natural, most nourishing
>and safest way
>
>--


Sure, tell that to adoptive parents. Maybe you can teach them.

On 8/10/2013 9:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote in message

>> I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
>> Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
>> days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
>> infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
>> breast feeding but I held my tongue
>
> I never needed to hear a case! To me it was the natural, most
> nourishing and safest way
>
I never even considered bottle feeding.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:24:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:02:11 -0400, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>>>> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>>>> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
>>>> happens to the electricity
>>>>
>>>Out power was out for nearly a week last year, so I dug out my ancient
>>>non-electric kettle. It hadn't been used in years - what I didn't know,
>>>was that it had been oxidising, and when I put it on the hob, a teensy
>>>pinhole leak put out the gas...fortunately I noticed before anything
>>>dreadful could happen.
>>>
>>>We now have a new kettle for emergency use.
>>
>> I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
>> Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
>> days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
>> infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
>> breast feeding but I held my tongue
>
> I never needed to hear a case! To me it was the natural, most nourishing
>and safest way

For me it was the lazy persons way, as well as all the good reasons!
Breast feed until they are old enough to have cow's milk without
sterilisng bottles.

Mind you, breast feeding can be very difficult at times and some women
can just not produce the amount, or any milk, but every day that you
can is of benefit to the child's immune system.

JB


JB

>
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> wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:24:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:02:11 -0400, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/10/2013 7:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>>>>> decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as
>>>>> something
>>>>> unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something
>>>>> happens to the electricity
>>>>>
>>>>Out power was out for nearly a week last year, so I dug out my ancient
>>>>non-electric kettle. It hadn't been used in years - what I didn't know,
>>>>was that it had been oxidising, and when I put it on the hob, a teensy
>>>>pinhole leak put out the gas...fortunately I noticed before anything
>>>>dreadful could happen.
>>>>
>>>>We now have a new kettle for emergency use.
>>>
>>> I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
>>> Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
>>> days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
>>> infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
>>> breast feeding but I held my tongue
>>
>> I never needed to hear a case! To me it was the natural, most
>>nourishing
>>and safest way
>>
>>--
> Me too, I bf all three, the price greatly appealed to my Scottish
> blood

Guid lassie, so did I mine and my daughter hers too)

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wrote:
>
>I have a small propane burner for power out times, ironically when
>Hurricane Juan visited and I lived out of town and lost power for ten
>days I had to part with it to a couple along the way with new born
>infant and no way to heat bottles. IMO that was a great case for
>breast feeding but I held my tongue

I'm holding my tongue too.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:44:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water so
>>> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>>> coffee a while ago.
>>>
>>> It's this model:
>>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>>
>>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>>
>> I love mine! I got it online at the military store some years ago. It
>> was on clearance.
>
>It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something happens
>to the electricity

I've used an electric kettle for several decades. The first one I had
was a heavy stainless steel one made in England, was fairly pricey,
can't remember the brand now, but it didn't last more than five years
before it burned out. Then I bought a BrAun, been working great for
like 30 years now... holds 7 cups... boils a full pot in a few
minutes, barely enough time to set out the cups and saucers. I no
longer have a stovetop kettle, but having a gas stove I can boil water
without electric so can use any pot... I bought a Farberware
percolator specifically so I can have coffee during a power outage,
works as a tea kettle too. I think the Farberware percolator makes
better coffee than my ADC and would use it all the time, but it's sort
of a pain to clean, and I have to be there to lower the heat when it
begins to perk so it doesn't boil over. But the Farberware percolater
makes great coffee with less grinds, fills the house with great aroma,
and looks sexy too... built to last, like the proverbial brick
house... and priced right:
http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...are+percolator

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:44:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> eb.com...
>>>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been
>>>> wanting
>>>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>>>> so
>>>> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>>>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>>>> coffee a while ago.
>>>>
>>>> It's this model:
>>>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>>>
>>>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>>>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>>>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>>>
>>> I love mine! I got it online at the military store some years ago. It
>>> was on clearance.
>>
>>It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>>decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>>unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something happens
>>to the electricity
>
> I've used an electric kettle for several decades. The first one I had
> was a heavy stainless steel one made in England, was fairly pricey,
> can't remember the brand now, but it didn't last more than five years
> before it burned out. Then I bought a BrAun, been working great for
> like 30 years now... holds 7 cups... boils a full pot in a few
> minutes, barely enough time to set out the cups and saucers. I no
> longer have a stovetop kettle, but having a gas stove I can boil water
> without electric so can use any pot... I bought a Farberware
> percolator specifically so I can have coffee during a power outage,
> works as a tea kettle too. I think the Farberware percolator makes
> better coffee than my ADC and would use it all the time, but it's sort
> of a pain to clean, and I have to be there to lower the heat when it
> begins to perk so it doesn't boil over. But the Farberware percolater
> makes great coffee with less grinds, fills the house with great aroma,
> and looks sexy too... built to last, like the proverbial brick
> house... and priced right:
> http://www.amazon.com/Farberware-Cla...are+percolator

This used to be my coffee pot but in recent years I have gone off strong
stuff and I use a filter now.

http://www.habitat.co.uk/moka-cup-co...FfMdtAodXU4AsQ
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> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:44:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> eb.com...
>>>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been
>>>> wanting
>>>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>>>> so
>>>> fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>>>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>>>> coffee a while ago.
>>>>
>>>> It's this model:
>>>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>>>
>>>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>>>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>>>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>>>
>>> I love mine! I got it online at the military store some years ago. It
>>> was on clearance.
>>
>>It sounds odd to me! Electric kettles have been ubiquitous here for
>>decades. It sounds very strange to hear them talked about as something
>>unusual. We do have a gas kettle but it is only used if something happens
>>to the electricity
>>
>>--
> I am wary of customer reviews - I go to a place nearby with the awful
> name of Princess Nails. They were probably originally Vietnamese
> boat people. They are kindness incorporated and do a wonderful job,
> I have recommended them many times and never heard from anyone they
> were less than pleased with the results.
>
> If you look online, it's all bad reviews. All talk about if you go
> here they don't clean the gear and you'll wind up with nail fungus and
> the people are rude and the whole place is dirty. None of this is
> true, the place is spotlessly clean. I have decided that since their
> prices are about half what the fancy salons charge, THAT is where the
> online comments come from !

Sounds like!!!

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On 2013-08-10, > wrote:

> I am wary of customer reviews - I go to a place nearby with the awful
> name of Princess Nails. They were probably originally Vietnamese
> boat people. They are kindness incorporated and do a wonderful job,
> I have recommended them many times and never heard from anyone they
> were less than pleased with the results.
>
> If you look online, it's all bad reviews. All talk about if you go
> here they don't clean the gear and you'll wind up with nail fungus and
> the people are rude and the whole place is dirty. None of this is
> true, the place is spotlessly clean. I have decided that since their
> prices are about half what the fancy salons charge, THAT is where the
> online comments come from !

There can be no doubt there are review trolls. Ppl with a grudge or
nothing better to do than skew review polls to the negative. OTOH,
while I'm sure many Viet nail salons are jes fine, there are also many with
serious problems. The number of fungus outbreaks at Viet nail salons
reached almost epidemic proportions in CA. If I recall, ppl actually
died from flesh eating bacteria, in some cases. Still, gotta take
into acct the press being less than honest.

nb

On 8/10/2013 9:30 AM, notbob wrote:


> There can be no doubt there are review trolls. Ppl with a grudge or
> nothing better to do than skew review polls to the negative. OTOH,
> while I'm sure many Viet nail salons are jes fine, there are also many with
> serious problems. The number of fungus outbreaks at Viet nail salons
> reached almost epidemic proportions in CA. If I recall, ppl actually
> died from flesh eating bacteria, in some cases. Still, gotta take
> into acct the press being less than honest.
>
> nb
>
There are many sites that have what they flag as "authenticated buyer"
and I guess the competition could buy something to be flagged that way,
but you're supposed to look for that flag to make sure the reviewer
actually bought the product.


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In article om>,
says...
>
> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> coffee a while ago.
>
> It's this model:
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>
> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> customer reviews, but I took a chance.

Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

Yellow wrote:
>
> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

I just boil some water in a small saucepan for tea and the occasional
instant coffee. A kettle is nicer but not a necessary utensil for me.

G.

On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:

> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>

I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.

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On 8/10/2013 8:04 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
>
>> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>>
>
> I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
> started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
> one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
> will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.
>
I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
quick meal.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/10/2013 8:04 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> > On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
> >
> >> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> >>
> >
> > I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
> > started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
> > one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
> > will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.
> >
> I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
> quick meal.

.. and when filling a pan to boil potatoes.

I never, ever make tea in a mug; always in a pot.

Janet UK

On 8/10/2013 9:13 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>> I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
>> quick meal.
>
> .. and when filling a pan to boil potatoes.
>
> I never, ever make tea in a mug; always in a pot.
>
Me, too. In a pre-warmed pot, with boiling water.

On 8/10/2013 9:04 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> On 8/10/2013 8:04 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
>>
>>> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>>>
>>
>> I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
>> started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
>> one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
>> will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.
>>
> I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
> quick meal.

That's a great idea, too.

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Yellow wrote:
>
> In article om>,
> says...
> >
> > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > coffee a while ago.
> >
> > It's this model:
> > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> >
> > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>
> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
(hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.

In article >,
says...
>
> Yellow wrote:
> >
> > In article om>,
> > says...
> > >
> > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > coffee a while ago.
> > >
> > > It's this model:
> > > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > >
> > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> >
> > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>
> Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.

I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

Yellow wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > Yellow wrote:
> > >
> > > In article om>,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > >
> > > > It's this model:
> > > > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > >
> > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > >
> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> >
> > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
>
> I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.

I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
for larger appliances.

> It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
it with about 30 minutes of work.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:38:57 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Yellow wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > Yellow wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article om>,
>> > > says...
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> > > > coffee a while ago.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's this model:
>> > > > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>> > > >
>> > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>> > >
>> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>> >
>> > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
>> > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
>> > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
>> > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
>> > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
>>
>> I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.
>
>I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
>have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
>purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
>for larger appliances.
>
>> It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
>> every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
>
>Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
>it with about 30 minutes of work.

In the US service voltage from the street is 240V, upon entering the
home voltage is split so that most circuits are 120V. 120V is far
safer. In the UK folks are more frugal and wiring the entire
residence for 240V costs less, but not very safe. It's more efficient
to transport electric at higher voltages so that's what's used outside
by the utility companys... much of the high tension wires are at 440V,
and even higher over longer distances, then stepped down at the
service with transformers. Where I live houses are a good distance
apart so every residence has its own step down transformer.

In article >,
says...
>
> Yellow wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > Yellow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article om>,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's this model:
> > > > > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > > >
> > > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> > >
> > > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
> >
> > I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.
>
> I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
> have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
> purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
> for larger appliances.
>
> > It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> > every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
>
> Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
> it with about 30 minutes of work.

You sound defensive.

wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:40:12 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
> >
> >I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
> >makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> >every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
>
> Why ? Mine here does everything the one my friend in the UK does.

Available Wattage. UK has 16A 240V as their general purpose circuits.
The US has 15A or 20A 120V as general purpose circuits. More Wattage =
more power available for faster heating, though efficiency remains the
same. What the folks in the UK don't seem to understand is that we have
plenty of 240V circuits in the US as well, just not as our general
purpose ones.

15A @ 120V = 1,800W
20A @ 120V = 2,400W
16A @ 240V = 3,840W

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:09:35 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:40:12 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
>>
>>I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
>>makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
>>every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
>
>Why ? Mine here does everything the one my friend in the UK does.

Available voltage has little to do with a kettle's efficiency

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:09:35 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:40:12 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
> >>
> >>I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
> >>makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> >>every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
> >
> >Why ? Mine here does everything the one my friend in the UK does.
>
> Available voltage has little to do with a kettle's efficiency

But it has everything to do with power. As you only have half the
voltage you would need double the current for a kettle to heat the same
number of kilowatts - and that leads you down the path towards wiring
the size of elephant trunks.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:40:12 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
> >
> >I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
> >makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> >every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
>
> Why ? Mine here does everything the one my friend in the UK does.

It will boil water, but it will take significantly longer to do so
because at the same current you will only have half the power.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:

>In article om>,
says...
>>
>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> coffee a while ago.
>>
>> It's this model:
>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>
>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>
>Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
tin can.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
>
> >In article om>,
> says...
> >>
> >> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> >> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> >> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> >> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> >> coffee a while ago.
> >>
> >> It's this model:
> >> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> >>
> >> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> >> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> >> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> >
> >Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>
> Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
> tin can.

Do you prefer your tin can over an open fire or do you use an indoor
candle?

On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:16:42 +0100, Yellow > wrote:

>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
>>
>> >In article om>,
>> says...
>> >>
>> >> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> >> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> >> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> >> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> >> coffee a while ago.
>> >>
>> >> It's this model:
>> >> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>> >>
>> >> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> >> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> >> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>> >
>> >Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>>
>> Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
>> tin can.
>
>Do you prefer your tin can over an open fire or do you use an indoor
>candle?

Um, a candle produces an open fire.

On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

A kettle is not required to boil water.

Jill

In article >, says...
>
> On 10-Aug-2013, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> >
> > A kettle is not required to boil water.
> >
> > Jill
>
> And - tea is not required to sustain life, or even to enjoy life.

oh yes it is :-)

Janet UK