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In article om>,
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> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> coffee a while ago.
>
> It's this model:
>
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>
> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> customer reviews, but I took a chance.


Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
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> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?


I just boil some water in a small saucepan for tea and the occasional
instant coffee. A kettle is nicer but not a necessary utensil for me.

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On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:

> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>


I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.

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On 8/10/2013 8:04 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
>
>> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>>

>
> I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
> started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
> one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
> will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.
>

I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
quick meal.
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On 8/10/2013 9:04 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> On 8/10/2013 8:04 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
>>
>>> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>>>

>>
>> I know it's a necessary appliance in places other than the US. I only
>> started hearing about them from Usenet. I've never known anyone who has
>> one. Mostly I'd just heat a mug of water in the microwave, but this
>> will heat a whole pot in the same amount of time.
>>

> I also use mine to get pasta water boiling faster, when I need to make a
> quick meal.


That's a great idea, too.

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Yellow wrote:
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> In article om>,
> says...
> >
> > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > coffee a while ago.
> >
> > It's this model:
> >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> >
> > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > customer reviews, but I took a chance.

>
> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?


Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
(hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
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In article >,
says...
>
> Yellow wrote:
> >
> > In article om>,
> >
says...
> > >
> > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > coffee a while ago.
> > >
> > > It's this model:
> > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > >
> > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.

> >
> > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

>
> Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.


I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V. It
makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

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Yellow wrote:
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> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > Yellow wrote:
> > >
> > > In article om>,
> > >
says...
> > > >
> > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > >
> > > > It's this model:
> > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > >
> > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > >
> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

> >
> > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.

>
> I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.


I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
for larger appliances.

> It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.


Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
it with about 30 minutes of work.


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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:38:57 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Yellow wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > Yellow wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article om>,
>> > >
says...
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> > > > coffee a while ago.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's this model:
>> > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>> > > >
>> > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>> > >
>> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
>> >
>> > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
>> > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
>> > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
>> > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
>> > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.

>>
>> I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.

>
>I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
>have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
>purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
>for larger appliances.
>
>> It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
>> every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

>
>Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
>it with about 30 minutes of work.


In the US service voltage from the street is 240V, upon entering the
home voltage is split so that most circuits are 120V. 120V is far
safer. In the UK folks are more frugal and wiring the entire
residence for 240V costs less, but not very safe. It's more efficient
to transport electric at higher voltages so that's what's used outside
by the utility companys... much of the high tension wires are at 440V,
and even higher over longer distances, then stepped down at the
service with transformers. Where I live houses are a good distance
apart so every residence has its own step down transformer.
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:38:57 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Yellow wrote:
> >>
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > Yellow wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > In article om>,
> >> > >
says...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> >> > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> >> > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> >> > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> >> > > > coffee a while ago.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's this model:
> >> > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> >> > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> >> > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> >> > >
> >> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> >> >
> >> > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> >> > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> >> > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> >> > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> >> > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
> >>
> >> I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.

> >
> >I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
> >have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
> >purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
> >for larger appliances.
> >
> >> It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> >> every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

> >
> >Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
> >it with about 30 minutes of work.

>
> In the US service voltage from the street is 240V,


Wrong. It's 120/240V split-phase three wire service from the street.

> upon entering the
> home voltage is split so that most circuits are 120V.


Wrong. See above. Upon entering the home a ground is added and bonded to
the neutral from the street at the service entrance panel.

> 120V is far
> safer.


Wrong. There is no notable difference between 120V and 240V as far as
safety goes. 480V is when things start to get hairy, not from the
voltage itself or need for beefed up insulation, but rather from the
increase in potential arc flash energy available.

> In the UK folks are more frugal and wiring the entire
> residence for 240V costs less, but not very safe.


They use ring mains, enough said about their electrical aptitude...

> It's more efficient
> to transport electric at higher voltages so that's what's used outside
> by the utility companys...


You got that correct at least.

> much of the high tension wires are at 440V,


Nope, none is. They don't use anything under 7,200V for distribution.
480V is only used for industrial and large commercial buildings, and the
480V comes from the transformer at the building which is fed by a much
higher voltage.

> and even higher over longer distances, then stepped down at the
> service with transformers.


Much, much higher over long distanced, as in 500,000V and up. This is
stepped down at substations to street level distribution voltages, in
the 7-35KV or so range. The medium voltage distribution is then stepped
down to low voltage 120/240V or 240/480V by the transformers on the pole
or pad by the buildings.

> Where I live houses are a good distance
> apart so every residence has its own step down transformer.


Yep, they don't do 120/240V feeders on the poles if the houses are more
than 600' apart or so. Around here the houses are far enough apart that
it's either individual transformers or sometimes two houses on one
transformer since the house spacing isn't even.
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> They use ring mains, enough said about their electrical aptitude...


I had to look up ring mains. That is sick.
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In article >,
says...
>
> Yellow wrote:
> >
> > In article >,

> > says...
> > >
> > > Yellow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article om>,
> > > >
says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's this model:
> > > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > > >
> > > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> > >
> > > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.

> >
> > I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.

>
> I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
> have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
> purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
> for larger appliances.
>
> > It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> > every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

>
> Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
> it with about 30 minutes of work.


You sound defensive.
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Yellow wrote:
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> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > Yellow wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >,

> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > Yellow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article om>,
> > > > >
says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's this model:
> > > > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> > > >
> > > > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > > > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > > > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > > > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > > > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
> > >
> > > I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.

> >
> > I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
> > have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
> > purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
> > for larger appliances.
> >
> > > It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> > > every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.

> >
> > Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
> > it with about 30 minutes of work.

>
> You sound defensive.


Just correcting yet again.


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>
> Yellow wrote:
> >
> > In article >,

> > says...
> > >
> > > Yellow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article >,

> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Yellow wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In article om>,
> > > > > >
says...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> > > > > > > one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> > > > > > > so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> > > > > > > small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> > > > > > > coffee a while ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's this model:
> > > > > > >
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> > > > > > > and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> > > > > > > customer reviews, but I took a chance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?
> > > > >
> > > > > Most of us heat our cup of water in the microwave in about a minute and
> > > > > a half. Some of us have "instant" hot water dispensers at our sinks so
> > > > > we can fill the cup with near boiling water in about two seconds. In
> > > > > years past it was common to have a water kettle you'd put on your stove
> > > > > (hob) to heat, but those have largely fallen from favor.
> > > >
> > > > I guess it makes a difference that in the US, you only have 110V.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why there is always this misunderstanding. In the US we
> > > have 120/240V as our normal residential service, while out general
> > > purpose outlets are typically 20A 120V, 240V circuits are very common
> > > for larger appliances.
> > >
> > > > It makes the concept of an electric kettle, probably the one, single item
> > > > every kitchen has in the UK, less useful.
> > >
> > > Send me a 240V UK kettle, and I'll have a 240V receptacle in place for
> > > it with about 30 minutes of work.

> >
> > You sound defensive.

>
> Just correcting yet again.


Just to be clear, are you offering to install a 240V socket in
everyone's kitchen, or just you own?
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:

>In article om>,
says...
>>
>> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> coffee a while ago.
>>
>> It's this model:
>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>>
>> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> customer reviews, but I took a chance.

>
>Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?


Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
tin can.
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>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
>
> >In article om>,
> says...
> >>
> >> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
> >> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
> >> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
> >> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
> >> coffee a while ago.
> >>
> >> It's this model:
> >> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
> >>
> >> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
> >> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
> >> customer reviews, but I took a chance.

> >
> >Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

>
> Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
> tin can.


Do you prefer your tin can over an open fire or do you use an indoor
candle?

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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:16:42 +0100, Yellow > wrote:

>In article >, gravesend10
says...
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:21:41 +0100, Yellow > wrote:
>>
>> >In article om>,
>> says...
>> >>
>> >> Well, more of an appliance. An electric water kettle. I've been wanting
>> >> one and used a couple of BBB gift cards to gift myself. It boils water
>> >> so fast (about 2 mins) I'm amazed, because the heating element is fairly
>> >> small. I've been enjoying hot tea again in the morning since I gave up
>> >> coffee a while ago.
>> >>
>> >> It's this model:
>> >> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...?sku=40656649&
>> >>
>> >> I guess I could have found one cheaper but I like the look of this one
>> >> and I hope it lasts. No reviews and I hate buying things without
>> >> customer reviews, but I took a chance.
>> >
>> >Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

>>
>> Finally a stupid question... one can boil water in any pot, even in a
>> tin can.

>
>Do you prefer your tin can over an open fire or do you use an indoor
>candle?


Um, a candle produces an open fire.
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On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:
> Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?


A kettle is not required to boil water.

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On 8/11/2013 8:08 PM, Yellow wrote:


>
> Which leads me to ask - how do people in the USA make themselves hot
> drinks at work?
>



Coffee is usually made with a drip coffee maker. I use a kettle to make
tea, two cups a day.
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> And workplace.
>
> Which leads me to ask - how do people in the USA make themselves hot
> drinks at work?


We have coffee makers with the fill tank plumbed into the water supply.
There's also hot filtered water for those who want tea, cocoa or
cup-a-soup.

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On Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:08:13 PM UTC-7, Yellow wrote:
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> > In article >, gravesend10

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> > @verizon.net says...

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> > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:33:59 +0100, Janet > wrote:

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> > > >> On 10-Aug-2013, jmcquown > wrote:

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> > > >> > On 8/10/2013 7:21 AM, Yellow wrote:

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> > > >> > > Every household does not already have a kettle? How do you make tea?

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> > > >> >

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> > > >> > A kettle is not required to boil water.

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> > > >> > Jill

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> > > >> And - tea is not required to sustain life, or even to enjoy life.

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> > > > oh yes it is :-)

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> > > > Janet UK

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> > >

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> > > And I'll bet every kitchen in the UK has an electric kettle... one of

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> > > the more useful, compact, and inexpensive household appliances...

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> > > certainly far more useful, inexpensive, and less space wasting than

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> > > obese food precessors and stand mixers.

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> >

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> > Not just every home kitchen. Virtually every hotel, guest house and

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> > BB provides guests with an electric kettle in their rooms, plus a tray

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> > of what they need to make hot drinks.

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> > Also very common student kit; my kids all took an electric kettle to

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> > keep in their college room when they left home.

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> > Janet UK.

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> And workplace.
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> Which leads me to ask - how do people in the USA make themselves hot
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> drinks at work?


LOL- they go to Starbuck's!
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> I do
> hope Cheryl enjoys her new electric kettle. The one I have heats on the
> stovetop and whistles when the water is ready.


The revereware kettle, by any chance?
I used to have one of those.

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On 8/10/2013 8:53 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
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>> I do
>> hope Cheryl enjoys her new electric kettle. The one I have heats on the
>> stovetop and whistles when the water is ready.

>
> The revereware kettle, by any chance?
> I used to have one of those.
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> G.
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Exactamundo! Circa the 1950's.

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Gary wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
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>> I do
>> hope Cheryl enjoys her new electric kettle. The one I have heats on the
>> stovetop and whistles when the water is ready.

>
>The revereware kettle, by any chance?
>I used to have one of those.


They're pretty disgusting, it's near impossible to clean the crud
buildup inside... I had one that riveled Howe Cavern's stalagmites and
stalagtites, and stank like the bubbling sulfer pools at Yellowstone.


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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> Gary wrote:
> >jmcquown wrote:
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> >> I do
> >> hope Cheryl enjoys her new electric kettle. The one I have heats on the
> >> stovetop and whistles when the water is ready.

> >
> >The revereware kettle, by any chance?
> >I used to have one of those.

>
> They're pretty disgusting, it's near impossible to clean the crud
> buildup inside... I had one that riveled Howe Cavern's stalagmites and
> stalagtites, and stank like the bubbling sulfer pools at Yellowstone.


We threw out our first one because of the calcium buildup inside and
just bought a new one. When the wife moved away, she took that new one
with her. I just use a small pot to boil water now. The revereware
kettles are nifty looking and cheap enough though. I wouldn't buy
another but it would be a nice Christmas gift to me.

G.
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