I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however, that it was not ready for Goodwill.

Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing immediately every crumb in sight.

Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.

On 8/13/2013 2:30 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however, that it was not ready for Goodwill.
>
> Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing immediately every crumb in sight.
>
> Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.

When those pesty fruit flies, or whatever they are, show up in my home,
I use a small glass that's filled with about 1/4-cup of cider vinegar
and add a drop of liquid soap. It's a passive remedy and drowns the
flies very well

Sky

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Kalmia wrote:
> I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and
> I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in
> midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for
> something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however,
> that it was not ready for Goodwill.
>
> Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used
> dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing
> immediately every crumb in sight.
>
> Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.

Does the alcohol really kill them?

So far so good on the fruit flies here. Have seen one every once in a while
but not bad at all.

After having all of the pipes redone under my kitchen sink, we've not have a
problem. They were breeding in there.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:21:11 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

> On 8/13/2013 2:30 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however, that it was not ready for Goodwill.
> >
> > Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing immediately every crumb in sight.
> >
> > Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.
>
> When those pesty fruit flies, or whatever they are, show up in my home,
> I use a small glass that's filled with about 1/4-cup of cider vinegar
> and add a drop of liquid soap. It's a passive remedy and drowns the
> flies very well
>
I put the fruit/veg in the refrigerator, wait a day or two and no more
fruit flies. Their life span is pretty short.


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On 8/13/2013 3:30 PM, Kalmia wrote:

> I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and
> I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in
> midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for
> something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however,
> that it was not ready for Goodwill.
>
> Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used
> dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing
> immediately every crumb in sight.
>
> Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.
>
>
>
If they're in the drains chances are they are drain flies, not fruit
flies. I have a problem with those. I have a bathroom downstairs that
doesn't get used at all. I went in there the other day and there was a
snotty looking string hanging from the sink faucet. Mold. Apparently
that sink drips. Since I've cleaned up the snotty thing, I've had those
little flies buzzing around. I guess I interrupted their living quarters.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 8/13/2013 3:30 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
>> I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and
>> I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in
>> midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for
>> something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however,
>> that it was not ready for Goodwill.
>>
>> Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used
>> dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing
>> immediately every crumb in sight.
>>
>> Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.
>>
>>
>>
> If they're in the drains chances are they are drain flies, not fruit
> flies. I have a problem with those. I have a bathroom downstairs that
> doesn't get used at all. I went in there the other day and there was a
> snotty looking string hanging from the sink faucet. Mold. Apparently
> that sink drips. Since I've cleaned up the snotty thing, I've had those
> little flies buzzing around. I guess I interrupted their living quarters.

That may well be. They both look pretty similar. My kitchen sink is not
plumbed properly and probably can't ever be due to the way they remodeled
the house. In the past I have had to call a plumber every 2-3 months due to
clogging, often deep in the wall. Some of this is my own fault because I
know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not supposed
to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just have something
too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and get it
outside.

I have been trying not to use the disposal as much and now I am down to
having to call the plumber maybe once a year. But... When I had the
plumber change out all of the pipes, it was because whoever did it, put in
all these extra pipes. What they did made absolutely no sense! The prior
plumber claimed he had put it right but all he did was cut some of the pipes
shorter. Prior to that, some were too long and they would eventually slip
apart. It was a real mess and it is some better now. But issue there was
that gunk was being retained in the extra pipes. They had no business being
there and they could never fully drain.

Now the big problem is whatever is in the wall, preventing the snake from
entering. Plumber said either they turned the pipe sharply, likely since
the garage is on the other side of the kitchen and that is where the pipes
leading out of the house go, they used a wrong part, or something fell into
the pipe. We will never know unless the wall is ripped out. And I was told
that doing that might just be a big expense that accomplishes nothing
because they may not be able to fix it still.

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:00:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>That may well be. They both look pretty similar. My kitchen sink is not
>plumbed properly and probably can't ever be due to the way they remodeled
>the house. In the past I have had to call a plumber every 2-3 months due to
>clogging, often deep in the wall. Some of this is my own fault because I
>know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not supposed
>to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just have something
>too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and get it
>outside.

Julie, I have never had a garbage disposal. They aren't really common
in Canada, as far as I know. Why is it that you sometimes need to use
one instead of just putting your compostable waste into a container
then disposing of the stuff later? Why does stuff need to immediately
go into a biobag?

I have what I call "the garbage bowl" sitting on my counter at all
times. It's quite large. All veg and fruit trimmings go in there, and
when it's full, someone makes the trip out back to the compost heap to
empty it. If there are fruit flies around, the trips out back are more
frequent.

Doris

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> That may well be. They both look pretty similar. My kitchen sink is not
> plumbed properly and probably can't ever be due to the way they remodeled
> the house. In the past I have had to call a plumber every 2-3 months due
> to clogging, often deep in the wall. Some of this is my own fault because
> I know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not
> supposed to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just have
> something too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and
> get it outside.

Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.

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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> > Some of this is my own fault because
> > I know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not
> > supposed to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just have
> > something too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and
> > get it outside.
>
> Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.

Huh. That's a really good idea, Ophy! :-D

I don't have any of those issues here. We all have garbage disposals
and they don't clog unless you put certain peels down them...and you
always need to run plenty of water before and after. As far as
garbage, here it all goes in the dumpster and other people deal with
it.

G.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:17:02 PM UTC-4, barbie gee wrote:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain_fly>

Yep--that's just what they are. The alcohol seems to be working, plus scrupulous cleanliness. One good thing about them - my kitchen is realtor-ready most of the time now.

Now--if I could just get this one who's been buzzing around me in the office. I could prob. cover the puter with a big plastic cover and lie in wait for the villain with my trusty MIsto.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:10:30 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>
>
> Julie, I have never had a garbage disposal. They aren't really common
>
> in Canada, as far as I know. Why is it that you sometimes need to use
>
> one instead of just putting your compostable waste into a container
>
> then disposing of the stuff later? Why does stuff need to immediately
>
> go into a biobag?
>
>
>
> I have what I call "the garbage bowl" sitting on my counter at all
>
> times. It's quite large. All veg and fruit trimmings go in there, and
>
> when it's full, someone makes the trip out back to the compost heap to
>
> empty it. If there are fruit flies around, the trips out back are more
>
> frequent.

More info, please. How often on average to you empty the garbage bowl? Is it covered? Draws flies? What do you do with bones?

Nice that you are operating "green". Bet the compost is yielding something useful to you too.

On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:30:55 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:10:30 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:

>> Julie, I have never had a garbage disposal. They aren't really common
>> in Canada, as far as I know. Why is it that you sometimes need to use
>> one instead of just putting your compostable waste into a container
>> then disposing of the stuff later? Why does stuff need to immediately
>> go into a biobag?
>>
>> I have what I call "the garbage bowl" sitting on my counter at all
>> times. It's quite large. All veg and fruit trimmings go in there, and
>> when it's full, someone makes the trip out back to the compost heap to
>> empty it. If there are fruit flies around, the trips out back are more
>> frequent.
>
>More info, please. How often on average to you empty the garbage bowl? Is it covered? Draws flies? What do you do with bones?
>Nice that you are operating "green". Bet the compost is yielding something useful to you too.

In the winter, it gets emptied maybe every 3 days. In the summer maybe
once a day. Depends on what kinds of produce is being consumed. The
trimmings from a pineapple, for example, take up a lot more room than
carrot peelings. It doesn't draw flies - just a few fruit flies.

We can't put meat scraps on our compost heap because we have coyotes.
And a bear. I recently purchased a square rubbermaid bin that holds
about 2 gallons, and I've got it in the freezer. All meat scraps go in
there, and when it's full it gets dumped into a garbage bag on garbage
day.

Doris

On 8/13/2013 9:30 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> I filled said Misto with alcohol ( read this tip somewhere..... ) and I can now mist a bit down the drains and also nail fruit flies in midair or on the counter. I just KNEW that Misto had to be good for something. Spraying EVOO was certainly NOT IT. I felt, however, that it was not ready for Goodwill.
>
> Other tips admonish that you leave nothing wet around like a used dishrag, or dishes in the sink to be washed later. I am also removing immediately every crumb in sight.
>
> Seems like the fruit flies are a lot worse this year.
>
>
>

A spray of alcohol will also kill bedbugs. As an added bonus you get to
see them curl up and die.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> That may well be. They both look pretty similar. My kitchen sink is not
>> plumbed properly and probably can't ever be due to the way they remodeled
>> the house. In the past I have had to call a plumber every 2-3 months due
>> to clogging, often deep in the wall. Some of this is my own fault
>> because
>> I know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not
>> supposed to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just
>> have
>> something too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and
>> get it outside.
>
> Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.

I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My one
toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why. The last time it had a
problem, I just had it replaced. I had been told that it was a bad model,
prone to clogging.

Things were good for a few months. I could use 2 ply paper and no clogs.
Then suddenly the 2 ply was clogging every single time. And it began doing
the same thing that the old one did. Not quite fully flushing. Very
annoying. Now it has started running again. I had managed to fix that
myself and it was fine for many months but I just had to take a screwdriver
to it twice in a week. Ah... It's always something!

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:10:30 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Julie, I have never had a garbage disposal. They aren't really common
>>
>> in Canada, as far as I know. Why is it that you sometimes need to use
>>
>> one instead of just putting your compostable waste into a container
>>
>> then disposing of the stuff later? Why does stuff need to immediately
>>
>> go into a biobag?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have what I call "the garbage bowl" sitting on my counter at all
>>
>> times. It's quite large. All veg and fruit trimmings go in there, and
>>
>> when it's full, someone makes the trip out back to the compost heap to
>>
>> empty it. If there are fruit flies around, the trips out back are more
>>
>> frequent.
>
> More info, please. How often on average to you empty the garbage bowl?
> Is it covered? Draws flies? What do you do with bones?
>
> Nice that you are operating "green". Bet the compost is yielding
> something useful to you too.

I tried a kitchen composter and it immediately became a breeding ground for
fruit flies. Even after cleaning it well, they still came back. Had to do
with the filter in the lid. I discovered online to put a coffee filter in
it. Solved that problem. But it took up precious counter space.

Now what I do is use a little garbage can that sits on the floor. Food is
put in a Biobag right away and sealed. I can keep the bags in there for 2-3
days, depending on what it is. But if it is something sloppy or smelly like
onion scraps, I take it straight outside.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

>> Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.
>
> I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My
> one toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why. The last time it had
> a problem, I just had it replaced. I had been told that it was a bad
> model, prone to clogging.
>
> Things were good for a few months. I could use 2 ply paper and no clogs.
> Then suddenly the 2 ply was clogging every single time. And it began
> doing the same thing that the old one did. Not quite fully flushing.
> Very annoying. Now it has started running again. I had managed to fix
> that myself and it was fine for many months but I just had to take a
> screwdriver to it twice in a week. Ah... It's always something!



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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" wrote:
> > Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.
>
> I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My one
> toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why.

Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
toilets to "save the earth."

Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
Eskimos. ;-D

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>> > Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.
>>
>> I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My
>> one
>> toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why.
>
> Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
> toilets to "save the earth."

Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places? I know it is scarce
in some highly populated places in UK and they have meters, but we are very
lucky up here.

> Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
> Eskimos. ;-D

Now, now ...
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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
> > toilets to "save the earth."
>
> Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?

In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
ehehh good water savings.

>
> > Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
> > Eskimos. ;-D
>
> Now, now ...

Defend those asian people all you want but THEY are the only ones
killing whales these days. And no need to either. The Japanese are
just obscessed with seafood and need to be controlled. As far as the
northern asian ppl, once upon a time a whale harvest would save the
village for the winter. Not any more. They all have normal jobs and
buy food. Harvesting whales now is just a tradition and they can live
fine without chewing on blubber.

Of course, we americans were the worst offender of whales back over
100 years ago. Killing all for the oil.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>> > toilets to "save the earth."
>>
>> Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?
>
> In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
> switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
> ehehh good water savings.
>
>>
>> > Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
>> > Eskimos. ;-D
>>
>> Now, now ...
>
> Defend those asian people all you want

um where did I say I was defending those asian people? I just didn't really
see the connection between the water and the whales.


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On 2013-08-15 10:54:11 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.
>>
>> I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My
>> one toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why.

My guess is skinny antique (or "charming old world" pipes). In Tokyo,
Osaka, Sendai and likely any industrial/commercial/marine centers,
since their cities were bombed to rubble, they rebuilt them with
significantly larger pipes. When I take a bath in Japan, I pop the plug
and the water SCREAMS out of the bath in what seems an instant. I can
barely get out before it's sucking my toes.

>> The last time it had a problem, I just had it replaced. I had been
>> told that it was a bad model, prone to clogging.
>>
>> Things were good for a few months. I could use 2 ply paper and no
>> clogs. Then suddenly the 2 ply was clogging every single time. And it
>> began doing the same thing that the old one did. Not quite fully
>> flushing. Very annoying. Now it has started running again. I had
>> managed to fix that myself and it was fine for many months but I just
>> had to take a screwdriver to it twice in a week. Ah... It's always
>> something!
>
>
>
> --

On 2013-08-15 16:15:34 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>>>> toilets to "save the earth."

Not that again! The earth is a parasite, costs too much money, and I
now it's apparently "too big to fail". Everybody seems to think being
haplessly wasteful with the earth's limited resources is hapless and
wasteful--what's up with that!?!

At least I think that's the political cut-and-paste du jour.


>>> Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?
>>
>> In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
>> switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
>> ehehh good water savings.
>>
>>>
>>>> Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
>>>> Eskimos. ;-D
>>>
>>> Now, now ...
>>
>> Defend those asian people all you want
>
> um where did I say I was defending those asian people? I just didn't
> really see the connection between the water and the whales.

I'll defend "those asian people"! And any other people that are
generically summoned for some exaggerated nonsense.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:41:24 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-08-15 16:15:34 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Gary" wrote:
> >>>> Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
> >>>> toilets to "save the earth."
>
> Not that again! The earth is a parasite, costs too much money, and I
> now it's apparently "too big to fail". Everybody seems to think being
> haplessly wasteful with the earth's limited resources is hapless and
> wasteful--what's up with that!?!
>
> At least I think that's the political cut-and-paste du jour.

California went to low flow because we suffered through a 10 year
drought and were forced to act. Snow doesn't make itself and crops
don't grow without H2O. On top of that LA sucks up water like there's
no tomorrow and Southern California makes a play for Northern
California water whenever they think the politics are in their favor;
Sacramento wasn't on metered water at the time (maybe not even now)
and we had to start conserving what little we had left.

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On 2013-08-15 18:17:52 +0000, sf said:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:41:24 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2013-08-15 16:15:34 +0000, Ophelia said:
>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>>>> Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>>>>>> toilets to "save the earth."
>>
>> Not that again! The earth is a parasite, costs too much money, and I
>> now it's apparently "too big to fail". Everybody seems to think being
>> haplessly wasteful with the earth's limited resources is hapless and
>> wasteful--what's up with that!?!
>>
>> At least I think that's the political cut-and-paste du jour.
>
> California went to low flow because we suffered through a 10 year
> drought and were forced to act. Snow doesn't make itself and crops
> don't grow without H2O. On top of that LA sucks up water like there's
> no tomorrow and Southern California makes a play for Northern
> California water whenever they think the politics are in their favor;
> Sacramento wasn't on metered water at the time (maybe not even now)
> and we had to start conserving what little we had left.

Logic and science--is that all you've got to defened your pathetic
Kenyan Kommunism?! ;-)

On 8/15/2013 12:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:41:24 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2013-08-15 16:15:34 +0000, Ophelia said:
>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>>>> Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>>>>>> toilets to "save the earth."
>>
>> Not that again! The earth is a parasite, costs too much money, and I
>> now it's apparently "too big to fail". Everybody seems to think being
>> haplessly wasteful with the earth's limited resources is hapless and
>> wasteful--what's up with that!?!
>>
>> At least I think that's the political cut-and-paste du jour.
>
> California went to low flow because we suffered through a 10 year
> drought and were forced to act. Snow doesn't make itself and crops
> don't grow without H2O. On top of that LA sucks up water like there's
> no tomorrow and Southern California makes a play for Northern
> California water whenever they think the politics are in their favor;
> Sacramento wasn't on metered water at the time (maybe not even now)
> and we had to start conserving what little we had left.
>

Like they said in the film, paraphrasing, "let it alone Jake, it's only
Chinatown..."

Hollis Mulray was of course an analog for Mulholland who shipped all
that water out of the Owens Valley to LA.

On 8/15/2013 12:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>> > Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>>> > toilets to "save the earth."
>>>
>>> Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?
>>
>> In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
>> switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
>> ehehh good water savings.
>>
>>>
>>> > Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
>>> > Eskimos. ;-D
>>>
>>> Now, now ...
>>
>> Defend those asian people all you want
>
> um where did I say I was defending those asian people? I just didn't
> really see the connection between the water and the whales.
>
>
There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 8/15/2013 12:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > I just didn't
> > really see the connection between the water and the whales.
> >
> >
> There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
> whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...

Both were under the heading of saving something
- save water
- save the earth
- save the whales
- save 10% on your next purchase

etc.

G.

On 8/15/2013 8:22 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 8/15/2013 12:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I just didn't
>>> really see the connection between the water and the whales.
>>>
>>>
>> There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
>> whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...
>
> Both were under the heading of saving something
> - save water
> - save the earth
> - save the whales
> - save 10% on your next purchase
>
> etc.
>
> G.
>
Save the fruitflies?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 8/15/2013 12:15 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> > Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those
>>>> > low-flush
>>>> > toilets to "save the earth."
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?
>>>
>>> In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
>>> switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
>>> ehehh good water savings.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
>>>> > Eskimos. ;-D
>>>>
>>>> Now, now ...
>>>
>>> Defend those asian people all you want
>>
>> um where did I say I was defending those asian people? I just didn't
>> really see the connection between the water and the whales.
>>
>>
> There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
> whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...

Ok

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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:52:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> > There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
> > whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...
>
> Ok

I think it was what we used to call a "stream of consciousness".

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:52:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> > There is no connection between water conservation/low flow toilets and
>> > whale hunting. He went off on a rather strange tangent...
>>
>> Ok
>
> I think it was what we used to call a "stream of consciousness".

I see

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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:50:27 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>
> ...
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> >
>
> >
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> > ...
>
> >
>
> >> That may well be. They both look pretty similar. My kitchen sink is not
>
> >> plumbed properly and probably can't ever be due to the way they remodeled
>
> >> the house. In the past I have had to call a plumber every 2-3 months due
>
> >> to clogging, often deep in the wall. Some of this is my own fault
>
> >> because
>
> >> I know better than to try to use the garbage disposal and we're not
>
> >> supposed to. They tell us it causes pollution. But sometimes I just
>
> >> have
>
> >> something too messy and sloppy to want to try to get it in a biobag and
>
> >> get it outside.
>
> >
>
> > Stuff like that I flush down the toilet.
>
>
>
> I grew up doing that but... We're not supposed to do it now and... My one
>
> toilet clogs at the drop of a hat! No clue why. The last time it had a
>
> problem, I just had it replaced. I had been told that it was a bad model,
>
> prone to clogging.
>
>
>
> Things were good for a few months. I could use 2 ply paper and no clogs.
>
> Then suddenly the 2 ply was clogging every single time. And it began doing
>
> the same thing that the old one did. Not quite fully flushing. Very
>
> annoying. Now it has started running again. I had managed to fix that
>
> myself and it was fine for many months but I just had to take a screwdriver
>
> to it twice in a week. Ah... It's always something!

Is your daughter flushing things she shouldn't?

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:05:27 AM UTC-7, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> > "Gary" wrote:
>
> > > Most flushing went all to hell once we all switched to those low-flush
>
> > > toilets to "save the earth."
>
> >
>
> > Oh dear. Is it because water is scarce in some places?
>
>
>
> In some areas, yes, water is scarce. But not in my area. Everyone
>
> switched to low flush toilets and now you have to flush them twice.
>
> ehehh good water savings.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > > Also, still want to "Save the Whales?" Get rid of the Japanese and
>
> > > Eskimos. ;-D
>
> >
>
> > Now, now ...
>
>
>
> Defend those asian people all you want but THEY are the only ones
>
> killing whales these days. And no need to either. The Japanese are
>
> just obscessed with seafood and need to be controlled. As far as the
>
> northern asian ppl, once upon a time a whale harvest would save the
>
> village for the winter. Not any more. They all have normal jobs and
>
> buy food. Harvesting whales now is just a tradition and they can live
>
> fine without chewing on blubber.
>
>
>
> Of course, we americans were the worst offender of whales back over
>
> 100 years ago. Killing all for the oil.
>
>
>
> G.

Not true Gary- native Americans do it also, but they do it in their traditional manner. We had that happen here in the NW not too long ago- it was a huge news deal.