While I was shopping for vegetables yesterday I spotted a large box of
tomatoes that were past their best, marked down to $3.00.

I realised there was about 15 kilos when I had to lug them out to the
car.

I made about 1/3 of them into tomato sauce (ketchup) with onion, a
couple of green apples, garlic, ginger, chili. salt, pepper and some
apple cider vinegar. Just finished bottling and processing.

The remainder are now on the stove and will be bottled as plain tomato
sauce for use in cooking. Just salt, tomatoes and lemon juice.

JB

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:34:00 +0800, JBurns >
wrote:

>
> While I was shopping for vegetables yesterday I spotted a large box of
> tomatoes that were past their best, marked down to $3.00.
>
> I realised there was about 15 kilos when I had to lug them out to the
> car.
>
> I made about 1/3 of them into tomato sauce (ketchup) with onion, a
> couple of green apples, garlic, ginger, chili. salt, pepper and some
> apple cider vinegar. Just finished bottling and processing.
>
> The remainder are now on the stove and will be bottled as plain tomato
> sauce for use in cooking. Just salt, tomatoes and lemon juice.
>
Sounds wonderful! Happy eating.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
>
> While I was shopping for vegetables yesterday I spotted a large box of
> tomatoes that were past their best, marked down to $3.00.
>
> I realised there was about 15 kilos when I had to lug them out to the
> car.
>
> I made about 1/3 of them into tomato sauce (ketchup) with onion, a
> couple of green apples, garlic, ginger, chili. salt, pepper and some
> apple cider vinegar. Just finished bottling and processing.
>
> The remainder are now on the stove and will be bottled as plain tomato
> sauce for use in cooking. Just salt, tomatoes and lemon juice.
>
> JB

Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in this
area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products can be bought
for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just doesn't seem very
cost effective to can, given all the time involved and the other supplies I
would have to buy.

Julie Bove wrote:

> Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in
> this area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products
> can be bought for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just
> doesn't seem very cost effective to can, given all the time involved
> and the other supplies I would have to buy.

Better jarring than canning, it's easier: all you need is a 20 bucks mill
and some jars, which can be jam/marmalade jars so they don't cost you a
cent.
My mother uses and old crank operated one, it's the one in the upper right:
http://www.borghiprogettoenologia.it...Id=2229.htm l
My sister has one with an electric engine attached, like the bottom one in
that picture.
In both of them you add tomatoes from the top, tomato sauce will drop down
from that perforated conical exaust on the left while the peels and seeds
will exit the cone from the tip.

Saturday, if my GF won't be able to come to town I'll be helping mom and
sister in a conserva day: from 8Am to 6PM boiling tomatoes, pressing them
through the mill, jarring them and boiling the jars, then the next day we'll
remove the jars from the big pot. Just tomato, salt and a tablespoon of EVO
oil on top, nothing else, not even a leaf of parsley or basil. That's what I
call conserva, or plain tomato sauce.
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:12:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"JBurns" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> While I was shopping for vegetables yesterday I spotted a large box of
>> tomatoes that were past their best, marked down to $3.00.
>>
>> I realised there was about 15 kilos when I had to lug them out to the
>> car.
>>
>> I made about 1/3 of them into tomato sauce (ketchup) with onion, a
>> couple of green apples, garlic, ginger, chili. salt, pepper and some
>> apple cider vinegar. Just finished bottling and processing.
>>
>> The remainder are now on the stove and will be bottled as plain tomato
>> sauce for use in cooking. Just salt, tomatoes and lemon juice.
>>
>> JB
>
>Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in this
>area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products can be bought
>for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just doesn't seem very
>cost effective to can, given all the time involved and the other supplies I
>would have to buy.

It was very cost effective. $3.00 worth of tomatoes. I had everything
else including jars and lids.

JB

>

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
>>Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in this
>>area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products can be
>>bought
>>for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just doesn't seem very
>>cost effective to can, given all the time involved and the other supplies
>>I
>>would have to buy.
>
> It was very cost effective. $3.00 worth of tomatoes. I had everything
> else including jars and lids.

But where did you find the tomatoes?

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JBurns" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in this
>>>area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products can be
>>>bought
>>>for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just doesn't seem very
>>>cost effective to can, given all the time involved and the other supplies
>>>I
>>>would have to buy.
>>
>> It was very cost effective. $3.00 worth of tomatoes. I had everything
>> else including jars and lids.
>
> But where did you find the tomatoes?

You don't like them. Neither does DH or daughter. What does it matter?

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:28:47 +0200, "ViLco" > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in
>> this area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products
>> can be bought for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just
>> doesn't seem very cost effective to can, given all the time involved
>> and the other supplies I would have to buy.
>
>Better jarring than canning, it's easier: all you need is a 20 bucks mill
>and some jars, which can be jam/marmalade jars so they don't cost you a
>cent.
>My mother uses and old crank operated one, it's the one in the upper right:
>http://www.borghiprogettoenologia.it...Id=2229.htm l
>My sister has one with an electric engine attached, like the bottom one in
>that picture.
>In both of them you add tomatoes from the top, tomato sauce will drop down
>from that perforated conical exaust on the left while the peels and seeds
>will exit the cone from the tip.
>
>Saturday, if my GF won't be able to come to town I'll be helping mom and
>sister in a conserva day: from 8Am to 6PM boiling tomatoes, pressing them
>through the mill, jarring them and boiling the jars, then the next day we'll
>remove the jars from the big pot. Just tomato, salt and a tablespoon of EVO
>oil on top, nothing else, not even a leaf of parsley or basil. That's what I
>call conserva, or plain tomato sauce.

That is basically what I have done with the bulk of the tomatoes,
except I have added about a 2 tablespoons of lemon juice per litre for
acidity. Do you think the EVO on top would aid in preservation, as in
excluding air?

I could have done with a food mill, I peeled and seeded them all by
hand.

Julie's comment about it not being worth it when expense and time is
taken into account just does not make sense. I had everything except
the tomatoes (which cost $3.00) and I was not doing anything else that
might bring in income. Factoring in time expense is silly unless you
are forgoing income making activities or paying someone else to do
what you would normally being doing instead of making tomato sauce.

JB

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:54:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"JBurns" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in this
>>>area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products can be
>>>bought
>>>for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just doesn't seem very
>>>cost effective to can, given all the time involved and the other supplies
>>>I
>>>would have to buy.
>>
>> It was very cost effective. $3.00 worth of tomatoes. I had everything
>> else including jars and lids.
>
>But where did you find the tomatoes?

At my normal fruit and vege market. As I said, they were just getting
past their best so they were selling them off by the (very large) box.
I had to remove a few bruised spots from some and discarded about 10.

JB

>

JBurns wrote:

>> even a leaf of parsley or basil. That's what I call conserva, or
>> plain tomato sauce.

> That is basically what I have done with the bulk of the tomatoes,
> except I have added about a 2 tablespoons of lemon juice per litre for
> acidity. Do you think the EVO on top would aid in preservation, as in
> excluding air?

I think it's just for that, to prevent or reduce the effects of that little
oxigen between lid and sauce.

> I could have done with a food mill, I peeled and seeded them all by
> hand.
>
> Julie's comment about it not being worth it when expense and time is
> taken into account just does not make sense. I had everything except
> the tomatoes (which cost $3.00) and I was not doing anything else that
> might bring in income. Factoring in time expense is silly unless you
> are forgoing income making activities or paying someone else to do
> what you would normally being doing instead of making tomato sauce.

I agree, it's just a saturday with the relatives, and if my BIL is around
he'll bebringing some chicken vindaloo and kabob from a nearby pakistani
shop, can't wait for tha vindaloo
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:55:35 +0800, JBurns >
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:28:47 +0200, "ViLco" > wrote:
>
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in
>>> this area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products
>>> can be bought for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just
>>> doesn't seem very cost effective to can, given all the time involved
>>> and the other supplies I would have to buy.
>>
>>Better jarring than canning, it's easier: all you need is a 20 bucks mill
>>and some jars, which can be jam/marmalade jars so they don't cost you a
>>cent.
>>My mother uses and old crank operated one, it's the one in the upper right:
>>http://www.borghiprogettoenologia.it...Id=2229.htm l
>>My sister has one with an electric engine attached, like the bottom one in
>>that picture.
>>In both of them you add tomatoes from the top, tomato sauce will drop down
>>from that perforated conical exaust on the left while the peels and seeds
>>will exit the cone from the tip.
>>
>>Saturday, if my GF won't be able to come to town I'll be helping mom and
>>sister in a conserva day: from 8Am to 6PM boiling tomatoes, pressing them
>>through the mill, jarring them and boiling the jars, then the next day we'll
>>remove the jars from the big pot. Just tomato, salt and a tablespoon of EVO
>>oil on top, nothing else, not even a leaf of parsley or basil. That's what I
>>call conserva, or plain tomato sauce.
>
>That is basically what I have done with the bulk of the tomatoes,
>except I have added about a 2 tablespoons of lemon juice per litre for
>acidity. Do you think the EVO on top would aid in preservation, as in
>excluding air?
>
>I could have done with a food mill, I peeled and seeded them all by
>hand.
>
>Julie's comment about it not being worth it when expense and time is
>taken into account just does not make sense. I had everything except
>the tomatoes (which cost $3.00) and I was not doing anything else that
>might bring in income. Factoring in time expense is silly unless you
>are forgoing income making activities or paying someone else to do
>what you would normally being doing instead of making tomato sauce.
>
>JB

I agree. In recent years I have canned, dried or frozen the things
from our garden. Purchased some things when I found a source with a
good price, or maybe pick your own. Before we had room for a garden a
group of us would get together and find a farm or orchard and each buy
whatever we felt we could handle. I remember getting a call from a
local farmer at 7 am to see if I still wanted the 100 ears of corn I
had asked. When I said yes he said he would go pick them. He also
had you pick strawberries.

To me the best thing about preserving my own is that I know exactly
what I put into it. If I don't want salt in some of the vegetables I
don't add it. I also know if the produce was sprayed or not and if so
when and with what.

Got to go out in the back yard and see how many Roma beans I can pick
this morning.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

JBurns wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >But where did you find the tomatoes?
>
> At my normal fruit and vege market. As I said, they were just getting
> past their best so they were selling them off by the (very large) box.
> I had to remove a few bruised spots from some and discarded about 10.

I look for those at my vegetable stand. You can eat some immediately.
The rest, I chop and freeze to make killer spaghetti sauce later on.

G.

Gary wrote:
> I look for those at my vegetable stand. You can eat some immediately.
WEBTV!!! ROFL!!!!

Bla bla bla, you're so clever. NOT! ROFL! And the webtv reference....
seriously? *You're* making fun of *me* with webtv? Do you not realize that
you have just validated everyone who has laughed at you for it?

One note... you can't lay off the crossdressing stuff in your lame attempt
at humor. You got caught on it already, and we all know about it, and "I
know you are but what am I" doesn't fix it.

Now **** off and die, you phony little pussy, and next time you decide to
start flinging shit at people outside your own back yard, try to prepare
your freeble little mind for the fact that you need to be willing to take
what you dish out, because someone may do the same thing back at you. If
you're going to keep being a pussy who wants to give shit but screams like a
sissy baby when you get it back, you'll just spend your sad little life
going through episodes like this where your true nature is revealed to all.

I'm done with you now, shithead. That is, unless you want more.

And unless you decide to resume making personal attacks on people who are
trying to discuss reasonable things. A little good natured banter between
rivals is fine, but you cannot seem to understand why it's offensive to
invade other forums and turn on a tirade of hateful personal attacks on
individuals. So if you go that route again, I'll be back on your ass, with
Goatboy, Ronald, and a bunch more tasty morsels. And go ahead and post all
the stupid shit you want in the Chiefs forums... you're not getting any
action because they are too smart to take your juvenile bait.... and
besides, yuou're just not funny.

Now please refrain from being an asshole and I will do the same.... or not,
your choice.

Besides, I can be a much bigger asshole than you when provoked, so do the
smart thing while you have this one opportunity at a truce.

MBKC

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
> You don't like them. Neither does DH or daughter. What does it matter?

What? I love tomatoes and husband is Italian. He eats them. Daughter
doesn't like them unless they are in salsa or ketchup.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> At my normal fruit and vege market. As I said, they were just getting
> past their best so they were selling them off by the (very large) box.
> I had to remove a few bruised spots from some and discarded about 10.
>
> JB

Oh. I don't shop at fruit and veg markets. The few I have been to around
here sell pretty rotten stuff and it sure isn't cheap!

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> Julie's comment about it not being worth it when expense and time is
> taken into account just does not make sense. I had everything except
> the tomatoes (which cost $3.00) and I was not doing anything else that
> might bring in income. Factoring in time expense is silly unless you
> are forgoing income making activities or paying someone else to do
> what you would normally being doing instead of making tomato sauce.

Factoring in time is not silly to me. I did can the pears and apples when
we first moved here. Now I suppose if we *really* loved pears and
apples....such as craved them and couldn't get enough of them, then perhaps
it would make sense to do that. But we don't. Husband and I can both live
without them and daughter only likes them when they come in individual cans
or cups.

So I had to go out and buy all of the canning equipment and jars. Take all
the time to sterilize everything. Then the many hours and days of peeling
and cutting and mashing and whatever, plus the time it took to actually can
them.

Then end result? A few dozen jars of fruit that nobody wanted, including
us. So for me it was an insane waste of my time, plus a waste of money to
buy all of the equipment.

I was once gifted with a ton of tomatoes. I had no canning stuff at the
time. And we had just moved in so had an almost empty fridge and freezer.
These tomatoes were perfectly fresh. I did eat as many as I could raw, and
the rest I put up in batches of tomato sauce, using an old recipe that I had
in a cookbook. The recipe had milk in it. So not your typical sauce but it
was good. I froze it and we ate it for many months.

I did not feel that my time was wasted there because it really only took me
a few hours to process the sauce and we did eat it all. I was also spending
my time in those days looking for a job so my time was better served there.

These days I can get a case of tomato sauce at Costco for cheap. This past
year they had it buy one get one free. I gave the extra case to the food
bank. I supplement this with the small cans that I have been getting for
anywhere from 18 to 41 cents. I eat more of these little cans myself and
the case of larger cans usually lasts me a year. Once in a while I will
also buy stuff like puree or chopped tomatoes or find some tomato products
at Big Lots which I will also buy. Yes, I am spending more than $3 in a
year's time but my time is valuable to me.

On Monday, August 19, 2013 4:28:47 AM UTC-6, ViLco wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>
> > Where did you find such a thing? I never see anything like that in
>
> > this area. Not that I would likely buy it. Canned tomato products
>
> > can be bought for cheap here. I do have canning supplies but it just
>
> > doesn't seem very cost effective to can, given all the time involved
>
> > and the other supplies I would have to buy.
>
>
>
Many years ago, back in the 70's, I worked for a produce farmer. His DIL was making her homemade ketchup. It took all day to cook down and then be bottled. I could not imagine why anyone would go to all of that work for ketchup! Then I tasted her ketchup, and it was awesome! Not so sweet, a bit of heat! She also put up a few bottles of "spicy hot". She did not share a bottle with me!!!

Dale P

In article >,
JBurns > wrote:

> While I was shopping for vegetables yesterday I spotted a large box of
> tomatoes that were past their best, marked down to $3.00.
>
> I realised there was about 15 kilos when I had to lug them out to the
> car.
>
> I made about 1/3 of them into tomato sauce (ketchup) with onion, a
> couple of green apples, garlic, ginger, chili. salt, pepper and some
> apple cider vinegar. Just finished bottling and processing.
>
> The remainder are now on the stove and will be bottled as plain tomato
> sauce for use in cooking. Just salt, tomatoes and lemon juice.
>
> JB

That's wonderful! What a great deal you got.

I know there were gripes from some about the time it took you, but once
you've tasted the difference between the store canned tomatoes and home
you understand. So delicious!

A couple of years ago we tried making ketchup. It was a lot of work but
so much better than what we can buy at the store. It's hard to go back
to the store stuff when we run out.

marcella

Marcella Peek wrote:
>
> A couple of years ago we tried making ketchup. It was a lot of work but
> so much better than what we can buy at the store. It's hard to go back
> to the store stuff when we run out.

A decent way to enhance store ketchup is to add some worchestireshire
sauce to it. I like that mix for fries, etc.

G.

In article >, says...
>
worchestireshire sauce

you're hurting my ears.

Janet UK

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> >worchestireshire sauce
>
> you're hurting my ears.

LOL! I sure messed that up.
worcestershire

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> >worchestireshire sauce
>>
>> you're hurting my ears.
>
> LOL! I sure messed that up.
> worcestershire
>
> G.

what does it matter how you spell it? It is not pronounced that way. Darn
Brits!

On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:24:26 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> >worchestireshire sauce
>>
>> you're hurting my ears.
>
>LOL! I sure messed that up.
>worcestershire
>
>G.

Chest sauce appeals to me.