"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I'm sure she said that because she had sampled Julie's cooking on a
>> few occasions.
>
> I cooked for her and my FIL quite a bit. Both liked my cooking as did
> extended family. Even the Italian food that I made.
>
> The reason she said that was because the two of us (husband and I) have
> vastly different tastes when it comes to food. My FIL was much more like
> me when it came to food. He loved his vegetables (except for onions) and
> didn't like meat very much. He also would not eat rice. But any kind of
> soup or salad was something he liked. And he loved beans!

heh you should have cooked for FIL and MIL for your husband

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I'm sure she said that because she had sampled Julie's cooking on a
>>> few occasions.
>>
>> I cooked for her and my FIL quite a bit. Both liked my cooking as did
>> extended family. Even the Italian food that I made.
>>
>> The reason she said that was because the two of us (husband and I) have
>> vastly different tastes when it comes to food. My FIL was much more like
>> me when it came to food. He loved his vegetables (except for onions) and
>> didn't like meat very much. He also would not eat rice. But any kind of
>> soup or salad was something he liked. And he loved beans!
>
> heh you should have cooked for FIL and MIL for your husband

Alas, MIL became more disabled than I am so when we went to visit, I did the
cooking. She did love to cook!

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>
> >> I hope he realises how lucky he is to have someone to pander to all his
> >> wishes Make sure you get what you want too.
> >
> > Anyone married to Julie must surely realize that his luck has run out.
>
> I bet you wouldn't complain too loudly if you had someone who tolerated
> your every wish no matter now annoying, and gave you everything you asked
> for ... I suspect you don't so you just make a show of yourself by just
> sniping. Jealous much? Now why don't you grow up and talk about food
> instead of trying to put people down to make yourself look big?

Let's take that line of thinking further. The burden of the
service that Julie provides to her family she passes on to
readers in the form of an endless plaint, rather than assuming
that burden herself. We get the burden and none of the benefit.
I think that is a fair extension of what you are saying.

--
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In article >,
Brooklyn1 > wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:44:25 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Gary" wrote:
> >>> > Pico Rico wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anyone married to Julie must surely realize that his luck has run out.
> >>> >
> >>> > LOL! How evil to say that but.....funny.
> >>>
> >>> Just wait for the day someone is always on your case and putting you
> >>> down.
> >>> I wonder how funny you would find it then.
> >>
> >> Ophelia. I've always been quite capable of laughing at my own self and
> >> my faults. Julie also has that capability of laughing off her
> >> critics. I admire her for that.
> >>
> >> Any woman that would want me NOW would be someone who's luck has run
> >> out. Since I realize that, I would be extremely cautious about hooking
> >> up with that desperate woman. hahahaha
> >>
> >> Age 60 is *NOT* a time to be shopping for a new wife. I've given up.
> >> "Been there, done that...and I'm over it now." "Better off to be
> >> alone and deal with occasional loneliness, than to be with the wrong
> >> person all the time."
> >>
> >> Until I meet a unique woman near my age, I'm quite happy living alone.
> >
> >I wish you luck, but be kind?
>
> Gary is one of the kindest posters here... his jabs are always tongue
> in cheek... a lot of folks need to grow thicker skin and get a sense
> of humor.

A thick skin might be overrated. There are better ways
to deal with rejection or abuse or stress. A sense of
humor is definitely of use when dealing with abusers.

--You're crazy.
--You're arguing with a crazy person.

--
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"Michael Press" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> I hope he realises how lucky he is to have someone to pander to all
>> >> his
>> >> wishes Make sure you get what you want too.
>> >
>> > Anyone married to Julie must surely realize that his luck has run out.
>>
>> I bet you wouldn't complain too loudly if you had someone who tolerated
>> your every wish no matter now annoying, and gave you everything you asked
>> for ... I suspect you don't so you just make a show of yourself by just
>> sniping. Jealous much? Now why don't you grow up and talk about food
>> instead of trying to put people down to make yourself look big?
>
> Let's take that line of thinking further. The burden of the
> service that Julie provides to her family she passes on to
> readers in the form of an endless plaint, rather than assuming
> that burden herself. We get the burden and none of the benefit.
> I think that is a fair extension of what you are saying.

I disagree. *Many* people bring their problems here and it often helps to
share. All part of a community so those who complain need to be very
careful never to mention a problem of their own.

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"Ophelia" wrote:
>"Michael Pest" wrote:
>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>> "Pico Rican" wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I hope he realises how lucky he is to have someone to pander to all
>>> >> his
>>> >> wishes Make sure you get what you want too.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone married to Julie must surely realize that his luck has run out.
>>>
>>> I bet you wouldn't complain too loudly if you had someone who tolerated
>>> your every wish no matter now annoying, and gave you everything you asked
>>> for ... I suspect you don't so you just make a show of yourself by just
>>> sniping. Jealous much? Now why don't you grow up and talk about food
>>> instead of trying to put people down to make yourself look big?
>>
>> Let's take that line of thinking further. The burden of the
>> service that Julie provides to her family she passes on to
>> readers in the form of an endless plaint, rather than assuming
>> that burden herself. We get the burden and none of the benefit.
>> I think that is a fair extension of what you are saying.
>
>I disagree. *Many* people bring their problems here and it often helps to
>share. All part of a community so those who complain need to be very
>careful never to mention a problem of their own.

The very worst offenders are those who read posts just to find things
to whine, moan, and groan about, yet contribute nothing beneficial,
not constructive criticism, not even humor... like Mikey Pest and the
Pico Rican. LOL

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:40:46 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > You an make a study come out any way you want. With little effort, it can
>
> > be turned around. Very few meals are cheaper at a restaurant.
>
>
>
> That's true too. But if you look at it from the standpoint of everyone in
>
> the family being able to get just what they want, the restaurant certainly
>
> could be cheaper. A lot of what you'd buy would have a larger amount than
>
> what you'd need for that one meal.
>
>
>
> But in the larger picture, if you can plan to use the extras (and some
>
> people are not able to do this well), then of course eating at home is less.

Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm cooking, tough shit.

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:40:46 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > You an make a study come out any way you want. With little effort, it
>> > can
>>
>> > be turned around. Very few meals are cheaper at a restaurant.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's true too. But if you look at it from the standpoint of everyone
>> in
>>
>> the family being able to get just what they want, the restaurant
>> certainly
>>
>> could be cheaper. A lot of what you'd buy would have a larger amount
>> than
>>
>> what you'd need for that one meal.
>>
>>
>>
>> But in the larger picture, if you can plan to use the extras (and some
>>
>> people are not able to do this well), then of course eating at home is
>> less.
>
> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short
> order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like
> what I'm cooking, tough shit.

I like to please my family but I won't spoil them the way Julie spoils hers.
But, if that is what makes her happy .... not for me though.

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On Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:46:31 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:40:46 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >> > You an make a study come out any way you want. With little effort, it
>
> >> > can
>
> >>
>
> >> > be turned around. Very few meals are cheaper at a restaurant.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> That's true too. But if you look at it from the standpoint of everyone
>
> >> in
>
> >>
>
> >> the family being able to get just what they want, the restaurant
>
> >> certainly
>
> >>
>
> >> could be cheaper. A lot of what you'd buy would have a larger amount
>
> >> than
>
> >>
>
> >> what you'd need for that one meal.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> But in the larger picture, if you can plan to use the extras (and some
>
> >>
>
> >> people are not able to do this well), then of course eating at home is
>
> >> less.
>
> >
>
> > Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short
>
> > order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like
>
> > what I'm cooking, tough shit.
>
>
>
> I like to please my family but I won't spoil them the way Julie spoils hers.
>
> But, if that is what makes her happy .... not for me though.
>
>
>
> --
>
> --
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

I agree- I won't cook something that I know one of us hates, but you can't make everyone happy all the time. That would be exhausting!

"merryb" > wrote in message
...

>
> I agree- I won't cook something that I know one of us hates, but you can't
> make everyone happy all the time. That would be exhausting!

Nope. It's not. Tonight I am reheating meatloaf from the freezer. It
wasn't quite thawed and I feared it would dry out so I smothered it with a
mix of gravy and mushroom sauce. Husband and I will eat that with mashed
potatoes. But I can't eat the kind he eats. His are made with milk and
butter. Angela can eat those. I have some pre-made from Costco. I will
make instant for me with Nucoa. Angela will have to choose whatever meat
substitute item that we have in the freezer. I think she has maybe 3-4
choices. We will all have either salad or green beans with that.

But even if I made the potatoes from scratch, it wouldn't be difficult. You
do have to plan though so as not to waste food and to make sure that you
have what you need.

I grew up cooking like this. It's not a big deal.

I am not as somebody else said, a short order cook. Nobody necessarily gets
what they want when they want it except sometimes me. Because I can just
fix something for myself whenever. But I do often ask for input in advance
of the shopping and/or meal planning. Sometimes they don't know what they
want and then I will choose for them.

This week is different than most because I am attempting to use up as much
freezer food as I can. I need to restock it with fresh and would like to
use up the frozen, cooked meat since Angela is no longer eating it. And
then I will come up with a new plan.

I suspect that husband will be getting a lot more meat than he was before.
I will no longer try to make casseroles that we can all eat. Will be far
easier to just do sides that we can all eat and make him the somewhat plain
meat that he likes. Chicken, steak and pork chops. That will be even more
simple still. Cook up a package or three of something each week and toss
the leftovers in the freezer. Much easier.

On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>
> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm cooking, tough shit.
>
That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.

So I'd suggest things for dinner. My oldest brother and I like a lot of
the same things. I'd day "how about marinated grilled flank steak?" and
my brother would say "Yum" and she would say "Ewww". My brother loves
to cook so I honestly don't know how he wound up with someone even
pickier than I am. Don't let something touch on her plate! LOL

After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
out! Cook for yourself.

Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.

Jill

On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
> >
> > Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm cooking, tough shit.
> >
> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>
> So I'd suggest things for dinner. My oldest brother and I like a lot of
> the same things. I'd day "how about marinated grilled flank steak?" and
> my brother would say "Yum" and she would say "Ewww". My brother loves
> to cook so I honestly don't know how he wound up with someone even
> pickier than I am. Don't let something touch on her plate! LOL
>
> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
> out! Cook for yourself.
>
> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>
Are they still together?


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"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:46:31 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "merryb" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:40:46 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > You an make a study come out any way you want. With little effort,
>> >> > it
>>
>> >> > can
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > be turned around. Very few meals are cheaper at a restaurant.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> That's true too. But if you look at it from the standpoint of
>> >> everyone
>>
>> >> in
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> the family being able to get just what they want, the restaurant
>>
>> >> certainly
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> could be cheaper. A lot of what you'd buy would have a larger amount
>>
>> >> than
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> what you'd need for that one meal.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> But in the larger picture, if you can plan to use the extras (and some
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> people are not able to do this well), then of course eating at home is
>>
>> >> less.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a
>> > short
>>
>> > order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't
>> > like
>>
>> > what I'm cooking, tough shit.
>>
>>
>>
>> I like to please my family but I won't spoil them the way Julie spoils
>> hers.
>>
>> But, if that is what makes her happy .... not for me though.

> I agree- I won't cook something that I know one of us hates, but you can't
> make everyone happy all the time. That would be exhausting!

It must be

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "merryb" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>> I agree- I won't cook something that I know one of us hates, but you
>> can't make everyone happy all the time. That would be exhausting!
>
> Nope. It's not. Tonight I am reheating meatloaf from the freezer. It
> wasn't quite thawed and I feared it would dry out so I smothered it with a
> mix of gravy and mushroom sauce. Husband and I will eat that with mashed
> potatoes. But I can't eat the kind he eats. His are made with milk and
> butter. Angela can eat those. I have some pre-made from Costco. I will
> make instant for me with Nucoa. Angela will have to choose whatever meat
> substitute item that we have in the freezer. I think she has maybe 3-4
> choices. We will all have either salad or green beans with that.
>
> But even if I made the potatoes from scratch, it wouldn't be difficult.
> You do have to plan though so as not to waste food and to make sure that
> you have what you need.
>
> I grew up cooking like this. It's not a big deal.
>
> I am not as somebody else said, a short order cook. Nobody necessarily
> gets what they want when they want it except sometimes me. Because I can
> just fix something for myself whenever. But I do often ask for input in
> advance of the shopping and/or meal planning. Sometimes they don't know
> what they want and then I will choose for them.
>
> This week is different than most because I am attempting to use up as
> much freezer food as I can. I need to restock it with fresh and would
> like to use up the frozen, cooked meat since Angela is no longer eating
> it. And then I will come up with a new plan.
>
> I suspect that husband will be getting a lot more meat than he was before.
> I will no longer try to make casseroles that we can all eat. Will be far
> easier to just do sides that we can all eat and make him the somewhat
> plain meat that he likes. Chicken, steak and pork chops. That will be
> even more simple still. Cook up a package or three of something each week
> and toss the leftovers in the freezer. Much easier.

So long as you are happy

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On 8/26/2013 12:36 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>
>>> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order
>>> cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm
>>> cooking, tough shit.
>>>
>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>(snipped self)
>>
>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>
>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>
> Are they still together?
>
>
Yep. They met years ago on a geneology forum. (For some reason she had
a *ton* of information about some obscure branch of our family.) My
brother loves hot, spicy food. She's the meat & potatoes type.
Apparently when he wants Thai food, he'll make it for himself and she
cooks what she would like for herself.

Jill

On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:36:23 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>> >
>> > Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm cooking, tough shit.
>> >
>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>
>> So I'd suggest things for dinner. My oldest brother and I like a lot of
>> the same things. I'd day "how about marinated grilled flank steak?" and
>> my brother would say "Yum" and she would say "Ewww". My brother loves
>> to cook so I honestly don't know how he wound up with someone even
>> pickier than I am. Don't let something touch on her plate! LOL
>>
>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>
>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>
>Are they still together?

Not eating the same foods is a dimwitted reason to split, figures a
monster assed dimwit the likes of you would think it. SIL probably
enjoys eating dick... Bro ain't going anywhere.

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:10:45 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/26/2013 12:36 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order
>>>> cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm
>>>> cooking, tough shit.
>>>>
>>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>>(snipped self)
>>>
>>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>>
>>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>>
>> Are they still together?
>>
>>
>Yep. They met years ago on a geneology forum. (For some reason she had
>a *ton* of information about some obscure branch of our family.) My
>brother loves hot, spicy food. She's the meat & potatoes type.

See, I was right, SIL chows down on Bro's meat n' potatoes at every
opportunity. LOL

On 8/26/2013 11:13 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:36:23 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order
>>>> cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm
>>>> cooking, tough shit.
>>>>
>>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>>
(snipped self)
>>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>>
>>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>>
>> Are they still together?
>
> Not eating the same foods is a dimwitted reason to split, figures a
> monster assed dimwit the likes of you would think it. SIL probably
> enjoys eating dick... Bro ain't going anywhere.
>
What is your problem with sf? Sheesh.

At any rate, this woman is not my SIL. (She certainly didn't strike me
as the type who likes to suck dick and I don't care.)

She looks like someone's great-grandmother, rather rotund and with
frizzy grey hair. And she's a loudmouth. My brother can be a bit of a
loudmouth jerk himself. But they constantly talked over each other. I
tried to be hospitable but really... I didn't want to watch American Idol.

I was glad they took what furniture they came to get (for both brothers,
inheritance) and got the hell out of here. I put up with them for two
weeks. There were problems with the truck rental.

I haven't seen them since 2009. I do talk to my brother on rare
occasions. Sometimes he calls. Lately, when I call, she tells me he's
unavailable. I suspect she's blocking my calls.

She wants my mother's pearls. As I type this, I'm wearing the only
*real* strand of pearls my mother owned. She had lots of faux pearls...
this real strand is a choker. I just measured it; it's 16 inches
long. I'm slender, I can wear this. The damn thing wouldn't fit around
her neck. She's not getting it.

Jill

On 8/26/2013 11:16 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:10:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/26/2013 12:36 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a short order
>>>>> cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like what I'm
>>>>> cooking, tough shit.
>>>>>
>>>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>>>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>>>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>>> (snipped self)
>>>>
>>>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>>>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>>>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>>>
>>> Are they still together?
>>>
>>>
>> Yep. They met years ago on a geneology forum. (For some reason she had
>> a *ton* of information about some obscure branch of our family.) My
>> brother loves hot, spicy food. She's the meat & potatoes type.
>
> See, I was right, SIL chows down on Bro's meat n' potatoes at every
> opportunity. LOL
>
Ha ha ha! Well, I know he's the one paying the bills. I think she
collects Social Security and/or some sort of disability benefits. Bro
isn't old enough for that yet. Nor is he disabled.

These days he breeds purebred (pedigreed) German Shepherd dogs. He has
a couple of studs and collects a stud fee. No, he's not running a
"puppy mill". He doesn't sell puppies. He does get pick of the litter,
if he wants one. But he's only got a couple of dogs. Apparently he
gets quite a lot of $ for what I'm sure the male dogs find quite
enjoyable. Bitches in heat!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/26/2013 11:13 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:36:23 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:59:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2013 3:05 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Most people don't cook the same was as you do- you are more like a
>>>>> short order
>>>>> cook trying to make everyone happy. In my house, if you don't like
>>>>> what I'm
>>>>> cooking, tough shit.
>>>>>
>>>> That's the way I feel about it. And yes, I have cooked for family many
>>>> times over the years. My oldest brother's girlfriend was more picky
>>>> than I've ever been. All she did was tell me what she wouldn't eat.
>>>>
> (snipped self)
>>>> After a few days of trying to be polite... I finally told her if she
>>>> didn't like what I'd decided to cook, hey! go shopping! Knock yourself
>>>> out! Cook for yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Funny, she didn't do that. And she shut up.
>>>>
>>> Are they still together?
>>
>> Not eating the same foods is a dimwitted reason to split, figures a
>> monster assed dimwit the likes of you would think it. SIL probably
>> enjoys eating dick... Bro ain't going anywhere.
>>
> What is your problem with sf? Sheesh.
>
> At any rate, this woman is not my SIL. (She certainly didn't strike me as
> the type who likes to suck dick and I don't care.)
>
> She looks like someone's great-grandmother, rather rotund and with frizzy
> grey hair. And she's a loudmouth. My brother can be a bit of a loudmouth
> jerk himself. But they constantly talked over each other. I tried to be
> hospitable but really... I didn't want to watch American Idol.
>
> I was glad they took what furniture they came to get (for both brothers,
> inheritance) and got the hell out of here. I put up with them for two
> weeks. There were problems with the truck rental.
>
> I haven't seen them since 2009. I do talk to my brother on rare
> occasions. Sometimes he calls. Lately, when I call, she tells me he's
> unavailable. I suspect she's blocking my calls.
>

she buried him in the backyard and is still collecting his checks.

On 26/08/2013 11:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
s. There were problems with the truck rental.
>
> I haven't seen them since 2009. I do talk to my brother on rare
> occasions. Sometimes he calls. Lately, when I call, she tells me he's
> unavailable. I suspect she's blocking my calls.
>
> She wants my mother's pearls. As I type this, I'm wearing the only
> *real* strand of pearls my mother owned. She had lots of faux pearls...
> this real strand is a choker. I just measured it; it's 16 inches
> long. I'm slender, I can wear this. The damn thing wouldn't fit around
> her neck. She's not getting it.
>


It sounds like one of my brother's wives, the one the rest of us refer
to as our bitch in law. She was upset that my mother did not leave her
pearls to their daughter, maybe upset that she had given them to another
sister in law who she never liked. My mother always tried to be fair
and she had given her jewellery to her four daughters is law. She didn't
leave any to grandsons so it would not be fair to leave something for
her grand daughter. The bitch in law tried to interfere in my mother's
estate a few times and was told to mind her own business. Now she is in
a snit and doesn't talk to any of us. Next week it will be 4 years since
I last saw her and she lives less than 3 miles from us.

On 8/26/2013 1:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> Now she is in
> a snit and doesn't talk to any of us. Next week it will be 4 years since
> I last saw her and she lives less than 3 miles from us.
>

I just love a story with a happy ending.

On 8/26/2013 1:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/08/2013 11:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> She wants my mother's pearls. As I type this, I'm wearing the only
>> *real* strand of pearls my mother owned. She had lots of faux pearls...
>> this real strand is a choker. I just measured it; it's 16 inches
>> long. I'm slender, I can wear this. The damn thing wouldn't fit around
>> her neck. She's not getting it.
>>
>
> It sounds like one of my brother's wives, the one the rest of us refer
> to as our bitch in law. She was upset that my mother did not leave her
> pearls to their daughter, maybe upset that she had given them to another
> sister in law who she never liked. My mother always tried to be fair
> and she had given her jewellery to her four daughters is law. She didn't
> leave any to grandsons so it would not be fair to leave something for
> her grand daughter. The bitch in law tried to interfere in my mother's
> estate a few times and was told to mind her own business. Now she is in
> a snit and doesn't talk to any of us. Next week it will be 4 years since
> I last saw her and she lives less than 3 miles from us.
>
Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
car. Talk about sour grapes.

He also had me reschedule our father's funeral because it wasn't
"convenient" for him. I don't care if I *never* see or hear from him
again. He's a greedy, materialistic *******.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> The real kicker was when he *sent
> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
> car. Talk about sour grapes.

Your brother did that? LMAO...what a classic loser he is. Funny!

G.

On 2013-08-27 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
> car. Talk about sour grapes.


I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.


> He also had me reschedule our father's funeral because it wasn't
> "convenient" for him. I don't care if I *never* see or hear from him
> again. He's a greedy, materialistic *******.



We delayed my mother's memorial service for more than a month. My older
brother had a trip booked to England and Ireland that was to leave 4
days after my mother died. Since he suffers from depression and his
wife had recently been diagnosed with liver cancer, and because we knew
that my mother would never want her funeral to screw up someone's
holidays, we postponed it. The problem was that they would be back for
a week and then had another trip booked. A grandson had a trip planned
for the week in between.

The weekend before Mom's service, which I had been asked to help my
oldest brother to organize,he being thee only church goer in the family
and it being at his church, I asked the bitch in law if any of her kids
would like to speak at he service. She spit out her response. NO!! She
did not want to have to sit through a long boring service. She said she
didn't want it to last more than 10-15 minutes.

Karma reared up and kicked her in the ass because at the time she was
saying that their son was at the old folks home to pick up her mother,
and the old girl dropped dead on the way to his car. She then then went
out and organized a funeral service for her mother for the day before my
mothers, and it went on for more than an hour.


So I don't mind not ever seeing the bitch.

On 8/27/2013 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
> car. Talk about sour grapes.
>
I hope you didn't pay it!

On 8/27/13 12:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-08-27 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
>> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
>> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
>> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
>> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
>> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
>> car. Talk about sour grapes.
>
>
> I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
> reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
> estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
>

I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
*should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:56:05 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

> On 8/27/13 12:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2013-08-27 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
> >> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
> >> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
> >> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
> >> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
> >> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
> >> car. Talk about sour grapes.
> >
> >
> > I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
> > reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
> > estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
> >
>
> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.

I don't agree with that. Jill cared for both her mother and her
father for years before their deaths and it was not an easy task
dealing with her father. Her brother was measuring the furniture
before her mother had died. Very tacky man and the ultimate
cheapskate. As a parent, you are not obligated to treat your children
equally. That brother is a jerk, with a home and a good job. He can
provide for himself. Leaving the house to Jill was her mother's way
of saying thank you for devoting so many years of her life to taking
care of them.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/28/2013 7:56 PM, Goomba wrote:

r>> I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
>> reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
>> estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
>>
>
> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.




There's nothing quite like settling an estate to check test the
functionality of a family. In our family it was just one SIL who stuck
her nose into things. My wife and the other two SiLs stayed out of it.

My wife and her sister are to be commended for the way they handled
their father's estate. After their mother died their father and brother
had a big argument and the father cut him out of his will. He softened
later and put his son back in the will but with only 20% and 40% to his
daughters, who were the executors. When "the will matured" they agrees
to override the will and give him an equal 1/3 share.

I have heard horror stories about fights over wills.

On 8/28/2013 7:56 PM, Goomba wrote:

>>
>> I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
>> reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
>> estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
>>
>
> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>

Why? There are many valid reasons not to split an estate equally.
Unless you know the family situation you are not in a position to make
such a call.

On 8/28/2013 10:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>>
>
> Why? There are many valid reasons not to split an estate equally.
> Unless you know the family situation you are not in a position to make
> such a call.


There certainly are valid reasons not to split things evenly. The
problem is that the deceased leaves their children with scarred
relationships. There may be good reasons for some of them to be cut out
completely or to get less than the others, but there will almost
certainly hard feelings.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/28/2013 10:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
>>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>>>
>>
>> Why? There are many valid reasons not to split an estate equally.
>> Unless you know the family situation you are not in a position to make
>> such a call.
>
>
> There certainly are valid reasons not to split things evenly. The problem
> is that the deceased leaves their children with scarred relationships.
> There may be good reasons for some of them to be cut out completely or to
> get less than the others, but there will almost certainly hard feelings.

oftentimes those hard feelings have already developed, and that is what led
to the uneven distribution.

and making an even distribution will not undo anything.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:56:05 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/13 12:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2013-08-27 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
>> >> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
>> >> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to
>> >> money
>> >> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
>> >> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he
>> >> *sent
>> >> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel,
>> >> rental
>> >> car. Talk about sour grapes.
>> >
>> >
>> > I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
>> > reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
>> > estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
>> >
>>
>> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>
> I don't agree with that. Jill cared for both her mother and her
> father for years before their deaths and it was not an easy task
> dealing with her father. Her brother was measuring the furniture
> before her mother had died. Very tacky man and the ultimate
> cheapskate. As a parent, you are not obligated to treat your children
> equally. That brother is a jerk, with a home and a good job. He can
> provide for himself. Leaving the house to Jill was her mother's way
> of saying thank you for devoting so many years of her life to taking
> care of them.

+1

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On 8/29/2013 5:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message

..
>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:56:05 -0400, Goomba >
>> wrote:

>>> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
>>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>>
>> I don't agree with that. Jill cared for both her mother and her
>> father for years before their deaths and it was not an easy task
>> dealing with her father. Her brother was measuring the furniture
>> before her mother had died. Very tacky man and the ultimate
>> cheapskate. As a parent, you are not obligated to treat your children
>> equally. That brother is a jerk, with a home and a good job. He can
>> provide for himself. Leaving the house to Jill was her mother's way
>> of saying thank you for devoting so many years of her life to taking
>> care of them.
>
> +1

She was the one who gave up her home and got rid of most of her
possessions to move halfway across the country to take care of them.
She did not want to do that but she had no choice. Doesn't seen
unreasonable that she wouldn't be left homeless for her troubles.

nancy

In article >,
says... And of course, IMO, the estate

> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.

Depends on the circumstances of the deceased and their adult
children surely? If one kid gave up a career, pension prospects and own
home to care for needy parents, they are more in need of inheriting a
home, than a wealthy sibling who owns several homes.

Janet UK

On 2013-08-29 7:34 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says... And of course, IMO, the estate
>
>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>
> Depends on the circumstances of the deceased and their adult
> children surely? If one kid gave up a career, pension prospects and own
> home to care for needy parents, they are more in need of inheriting a
> home, than a wealthy sibling who owns several homes.
>
>
There are two sides to every story. Unfairness tore my mother's apart.
I had an aunt who divorced in the late 1940a and she and her son moved
in my grandparents and paid almost nothing for room and board. My
cousin finally moved out when he was almost 40. My aunt never did move
out. At one time she had conned my grandmother into leaving her and her
son everything. I guess she figured that since she mooched off them all
her life she deserved to mooch off them after they died.


After my grandfather died intestate, the house passed to his two
daughters. My mother and her sisters did the right thing and signed it
back over to their mother and there was an understanding that it would
pass back to them she she died. It seems that my aunt was emotionally
blackmailing her and had threatened to move out and put her in a home
unless she left her the house. The bitch aunt had the nerve to be
furious with my other aunt when she told her about that deal.

My grandmother once talked to me briefly about the will and said that my
mother and other aunt had husbands to take care of them but she thought
she needed to take care of the other one because she did not have a
husband. Perhaps, but she had worked and had a pension and always lived
a life of luxury. She got to live in a big expensive house, shop in the
best stores and go on trips. The house was worth over a million so a
third of that would have left her comfortable.

My grandmother had had a change of heart a few weeks before she died.
One aunt had died so he split the house three ways, between my mother,
my aunt and my cousin. She then left my brothers and a mail cousin $3000
each and $1000 to my two female cousins. The other cousin for 1/3 of the
house and 1/3 of everything else. The aunt and cousin were furious
about the change. Apparently one of the female cousins never signed
off. I don't blame her.

On 8/28/2013 8:53 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:56:05 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/13 12:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2013-08-27 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah. My middle brother and I don't speak. He got ****ed because Mom
>>>> left me the house. He expected me to sell it and split the proceeds.
>>>> Her lawyer told him even if I sold the house he wasn't entitled to money
>>>> from the sale of it. He threatened to contest the will. The lawyer
>>>> said knock yourself out; you'll lose. The real kicker was when he *sent
>>>> me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral! Cost of air fare, hotel, rental
>>>> car. Talk about sour grapes.
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess it would depend on how how insistent he was that he be
>>> reimbursed. It is not unheard of for arrangements being made for the
>>> estate to pay for travel for distant family to attend a funeral.
>>>
>>
>> I was going to say about that same thing. And of course, IMO, the estate
>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>
> I don't agree with that. Jill cared for both her mother and her
> father for years before their deaths and it was not an easy task
> dealing with her father. Her brother was measuring the furniture
> before her mother had died. Very tacky man and the ultimate
> cheapskate. As a parent, you are not obligated to treat your children
> equally. That brother is a jerk, with a home and a good job. He can
> provide for himself. Leaving the house to Jill was her mother's way
> of saying thank you for devoting so many years of her life to taking
> care of them.
>
It wasn't years, although it felt like it. But yes, right after Dad's
funeral he was walking around the house saying, "I'd like this, and
this, and that..." Mom was in the next room! I said, "Mom isn't dead,
you idiot!" They each got what furniture and other items from the house
they wanted *and* a third of her money; that's what her will stipulated.
Mom had an annuity that listed me as the beneficiary. Her lawyer told
me I didn't have to split that money with them but I was trying to abide
by her wishes. I wound up paying mega-bucks in taxes on that annuity;
they got their share tax free.

Jill

On 8/29/2013 7:34 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says... And of course, IMO, the estate
>
>> *should* have been split up in thirds by whatever means.
>
> Depends on the circumstances of the deceased and their adult
> children surely? If one kid gave up a career, pension prospects and own
> home to care for needy parents, they are more in need of inheriting a
> home, than a wealthy sibling who owns several homes.
>
> Janet UK
>
Brother didn't own several homes, but he did have what I call a
McMansion. Five bedrooms, 3 baths. But see, he had a plan years before
any of this happened. When brother built that house

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/85...70589453_zpid/

his plan was that when the time came (Dad's death) Mom would move in
with him. She'd get the front bedroom. It had a connecting door to the
shared guest bathroom off the front entryway. Well, Mom said she had no
intention of *ever* moving so that pretty much blew his plan.

I wondered what he expected her to do with all her furniture? Was she
supposed to cull her life down to a few pieces of bedroom furniture,
some tchotchkes and a shared guest bathroom?

Jill

On 2013-08-29 8:01 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On care of them.
>>
> It wasn't years, although it felt like it. But yes, right after Dad's
> funeral he was walking around the house saying, "I'd like this, and
> this, and that..." Mom was in the next room! I said, "Mom isn't dead,
> you idiot!" They each got what furniture and other items from the house
> they wanted *and* a third of her money; that's what her will stipulated.
> Mom had an annuity that listed me as the beneficiary. Her lawyer told
> me I didn't have to split that money with them but I was trying to abide
> by her wishes. I wound up paying mega-bucks in taxes on that annuity;
> they got their share tax free.
>

Sometimes you just can't win Jill. My oldest brother was upset that my
father did not leave the house to him, He figured he should get it
because he was the eldest. The rest of us always assumed that he would
leave everything to my mother, or if she died first, to the four of us
equally. FWIW... he suffers from depression.

When my mother decided to sell the house she asked us to come and take
whatever we wanted of Dad's. It was bad timing for me because I was
really busy getting ready to go to Europe for three weeks. There were
only a couple things that I had been promised and I had her set them
aside for me until I got back.

I went down a month later and was there the same day as my youngest
brother. He phoned the oldest and told him to come over and get what we
wanted. Oldest is the only one who lived in the same city and was 10
minutes away. He called three more times. The guy never showed up. My
mother had said that she was counting on us to clear the house out which
meant taking the valuables and trips to the dump with the rest.

He never showed up to collect whatever he was interested in and he never
showed up to help us haul the rest of the stuff to the dump. You gotta
know that later on he never got his share.

On 8/27/2013 1:21 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/27/2013 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> The real kicker was when he *sent me a bill* for attending Mom's funeral!
>> Cost of air fare, hotel, rental car. Talk about sour grapes.
>>
> I hope you didn't pay it!

No, I did not. His demand for reimbursement only came when he realized
I wasn't going to sell the house and give him even more money from the
estate.

Jill